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Do they really exist???

Yes they do … are you feeling attacked by one?
Let me know what you feel and I could offer advice.. after all one has to make sure it is a curse first and nothing else … just like a DR one needs to get it right or there could be drastic consequences.

This thread could have been in conjunction with the witchcraft thread.

Hexes, curses, the "evil eye".. Yes, they exist, yes they work. But only when the individual has a supported belief that they will work, do they cause the most damage. The fear tactic works every time. But, even if the individual being cursed is unaware of it, strange and negative things within their lives seemingly take place.

they have as much power as you want to give them.

can a mortal curse another mortal

I am not even sure if I am going to answer such a common sense question.. But, hey.

Mortals can curse mortals because most curses are placed on mortals by mortals. Certain forms of witchcraft have hexe's, curses, and evil eye spells. Voodun is a practice that has such forms within its practice as well.

If not the "mortals", then who would cast such spells? Gods? Show me a God and I will prove to you that they do exist, without faith to back up such claims.

In turn, show me a "mortal" that can successfully cast a negative spell, and I will show you one spiteful and vindictive individual... HA!!

I definitely believe in hexes and curses. Curses well, are more of a verbal kind to me. There is a superstition that says that if a person has some kind of black mark on the tongue, whatever he/she scolds/says/curses fullheartedly will come true. I don't know, really. But I have heard some "scold" intensely. I am thinking it's the power of the words. Similar to negative thinking. Hexes, are well, more complicated, in that they give the impression that some kind of ritual is practiced in order to put a hex on another. Yeap.

There is power in our tongue & as funnily as the world has it most of us usually end up cursing ourselves because we are not careful enough on what and how we speak about things..of course many of you may be familiar of a curse one endures because of a word of another.

Such notions are pathetic, a d commonly used as a base for exploitation,

Wicca.com/ Wicca/Celtic/Wicca.HTML

a test was done, and three people where sent to a person who had announced a curse upon a planted client, two of one of those individuals was " cleansed" prior to going, the reader an ounces that a curse was on each of them.. it is all a hoax, not a hex..

Those who are said to be hex, will allow the idea to fester because they want to pass blame from what is more likely consequences for
negative behaviour. " The lose of my job, was because of the hex, not because I was late, and often behind on assignments."

Such supernatural pap serves the guilible do if you actually believe in heca, then feel free to be a patsy, and invest time, and money in placebo hoaxery.

i think they are all what you make them

Hi Dabbler
Never doubt the power of the mind.

So one test was done to show hoax curse doesn’t work.. was it bad science or good?
I mean really how do you expect that to hold up to scrutiny? lol

Yes, and I have seen proff.

mankind has fixated on curses for a very long time;
a historic one was the curse of the pharaoh where some of the archeologists and explorers who discovered and brought the King Tut treasures out of Egypt fell ill and died.
another is the one surrounding the cast members of the first Poltegeist film. yet another is the curse of Bruce Lee... people will read into things because it's human nature to look for or seek out patterns.
a fair amount can be attributed to paranormal realms i'm sure.

Like anything if you believe in them then yes they are real and the can be very harmful to you. Most are used against the ones who would harm you first . I believe in them and I have seen them used and even work. Many people would say we are full of crap. Yet the mind can be a dangerous thing if you believe that something can harm you. that is just a given.

I mean if they did not exist or have been proven then where has Voodoo and Hodoo come into play. Evil is as strong a force and good is and I feel that anything could be possible
just my 2 cents

Any Meta-claim..

(forget the "science controls" just produce something of substance)
while the burden of evidence ( not personal tesimony)

All I ask, is that someone simply do, what they demonstrate, or alledged demonstrated.

Extraordinary claims; require extraordinary evidence.

What niche, is filled in evolution, when those who claim extraordinary abilities. When evidence shows accute ability to manipulate peoples Meta..

Reep the harvest you sow.

Another matter is that steroe typing is perpetuated by such Hex.. and Curse
issue.


* Side note, Gypse, and Original VooDoo is still very effective in "Cursing, and Hexing", and they always seem to be around to.. discover, and offer to remove the " curse, or hex." at a price that only cost material.."

If it is meta-physical, then it is by " it's nature" of thought, is it your opinion, that telepahy is involved in.. Curses?

