Has anyone here been awakened or awakened someone? I was wondering if anyone here has awakened anyone and now has fledglings? Is the connection trully as strong as they say?
I have never been awakened or awakened someone else (is that even the right word?) Actually, I have never met anyone outside of the internet that has claimed to have had these experiences either.
I have heard of some people off of the internet, claiming to have "turned" or "awakened" people. I am not sure if it is only a type of "mind control" or just that the people are enfatuated with their "sire".
i came across this suject in the Vampire Codex by Michelle Belanger. they say that someone who has been awakened is someone who is in a higher state of thought and being. and when they awaken someone they bring them to that level and that person becomes their fledgling. and person who did the awakening and the fledgling are supposedly connected and very close.
Awakening does not necessarily equate to siredom but merely the coming of knowledge ascertained through innumerable ways.
I've only met one person outside the internet who claims this but I was only talking to him and there was no proof that it was true.
i've heard the term awakening and what it means but how would a person know that they have been awakened? and i think that the connection between them would be strong but i don't know how that connection would be felt.
well, i'm not sure if a person can feel the knowledge that they now possess. i don't know that that is possible. we don't really feel that, we just use the knowledge and continue our lives.
as to feeling the fledglings, i guess the connection would be very intense and deep. i heard it's like you just know what they're thinking and feelings. it's just another form of knowledge.
and no, i don't think this sort of thing can be proven. you can't prove whether or not you have knowledge. you can show off and prove that you are smart but a knowledgeable person does not necessarily do that.
Having a fledgling is a very serious matter..you create that instant connection with them by bringing them to a similar level of conciousness...It is definitely not something you would want to assist someone with that you dont want to be involved with forever...once that tie is created through an assisted awakening..you cannot sever it...Unfortunately, I think alot of people fail to grasp this concept.
adarklust4blood: so, do you have a fledgling? or know someone who has one?
I have meet may a people on the net who claim such a power, yet never have i meet a person face to face claiming such "powers"
I don't know if you can feel it but I am sure that if you are passing knowledge that way it would be something the person is at least slightly aware of and it would create a strong connection sharing a part of yourself with someone else always does.
Think about the connection you have with someone you love and that is just an emotional connection.
I know those that do..but I do not personally have one..for the reasons that I gave...I just take it too seriously to do it so carelessly....thats not to say that I have never thought about it. ;)
so would you guys think it can be said that the connection between the awakener and the awakened is something akin to love? maybe it is love.
I dont know if I would say love or not..It is such a deep seeded connection..it could feel like love to some...hmm..now you have my mind stirring with ideas..lol
Sorry but I just don't believe in this at all, I guess I just think that this sort of thing belongs in fairy tales and story books.
lol isn't that the point of forum posts?
btw, what fairy tales are those? i'd like to read them :)
i think i can agree with you sweetblood..what sort of fairy tales are those? lol
not to mention..most tales of old were based on fact of some sort..where else would they have gotten the idea?..mind you before the tale had become that tall.
adarklust4blood.
I myself have a deep fascination with the whole concept and have also met a few people who say they are able to perform an "awakening" and a few people who have. They have also allowed me to witness them (as they put it) cross over. My fascination and dedication to the idea after years of thinking witnessing it has lead me to ask to have this done to me. my point is that you say it is a very serious thing and should be carefully and thuroughly though about. The individual I have spoken about it with will not do it because they also believe it is something that is not to be played with. though i have been speeking about it with them for about 6 years and have done much thinking (as much thinking that can be done in 6 years, lol) myself, they still wont even think about it. nore do they much care to talk about it. its very sacred to them and they feel it is not something that anyone should know about unless/untill it happens to them. even then from what i gathered it is still not spoken about between the individuals involved, at least on this physical plane. maybe it is just that to these people, im not quite ment for it. hmmmm. i guess i'll just have to settle with more of my own thoughts about this for now.
It depends, really.
You can awaken someone [not really truthfully] in a role-play. But not in a real life basis.
"Someone who is in a higher state of thought and being."
A higher state than whom? Your fellow man? Who's to say that you are more intellectual than the next person, I think it would be hard put to ascertain what makes one person at a higher level than another in some instances.
Any of us that wish to learn more and have a better understanding of things have a capability to be "in a higher state". Its a daily process.
role play would be a different thing though, wouldn't it? it would be the real thing, the real connection. just an impression of it.
