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Im wondering what this energy is I feed on, I don’t care for neg or positive labels I think it’s energy no matter what, the positive n negative aspect goes along with those who think magic is blank n white.
Im a believer magic is neutral and so is energy, well what I drain on is for sure.

So im asking not about negative or positive as I believe that is emotional feeding and not vampirisms. Tell me why you think




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Lets debate on energy feeding, is it energy or is it emotions I think there very different.



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Thats a hard one.

Emotions are feelings that leads to the creation of energy. Be it good or bad. Like a catalyst if you like.

Or at least thats my thoughts on the issue.



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There’s no right or wrong answer… I just feel emotions are just emotions not what I drain, I don’t think when those who drain emotionally are draining emotions but energy flavored if you will



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I can agree with the earlier post...

The good and bad emotions are what create the energies that could/would be fed off of.

The stronger the emotion, the more energy generated.

Energy is not good or bad, but rather the source of the energy and the use of that energy is what is dubbed as good or bad.



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I think what thedog was trying to say is that it's where the energy comes from--the emotion that creates the energy--that is seen as "good" or "bad". We traditionally see hate as "bad" and happiness as "good", but they both create energy. The energy itself is just energy--it's where it came from that defines it, to some people, as "good" or "bad". It might not matter how you use it or what you use it for--to those people, what determines if it's "good" or "bad" is how it was generated.

By the same token, some people don't consider where the energy comes from at all when they determine if the energy is "good" or "bad"--they just look at how it's being used, what you're doing with it. Even if the energy came from a "bad" emotion such as hate or anger, are you using it for "good" purposes? For example, are you using your hatred for rapists and child molesters to work for legal protection and advocacy for their victims, or are you forming a vigilante-type organization that goes out and kills the child molesters rather than bringing them to trial? To those people, the former would be a "good" application of energy, and the latter would be a "bad" use of that energy.

(Feel free to correct me if I missed your point, thedog... I'm trying to explain it accurately for the previous poster.)



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I halfway agree about the emotions becoming the bodies energies. Halfway, for the fact that emotions are one form of energy.

As to these emotions becoming energy, emotions already are energy, there is no becoming of something that is already there.

Energy is energy, as we are a Universal conduit for all energies, living magnets if you will, it does not consist of positive or negative, these are conditioned perceptions we have learned to acknowledge throughout our lives.

One individuals fun is anothers hell, so to speak.



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I agree with Soulshroude, emotions are but a form of energy.

Energy is neither positive nor negative, it simply is. Unless you're talking about electricity which is a type of energy but that again is a different issue altogether... but emotions by themselves are not positive or negative. It is the use to which they are put, or the conceptions that you hold around them that provides the positivity/negativity.



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I agree that magic/energy is neutral in its meaning, but our own intent gives it a certain positive/negative meaning when used with certain motive.

I think that in any case one feeds on energy whether that energy has some cartain meaning/vibration expressed with it, or not, being just pure energy with out any emotional, or any other vibrational meaning, it is always energy. The difference is in feeding from that "unclean" type of energie with certain vibraton expressed in it already, and with that inhibit those same ones for some certain period of time.

The energy is the engine of life it self, the expression of the negative or positive are its secondary meanings. Energy is skillfuly attaching the ego/personality expression on its self, as its own primary function in the material universe as it is forming the duality of objects and beings.


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I don't think there is much to be added to what has been written already.

All kinds of thoughts leading to all kinds of emotions are in and of themselves energy.



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I think everyone feeds off of energy in some form which is what keeps us going in a way. Often I find myself sitting and feeding off the energies of plants. That is my way of rejuvenating myself. My form of self meditation and helps me to center myself. Every creature needs to feed off of something in order to get themselves going. The Celestine Prophecy by James Redfield explains this kind of thing much better than I can.



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I agree that there really is no positive or negative energy...But the amount of energy and how it is used seems to be what affects people.

Having too much energy channeled in inappropriate ways can make a flighty mind, difficulty focusing, loud obnoxious behavior - such as overly loud laughter and excitement- all seem to be signs that energy is not being distributed appropriately.

I think it can exhaust the people around you as well if you're that way, because your behavior is so manic, people don't know how to respond and become stressed, hence why some say they feel "drained" around certain people.

I think it can work the same in the other direction too, not enough energy applied to the correct places can leave someone down, sluggish, uncreative and apathetic.

So, in essence, I don't think it's what kind of energy you get, but what you do with it.



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If you do not understand this thread- do not post.