Are you assuming that I may not always have been a skeptic?

Ask Crowley.. he knows..

One would be naive to believe anything mystical does not have some stage trickery involved.

A mental acute, socially adapt person can produce a "hex" upon a person, without invoking some cosmic vibe.

myself here is a book you may find interesting to read *RAINBOW AND THE SERPENT

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In April 1982, ethnobotanist Wade Davis arrived in Haiti to investigate two documented cases of zombis -- people who had reappeared in Haitian society years after they had been officially declared dead and had been buried. Drawn into a netherworld of rituals and celebrations, Davis penetrated the vodoun mystique deeply enough to place zombification in its proper context within vodoun culture.

In the course of his investigation, Davis came to realize that the story of vodoun is the history of Haiti -- from the African origins of its people to the successful Haitian independence movement, down to the present day, where vodoun culture is, in effect, the government of Haiti's countryside.

The Serpent and the Rainbow combines anthropological investigation with a remarkable personal adventure to illuminate and finally explain a phenomenon that has long fascinated Americans.



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the book and movie are very enlightening for many

You can find more at

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Wow you guys.. I cannot say that they exsist, and I cannot say that they dont.. I havent a clue.. and no matter the research shown I still might be skeptical on either side of the fence.. But one thing I can testify to is this... I do believe you can curse yourself or others with your words.. I have a hard time in believing that it could be a coinsidence when everytime you get pulled over and say "SHIt.. Im gonna get a ticket" It happens and just like when you say "Damn, well it will be ok.. I'll get off this time" That happens as well.. So I do believe that when you speak negative things on yourself you speak "death" to that situation.. And when you speak postivly that you are speaking "Light" into the situation..

I believe in hexes and curses.

Hi Dabbler .. it would be hard for the wiccans here to do it as they have a harm none catch. lol

Darkness Whispers, Spot on..

and negative mindframes can be reinforced with outside input as well.

If I just suggest you might be "cursed", at that moment the mind subconcsiously references mishaps..

As if some binign universal force would be so petty.. that any lowely entity could manipulate, and direct it. The simplest " energy" to manipulate is the mental energy of people who are already cluttered with irrational concerns.

Wise words Dabbler and good advice, funny thought I had as an experiment is I could curse you and nothing would happen from me cursing you however all that does go wrong with you will be your own doing in some synchronicity way.. however a majority of the people I teach would be very sick or worse from me .. funny old world … lol

Not catching what you are saying.

Np I was playing with the thought that you don’t believe a curse will work and others do which is the whole system in a nut shell .. it works on those who believe and not on those who don’t, whether or not science can prove it or not.. it is what it is lol

you just contradicted yourself, btw science is not concerned with hexes, and curses that is in the psycology field.

I have to agree with Dab on this.

There is no way to prove that hexes and curses actually work.

If someone gets cursed today and then 20 years down the road, gets hit by a bus, they're foolish if they think it was "the curse."

I mean, there's no way they got hit by the bus because they failed to look both ways. Right? it HAD to be the curse.....

~spoooooooooky~

Really dab?

too funny

Depends on which side of the fence you sit on lol

Aleister Crowley defined it as "the Science and Art
of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will

I would have to say that they do work. I used to use a few when I was younger. They seemed to have great effect.

Crowley knew well that a persons Will could be compromised.

Superstition does the rest.

A few people here clearly demonstrate a rational understanding of such concepts. At the heart of the topic is Will. Practical people understand such concepts to be psyco-effective. A person predisposed to negative, is more so subject to a curse, then a person with a stable will.

Crowley was a loon, a nut and not right in the head. I would take his words with a grain of salt.

Secondly, if one were to put a true hex or curse on someone, then the individual would know it outright. Only because those true feelings behind the hexes cause considerable amount of emotional, physical and mental damage if done the right way.

For instance, a curse of death in the Voodun culture is to put some grave dust under the porch of your enemies house. This solidifies the meaning behind the hex itself. Then in time, the person may become sick, gaunt or mentally unstable. Even though they were not told about what was placed under their porch, the universal energies would take their course nonetheless.

Note that I did leave out the other half of the ritual of the Voodun hex. You didn't think I would give it all away did you...

