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What i like to know is what was first Voodoo or the corn dollies? as there is an arguement going on about the 2, a group is saying that voodoo was first started in Haiti, and the other group is saying corn dollies were started before voodoo, whta is your opinion on this?

voodoo is really old and at one point, voodoo priest did use corn doll so they probably are extremly close, of being of the same time frame

corn dollies, and image dolls were around long before VooDoo or probably other religions to...

I believe the Corn Dollies have been around longer, then the Voodoo Dolls. Corn Doll are indeed used in all types of culture and spells.

i have never read anything on corn dollies, but i have read a lot on voodoo. i dont remember hearing anything of corn dollies but it does make sense that they came around first.

My understanding of the roots of Voodoo is that it formed from elements of Catholisism and elements of Native African religions in the southern US and Caribbean during the colonization of these areas by the Spanish, French and Portugese.

I believe that corn dollies have therir origin in Native American culture and, thus, preceed the practice of VooDoo. Perhaps the "VooDoo" doll was adapted from the Corn Dollies of the Native American cultures.

There are dolls and figures that are believed to have been used for ritual work in the prehistoric ages. the first puppets i have found evidene of; originated in the use of magicks around the time of sumerians and mesopotamians. When they realized the sympathy that such objects held. It is natural that these observations were carried on up until the present day.

Most of the information that I have found on "corn dollies/dolly" refers back to native american times, whether the dolls are older than the voodoo belief I don't have an answer for.

I too believe the corn dolls were around before Vodoo, many cultures and religions in past have some similiar dolls that were used in rituals.

i think corn dollies were firstl but like they said, probably not far off from eachother. or they could have been same time average, in different religions or groups of people also.

The Corn doll was first as it is pagan in origin and goes past written words, to save the good spirit that let the corn grow we make a doll if the last sheaf in the field, even to day in England you will see in harvest time a sheaf corner left for the dolls to be made from.
We bring them in and share our warmth and love with the spirit them plough it back into the ground come spring and plant the seeds.
Voodoo is African slave Christianity. The voodoo doll is not the same thing it is not a fertility spirit for crops it is a tool or idol of a person one wishes to perform magic on of varying degrees of good n evil

I am going to have to go with corn dollies and the Native American culture far predates catholicism which as had previously said is where voudon gets it's roots.

I do too believe that corn dollies were first and later slightly later came voo doo dolls.

According to wikipedia.org (I had to look up corn dollies because I've never heard the term before.) corn dollies were used in Druidic European culture, which is ancient.

So it boils down to which culture (or religion) is older, either Voodoo or Druidic Europe. Granted I only skimmed my search on voodoo, but I couldn't find a reference era for how ancient the pratice of voodoo is.

I actually thought that they were kind of the same thing, that or either just two seperate things that are really closely related...

Biggest difference: Voodoo dolls, or poppets as they are sometimes called, are for working sympathetic magic upon a person. Corn dollies are for sympathetic magic involving the Earth--the seasons and harvest and things of that nature.

Voodoo didn’t use dolls till 1900 in new Orleans

Corn dollies where used way back in the day for the harvest festivals each person got one and they made a wish on that doll and in a years time the doll was burned to show the release of the energy built up in the doll so the wish would come true.

Corn dollies, poppets and voodoo dolls come from the same idea but different religions/beliefs.

voodoo in it's currewnt incarnation is younger than corn dollies by far....but the basis of voodoo leads all the way back into africa...the very cradle of man...so to speak....
don't be so quick to discount the age of voodoo's origins

lavisbre has the right of it. As for the use of voodoo dolls, it is an adaptation off of dolls used in various european cultures for healing, if I remember specifically, it was used by what you would call spiritualists, not a specific religion. I do know that early midwives often used them to help during labor and with infant illnesses. Though, I'm not saying voodoo isn't as old, I don't know enough to say yes or no, but like it was said they didn't use dolls originally.

I do believe that Corn Dollies are the older practice of the two. I just think that with the tales from movies and books VooDoo is just the more well known of the two.

I would think corn has been around longer than voodoo, so i would think that a corn dollie would have to be older than voodoo, just because corn has been around longer...

it doesnt matter which one came first the both have strong powers when used

they are very close but voodoo started first

I believe the corn dollies came first. They were used by the Celtic cultures in Great Britain and Ireland going back before the arrival of the Romans. The corn dollies are used in conjunction with festivals such as Lughasadh. They can represent the god as a symbol of harvest sacrifice or a way to wish for a future spouse.

I think the voodoo dolls came as a result of the mixture of Spanish, African and local Caribbean cultures in the 16th-17th centuries.

Corn dollies is older than voodoo. From what I remembber from a class on magic that I went to they said they had been around since before christ but I would have to find out again just to be sure.

I would have to say the corn dollies were here first.

I think Voodoo was started first.

voodoo was first...

I have to agree from what I have read on the history of both that Voodoo was first.

Voodoo?

what is voodoo and corn dollies?

Voodoo

While i'll forego the lenghty explination of the difference of the two. (Others have already done so) I will add that both the spiritual practice of Voodou does involve a lot of image magicks (which the use of corn dollies is but one example)

comin from the voo i says the corn dolliz was first voodoo is old as the hills now but corn dolliz is ancient

Corn dolls had to come first, i mean someone would rather go out and get corn from the earth than to use fabric...

here is something i found involving voodoo dolls...
Voodoo doll

Corn dolls probably came first, I would think that they would use natural means before thinking to use material. If they originated in different places, it was probably around the same time.

corn dollies are a very early European tradition.

They are not always in the form of a person - there are many forms, and the purpose is entirely different from voodoo. It is an offering to the Goddess to ensure a successful harvest in the coming year. traditionally, the last sheaf of corn to be harvested would be plaited to make a figure, or a cornucopia, or a crescent, which is hung up for good luck - originally hung over the doorway of the granary.

these can now be seen hanging in windows, shop doorways, almost anywhere in villages. it has become a popular folk art / craft, and it is easy to find books or websites showing how to make them. i find it easiest to practice first with plastic drinking straws.

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please check your spelling grandmaster

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im in between maybe something could of been used befor corn....

Voodoo

From what I know of this, which is not much, I would say they were around the same time.

From what I've heard Voodoo is a lot older but I don't know much on either subject

I wouldhave to believe that Corn dollies did come first as the fact they are a natural form and wee used by the Native medicine Men and such in Their magic and spiritual rituals Vood coming much later then created the Voodoo dolls