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Okay, my questions are


Why do we make such big deals about movies or books that become popular , that have to do with the occult . examples harry potter, Anne Rice, Dracula, and yes, Twlight?

How dose the movie and book crazy truly affect you , with out you not agreeing about and getting annoyed because it shows things you think are false or not accurate?

Why does it matter to you so much that they are there why not ignore them?

And, why do people who all of a sudden act like tv vampire really affect you , since most of the people you will never know or they will never have a true affect in your daily life?

The reason for these questions I see a lot of people on line and hear say these books and movies affect their lives in either postive and negative ways, and I want to know why.

me i try not to let them affect me, i love to read the books and see the movies

but thats what they books and movies

It could well be that it is a "lazy" way in, it is also more flamboyant.

One can sit, and watch a TV show, and not engage
research skills. It also expands their opportunity to expound upon their adopted subject, as many share their entusiasm for a Show, movie, fictional book, only often without the added behaviour of claiming to be "an occultist" .

I developed a prose.

A match is an ideal way to start a bonfire, but to build a bonfire with matches is not practical.

The book and movie craze has and hasn't affected me. It has in that i've read a lot of the Harry Potter books and i've read almost all of the Cirque Du Freak books. I have seen all the Harry Potter movies and loved them and wanted to see The Vampires Assistant even though it never came close enough to me and I didn't get the time.

It matters to me because it puts an actual scene to those who don't imagine what is going on. It also matters because you can watch the movies after they come on DVD when one gets bored. I ignore the Twilight craze going on now and in the future because I was never really interested in the Twilight books.

People that start acting like a tv Vampyre I ignore completely because they are trying to be someone they are not and they will give a bad name to the Vampyre Community. They will also get criticized to death for trying to act like a tv Vampyre or Vampyre Hunter. People that come into contact you leave a residual affect on people whether it is known or not. Friends, family, acquaintences affect you in different ways;therefore, those you don't even know may affect you as well in different ways. Seeing someone helping someone else with groceries or something like that.

who wants to devote time to any practice or belief, when they will likely be adopting the next big trend anyway. I am reminded of the South Park Episode with the Yu Min Collectables. Or even the episode when everyone was coming out as Metro-sexual.

Simple, because certain people believe what they're shown rather than search for themselves.

It is the same thing in following fashion, people search on magazines to be told what should they wear, they watch TV and watch reality shows to be able to talk about something, instead of spending a few minutes thinking about philosophical topics, etc...

The fear of being seen as a Novice.

The desire to impress others (which works occasionally, until they encounter a learned person).

I feel because some live in a fantasy world but in there mind its very real to them and can not get a grip on reality


so they play a part through the movies and books


but again to them its real

why the assumption that 'some people' can control how media affect them.. those who are susceptible to such.. have that propensity for such things, not control.

hence.. advertising.. it works on some, not on others..

Then we could ask the question why does so many people read romance novels? Maybe it is a way for one to escape their life, or put themselves in their own fantasy world.

Instead of re-iterating what has already been stated and creating a long post, I will agree with what ~Dabbler~, ~Deathnitegirl~ and ~Angelus~ had posted thus far.

Of course, many of those of whom fall privvy to the manipulating factors, may be unaware of what involvement that the effects may be, long term hypnosis of buy this or you need that play a huge part in how the individual interacts with their surroundings.

Need advertising, in a nutshell. Genious advertising of what they think their audience would enjoy in the long run, which is what keeps those companies in business.

As according to the theological system, society has been taught that the occult is an "evil" and arcane subject. Therefore, they would either shun, or dabble in it because they choose to become differant then the mainstream idealists that seem to think that what ever their leaders tell them via television stations such as the History Channel are true, rather then speculate for themselves as to what is historical fact instead of fantastical fiction.

Theological psychology has alot to do with it regarding the "occult" preference as noted within the title of this thread.

In a nutshell, the "entertainment" route is the favored "tool" for learning anything now days.

According to an actual study of students supported by a list of university's literally the world over, the average "student" from (U.S. Education System Standard used...I know, I know...WHY?) the average student from grade level's 6 through 12 "READ" as in an actual book of words less than nine (9) books to round out the number per student while the same total student number used "watched" (as in media formats) over two hundred movies, films or slide-shows on the very same subjects of pointed study.

In my humble opinion, the best term was all ready used before my posted reply: "lazy".

The conditioning is to "view" now, thus making it assumed that what you see (and commercials are a great example) is the truth or the 'best answer' and because of this, what one 'sees' is more apt to be believed.

