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With my shamanic work and astral temple building and life long succubus events…. I believe in other worlds and I believe them to be dimensions.
With the shamanic your spirit form/ astral form … feels these intelligent beings trying to communicate….. some shamanic priest actually have a wife and family on the other side and often leave there loved ones this side….. so as to spend more that side…. With true soul mates……

Would you?

No. If haven't left my wife and family by now I never will.

I say this lavisbre this if we had another dimension what makes it to where we can not access it or do we have to die to go to the next dimension?

Well that would be down to energy, when you die you judge yourself in a second your life flashes, that is your judgment, depending on how you feel about your actions you charge your energy and then it becomes a key to the dimension you go too.
Just as we found in a experiment to transport like star trek does they tried a photon and it moved to the next chamber … but so did several others… they noticed them phasing in and out of reality….
The experiment stretched one so as to tell it was the one there using and it totally disappeared and the realized photons have a 0.2 phase and anything like a .3 or more or less disappeared and could not be in our dimension. Now they have a super cooled lazar attempting to crack the dimensions.. they also have quantum computers and some historical testing of ancient Japan armor paint in super magnetic filed and minus Kelvin actually lost a dimension……

I see so could you hazard a guess at what dimension you would go to.

Well no …. But you will be with others like yourself…

I see what you mean sorry if I am the only one posting lavisbre.

Thank you for this insight & may we continue to develop in this deminsion or the next.

There are more than the 3 dimensions that we reside in.

The thing with other dimensions is that, and this is totally hypothetical, but what if we passed through a dimension that was never supposed to exist. (I know this is also a story and all that, but it still gets you thinking.) I mean, in that dimension, we could see the truth about everything. Know everything, and that could trigger a reaction could on one hand kill us, or on the other make people mad with power.

i dont think i could handle any other dimensions than what i am in right now

I feel this is simular to the time travel there are dimensions and different levels to the Universe yet why would we want to tamper with them or leave one to be in another. I feel it is hard enough to live and love and work in 1 much less try to do another one.

yet when you die I do believe we pass on to another dimension as a higher plane and more complex than this one and well I do not wish to go there till it is my time.

I feel we are in each dimension for a reason and will remain until our journey is complete, then that is when we die /pass on to another dimension just my thoughts on how I look at it .

Why is that meska?

Too bad nobody comes forward with any evidence of these life long succubi relations.

No pictures in the wallet of these 'alternate' familymembers? Hm?

LaVey and many others talk about other dimensions .. and yes I would want to be a part of them ..

On the contrary Ctyler, it is well documented past your local wikapeidia lol

Succubus are noted through time and are dream walkers.
Study shamanic laws and accounts and find the truths.
You seem to lack in such riches with you limited comment?

Oh no, I was referring to PHYSICAL evidence. Witnesses on Ayahuasca or peyote are not considered reliable.

And that my dear friend is where you fail not having followed shamanic paths.
Why do we all have the same visions even when were separated from civilizations like aboriounal shaman yet the pictures and beings and wisdom the same?

I also astral ascend… this phenomena if not stimulated by plants, very real to me
to prove to you i do not need. ;-)

Getting back to the original question I guess it would depend on if I had a partner and family here.

If I did then no, if not I may well do....deceit is the same in any dimension I guess.

This is the first time I have heard of this possibility.

I confess to being sceptical, but I don't think you mind that lavisbre.

I think I will take a look at your journal, I would like to hear more.

No all opinions are valid, some one said there just like assholes we all have one and some stink lol. I just like them to have more than stone throwing abilities and based on knowledge rather than prove it lol

I'm sorry if I frightened you by shaking some pillar you base your life on, but it just puzzles me when people see and interact with people that nobody else can see.
Some might see that as some sort of illness that could be harmful.

Sorry you don’t believe based on your limited knowledge.
I as others will tell you firmly believe and visit this other worldly place.
As with all faiths and beliefs they don’t have science backing …yet.
Doesn’t mean they wont catch up one day… till then have a great day ;-)

There might be some basis in fact here not for time travel even Einstein said that it would be impossible to travel through time.

Quantum physics talks about alter net realities called bi-localities here they are used to teach people to remote view other location as for bring back the pics of the family in the alternate universe think it be kind of hard since we truly have no physical contact with these.

This theory has been going on as long as man has been thinking about other places to travel to.

I agree people with some sort of illness could be harmful… shall we start with those that talk to god and work our way down?
Lol
Thanks for giving me a good laugh on the way to work …

Why is it always assumed that being from planet or another dimension will be intelligent. That is a human concept. Different dimension in particular have no grounds for intellegence. One could say that in order to communicate through dimensions would take intellegence, but thats not entirely true. Not in respect to other dimensions. Perhaps it is easier to communicate than we know if we had had more dimensions. NEwho...what was the question?

