I was thinking the other day. It might lead for a good conversation and then again, it might be something that is ridiculous, but irregardless, do you think there is a difference between our dreaming minds and those dreaming minds of vampires? I have heard some say vampires do not dream. So to all the vampires on the forum, be ye sanguine, psychic, etc., what types of dreams do you usually experience compared to those that you know that are not vampires?
I know that I tend to have dreams that come true sometime in the future. And I usully don't remember them till something triggers it. I get a lot of Deja Vu. I also tend to have very vivid dreams, and I have been known to wake myself out of them.
Hmm...not sure that is specific to vampires. I have had a few of those myself.
Doesn't happen very often, but when it does, wow.
Also I have very vivid dreams, although I don't recall waking myself up out of them - do you mean that you realize you are dreaming, and force yourself awake?
If so, is this something you just do naturally, or have you practiced this? I am asking because if you can train yourself to do this, it would be useful to wake yourself in the midst of a dream you want to remember.
I don't seem to have dreams when I'm hungry...out dreamwalking I suppose....
when i dream,i dream of others that dream.
somehow i can connect to them and meet them threw a dream.I used to think 'at first' that i was crazey.. but then i actually met some of these vamps in real life,and knowing that i already knew them.
A.P. can be used threw dreams.
I also dream of past things that has happend.
vampire wars..usually in relms of hell or other relms.
things that happend long ago,even in egypt.
I have asked many elders about these ones...
they tell me that the past ..what was left.. the energies
were teaching me.
I have alot to learn about this yet.
but,i also dream regular dreams.
just not often.
BTW... Just so you know... irregardless isn't a word. =]
And...I don't feel that vampyres and other people
have different dreams. It all depends on who you are...
some people never remember their dreams... I've had
people sleep with me to monitor how I sleep and they
say I DO have dreams but I forget them all the
instant I wake. I think it was because when I was younger I had night terrors.... but dreaming varies too much amongst normal people to call anything the norm in the first place. I don't see how dreams would differ at all.
Well, then, I shall reword this...
The approach taken by lexicographers when documenting a word's uses and limitations can be prescriptive or descriptive. The method used with irregardless is overwhelmingly prescriptive. Much of the criticism comes from the double negative pairing of the prefix (ir-) and suffix (-less), which stands in contrast to the negative polarity exhibited by most standard varieties of English. Critics also use the argument that irregardless is not, or should not be, a word at all because it lacks the antecedents of a "bona fide nonstandard word."
So it is not a REAL word with REAL meaning... it is a commonly used word that should not be a word, but has been popularized because people who speak it dont realize that 1 word shouldn't carry double negatives... It will also not be a word used is professional speaking.
I hope this is more you your liking... it is just as much of a word as aint.... not proper English by any means.
But back on topic....
How was is you thought dreams would differ from a vampire toa person?
Just a question. I have heard that real vampires do not dream.
To get a clarification, what is your definition of a vampire?
not dreaming could also be mistaken as not remembering dreams as well, For years I thought I didn't dream.
I have dreams that tell the future and things of chaos and hell and not of this world, I also have spiritual dreams, and sometimes I don't remember my dreams at all. I am normal, not a Vampire (just fascinated with them).
what is a vampire?
what is a native american? some would say that a member of one of the aboriginal american tribes.
but you can also argue that native refers to place of birth. so anyone born in america is a native american.
people refer to "asians" frequently as a racial group...but everything from turkey down to saudi arabia, thru iraq, iran, and then north east to vladivostock are all parts of asia, and it takes in both "caucasian" and "mongolian" racial groups as well as others such as sub-saharian africans that have immigrated in live in groups in the arabian peninsula.
ok...so what is a vampire? ill say that if someone refers to themselves as a vamp, ill grant them vamp status. that goes for any undead that might be reading this, to living breathing people that feel a need to ingest either blood or energy from others.
ok...definitions out of the way, do vamps dream as others?
speaking for myself, i have no idea. i dont really know what others dream.
i have had dreams of the future that came to pass. its only happened a very few times, but its happened.
ive had dreams where i went to the home of someone that i knew from school or work, and lay down with them as they slept...and the next day when i see them, ive been told that they drempt of me, and just felt weak and drained.
and i dream about disjointed odd things as well.
so...do non vampires have similar dreams? lol
pardon the overly long post...i hate such things, but it seemed to make sense in this case.