Anywho, I know a story about a man who said he was cursed by a Voodoo doc. He ended up being bed ridden for about 6 months or so in a local backwoods clinic. The docs couldn't figure out what was causing the mans illness. The man always had a temp of 102 and was always feeling sick to his stomach, couldn't eat or sleep and was always swetting. He explained to the docs what had taken place, so the docs thought it only plausable to call in a local Voodoo doc for him. The Voodoo doc did the usual thing and a day later, the man was cured.

Now, could this have been mind over matter? If so, then what was causing his temperature to rise to the extremes, another case of mind over matter and paranoia? Could fear cause this type of physical reaction?

Makes one think.

Yes. But they almost always go back on the sender as well.

The sender theory is just that, a theory. Based on the ways of Karma alone. If the sender believes something will come back to them, then maybe they should think against casting something that may turn out to be a negative action, as such would cause the negative reaction in the end.

Society is easily manipulated out of fear, anything that is discussed regarding negative impacts I would take with a grain of salt. This suggested illusion is just to keep the practitioner from maintaining their focus on what they are trying to achieve. Don't let anyone tell you that you will have "3 fold", "7 fold", or anything else "fold" coming back to you as this is just the old wives tale of fear to keep the practitioner at bay.

I think its all about how much intent and energy you focus into it. If you really want it to happen, and you will it enough..who is to say it wont?

yeah, the whole, coming back to the sender thing, I think is a bit questionable, its just some dogma put in place to stop people from doing "bad things", I do not belive it.

if I get an incline to " curse" someone, I can assure you they will eventually lose leisure security. No mystical forces needed.

Count me in on that one Upir, I could use a good hexin'!


I don't understand why anyone would EVER want to curse or hex anyone.

The worst thing that could happen is, they'll die.

We're all gonna die anyway at some point. Does it really matter how and why?

Good or bad, I wouldn't want anyone's blood on my hands. Those here who wouldn't mind having blood on their hands, you reap what you sow.

Problem is upir most are wiccan and they are bound not to harm, the others love you too much to hurt you…. The rest don’t care ….. why do you want to be cursed?

For me I need to meet you to get the mojo on you

Thanx for the concern, but there is no reason to be either way.

There's another old saying... "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me."

Same goes with cursing and hexing and all the rest. Thus, why would anyone care whether someone curses them or blesses them? All such say infinitely more about the person doing the blessing/cursing than ever it does to the object of their love or hatred. Those who love reap the beauty thereof just as those who hate become vessels of hatred, bitterness and rage. We all ultimately reap what WE sow... not what someone else does.

Again... either way... words affect none of us one whit, unless we are gullible or fearful enough to believe it.

Curse me, bless me... or ignore me... I shall continue on my path unaffected. However, the emotions you entertain for good or evil will affect you far more than ever they shall me.

Either way, words of either blessing or cursing are inherently powerless.


- Upir'

I believe in hexes and curses, yet, only to me it is pyschological. hexes and curses are to cause one fer there fore cause them to have doubt in their better judgement or whatnot. the bottom line is that to me a Hex and curse can and will always work on the weaker minded person.

I mean think of what a person says in the curse/hex on you it all comes down to you allowing the thought to cause you fear and believe if it rains every single day your suppose to go out oand do something in the yard, oh it is the curse.

that you will have unhappiness for the rest of your life , well of course you will if your worried about being happy. dah...

They work on the persons mind and fears bottom line
the same as suggested thought .

I am a wiccan and that is the only way I believe that they work, is on soemone who is weaker in thought and mind. Some may even call it mind games.

Hexes and Curses are not the same as the walking dead(voodoo and hoodou) that is potions and other drugs and things all together.

Yes they do, if you know how to use them properly.

Yes they do. The strenthe and abilitys of them though souly depends on the strenth and abilities of the user and weither they use them in the right way

any " success" attributed to " Hexes or curses" is psyhological in nature.

If one examines the nature of those who perpetuate the concept, one will find a tendancy for the same people to conveinently remove said " curse, hex".

Plenty of psychological leveraging takes place.

As I mentioned above, the common denominator in people who " accept" that they are "cursed or hexes" is that they are seeking to avoid confronting consequences of irrational behaviour, or lack of motivation to do things without shortcutting.