Oh, ok, I see. Well...depends on the "love" i had for either one. I dont think I could leave my girl behind, even for a love on the other side, merely because I know this one so much better. If you found the most amazing person, but had no knowledge of who they are, and they asked you to leave your wife and kids, would you? just because they are more beautiful or more popular or more this or that? I wouldn't. I love my girl too much. now, if I knew the person or persons of the other side really well and had to make a choice, I would be tempted, if only to see the other dimensions. Otherwise, I would not do it.

Something comes to mind about a story concerning a spider and a fly when I read the entries here.

Come into my parlor...

I will admit this is one interesting post lavisbre good job on coming up with it.

This is a very good post and I have to say No I could not leave the ones I know that I love and that love me for any reason unless it was to save their lives or something to that effect ..

I would probably leave this dimension if I could take my loved ones with me. If I could, I'd go exploring all of the different realms (I'm getting tired of typing the word dimension.)

The energy required to shift ...the possibility of spreading ones self between to planes...
perhaps spliting the consciousness...
time distortion...
check your baggage and travel at your own risk.

well If we could take the ones we love with us I also would consider going to another plane that is more serene LOL

What do you mean serene darkladydahila?

I believe in different dimensions (planes.) I do believe that we go to them more often than we realize. Some people have no memories, while others have encountered and remember other planes from during astral projection and such. I cannot say if I would leave this dimension or not to be with someone.

I don't believe in such a thing BUT if I did and the other dimension my soul mate as you said actually lived there then yes I would...

Well that is good.

so is OBE considered to be an astral projection..Bare with me I am new to this and came here to learn. If OBE is a form of astral projection is it possible to communicate with another ..perhaps someone you love..or someone close to you that you know has that kind of connection to you.. If that is true how do you go about in doing so.

I would have to say that I would not leave my loved ones for those in another dimension. It stands to reason that if I have loved ones in another dimension, then there is also a me in that dimension.

Hi Khornesone
The issues with other world relations is there not in this world.
You cant go over only in astral form

There are certainly different dimensons..they are not so much tangible now to many,but I have confidence that more will be revealed as time goes on as far as documentation and everything...Hopefully in my lifetime.

How about another way of looking at it, ie. Soulshroude's point of view (Chuckles)...

Here we go with the Spiritual Alchemy B.S. once more kids!

Anywho, on to one way of looking at things. For those of whom think other dimensions do not exist, take a look into a mirror, an alternate reality perhaps? Or is this a reverse dimension you are looking in? Since there are an unknown series of dimensions, as well as doorways to these in the most unlikeliest of places, then it would go to show that the world would have dozens of these within one location.

Whewww, that being said, it is time for the second half of this...

As I had mentioned before, Spiritual Alchemy is always connected to anything ethereal...This being yourself as the conduit to gain entrance through astral traveling dimensions, since the ethereal is another dimension in its own. Anywho, even though an individual has family here...On earth, this dimension, does not nessessaril mean that they would need to be abandoned to be with the other family from another dimension, ie...Lav's first post.

What I have learned and experianced through my years of study...A good 20 years and going, is the fact in my mind that beyond a shadow of a doubt...To myself only, as other eyes only witness it for themselves if they so accept the fact...That the "soulmate" aspect of Spiritual Alchemy gives us the notion about whether or not the soul mate of one individual is here...On earth...Or Either refuses to be or has yet to be "re-instituted into the grand scheme of things ie. Born, then this would be the case of the Shaman astral traveling to visit his/her loved one(s).

Long story short, many of us do have this opportunity as well as have a certain someone(s) on the other side that we visit either (In Lav's case), or sometimes.

Just remember, nothing is impossible, only improbable. Never underestimate the power of the Universe. Hell, even I astral travel...Evertime I sleep, just to visit certain levels of "transmutation" as I like to call it.

Very well put SS.As awlays.

i would

I am sure it would be of great importance to gain a full controlled access to a dimensional travel. There is so much to learn in the differences wich Universe has to offer.

I guess it would depend on the situation. If I was unhappy with my life in this world then yes I might be driven to find happiness in another dimension. Happiness I belive is the key, if the sensation was stronger while connecting with the 'Other dimension' there might be a willingness to proceed further.

Now let's take it from another angle. If i could bring my loved ones from this world to another, then that would be a imediate yes. And they would have to have Internet so I could get on the rave....LOL

well said Soulshroude

until science catches up with astral astronauts like ourselves… people will still sit n scratch there heads saying were talking in circles lol

No, I have my soul mate in this plain so I would not need too.