I think it is more than likely someone being brainwashed into believing what the person they are infatuated with...
brainwashed? can't that just be a form of awakening? a more ignorant form? (I do not mean ignorant in any offense, but rather a lack of knowledge)
umm... i don't think brainwashing has anything to do with it. brainwashing insinuates a really bad kind of manipulation and anyone who practices vampirism knows that respect is the most important aspect of whatever they do.
yeah, the whole process of awakening seems to be more personal than brainwashing makes it appear. it's too much of a connection for people to take lightly.
To be someones fledgling or someones sire is not to be taken lightly for this reason. The actions of the "childe" reflect on the "parent". You dont want to bring someone in thats going to fudge up your reputation and name. To be brought into a bloodline is a big deal because you are now essentially family.
The connection between sire/fledgling is strong because of the time put into it (well thats the way its supposed to be). Just randomly taking people and bringing them "into your world" is not a good idea in any situation.
It takes time to make the decision of wanting to sire or be sired. This is a person you are now forever connected to in the vampyric capacity. Even after they come ito their "own" vampyricly, you are always known as the "childe" of......
Well I feel if the connection (mental) is strong enough then hey, anything is possible. I mean really has no one heard of the POWER OF SUGGESTION? yet, I do believe that a person can be awakened by another, if the thought process and connectoin between the tow are that valid. just an opinion mind ya... Yet, I am a very open minded person and actually need the proof that it cannot be done, before I will dis miss anything.
I come from a long line of Believers of open mindedness. LOL soooo, we will see or not.
Guess it is pretty much speculation until you have gone through it or witnessed it.
Must be a very personal bonding on many levels. Would it fall under how lovers bond or a master and his/her slave?
Exactly what I am saying I mean if there is a strong Bond between people anything is possibe, I mean I am a twin and I always felt this *MISSING* if you will call it feeling and I found out I was a twin when I was 27 and got my Birth Certificate. My parents felt since she died at birth there was no need to tell me, yet believe me there was a need and well anyway If the connection is strong anything can happen.
The Awakening
From the view of a Fledgling
All fledglings must first be bonded to their sire as follows:
To prepare for this rite, you and your bonded-to-be should set an evening aside where you can be alone together. On your own, each of you should prepare yourself ritually: fast for at least an hour prior to performing the rite, drinking only water but eating no food and abstaining especially from alcohol, cigarettes, or any substances that might affect your perceptions. Take a cleansing bath or shower, allowing the water to wash away any stress, distractions, or energies you do not want to bring with you to this intensely personal rite.
Prepare the place where this exchange is going to happen. Place pillows on the floor so you and your bonded-to-be will be comfortable. Place candles or tealights around the room and dim the electric lights or turn them off completely. Burn some incense that you both find pleasing and that will help set the mood for this sacred, intimate exchange. Finally, put on some soft music in the background. Select this carefully, making sure that both of you resonate with the music on some level and find its sound to be conducive to the sort of ritual atmosphere you are building. Play it loud enough to drown out any extraneous noises that might otherwise distract you such as the sounds of traffic, neighbors, or room-mates. But keep it low enough so it does not detract from the experience, which should ideally be focused on just the two of you.
When everything is set, and you both feel focused and at ease, you are ready to begin. Sit down with your partner and take a moment for each of you to get into a focused and relaxed state of mind. You might find that it's helpful to meditate a little, just to still any turbulent emotions and help raise your consciousness to the level that this rite demands. Once you are prepared mentally and spiritually, take a few moments to just feel one another's energy. You can do this by holding out your hands, palms up, and having your partner place his or her hands over yours, palms down. Your hands do not need to touch; in fact, it is easier to get a sense for the energy if you do not touch skin to skin so this very physical sensation doesn't block out the more subtle perception of energy. You may also find that it's easier to sense the energy if you close your eyes.
When you have both successfully started to perceive one another's energy, take some time to touch body and energy. Gently put your palms together and feel both the energy and the flesh as they touch. Concentrate on the sensation of the other person and their proximity to you, and work on opening yourself up to this other person until you feel some mingling of your energy with their own. You may want to take the touching farther, moving beyond just your hands to running your fingers along wrists and arms. As you touch your partner, make this a sacred rite, a worship of their essence and their flesh. Touch them so you begin to know the feel of them with your fingers; caress their fingers, their palms, and perhaps even their face. At no time does this touching need to be sexual; simply feel one another on both levels in an act that celebrates the sensation of both spirit and flesh.
After connecting on this level, take a few moments to make certain that you each have dropped all the shields you otherwise maintain to keep people, emotions, and other energies out. Open yourself completely to the other person, even if this makes you feel a little vulnerable. Finally, once both of you are as open and unshielded to each other as possible, you are ready to begin the actual exchange.