Negative reinforcement is so easy, certain individuals so badly want people to believe in curses, so they can simple scapegoat said consequences of said behaviour.

Or they want to subsequently " aid" the person in removal of the " curse" that they detected.. with their mystical qualifications,

All they need is..
incesce.. 5 bucks a stick
Candles ( " imported") 20 bucks a piece
of course the mumbo jumbo serviceis free .. or by love offering..

Re: ~Dab~

Its funny how you bring up the candle sticks. I have been laughing for about 15 years now about how the so called practitioners of "wicca" always use the wrong type of candles for their supposed "ceremonies", "rituals", and "rites". But I am not about to show them or tell them what actually needs to be used, and how to properly use it.

10 dollars a candle.. HA! That kills me with laughter. True esoteric practitioners do not "buy" their candles, they make them... HA!

Perhaps so, yet all this time and effort indeed energy just disapates into the ether without any returns?

Seems unlikely the well read or wise would bother?

Unless there was something to this chanting and dark thoughts using low pitch, Low Frequency Resonation, I often wonder if LuciFeR indulged.

If thoughts are things then a poweful mind such as his might alter chance at the quantum level, that Tiny shift in energy when a 0 maybe a 1 or a 0 momentarily?Of course this requires a feeling of which threads to pull.

Like the human who does complex algorithms in his head but knows not how, it does exist!

The Butterfly and Chaos affect can theoretically amplify results, a wing flap here, a Hurricane there?

Perhaps here is your science? Tfs.

You are right on the frequency variables there, chum. But, the meaning behind the words are the energy conduit. The candles and other B.S. are there for the focus alone.

I think so, they sometimes swash around my little dishwasher with some nasty results but way too many coincidences, so yes I believe these things can happen.

Hexes, curses, black magic... As the manipulation of energy, spirits, matter, and more, first off it might be important to recognize that magic does not have a color per se. Typically, what constitutes "black" magic is subjective; people label certain spells "black" because they disagree with the results of those spells.
That being said, the term "black magic" is typically used to refer to curses and hexes. Less commonly, its used to refer to any magic used for personal gain. Therefore, it can refer to anything from a curse intended to cause sickness to a spell intended to bring wealth and financial success.

This raises an old ethical dilemma; is it always wrong to hurt another? What if it's to save a life? To right a wrong? Thats a question that only the individual can answer according to his/her beliefs. Black magic is real and works just like any other type of magic. A spellcaster, through the manipulation of certain energies, forces, spirits, or matter, brings about an intended result. For those of you familiar with casting magic spells, this is elementary.
Every culture has its own repertoire of black magic. When you look at the traditions of the ancient Druids, for instance, manipulation of natural energies was key. In contrast, throughout the continents of Africa and South America the invocation of spiritual beings and constructs dominated. However, with the invention of the Internet, increased communication, and global travel we live in a unique situation. Modern black magic employs a mixture of global traditions, resulting in the potential for effective and powerful spells.

Its important also to remember that casting spells is a time-honored tradition, requiring years of experience and practice, much like surgery or medicine. An essential requirement for black magic, like all magic, is therefore a competent spellcaster. Spells should not be approached by the uninitiated or the inexperienced; this is especially true for black magic.

In an earlier post I mentioned voodoo, voodo " curses" actually effect a person, but not by any mystical manner, in voodo practice an individual " cursed"suffers at the hands of persons alligned with the " curser". A very strong network, gypsy often deploy the same activity on a prospective mark.

Something as simple as sprinkling phosphate on plants.

Or Arranging for a person to mysteriously loosing their job, or getting evicted.

If magic has no colour or frequency why use black candles and why all those dark robes and deep chanting voices?

We like Metallica and heavy rock, they like some nun and the "Von trap family" in some Swiss meadow.

The opposite might also be said... why white candles high pitched voices and little tinker bells for the good guys?

Just an observation~Grinz.

I am not sure bout the robes. But some do call for candles. But different people do the persedues differently. Some don't care if others see who they are. But they are those who uses the robes to hide their idenities.

I think most informal incantations require some prep but can be done without to much of the showy stuff. Oh and Hexes and Curses tend to have a rebound affect if when you take a lot of precaution.

true! they do rebound sometimes.