Interesting thought tho..

If I or my soul mate past on.. then yes.. but as of right now i really do not need to worry about it.. But completely open to the idea

Early in this thread I said 'never'. I take it back. Probably not would be my answer. The more knowledge I gain the more my reality changes.

If I may though soulshroude yes we have many dmensions I know this and will state and back it up if I must.

But when we talk about dimensions on here are we talking about a time dimension or mathmatical that is where I get confused.

Any way you or lavisbre could help clearify that????

well it's out for debate on what a dimension is we visit other worldly place by shamanic ways or astral.....

i was reading about the places having for some who community's wifes and kids and the shaman trying to live there more and give up there life on this plane of living.



it is impossible for our earth body to go through and the astral body is a thought form.... thus why i know thought form can be made here.

we here echoes like a radio from those astral worlds and sense there forms as well ... just my angle on what i feel and attempt to enplane.... like trying to tell some one about flying in a plane if they never had with the feelings you have and perceptions of what you find

I astral project although I don't always remember it all and I don't believe anything could make me leave my kids right now. They are both young and need me here- I am all they have.

As for the comment about the dimensions and photon lazars - where did you learn about this? It is very interesting and I would love to read about it.

There's no way I'd leave the one person that I love as for something like that.

but you havent been there to the other side you havent got a lover over there or a family you speak with ... some of us do....

lav - But what if you have a love and a family in the current dimension?

having both i would say what ever you select is good.....

I believe in multiple dimensions as well as multiple universes (multiverse). I am a frequent practiser of astral projection, I have my family there as well as in material form.

However, my astral family are actually connected to my material family in many ways. It is uncanny but it's also very comforting.

One family is enough for me.

Lavisbre, are you saying that your body would remain in this dimension? Does your body then die or does it live on?

as far as i know i die rot n make good stuff for rose to grow lol
if i dont die then my desire for love eternal will keep me half alive and my mind form will seek her and some how i will keep my body half alive...

for my soul mate...I would do anything

I think we all exist as energy as well as the human form and can choose to leave it for a while and return or not return depending on your choice. I don't believe it is just a choice we make when we die.

Are you confusing alternate worlds with another dimension? We have height, width, depth as 3 dimensions - a fourth or other dimension could be hard for us to perceive or grasp.

Alternate worlds would be perhaps one would have had Lincoln survive; perhaps John F. Kennedy never became president; elephants never existed...... etc. In these alternate worlds/universes, you could have a twin.

I agree with NightShadde...for my true love and soul mate, nothing could stop me.

Is it possible that it depends on the persons needs? For example.. I am the type of person that needs the physical touch of my loved ones.. but if another person where to be more about the intellectual bond, would it make it easier for them to have that kind of bond with another dimension?

Is it possible that it depends on the persons needs? For example.. I am the type of person that needs the physical touch of my loved ones.. but if another person where to be more about the intellectual bond, would it make it easier for them to have that kind of bond with another dimension?

sorry for the double post.. comp glitch

How do you know this is NOT the other dimension that we are living?

i could never leave my kids behind. i would never be happy without them.

Other dimensions isnt these like the sci fi movie about time travel.

As much fun as it would be to jump back and forth and have 2, I think I would stay with whoever my true love was regardless of the dimension I was in. Isn't love the most important thing, after all?

70z28man how do you no there are three dimentions ?

If I may interced the three dimensions are mind body and spirit if I am correct.

Depending on how one lives there lives will decide which one they go to.

For instance lavisbre is spiritual so I would say he would got to the spirit one.

While soulshroude is more of the mind so he would be placed in that.

Me I could not say but if I had to hazard a guess I would say all three because I use my mind or else I could not put these posts.

Spirit because I have the soiritual guideance to put such a post with full understanding.

And body because I am fully aware and mindful of what the flesh is capable of so I am that.

I believe everybody has there own special one or all three but that is up to the person on which one they decide to go to.

not sure

If I may interced the three dimensions are mind body and spirit if I am correct.

Depending on how one lives there lives will decide which one they go to.

For instance lavisbre is spiritual so I would say he would got to the spirit one.

While soulshroude is more of the mind so he would be placed in that.

Me I could not say but if I had to hazard a guess I would say all three because I use my mind or else I could not put these posts.

Spirit because I have the soiritual guideance to put such a post with full understanding.

And body because I am fully aware and mindful of what the flesh is capable of so I am that.

I believe everybody has there own special one or all three but that is up to the person on which one they decide to go to.