I differ in my thoughts, while do think you can change the energy and how it is - or + I think that to change it often requires more energy than you originally had.

Typically I view energy as being neg or pos with the intent of a few things: how it was taken (neg/pos), what it was in the originator (neg/pos) and what it is going to be used for. These can all be the same or all be different- because some people do have the ability to neutralize energy as well.

I think overall most energy used is simply part of the cycle of life energy that we all use and exchange everyday. When we allow our emotions to rule us, is when the truly negative takes hold.



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So what you are saying then Sahahria, is much like that of a magnet for better analogy, reversing the polarity for what the users intent is?

How about that of the individual as a battery using said energy as either polarities of a magnet? The positive vs negative flow would need to be regulated.

Much like an energizer bunny as you have stated, being as to require more energy then originally having...Thus the conduit or battery in a sense, builds said energy from the polarities of the magnet.

Mayhaps I am thinking to much into the concept, but it is making sense in my mind. Still, when one does regulate where said energies come from or go, is this not the intent of the psi or energy vampire to begin with?

Yeah, this post makes sense to my mine, whether or not words can be found to express how I feel on the matter is a differant story.



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They are very different. Emotions is how you feel and you get a different feel from them. Energy is very different though I believe it is just sortof like your motivation to do things your body wanting to work or not.



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"The stronger the emotion, the more energy generated."
The dog calle dit right, from al I know ..
and tht's more than some.
I don't call it draining, or feeding.. just useage .. acquisition, of something that can lead to something else greater.



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When feeding do you take more from arguments you cause ? maybe lust? Who knows is it in the love n caring arms of your loved one



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All kinds of energy can be either good or bad. You just need to know how to use it. This includes bio-electric energy. This is the kind you feed on from other people.



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Emotions are turned into energy. I believe there is a difference between negative and positive energy. This is determined by what emotions the pesrson has at the time



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Some of the posts here use analogies to physical energy, electrical current and magnetism. Energy in the physical sense is a measurement of work being performed or the ability to perform work. If I hold a ball in my hand, the ball has potential energy, the ability to perform work. If I drop the ball, it now has kinetic energy, the performance of work. The energy did go away, it just changed forms. When the ball hits the floor, its energy is changed again, into sound, head, possible displacement of material in the floor (dent).

There isn't really negative or positive energy, just different forms of energy and the distribution of the energy into various objects. The ball may have less potential energy then before, but it doesn't have negative energy. Its energy levels are relative to time and other objects.

The same is true for electrical current. Current is the movement of electrons. It can be measured, but is only negative in relation to a measurement.

If the analogies hold, Universal energy wouldn't be positive or negative, just exist in different states in different amounts.



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If you think about negative feelings or emotions you may get from a place you have to wonder if it really is an emotional tie to the energy.

Society as a whole tends to have negative reactions to things like the dark, cemetaries, snakes, insects,wild animals etc... Is that a learned response, a reaction to energy associated with those items, emotional response or possible even an inherited genetic memory of sorts.

If we think reaction to those types of items are a learned response, then feelings of negative energy may well be your own feelings of the place based on past experiences.

Perhaps certain forms of energy, or energy converted into a certain form or state can trigger that learned response or even a genetic memory to make us have a negative feeling.



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lavisbre, hum i think your right about the middle part of positive and negative but don't you think there has to be a three sided thing going on.. that system I believe makes up choise and the other part i can say emotions can be both non energy as well as energy..



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energy can be neutral. it can just .... be. but i do know that some people give me some really bad vibes.



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i think that if energy is neutral then it wouldn't matter if you're feeding on positive or negative energy, but if you're feeding on emotions then you have to worry about what kind of emotion you feed on.



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I think strong emotions create energy, whether the energy is negative or positive, I think that's where the negative and positive energy labels come from.
I don't feed off energy but I've always said I can sense it, it's more than sensing emotions, it's like the energy that the emotions put off.



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Energy is not positive or negative. It is the person, creature, entity, etc that makes it positive or negative.



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TheDog made an exellent point I can agree to, although my own personal view is this.

Energies and emotions are two different things, and it is here that I agree that emotions comes out as a form of energy.

I belive that they feed on emotions converted to a form of energy positive or negative depending on the situation.

But in theory you could also feed youself from the natural energies (energies in a forrest for instance) and they are neither negative or positive.



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Are you more likely to take energy from people with good vibes or bad vibes?



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i believe that what we feed upon is energy.