Consistently " curses" and such are generally vague, even gratuitious.

What an odd quirk of human parapsycology.

Yep...But then again there are a lot of things odd about humans in general. the desire to hex someone may be one of them, how often do you see a bear try to get revenge for some of the stupid things humans do?

They reward stupid humans with examples of there raw instinct.. like when they tear open the cars of humans to feed on food left inside.

Something so simple as changing routine, can cause mishaps chains of mishaps, perpetuating such " possibilities" is suspect behaviour, motive, intent..

If a voodo practicher gets caught scamming, and mental intimidation, they are hunted down the Sam people often circuit with 418 " marketers".

People without means to pay, are " taken care of" until a " favor" is asked,
in a sense a Hex metaphorically is a negative Boone.

Decidedly. Hexes and curses unless you have a desire to curse yourself, are unhappy omens.

I like that reasoning," unhappy omens" a sign/hint that one is not satisfactory in ones affairs, mishaps do occur in such atmospheres. Feelings if being cursed could simply be the concsious mind telling a person to sync.

Yes like trying to fix or perfect everything, hexing others may show a desire for self improvement or self-loathing.

My concern is in people that claim to be gifted, set on convincing others that they have curses upon them.

Even on a few psycic sites, and one psychic institute site, they clearly state, that such a claims by anyone presenting themselves as physic should be received with suspicion.

An epademic has run for so long, someone goes to a shoppee' for a reading, and is told they have a curse, and a follow up session is recommended. So many open cases..

The scruples of such individuals are so shady, ulimatly predetory, holding a person mentally/ " Spiritually" hostage.g

http://globalpsychics.com/enlightening-you/metaphysics/being-psychic/fraud-protection.shtml

Also:
This "curse" matter deserves a few strong words of advice here. Often clients only discover that they're "cursed" when they consult a psychic and they are told such garbage. Most people who seek out psychics generally have a problem or situation they're trying to turn around in their lives. Some people may be emotional and very confused and very vulnerable to the less than ethical readers that prey on people's fears and vulnerabilities.

Blaming bad luck or terrible circumstances around you on a curse is convenient for the reader and potentially lucrative if they can scare you enough and convince you that they can remove the curse they see over your life. A common ploy is to tell the seeker that the curse is attached to your money somehow and if you hand that 'bad money' over to the reader, he or she will BRAVELY dispose of it for you....PUHLEEEEZE!!!. As silly as this sounds, many people are conned this way.

Don't worry about Spells and Curses. Even if someone does wish you ill, they have no power to influence you or your life unless you GIVE it to them. Whatever they wish upon another is what will return to them. This is a Universal Law. If there is such a thing as a true curse; it's believing that you're cursed. If you believe that you will have bad luck, you will. If you expect and focus on bad things, they will come to you. The reverse, of course, is also true. If at all possible avoid "spells" and "curses." If someone offers to put a love spell on someone you're enamored with, or to remove a curse for a fee, move on! You are the one with the power to create what you want in your life, but it is not in your power not should it be, to manipulate and control another human being, even in the name of 'love'! >Don't expect a psychic reader to do anything more than show you where you're presently heading, the possible outcomes, and the way to creating what you desire. What you do with that information is entirely up to you. A good reader will EMPOWER you to take your life and destiny under your own conscious control!

also:
http://www.pharrah13.com/spells.html

Yes but thoughts are things and you are thinking about it are you not?

As your thoughts intertwine with the very fabric of your being you inexorably leave yourself vulnerable, like it or not.

Of course some are stronger than others, the question is...How strong are you?

I would say very strong or else you would not play the devils advocate, careful where you you lay your faith. it may betray you...is that a thought? *Grinz*

Falling Star,

What! In tarnation' are you rabbling about?

Your post is completely incoherant.

You do realize that what I posted is from a source.

Try to say something relative.

Your whole act is getting to be redundant.

Well you may have noticed Cancers thread
"Thoughts are things" ...it has been there long enough Dab!

As you clearly missed the point I will make it simpler for you.

As we discuss and think about the notion of the "Hex" that very act gives it power and substance.

Unless you think Cancers wrong as well... wouldn't surprise me!

