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some common traits that i think give to the movies and books on vampires
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cryingmoon
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this is a small bit of information that i have found about the folk lore of vampires that i belive has helped creat the book and movie legends what is every ones opion? taken again from
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"Some common traits of vampires in folklore
It is difficult to make a single description of the folkloric vampire, because its properties vary widely between different cultures. It tends to share many features with evil spirits in general.

The appearance of the European folkloric vampire contained mostly features by which one was supposed to tell a vampiric corpse from a normal one, when the grave of a suspected vampire was opened. The vampire has a "healthy" appearance and ruddy skin, he is often plump, his nails and hair have grown and, above all, he is not in the least decomposed. The creature's appearance outside of its grave may be more or less different from that of a "normal" human body, depending on the region that the legend orginates from.
The most common ways to destroy the vampire are driving a wooden stake through the heart, decapitation, and incinerating the body completely. Ways to prevent a suspected vampire from rising from the grave in the first place include burying it upside-down, severing the tendons at the knees, or placing poppy seeds on the ground at the gravesite of a presumed vampire in order to keep the vampire occupied all night counting. Chinese narratives about vampire-like beings also state that if one comes across a sack of rice, he will have to count all of the grains. There are similar myths recorded on the Indian Subcontinent. South American tales of witches and other sorts of evil or mischievous spirits or beings have a similar aspect to it.[27]
Apotropaics, i.e. objects intended to inhibit or ward off vampires (as well as other evil supernatural creatures), include garlic, sunlight, a branch of wild rose, the hawthorn plant, and all things sacred (e.g., holy water, a crucifix, a rosary). In similar stories of other regions, other plants and objects of holy or mystical properties sometimes function as apotropaics. In Eastern legends, vampiric creatures are often warded by holy devices such as Shintō seals.[23] Aloe vera plant hung backwards behind the door or near it has the same function in South American superstition.[27] Holy places such as churches may also be inaccessible for vampires.
Vampires are sometimes considered to be shape-shifters not limited to the common bat stereotype depicted in cartoons and movies. Rather, they are said to morph into a wide variety of animals such as wolves, rats, moths, spiders, and so on.
Some vampires in European folklore are said to cast no shadow and no reflection, perhaps arising from folklore regarding the vampire's lack of a soul.[23]. However this was not universal as the vrykolakas/tympanios (Greece) did supposedly cast shadows and reflections.
Some traditions hold that a vampire cannot enter a house unless invited, although they only have to be invited once after this they can come and go as they please without further permission.[23"




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16:08:40 Aug 26 2007
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you have to be careful of information you get on wikipedia, its not always reliable or true information, just a suggestion



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Were a vampire to move next door to you how would you know his true nature? By these signs? I think not. No more than you can tell how good a steak is by sticking your head up a cow's ass. In Braveheart, Wallace recites the traits he is supposed to have... ten feet tall, lightening firing our of his arse... vampires clearly have made a deep impression on the human psyche but isn't their power the not knowing? Like all fear? Desperation breeds a thirst of its own for wisdom (consider these forums that hold up lazy assed "cut/paste" wisdom from the web as dogma)... and the fearful make gods of the seemingly wise - fashioning new messiahs with the modelling clay of their own ignorance...



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Well, from reading everything in the first post, they seem to bring up the word "folklore" quite a few times.

So, folklore seems to be the key word there.



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21:12:52 Aug 26 2007
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as is always pointed out there are so many myths and different descriptions of vampires that it is hard to pinpoint every aspect of them



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First of all I agree that you have to be careful with information that you get from wikipedia, although as far as I know what's said in the article about vampire myths is true and used in both books and movies. So yes, I'd say those are very common traits... What else is there to discuss about it?



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I do not know from what I see I have to agree with what most of you have said. And though it is said to be folklore it can in some cases with dyslexia be overlooked that it says folklore.

And yes I also agree with adora.



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I think that the article is basically true when it comes to the vampire myth, and yes thoes traits did help books and movies to be what they are...



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yeah wikipedia information can be changed by like almost anyone, i suggest you look for actual vampire sites, maybe ones with an ".org" ending...if there are some.



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CryingMist
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17:59:18 Sep 25 2007
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information spread and place on the net can be relevant or irrelelvant, we all have opinion and our own source as of what is a vampire and what is not...Personnaly I search alot before making an opnion on waht is oemthingand what is not, also I suually try to get in contact witht he real deal...in this case a vampire, and I am one , and know severals so...I guess I got all the info I need



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I would find 'vampire sites' to be far more biased as a source of information in many cases and ".org" doens't mean that it's definitive, accurate or even truthful. Take for example: www.fvza.org which is a site purporting to be a federal agency that hunts vampires and zombies.

As to "lazy assed "cut/paste" wisdom from the web as dogma"...I do find that some think this amounts to genuine research but would hope that it's looked at mostly for it's ability to spark conversation and not as some form of serious fact finding skills. I'm only upset by 'copy/paste' when it's not credited.

I think we can all read wikipedia and decide on it's mythological accuracy and yes...this one is pretty well vetted by now but also fairly abridged and merely grazing over multiple folklore without going too in depth on any particular one.



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Carvall
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19:45:05 Sep 25 2007
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I'm geting bored of saying I agree with Felix lol

But......I do lol



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Kryptick
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21:02:11 Sep 25 2007
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I saw a lot of this on a documentary on the history channel.
It's interesting though.
The folkloric vampire is said to be in their coffin with no decomposition and blood in the mouth...
But that's provable by morticians, the insides decay faster than the outside, and if no embalming is done then the blood will come out through openings in the body, primarily the mouth...



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Lilithprincess
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15:35:05 Sep 28 2007
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people just write stuff on wiki and answers, so how do you know it's the right thing?



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15:46:56 Sep 28 2007
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yeah wikki is not a viable source



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UrielArnauld
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00:15:33 Sep 29 2007
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Whether or not this article is accurate I'm sure books and movies get alot of thier ideas from folklore



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Kryptick
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00:17:52 Sep 29 2007
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It's just an idea to ponder, I believe. If you really wanna check the facts google for reliable sources, they'll probably say the same thing.



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19:58:15 Oct 19 2007
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wikipedia something leads you in the wrong direction



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Myths and folklore lay the foundation. From there, twists and turns abound and the vampire evolves --- powers, sexuality, vulnerabilities. This keeps it interesting.

Re. wikipedia. A new word is born and based on usuage can be included in the dictionary. Similarly, isn't it interesting that Wikipedia so frequently comes up first in a google search? If this is related to the number of hits, and if people are relying on this information and disseminating it, will what it relays become truth?



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Callia
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17:45:29 Oct 20 2007
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I have always found Wikipedia to not be a very reliable source as well so when doing my own research i tend to look up my information on many different varrying websites including going also to the real source or contacting a Elder in My Own Home who is also a Vampire like myself to gather the knowledge base i need



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RedGoddess
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I generally reference from as many sources as posible Wikipedia is often not the best place to find correct information so do check out various sources



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It is interesting to watch the different aspects from folklore to the stylish literarture from XVII century.
There are many aspects to discuss here.



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