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i feed on energy as well as emotion and there is a differecne when you feed on emotion you get a stronger feed from a loved one but with energy it does not matter wether the person is a loved one or not you can get an equally stronge feed.



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ok i think its energy also. but what if your feeding off an emotional person?is it negetive?



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Enegy is fed on our emotions from everything we do in our day to day activites, if we didn't have anything to feeld on then that would be a negative thing.



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i always was told magick is black or white ... but i found out later by trial and error that one must dabble in shades of grey so in my opinon i would say neutral is what a balance of the two are one can not know pleasure with out knowing pain nor know of the light with out the dark so all in all is neutral



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The Marquis de Sade is great for quotes. Here is one of my favorites, although it might not be exact:

Either kill me or take me as I am because I'll be damned if I change



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My findings is that magic is that of balance. There are people that have twisted that balance for greater good and pure evil, but primarily magic is of balance.



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I think emotions play a big role in the energy a body creates, and there is a definite link between the two. Positive energy seems to be a more abundant energy, it flows freely and lights light a beacon in the sky. A happy person just glows. Negative or depressed people tend to have a dark or negative feel to them.



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Both and ether and sometimes all in one.

I dont know if that makes sense to any ones else but it does to me.



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I think it's just energy you feed off of.
Because, it takes energy to do anything, right? Including emotions in my opinion.



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I would think that emotions are there to show what type of energy you have. I believe it is just a if I feel this way I'm going to express what my emotions are unless you hide them very well.



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hummm when im around certain people i leave and they are drained.... im always a perfectly positive person so it must come in neutral???



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theres ups for both positive and negative energy but bad things can happen when feeding of negative energy



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interesting thing


I go very well with both oppinions ... Energy is energy but in order to explain many proceses people conventionaly noted it with + or - ...

10241024 posted about a ball in ones hands.. and it will be impossible to calculate something without "+" or "-"

About the energy that human emotions are making.. I tend to say that it is positive or negative.. or in other word ... it can have positive or negative effects.. I wouln't want to be in a room full of people who are crying but in a room with people who are laughing... and nobody could say that it doesn't matter or it is the same thing( that was an example)




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I know that some people "feed" on another's energy. I cannot explain it, but I know someone who is "draining" to be around. People like this are sometimes labeled "psychic Vampires" as they feed of other peoples energy. I don't know if they have control over it or if it just happens. I do know that they can "tire" you out just being around them.



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I think when something feeds off energy it's not really 'energy' but the emotions -- emotions seem to be stronger than energy insofar as paranormal activity.



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I have always believed that energy is emotions and your emotions are energy. They leave an imprint regardless if it is positive or negative, when you move on from a place. Energy is strong when the emotions are strong. So I can't help but think they are one and the same.



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vamp345 -




I'd have to disagree with you there. There are people who are completely apathetic to everything --

E.g. they underwent severe emotional trauma and can no longer feel or saw something so ... horrible when they were young it effected them in the future.




Or they're brain dead.



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I myself feed off both neg- and pos+ emotions. You may call it what you may, but it never fails to amaze me the least one bit. There are times when it backlashes at me and leaves me feeling so bad that I want to hurt somebody, anybody. Especially when my day was one of the best days of my life.



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Well emotions are the language of the soul, so the energies would take on a particular quality of weather the person be in a good mood or bad mood, somewhat like a change in flavor, for example. Personally I do belive that while yes it is all energy, I personally feel more energised if someone im feeding off of is in a good, or positive mood, however if they are in a bad mood, its not as refreshing. Now this could also be due to the fact that im also empathic, im not 100% certian. However this is my experience with my energy feeding.



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- or + in energy or emotions depend ..from the direction, the impulse...
like joy and sorrow.



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emotions is what i think you feed on not this so called energy



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i believe that energy is energy. it all depends on how the person uses it. An example....A good witch will use power for good. And a bad witch, for bad. Magic isn't black, nor white. But gray. it all depends on the personality of the person.


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id have to go with darkwhisper on that one nicely put in words, feeding energy is a good thing as long as its not much. over dueing it can cause to -



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Thanks. Well all the witchcraft books describe energy to be like that. And it is believable. i think so anyways.


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Interesting for sure



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Well one thing is for sure. Any energy drained from me will make you vomit because I have horrible bouts of depression. I always put up an optimistic front, but inside I am a very pessimistic person. Always half empty. I think that in some cases it depends on how the energy is generated. I think it's possible for negative energy to be turned positive.


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