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i know from the other post on this subject are doubles most often then not of a person that is living. and that they are most often there for evil intents. but what i want to know is are they made by a dark spell or are they just here and we have to stumble across them to see them.




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can you please explain in more detail please



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what i want to know is are doppelgangers made with the help of black magic or do they just appear. does that help. or could u tell me in what way dont u understand and then i might be able to help.



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i needed you to reword the question and explaing it in detail in a lower context because im not understanding it



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i want to know if doppelgangers are made using black magic or do they appear out of a tragic event such as a sudden death or something of that nature. is this better.



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I believe dopplegangers happen in a random fashion, that they are not created by Dark Magic.



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I have just copied this from Wikipedia it is just a small part of the article may I suggest you check this out. Is very informative for sure!.

Doppelgänger
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A doppelgänger (pronunciation (help·info)) or fetch is the ghostly double of a living person, a sinister form of bilocation.

In the vernacular, "Doppelgänger" has come to refer (as in German) to any double or look-alike of a person—most commonly an "evil twin". The literal translation of the German word is "doublewalker", meaning someone who is acting (e.g. walking) the same way as another person. The word is also used to describe the sensation of having glimpsed oneself in peripheral vision, in a position where there is no chance that it could have been a reflection. They are generally regarded as harbingers of bad luck. In some traditions, a doppelgänger seen by a person's friends or relatives portends illness or danger, while seeing one's own doppelgänger is an omen of death. In Norse mythology, a vardøger is a ghostly double who precedes a living person and is seen performing their actions in advance.



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OK, not to sound unintelligent, but is it something similar to the concept that everyone has a twin in the world, and that it is usually a yin-yang situation?



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I have heard of this but havent experienced it myself.... pleanty of people saying they saw me in places I wasn't... darn clones.



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i think the that info i have on this topic may be wrong. i thought that when a doppelganger was seen it was a product of black magic. but i may be wrong. but this is something that has my mind peaked.



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Their is no such this Doppelgangers ,Just like there is no such things as Fairys,Dragons,Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.Its all in your imagination.



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But to some people these kinds of things DO exist. And there is no explaining to them why or why not - right or wrong. We are all like that. We believe what we believe.



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Doppelganger is a German term for a double of yourself, you see most of the time out of the corner of your eye. It's supposed to be a warning of death or tragedy.



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OH isn't that special!! I don't want to know that!! LOL I always see things but then people say that's because I am "gifted". riiiiiiiiiiight.



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My whole life i mean this goes back to imaginary friends and she was mine and she has never left me she is very real to me looks acts and dresses like me but her voice is different she is the one that makes me strong stare fear in the face i can physicallly feal her pulling me over a fence or holding my hand to make me run faster also she is aggresive towards me pulls my hair and cuts me gives me homicidal thoughts she also smokes and drinks i guess she my evil side if i try to ignore her well ive been known to
"FALL" down stairs and yes we have arguments and no im not nuts many shrinks and councelors as well as coven masters and other such people assure me i am of sound mind summer is just always with me like it or not she is me and i am her yet seperate some drs have said i created her as a child as a defense mechanism and it just grew into more think like conjoined twins she is definatly the strong one sachamoon



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That is very interesting as I would think that you would need a doctor's help too, but I know people who had childhood invisble friends and still talk about them to this day. I wonder if they still "see" them? Mind you I am older than most here....... so my friends are older too.... late 40's...... so that would be a really long time for someone to have a invisble friend.



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here is the kicker to what u just said. there is some times that when a child has a invisible friend it could be his or her spirit guide or it could mean that this child has a six sense that. i know when i was a child that my mother said i had one too but i told her the name of this person and we look him up and found him to be a civil war solider and i am quite sane. i just wish that i could remember his name. oh well. but yes i believe that these things could be quite real.



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well i know people have said they haveseen me in reas that i know i have never been....and my big sis outin cali saw me on a target add....i know i never went to work modeling....anyway i beleive in that shit.....and i beleive in dragons and the sidhe....i know a few dragons...wait i am one of them, see you all in the astral relms



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Black magic is the conjuring up of a preternatural force intended for an evil purpose whereas a doppleganger is a ghostly vision of ones self that usually is seen as a harbinger of death. I have never heard of the two being related.



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My own personal theory is that doppelgangers are just the image of you when one dimension intersects with another, thus creating two of you on one plane at the same time. I don't think dark magic is involved at all. But that is just my theory.



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To me a doppelganger is the complete opposite of you since the whole universe keeps a balance. I've never seen an evil twin of myself but maybe on another world or universe there may be.



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I think they are something that happens naturally but can be caused by magic whether white or black..... I think it would be a grey area when it comes to the magic portion....



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Sorry - don't believe they are made from a spell. Their just happen to be so many characteristics out there before its going to be duplicated! Their are probably 10 people who look like me out there somewher but it surely doesn't mean they are the exact opposite of me or that they are anything like me either. we just happen to look the same.



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I believe DoppelGanger are real, and they are aliens, those little grey ones with out no personality, and they easily shapeshift in to one of the existing persons, since they have a way to extract and copy the genetical material, wich they after use to confuse.



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Dopplegangers to me are purely myth, for the idea of twins of everyone out there believe saw him meeet him. blew me away.