Mystic wind post


"Then we could ask the question why does so many people read romance novels? Maybe it is a way for one to escape their life, or put themselves in their own fantasy world."


A secure person, with sufficient esteem would likely have no adverse reaction to enjoying a novel, or soap opera, yet a person with a disposition to blurring the line between reality, and fiction, could well become dispaired by comparing their "routine romances" to that of a novel, or soap opera.

Entertainment is more often based on sensational presentation of social concepts. to educate onesself through such a medium is risking unrealistic expectations.

I find those to be mundane. The historical texts of more interesting and realistic gives you more actual information.

They remember watching "The Exorcist" for the first time. Then being told that its true!

By professing to actually have witnessed some occult phenomena that was shown on TV, or mentioned in a book, or to be capable of being able to do things shown on TV, or read in books, people are hoping for others to
react as they would to it being shown on the TV, or Movie. The same people often first appeal to friends, or associates,
"What if that was real?"

Then after the response is not as entusiastic as they expected, they use the next degree, "I am a _____.", or
"I know a _______", or I have seen______."

So many people today don't truly live life, they get stuck in routine. Then along comes a movie, book, etc. that touches them for whatever reason and it gives them release from that routine. I think most know it is a fantasy and is ok with that for a short time.

I think no harm is done providing people see it as an art form of some kind, movies books are a good form of entertainment, only young people usually tend to be influenced by sci fi characters

Some PPL tend to take things way to serious and hang on every word or thing they see and take it for the truth. Take War of the Worlds when that first came out on radio, it cause such a mass panic. PPL cannot seem to be able to draw the line in whats real and whats make believe.

I recall back in the day, when Ninja movies where the big thing, kids would declare themselves ninjas.

To pull them out of this insane world they live in now. these movies or books give them fantasies in some aspect to get away from the violence, hardship problems in everyday life

I love books and movies, i love all the fantasy, i can sit and get lost in there world for a limited time before reality kicks back in

They only effect my life in a good way because I get joy from them

In the past there was a movie in the talkies (that's how the old cinema was called) where it showed a train coming towards the picture.

People really believed the train was coming towards them, so they panicked and left the theatre screaming and scared.

It sounds funny for the people of today, but this thing still happens but in a different manner.

Many people just believe what others show them and believe that's the truth, they don't care it can be more than that.

''Then we could ask the question why does so many people read romance novels? Maybe it is a way for one to escape their life, or put themselves in their own fantasy world.''

I agree, in fact that's the reason, why usually it is females who read these books?

In my country, there are people who believe the Necronomicon is real. At the same time there are those who just buy a book of spells or find them on the internet and for them that is just all what Wicca and Witchcraft are about. On the internet I can write I am the reincarnation of Cleopatra and I swear I'll find people who'd believe that.

This is also shows the fuss that happened with the Da Vinci Code movie and Harry Potter books and movies, actually it happens with any other popular movie.


All a fuss out of fictional books.

i think people allow books and movies to affect them because its an escape from reality and of course the occult probably intrigues them.

books and movies are propaganda tools designed to change how people think and behave.the goverment particulay use tv and movies as memes as the term goes.to continually send certian messages to people sometimes sublimaly till the slave population are programned to think in the way their masters want.if you dont have a tv like me after a while you really notice how tv controlls peoples minds and world view.

If nothing makes a person exceptional, and they have no talents. They make-up things about themselves to impress others. Since they wasted their life, and never developed exibitable talents, they adopt (and adapt) fantastical TV, and Book characters and fabricate an alter ego around it.

Envy makes people Impressionable, wanting to appear exceptional, without all the dedication.

Im not really sure and I might never understand because I have always set my own standards and went with it despite what anyone else thinks,says or does..While I do like to watch movies and read books,they really dont affect me other than how a dramatic one migtht inspire a tear,a scary one might scare or a funny one might make me laugh.Just simply entertainment....Other than that ? Neh.

Humanity has always had a fear of the darkness. If your read Greek and Roman mythology you find monsters everywhere. Ghost stories were the rage in Europe for centuries. Books like Carmilla, Varney the Vampire, Dracula, Frankenstein were the rage in the 1800s. All about vampires, monsters. The vampire movie ih Hollywood and the vampire books are always with us, they seem to die out, and then new creatures arise. The vampire answers many of our desires, power, inmortality, sex.

Don't forget that people used to burn books. and "witches"

and to agree with the above, everyone has a dark side in them in which they like to see outside themselves, regardless of what they say.

it's called VICARIOUS living.

fans wish they were Harry Potter or Bella Swan or Edward whatshishead.

it's just like romance movies that never happen in real life.

people get hooked, like in a fictional book. it's a different world. and they can forget their own for a time.