Weather or not I subscribe to Cancers article( yesi read it) is irrelavent, my angle here is applicable, and practical aspects of what are refered to as Curses, and hexes.

Basically that the whole notion is irrational pap, a tool concept that is antique. You, yourself are " giving power" to the " thought".

You may note that all my post are disections of the idea, that simply thinking harm on someone is not sufficant in anyway to invoke harm on them.

The tool is as the article I posted mentions abused more by unethical individuals to coherce guilible people.

Your mistake is that you assume this is a " does not exist" vs " does to exist" matter.. it is not..

My point is I think Cancer is right and you seem to disagree;

If they are "Gullible" individuals then by definition they "Believe"
and this gives the Hex real power.

So those that can cure are not all predatory fraudsters, they are able to manifest the anti-dote using the same principles.

A Great example is those that opened the Egyptian tombs, many got sick or died. Coincidence, I think not, a Millennia of prayer, thought and superstition hunted them down.

They should have prayed or sought a Master.

no.

Actually no.

You are way intent on using Cancers article as an Authority base.

My point is not the " power" of hex and curses, but those who perpetuate such concepts.. Your position is biased, because you have something to lose, an invested reputation.

So all in all, your reasoning is lost here.

There are plenty of cases to support the posted article.

Your tangents are simply attempts to " win" ground.

Who cares about curses? People who are want to spook others, and people who seek a scapegoat for the consequences of irrational actions, or lack of action.

Yes they do. Learning who and how someone placed one upon you is the harder part. Once you know, only then can it be reversed and sent back to them.

Hexes and Curses most certainly do exist! Anyone who possesses a serious interest in the subject may message me privately and I will explain further. Including how you can protect yourself!

The person does not have to know they are cursed for there to be an effect. I have only cursed someone once and I had a very good reason for it but will not go into it because it was very personal. One can make a curse very particular but most often if one does, that sort of dilutes it. I didn't make it particular, meaning I didn't give a blow by blow run down of what I wanted to happen to the individuals involved. The person could not maintain work for months and their mate who was only in their early thirties developed a brain tumor and died four years later. I didn't go into it as stating anything more than bad luck but it worked. I will not say anyone deserved to die and if I had done nothing at all, everything may have played out the same way.

I have always felt guilt played a big part in rebound because I don't believe in three-fold and things like that. It was never talked about until the latter part of the 20th Century, relating to Wiccan beliefs which is a more modern phenominon. I had a short lived portion of it because I felt bad after and didn't reinforce the curse which one has to do in most systems. It was my own adapted working. As I stated, I have only done that once because I don't see the point. I think that when someone deliberately does harmful things the pendulum comes down and eventually gets them one way or another. I really didn't need to do anything but like most people who do this sort of thing, I was angry. The anger propelled the curse. They were not aware of it at all. They will work but it depends on the magickian most of the time and the system they choose to use (IMHO). I will say I used American Folk magic and some other things mixed together. I am very eclectic.

Nope. Just in the mind. Our minds are really powerful and we can convince ourselves of just about anything. If you can get your mind to believe something, your body jumps on board too...and that can be good or bad for you.

Really.....do you really think you have control over someone else's life, overpowering the universal plan? Uh no. That's ego talking there.

Btw, the coming back to you thing, 3 fold....well, I believe it does exist though, because when you are trying to "curse" someone, you are sending negativity and bad vibes and that is what comes back to you.

I am a Reiki master and I perform Reiki, I have to ask the guides of the person I am healing for them to allow the energy to come to that person. If it is denied, it goes out into the universe. We have guides watching out for us.

It is the INTENTION behind the words you are sending out to people that is positive or negative energy. Be careful about what you put out there, even if it's just bitching.

The state of the world is a reflection of our actions and words. Look around you. How can you change it?

they are very very real. I have had a friend who is always cursed with a hex when he poses a threat to me, or yells at me, my mate makes him sick somehow.

Well, the part of me that thinks magick and curses and hexes could actually work does believe so. But since I'm a psy major, the mind tries to think scientifically. That a person can convince thmeselves and others of something if they really wanted to. Who knows.

Viable cognitive reinforcement.

a minority of people who accept "curses and hexes" for either personal agendas, or for scapegoat rationalization, will imposs upon others the "possibility" that curses are rational, and need to be a major concern to the masses..