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Okay, dopplegangers. I do have personal experience with these beings. My brother in particular has a seperate shadow being that would qualify as a doppleganger, and neither one (my brother or his shadow) are evil....dark, yes; evil, no. In his case it was neither puposeful dark magik or an accident, he created it himself (or learned to use it once it was created, one or the other) as a way to simply be in 2 places at once.
Specifically, he was in another town about 60 miles away when one night, I looked up in a mirror and saw him standing in the hallway behind me. I looked back and saw him standing there, only he was more of a solid shadow than a person. He looked at me, then walked into his room. A few minutes later, his radio turned on by itself. He was simply keeping an eye on his little brother.
So dopplegangers aren't always evil, and indeed can be used by the person the emulate, as they are usually inexpicably tied to the said person.
Now as far as I understand, they can be created using magik (usually of a dark nature, but not always so) and they can simply be naturally occuring for some unknown reason. Maybe if you explained why you were interested in this I could explain a little more in detail.



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i am wondering. because i have this odd feeling every time that i am alone. like i feel that there is some one there but there is not. that and it has this feeling like he knows me more then like a friend almost as if he is me. sort of thing. that is why i am wondering.



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"Doppelganger" is German for "double walker" - a shadow self that is thought to accompany every person. Traditionally, it is said that only the owner of the doppelganger can see this phantom self, and that it can be a harbinger of death. Occasionally, however, a doppelganger can be seen by a person's friends or family, resulting in quite a bit of confusion.
In instances of bilocation, a person can either spontaneously or willingly project his or her double, known as a "wraith," to a remote location. This double is indistinguishable from the real person and can interact with others just as the real person would.



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Not nessessarily a doppelganger, but we all have a twin in one form or another, as we live in one part of the world, the twin would live in the other part. Across the seas usually.

I ran into someone who had a picture of their fiancee who looked exactly like me. He was an aries though, not nessessarily evil, but he was described as having an attitude.

As for the shadow self, everyone has one of these as well. But most of us are not distinctly aware of them. You may find yourself aware, if pardon the expression, you have a sort of regression of your previous life.

Even though your past life is you, does not mean you would not be able to follow yourself, or make yourself known etherealically into the physical. The soul following the individual as it were.



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No I don't believe they are made by black magic. Our spirits, in their most natural form are able to be two places at once.



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It is a useful tool during many rituals, but only when in the magic circle. The shadow self is truely one's soul.



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I think this is one of those either you have it or you don't kind of things. Lol


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Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Watch it and their agenda is all too transparent. Sneaky underhanded bastards. lol



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i believe this is a random thing and not done by black magic



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could one be made with black magic. or is that something that just has to happen.



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If you go to a translator and put in the word Doppelgänger using the German to English translation setting the word means Double. :) We have all seen or had friends who have said they swore they saw us or a close twin. I have seen this at times, the only difference is the supposed clone/twin was actually alive not dead or a ghost. lol



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"Doppelgänger
by Micha F. Lindemans

The frightful image seen at the window, or staring back from the mirror, could be your own--a double, or doppelgänger (from the German for "double goer"), the sight of which could foretell your own imminent demise. Sometimes described as the soul embodied, sometimes an astral projection or aura, the double most often presented itself as a warning.

Queen Elizabeth I reportedly saw a vision lying on her deathbed, pale and still, soon before she died. Goethe and Shelley also claimed to have seen their doubles, and when Catherine the Great of Russia saw her own coming toward her, she took no chances and ordered her soldiers to shoot at it. Witches, it was long accepted, could project their own doubles and set them loose to do mischief far and wide. As a result, many a women was hanged as a witch even though it could be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she was somewhere else entirely when the barn burned down, the cow died or whatever else had happened that she was now charged with having done. On other occasions, a double -- of someone else - -could be called forth or seen.

One old Halloween custom has it that if a young girl lights two candles before a mirror, while eating an apple, she will see in the mirror the spectral image of her future husband, peering back at her as if from over her shoulder. If she is brave enough to venture out to a graveyard, and walk all the way around it twelve times, she will meet up with the double itself.
According to another old belief, anyone who wants to know who will pass away in the coming year has only to stand vigil near the church door on April 24, the eve of the feast day of St. Mark. At midnight, the airy doubles of all who will die file in a solemn processional into the church, if the watcher is unlucky enough to see his own image there, he knows his own time is not far off.

To this day, the fear of the double is observed, if unknowingly, in the custom of covering all the mirrors in a house where a death has just occurred. The double of anyone passing the glass, it was once thought, could be projected into the mirror and carried off by the deceased to the afterworld."

Encylopedia Mythica...:)



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My own personal thoughts:

A doppleganger is one of four things to me.
1. A ghostly double created to bring misfortune if met.

2. A living copy of yourself with strictly evil intent.

3. A homunculus made after your image.

and 4. An image of your personal fear of yourself or paranoia of yourself taking real form.

I think their purpose is to generally to signify your darker self or test your true self.



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Doppelgangers are agents of chaos; their purpose is to spread discord.
All hail Discordia.



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Everything has a purpose to its existance.
Things dont just happen



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I really don't have an opinion of how they are made or were the hail from. I believe that they are used for bad things such as messing up your life and take everything that is good away from you and possible death.



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The DoppelGanger sure sounds creepy, but a person such as I am, will not have fear before it, and will do the most opossite thing, if ever one met, I will make sure, to grab my DoppelGanger fast and tight, giving him a french kiss delight, and than I believe it will be the DoppelGanger running back in fear.



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LMAO!!! I like the way you think! Grab em, shock em and drive em away fast. Good thinking there. Sorry hadda respond to that one lol



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I dont believe they are created by dark magic, some are good. guess it the luck of the draw.



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I think dopplegangers dont even need to look like another person. I have been mistaken for someone about 100 times and i dont even look like the guy. I have people come up to me and say, why were you doing this here. And would have been somewhere else completly. Coincidence?



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i dont think they are made by black magic, i think that it is just something that happens, a rift in time per say that casts your image in another place in time. but to someone else it may be something altogether different.



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I'm not entirely sure if this would count but i once saw a dark shadow pass through an outer door of a house in which some bad things have happened from.



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