Perhaps they cross the line when they berate others for not being entuisastic for their fantastical emulation of such characters.

some ppl cannot tell fact from fiction. ppl love to be something they are not and it is easy for them to role play after seeing or reading something.

It becomes obvious that when a person watches a TV about Ghost Hauntings, and Investigators, comes out and claims to be an Investigator.

The scritped cadance, and phishing are just the more obvious signs.

Just as it is obvious when someone watched Underworld, and fancies themselve a Vampire, that fueds with Lycan.

Role Playing is healthy, to a degree. adopting a persona is often amusing to peers.

Seldomly are Role Players intent on convincing people that they are what they portray.

and even rarer is a Role player that becomes personally offended when people are indifferent to their
adopted role.

any book or movie can effect us. look at how many people have been effected by star trek. some just bought trek uniforms, and learned to speak klingon...but others went on and got science degrees and started working to bring about that future.

anything can effect us..its how we let it effect us that is the key.
~W~

I'm intrigued by how many mass murderers and serial killers all seem to have the same books or movies on their lists of favorites-Catcher in The Rye, Stranger in a Strange Land, 1984, Taxi Driver, and so on. Maybe its just coincidence, or maybe they are all influenced by one anothers lives and the publicity they get once they're caught or killed.

Fact and fiction sometimes become one. Think back of Star Trek, as Kirk opened his communicator, every time I open my cell phone I do the same thing. In 1970 we were not thinking of cell phones, yet here they are. The hypospray is now used in medicine. The paranormal will be the last frontier to be opened.

A few great comments here Dabblers saying when people see tv and than believe it is based on truth, we see that on every turn of life from vampires and werewolfs fighting(underworld) has come up so many times.

deception of the movies and article to put thoughts in a mind yet our belief is to figure what is fact or fiction.

much that is great fiction has truth to it...but from time to time what we think of as fiction turns out to be reality. i enjoy fiction because it allows me to see the world in a different way than i might otherwise. i believe it was arther c clark that drempt up the concept of the communications satellite back in the 40s in a sci fi story he was writing.
the religion of scientology came from the pen of l ron hubbard...stranger in a strange land (a novel i love) came from the pen of robert heinlein...and is a corner stone of one religious path (church of all worlds).
in the 60s and 70s tv and movies taught the masses that racism was a bad thing. at the same time the same outlets have helped to make many people believe in man made global warming...and no...im not one of them lol.
anyways, i think each time someone writes a novel, there is a chance that a kernel of real wisdom will be in it. mostly i dont find such..but from time to time...

happy reading
~W~

I enjoy movies and books for entertainment, and I enjoy imagining myself into a different reality, temporarily, just as a refuge from the daily stuff. I am one who creates stories out of her favorite anime and TV series and imagine myself I am part of the story but I never confused reality with fantasy. I know where to draw the line.

I've been watching TV since I was a baby and I don't know if I was affected by the TV, but till this day I have a fertile imagination.

The only bad thing about it is that the lovely world I saw in anime and TV series don't exist in the real life or are hard to find like friendship, love, etc...That’s my only disappointment.

Another thing that I find extreme is the amount of people claiming that cartoons and other movies, programs for children, are evil and have a bad influence on children. I am not talking about violence and sexual humor in anime, which frankly, if that's the problem just change channel, but connotations related with religions, like for example, stating that a particular cartoons is Satanic because it mentions some whatever goat.

I know parents want protection but if certain stuff that I found on the internet is real then wow...

As for fiction getting into reality, I saw this happening too.

I always thought that American movies exaggerated when they portrayed rich girls as snobbish and bimbos. I know rich girls who aren't like that. However this year I met a girl that is exactly the way preppy girls are in comedy TV series/movies. I couldn't believe what I saw.

Then I thought that movies are based on reality because holy cow, was she irritating? The bad thing is that I had her in my class for a whole year! I wonder if she built up her personality from movies, or if she's really like that! God bless old school days!

The occult is mysterious to most and when it is romanticized the way it has been in the last few decades, people get the wrong ideas. Just like the guy that said he was told the Exorcist was true. It wasn't true actually. It was a fictionalized version of an incident years past in the US that happened to a boy. They made another movie called Possessed about him which is also a fictionalized version but based on the actual case. People like to be scared...it's an adrenaline rush.