~W~
I think people who practice a lot of dreamwalking with their psychic abilities tend to have more experience with entering another person's dream and have more visitations with others for a feeding. I've had a lot of random vampiric encounters through dreaming and waking moments by sensing them there nearby psychically. I don't consider myself a vampire by any means, however I know there's a connection and it's been that way all of my life.
im dreaming every night.. most of my dreams are violent. im killing someone even my familie and friends.. and in dream im allways happy for what im doing. this is kind a strange. sometimes in real life many peoples call me "sexual vampire". (those who are interested in these things). i dont think so. im normal human with some issues and its all. i just like feel the pain and do pain to others. i know that all those things im dreaming just because im feeling like that inside my. i just cant understand why friends or family im killing in dreams because in real life i care a lot of them. hope u understand something of this . :D
I rarely remember my dreams when I'm not twoofing but I have been told that I talk in another language while sleeping.. but I do remember a couple dreams that I have had many times over the years.. One is I was in a hospital room giving birth to a baby which I always wake up just as the doctor proclaims "We're losing her" and in another I am on a street in London in what appears to be back in the horse and carriage days with a strapping gentleman in his mid twenties. He was telling me a silly about a person he works with that was trying to convince him to expand his company to make toys. It was early evening and a buggy had just gone by us as the horse did its thing right there on the street and continues along it's way like nothing had happened. I exclaimed how nasty that was and that there should be a law requiring poo catchers on all buggies." That's what street sweepers are for, do you wish them to be out of a job?" He asked, his lips curling up into a smile as a chuckle escaped followed by full belly laughter. I playfully slapped him on the shoulder for teasing me. He only laughed harder and slightly squeezed my hand. The crinkles around his warm loving eyes made me realize that I loved this man a great deal. The night was filled with the sounds of Celtic music coming from a Irish pub just down the lane and the clomping of the horses hooves on the stone street as they passed by.
Suddenly someone grabbed him from behind and began pulling him into an ally way. Before I could scream a clammy hand clamped over my mouth and I was pulled by another person into the ally and i was writhing and trying to break the grip of my assailant. It was no good all I could do is watch in horror as the other man slit my companions throat. He fell to the ground like a sack of potatoes, His blood flowing into a nearby drain as a gurgling sound escaped his throat as though he were choking on his own blood and then silence. I felt fear and panic rising up in me like a boiler as the man turned his attention to me. "Now lassy It is your turn but not before we have had a bit of fun." He said with a deep Scottish accent. His hands were covered in the blood of my now dead companion
Regardless of what many may profess, everyone has dreams and those that consider themselves vampires are human. There is a difference of sorts we don't understand. Some believe it is a physical difference and others spiritual and some again feel it is both or neither. I think this can only be answered individually.
I took a sociology class in college where each day we had varying topics and kept journals. This was in the late 60s. The topic of dreaming came up so it gave me the opportunity to ask about my dreaming. I lucid dream and in color. It is so intense at times I can wake up tasting something I have eaten in a dream or the feel of some other activity I have experienced. Most of the time I don't dream I am being physically harmed but on occasion I have been scared. I also dream when I am in what I call twilight sleep which is between waking and asleep and occasionally I have waking dreams or some might call them visions. I missed getting off a bus one day in the 70s for my job and had to walk back a couple of extra blocks because of one of these episodes. Most of the time people don't wake up directly after a dream. It isn't remembered, but everyone has them. My teacher said I was ahead of most people for my time in the way I dreamed. He didn't point at me and say that I must be a vampire, lol. Each individual comes to their own conclusion on that idea.