Is it possible for the curses to be undone once they have been placed on a person?

Is it possible for the curses to be undone once they have been placed on a person?

I would suggest simply do a private ritual, and avoid anyone that tells you you ate cursed, ask questions, " Who?" "Why?" " What" don't settle for vague answers, or questions posed as statements.

Consider you positive accievmrnts, in the time you were determined to be " cursed". Consider easing up on over tasking, or over booking, such things can tax a person mentally, and make then mishap prone, surround yourself with aconplished people..positive people..

by ritual I mean something folk, burn sage, and a candle cast off the " curse" and catch the fresh air in your lungs.

Loosening up on grudges is a good idea as well.

One other way to relieve yourself from alledged curses, is to acctualize your flaws, and accept consequence..

the positive side is that you eventual will start acctualizing your strenghts, and accepting your rewards, however subtle they are.

Most people that would lead you to think you are cursed are indubious in intent, it is very much a pretense for making you a weaker person in their "stable".. a sinister haha "look what the idiot feel for." A true bully manuver.. again take note of such people, and try to locate positive people.. (not beaming happy people persay) but positive people, people with imaginations, and creativity. Individuals that don't propagate such
grandeous ideals, and always try to out mystify each other.

Very well said Jamie.

Do i think that they exsist, yes, do I believe that they do indeed work yes.

It is in what you believe, the mind can do strange things to a person, can cause symptoms and other strange things. For example, a woman beleives that she is pregnant, perhaps she has been trying to concieve and wants its so badly, and then she starts to feel morning sickness, maybe her monthly is late, sbut she has made her self to believe that she is indeed pregnant with out even yet having had a test done. and once she has the test done and it shows she is not she no longer feels sick... as I said the mind is mysterious

This post will appear abrasive.

Imagine a victim of rape being told they inadvertanly asked for it.

Now imagine a counselor telling them, no you didn't ask for it.

But then associates reiterate, " Just look how you dressed, you went with the guy.. after kissing him moments after introduced..." Then they empisise
" You just need to accept that you may have initiated the rape."

i belive they are real

Dabbler, you have a point, in many cases i believe that one's own behavior is a much the cause of something. when you dwell on unhappy things you sink further into depression, the same is true for most emotions, and with this if someone were to walk up and you talked and then they seemed angry and "cursed" you it is your choice to believe or not, but even if we say we don't sometimes our subconscious mind does and we end up thinking "i really am cursed" when something bad happens just because we spent to much time thinking about it or because we inadvertently made ourselves believe something. I know i probably didn't day that quite right but...

Magic is a state of mind, yet has nothing to do with the mind.

yes they do be careful what you wish for espeicaly when you are angry

A hex or a curse can be simple. Such as wishing or thinking in a negative way towards someone.

At the same time, many hexes or curses are in the mind. The more you believe the more real it becomes.

This is because your attaching your energy and will to this and creating the situation you desire. It works for positive things and negative.

Lorex,

Your post is why I press those who propagate such concepts to others, perpetuating the " power" and degressing their will.

Enforcing their default mentallyt that they are " cursed".

The underlying sinister practice employees by unethical psychics is presented in my earlier post.

By implying that "curses and Hexes" are an enevitable fact, that people just need to accept. Such people can be reasoned to actually be " cursing or hexing" a person.

I refuse to believe that these do, in fact, exist. I think there are a lot of psychotic and schizophrenic people out there that need some serious mental medical attention. If I had a nickel for everytime some idiot said they were putting a curse on me that never worked or had a nickel for everytime I heard someone claim to be a black magic wiccan, (this is not possible as they believe in the rule of 3), I would be rich!

Sexy,
I'm sure you would be very rich. think of this, if you believed in them then if someone where to tell you you were cursed you would began acting and thinking like a person who was hexed, because you don't they hold no power over you.
KE

dang right they dont lol my mind and my will are way too strong to fall victim to something like that

Hexes and curses, i'm not quite sure in my opinion. Perhaps maybe it isn't really magic, maybe its just thoughts, you think something enough and it comes true. For example you wish ill will towards somebody and then it happens.
The words and incantations were added to try to harness it, or control it, to give it air and meaning.