Fiction is still fiction and there have always been people who are fans of something or someone. Before the movies and radio it was authors and stage actors, etc. Many were into the burgeoning interest in spirit communication early in the 20th Century and books were written and certain people shocked and others who were the followers and greatly impacted. You could go into many time periods but generally it is the excitement of something beyond ourselves more than our everyday for most, boring lives. The occult fascinates as well as causes those who think it evil to get on their podiums and rant about it. Shrugs, the problem is those who are slightly off kilter and take things too seriously but that has been in every generation. Look at all the people who idolize the Necronomicon which is a fake grimoire. They still try to make something out of it because of their love of H.P. Lovecraft and the mythos he created which was very dark.

People are scandalized by the interest and others think it is silly impressionable people. Those who have never been exposed to anything occult sometimes take the time to learn about the subject after seeing movie or reading a fictional book, such as White Noise which was about EVPs. I think it's an interesting topic and I am sure some looked into it. Doesn't mean things are like movies but on occasion they open the door to people learning something. Other times all it does is attract the loonies that go off on silly tangents of over imagination. It has always been this way.

Heck yes, if it wasn't because the TV showed me about magic, paranormal, etc... Even Halloween because in my country it was popular until 10 years ago, I wouldn't start my interest in the occult, paranormal etc...Even though I was brought up in an environment which shuns these things.

In fact in my country they shun these things because that's what they're taught, I decided to have an independent mind.

I think people take everything too seriously and can't see that things are fiction and are meant for entertainment purposes only.

I also think people just like to be argumentative and create angst and grief for their own entertainments.

people also tend to enjoy mystifying people, often through testimonoies of "Experiences". If they adopt/adapt a preexisting scenerio, then they only need adjust it to their purpose.

Very basic Parapsycology, Suggested reading. Dr. Nandor Fodor.

I don't think it's a matter of "allowing". If one "allows" oneself to be affected, then they are really dangerous people. I used to be affected alot by the dark books and movies I read and watched. I would transform into their characters and live out their scenes. Thing was I didn't know it. I mean that it affected me badly. Then I started going downhill.. I let go of reality. I was a slacker at skool, and I rebelled. I didn't get into obvious trouble for that, but I almost succeeded in self-destruction. Something pushed me back on track and here I am, doing quite ok. It was hard and it still is hard. So, yeap, it's not a matter of "allowing" oneself to be affected... It just happens, sub-consciously.

Well stated Shewolf..

fantasy is an escape, and some people read, or interact with leisure intrest. some people have more to escape from, and absorb fantasy, then when the affect wains they seek the next level, developing hypathetical scenerios that would bring the fantasy closer to "being" something more then fantasy.

Wanting others to cater to their fantastical based fabrications is the next potential phase.

all the while the issues they left unattended will fester, and chase them further into their fabricated persona.

*shivers*

I have witnessed this very process..

exactly...i went looking for the exact quote,
so if someone else knows what i'm referring to,
please correct me, but i think it was
thoreau who talked about bringing ruins
to ruins...the idea that you can go all around
the world to see cultures and histories,
but you bring your baggage, so to speak,
with you...everyone wants to escape for a little...
it's called entertainment...you just have to remember to
come back to shore...
the only problem is that
reality is purely subjective...it exists somewhere
in between statements like,
tomorrow the sun will rise
(fairly certain)
to statements like,
green m&m's on thursday make you horny
(not very likely, at least not as far as
i've seen...)
and that's about all you can be certain of...

There is a sci-fi short story about what appears to be a middle aged man, he apparently flashes between a distant planet colony, and a 60s environment, where he appears to work as a journalist. He is goaded by his peers as being a DayDreamer, and he has near fatal encounters because of his "spells".

In the end it becomes clear that he is actually on a distant planet, and his occupation is a cronicler of the colony, but his writing are of a Middle aged man in the 60s.

I would have to say its because far to many can not seek their adventures in real life as they wish too, there for deeming it potentially possible through the Artistic Pen of writers.
It's nice to cherish a piece of work, but when one becomes Fan Crazed over it, they have lost touch with a sense of reality in actually believing those characters in a Novel/Movie are actually real.

I do not allow to effect me,instead of creating my own assumption,I rather investigate myself and do research.

May I add though,I brought this subject once myself,and needless to say,mine were put to R.I.P.I hope there is no bias in the forums.

i hope not either

I think it depends on how easily influenced an individual is at that time in their life.

It is well documented that hunger, depression, stress and tiredness increase an individuals susceptibility to the power of suggestion. Be that Aliens or magic.

This is why the Moonies fed their "sheep" high protein diets.

Of course this question presupposes one indulges in the need to fill the void, rather than the far more difficult question of how that void got filled in that manner in the first place? *Grinz n licks.