Kiss the person on the forehead over the third eye and breathe in as you do this. As you take in breath, also inhale their life-force, tasting their essence upon your tongue. Now place your lips gently over their heart. Breathe in as you breathed in over their third eye, inhaling and tasting their essence. Finally place on hand behind their head and tilt it to one side. Gently lay your lips against the pulsing vein in their throat. Press your lips to their skin just enough so you can feel their pulse against your lips. Here again, breathe in deeply, breathing their life-force as you inhale. You may want to put your free hand over their heart so you can focus even more completely upon the rhythm of the life coursing within them.
Feel that life bleeding out into you. Breathe it in deeply, savoring the unique essence of it. Breathe them until you can taste and smell and feel them with every fiber of your body. Breathe them until it feels as if your hearts are beating as one. Pull their essence inside of you, feeling it gather in your chest. Hold it in your heart until you feel their essence mingle with your own, so the other person truly becomes a part of you.
When you are finished, gently release your partner, reverently drawing away from their throat. Be sure to keep a hand lightly on their back or shoulder, as they may be unsteady after this exchange; you may find that you yourself are a little light-headed and dizzy.
Now the roles will switch. You become the passive partner, and your companion will take from you. He or she will go through the same set of motions: forehead, heart, and finally, throat. You both may want to twine your hands together as you are sharing this together. Many people find that if they close their eyes, they are able to focus more intensely on the sensation of the other person's essence and energy.
Share with one another until you feel a deep and ineffable commingling of Self. Make certain that this exchange is equal between you, so that neither partner has a stronger hold upon the other. When you are done sharing between you, take a moment to separate physically and just feel the connection that remains within you. Close your eyes and concentrate on the bond that now stretches between you and your partner.
To close the ritual, both of you should face one another and place your hands over one another's hearts. In unison, speak this vow:
I give of myself
As I take from you,
so we forge a bond
that ties us soul to soul.
We are Immortal.
We are Undying.
And nothing can sever
the bond we have sealed.
Close your eyes and concentrate on one another's energy until you feel your two hearts beat as one. Remain connected on this profound level for as long as you wish to: enjoy the intensity of experience this connection open up. When you are finished, you may wish to say something more personal to your partner. Do this if you feel you want to. Then take down the sacred space and take some time to come down from your intensely heightened state. Sharing a light meal or even just some cheese, bread, and wine, will help to ground you after such an intense working.
From the following link:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/goth/vrb/vrb08.htm
Fledglings
You are responsible for teaching and guiding those of our kind whom you have awakened to their true natures. You must guide them through their transformation, helping to ease the transition from one level of awareness to the next.
Those who you guide in this way will be as your children and will share a deep bond with you like no other.
You will know their very heart and soul. The mysteries of their Essential Self will be unveiled to you. No distance will separate your awareness of them.
The link goes both ways, and they can communicate with you and know your feelings when they choose. You may use the link to feed from them at a distance, to borrow their strength as your own.
Their thoughts will be yours to know; their actions will fall under your control if you so choose -- but do not seek to abuse this power you wield over them for as dearly as they may love you and revere you while under your control, they will just as thoroughly hate and revile you once that control has slipped away.
Nope. Never been awakened or done the awakening, I have never heard of anyone claiming this outside the internet either. I think it's quite humerous but thats just me :)
I have never awakened anyone however I have taken many young vampyre under my wing and guided them for a time until they were able to fly on there own
if you had been awakened you would know it, it's not a casual process it actually is very involving and you need someone to wake you so you would have to be involved in it.
Its funny you should ask that yes I have felt the closeniess to another who I had relations with and someone else came to turn or cross her over or awakened which ever term is best used for this ritual. She is all part of what I am and in a way I feel like its my fault she is like this. I do my part and helping her adjust to this new life. It was some time ago been couple of years but, I remain there for her and cherish what we have together the bond and friendship.
i have been awakened as a psy vampire, but i am under the impression that it is a personal thing. i cannot "sire" another, as far as i know.
So, an epiphany of any can be considered an awakening. Or exposure to any new thing. THe word isn't necessarily relegated to physical traits.
no, but I have read on it and it is belived to be as strong as a mother and her child, possibly stronger.
Yes, i have been turned, and then later awakend.
It is possible.
I have lived as a fledgling, with 5 fledglings of my own.
All of my fledglings have such a deep conection, that it is to the point of no return.
Being "turned" is a serious, eturnal choice.
Never had the chance, but I would assume that the bond would be better served the older and wiser the elder is. For example: a bond would be much closer from an elder then a whelp that got his fangs yesterday! lol I think it would all depend on the growth of the sire, should it even be real.