I don't believe in hell other than it is a creation of thought and not an actual place. If you believe in it you will probably endure it for awhile. I do dreamwalk and do not astral travel as so many speak of outside of that state. I am a little skeptical of people saying they OBE because I know from reading years of research that it is not a common practice of most people. Since I would say as well as I can recollect, it was aroud the 80s or so, I heard more and more professing they were running amok in the astral plane. Not that it wasn't spoken about prior but not to the extent it is now. I am not so sure that I believe everyone who makes these statements and how would one prove that anyway? How do you not know it isn't something created in a deep altered state or dreaming and not real? I am open to all options. With so many into meditation, trancing and the occult these days you hear a lot of stories or at least I have.
Since I am a Spiritualist my channeled teacher said society grows by the creation of new words so words that weren't accepted prior or new ones made up shows a sign of societal growth. Look at all the people who write noone. It isn't a word but I have a friend with a Masters in English and she is on the net so much she now writes it all the time and I have to laugh.
I just believe like anyone else that this whole idea will vary from person to person and it won't be based on whether they are a vampiric or not. If someone is an intuitive they will probably have very perceptive dreams no matter what you label the individual.
I use to talk to a man online who was a polysomnographer and you wouldn't believe what he told me people would do in their sleep. Very interesting vocation if you can sit and watch a machine and people sleeping all night. He told me some tales but didn't name names of course. He was also a self identified vampiric. Night jobs are the ticket.
i think if our eyes are open then
how can we tell if it is a dream of the
mind or a dream of a state of being
Thanks Mollidew, I am in your Camp.
Just last night/early this morning, I dreamt I made an increadible leap across a street down from a building, onto a newsstand counter, and woke with the bottom of my feet still sore.
as a vampyre i have dreams pretaining to end of the world or someones death even i get predictions and remember the dreams i've had when all of a sudden i am doing the thing i've done in my dream and it scares the hell out of me sometimes and it can be quite freaky when your drems come true
This is a topic that really holds my interests . I consider my self to be an astral vampire , meaning i feed occasionally by astrally projecting and seeking others out from who i can effect a release of energy . Astral projection falls very near to the realms of lucid dreaming and dream walking and i feel the ability to do these things well is invaluable to my ability to actually function as an astral vampire . For example by locating someone in a dream ( either pulling them into my dream , or by getting into there's ) i can ( if i retain enough awareness ) use their dream presence as a subtle link to their real sleeping self .
Also by becoming aware that i,am dreaming i can move outside of dreams , this is weird and had only happened twice so far .but i can actually watch dreams forming and move between them .
Dreams for everyone are amazing things to experience , but to begin to understand the nature of them , and manipulate them is something not a great many people do , I think the majority of people barely remember their dreams , let alone use them for any particular purpose . I think that my dreams / sub conscious ramblings are probably much the same as everyone else's. The thing that i believe that separates my dreams from a non vampiric human is purpose and the ability to hold on to that purpose and be aware while in a deep dream state . I love dreaming it,s wonderful , I think if all the places of earth are now mapped out the next obvious place for uncharted adventure is my own psyche.
Sylivia, I find your dream(s) quite interesting. I have prophetic dreams as well, and unlike humans I dream every night, and I remember them. All thou' some Vampir's do not dream, and when we do it is usually of the past. Unfortunalty, as ha living many lives means living throu' many unwanted events. As do some humans. I have dreams of the past, future, of the spirit world, ect. Again, as do some humans 'psychics'. The point is, it matters not what species you are, every one dreams whether it is in sleep or just a dream toward life.
The Dream memory bank; I was discussing this on-line and someone mentioned you can re-access forgotten dreams when you start to enter dream state.
I tried it and it actually works as long as you remember to steer the dream as you nod off.