I 'ave done both, yet my one "Fledgling" chooses t' not acknowledge his awakenin' as o' yet. Though the signs are still prominent 'n his genes. My other fully accepts that, an' yes the bond is strong wit' us.
Heres an interesting theory, as per to say a vampyre is born a vampyre, but that part of them sleeps. If a potentail vampyre was to be around one who was awakened, would it call out to the vampyre in them to rise up and awaken? I think this actualy more what happens than a turning from human to vampyre. The person is allready vampyre to begin with, its in their blood, but for some reason it has slumbered until another cries out to it to awaken.
Just bein' around anot'er vampire will not awaken the slumberin' one, but say if the alleged person who sleeps sees an attack o' feedin' or tastes human blood it will then awaken by the ragin' hunger.
I went through my awakening long before the birth of my fledgling... I would have to say that it does help in the communication department. Drake and I always seemed to have a connection that he and his mom never did. I talk to him like a person and he understands, and that was at like 3-6 months old, and even now, I dont get to see him much.. well at all, his mother's a douch, anyway... just the times i get to talk to him on the phone, a lot of ppl that are in the background say that he doesnt stay on the phone for that amount of time unless hes talking to me. I have always felt a connection to him that doesnt seem to be there with his mom, so for this i am thankful.
I think you would have to have a very strong mental connection to do so...
Thats a very good point, awakening by another may be example or experience. I was thinking maybe this is what we are seeing when we see an awakening, do you think that to be a vampire and be awakened you were always a vampire or is it possibl to awaken a vampire in a human? I think it would always have to be there? Any inputs?
My one fledgling 'as not yet been awakened b'cause she denies that she is a vampire, yet one day she will come t' realize this soon enough.
Update* the fledgling I just talked abou' is actually a HE...I'm tryin' t' talk to my niece an' type at the same time, please excuse me...
I realized i was awaking in 1996 when i saw dracula on tv .
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I awaken every morning.. Do my chores, get ready for work and then awaken the rest of my family so that they may do the same.. lol
I really think that Fledglings is roll playing or perhaps what they call a co-dependency.My understanding of vampires(I find none off line only on this site)Are born not made so how can you make another one like your self?I am not by any means saying this dose not happen I just have a hard time believing it dose.So I wish you good luck with your spawn and take care of them well.Because I would hate to see.A rouge vampire running astray giving you a bad name on VR.
of my own opinion, i thinks it's possible depends of what you'Re meaning by awaking and fledgling.... cause it'S my boyfriends that "awake" me but that's not happend with rite or nothing like this just that i usually puncture myself or victims for blood now but before it was diferrent i was cutting myself because i was furious or sad and that release me. and my bf is a vampire of long time. and he told me to taste my blood(that was never pass on my mind before) and when i did it i feel à strong envy to have more and more. so a did it again and now i'm a proud vampire and i please my lord cause i want him to be my lord. he found the beast in me and unleash it. if it's that awaked someone so iwere awaked by my bf. and i love to please him it's a choice he don't mind if i do or not.
adarklust4blood.
Rabynion.
fancy claiming to have "turned" or "awakened" people; when that entails killing someone first.
**laughter**
bit like I don't believe in God.
"strike me down if you will."
a friend of mine uses the phrase wannabee.
"well, when I was 14, I wanted to be turned."
never happened.
awakening can mean many things to many people.
to me.. it was that there are paths of learning we can take, to enlightenent.
This is a really scary thing that bothers me on many levels. I've known people to have fledglings or 'underlings' online and their power over them is not healthy, and a vampiric scam. It's like a cult to me.
People that are weak can fall victim to others that talk a good line.
Here is a really bad example.. but i would think there is a strong bond with the vampire that awakened you.. Cuz they are almost like your protector and maker.. They would respect you and follow you.. You would be their elder with more knowledge so yes there is a connection..
I don't think the possibility of awakening someone exists. People have to awaken on their own and I doubt many are able to do so.
The "awakening" in itself is a personal experience but someone can guide you to that realization.
The idea of people having 'fledglings' sounds WAY cultish and scary to me.
i had an awakening.. it was my first orgasm.
i had been having sex for several years, never to reach climax. not that i didnt enjoy it, it just wasnt that huge release i heard others speaking of.
My memory of this event is very detailed. I can remember what i was wearing, what perfume she had on, etc
while she and i havent spoken in a very long time; there still is, on my part at least, is a very strong connection.
Awakenig as far as in a real Vampires?
Romantic and wishful thinking as far as Im concerned.