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Cartomancer Arch Sire (194) Posts: 1,252 Honor: 30,011 [ Give / Take ] |
A lot of forum posts here about Anne and her new work. She is going through changes and it happens as a writer. I am a writer, nothing like Anne- but I know I go through phases and leave behind 'lives' if you will. I have written books, including a compilation of erotica- and at this point I am not sure if I will write another erotica work. But, I do not deny the work. Anne did that earlier in her career and switched the gears completely, her erotic fans may have wondered what happened at that point- Anne at this point says she is not going to write anymore of the dark stuff. But she still very much advertises her old work and is advertising 'Lestat: Die Young, Live Forever' the Broadway Musical coming to theaters in 2006 on her website. She is proud of it... and if she thought it was sinful she surely would not have it on the front page of her website nor would she advertise ALL of her books on the site as well, correct?
I said a lot in the thread about 'Anne finding God' earlier today but the thread was closed due to the length and no one replied to what I said about her and I don't want to retype it all... I will cut and paste it if that is not breaking any forum rules or- whatever-
I did not get thru all the posts before I had to speak. I am a New Orleanian. I know Anne loves her culture, the spirituality and lore of what surrounds us here. I believe much of what has been such a switch in gears for her writing is that her life has changed. Her husband died. She left New Orleans- she is alone somewhat and in a way she is nearing the end of her life. She is trying to add a different color to her life now that all has gone a bit cold for her personally. If you know much of her- her young daughter passed away many years ago, she used that for inspiration in her books. Now at an older age with change in her life with her son grown up and moved away- her husband gone, she is handling it all differently- she's sold most of her New Orleans properties and moved to California. She is going through changes as we all do in life. Spiritual paths go in all directions, Mystical - Christain... I am a Theology major and not a Christian. There is evil to be found in the Bible- I study it because of the humanity and poetry there- and I enjoy knowing what I am arguing about :) I will enjoy reading her new book.
Basically- Anne may not be writing anymore Vampire novels, but that's ok, because she has written many of them already, and a book is a gift you can open again and again. And Lestat- will be on stage- if you are into that :)
Happy to be here with you all on the Rave~
Heidi Joy AKA Images In Words
Books are truly the one of the best gifts that one can get and give, because, as you say, you can always relive the magic of a particular book or novel again and again from simply reading the work.
Even though I personally do not find her new path very intriguing as with her Vampire Chronicles, I will still continue to read over and over the saga because it is so interesting to me.
Writing comes from within not only your heart but your soul. Anne thinks it was time for something different. Yes she has lost a lot and that does affect our everyday lives sometimes. Afterall we write what we feel. As a fellow writer I do have to understand what she is going through.
I didn't know that she'd stopped writing about Vampires... She is a very talented writer, and I am sure her future books will be more chart toppers!
I was aware that her life tragedies were her inspiration, and that she relied heavily on the influence of her dearly loved New Orleans.
I didn't know she lost her husband. I am sorry for her pain...
By the way, I think it's cool that one of her books is going onstage!!! Her works are so incredibly visual...
I liked her vampire books....
but seriously....she took it to the point of beating the dead dog....
there are other story concepts for her to find....and she seems to be finding that it is time to look for them....nuff said
I am not sure about her new direction, but I will still buy the book(s) to read. I see her as an excellent writer, no matter the subject.
And I think Lestat will always live on, as will the other vamps in her novels.
To be honest, I'm rather interested in how this book is going to turn out. She's a better than average writer, so it's probably not going to be crap.
Yeah everyone goes through stages in life some of them are temporary some of them are permanent.
So who is to say that this book just because it's different is not good?
So we better read it first and judge it:)
right now it is interesting to see how her new book turns out. will it be as successful as the other ones? will it bring her more readers? less?
i will welcome her back with open arms if she decides to go back to writing about vampyres. but for the time being im no potential buyer of her book(s)
I myself think I might be careful before buying the new book(s), as with most books I rather read them fully or partially from libraries before buying as I'd like to know what Im setting myself in for .. and when I go back to my books I like to knwo they will be fully to my moods, and needs.. so most probably I'll take my time with this one...
Words are the most intersting weapon of all they can heal and yet do so much harm as well
i agree with you ladyblood...i most likely wont buy any book unless ive borrowed it from somewhere first....didja know theres a site that is very similar to netflix? i dont remember the name, but its rather cheap and theres the option to buy if you like it enough...and you can send in books that you dont care for anymore...that definitly suits my buying tastes in books...borrow and then buy...ive bought books i thought id like and ended up never reading them...
I see it as another "passion of the christ"..and anyone that saw that piece of shit knows that it's all about stereotyped images of how christians view the world....she will be following that path...so now she is going to what? Take christ to a new level...embelish his life story...which in my opinion is a fable anyway.
She said it herself....her vampire books represented a lack of religion and belief...so now that she had a few loss' she can now take on the task of writing a book about christ? I see it as just another sell out like mel gibson...they will make her mopvie...millions will see it and say..."OMG know I know what it means to be a good christian"..give me a break...in the movie the passion...they portray satan as this ambigiousentity that seems more like a drag queen without her hairpiece than anything else....they portrayed satan as a homosexual (the image and demeanor is what I mean)....What kinda hidden message was that....so now anne rice follow suit and distort a so called image of the son of god even more than what the "bible" has.
Oh come on, it might be derived fomr her faith , but I'll always matain that it's a work of fiction based on the life of Jesus Christ, I wonder why some are treating her as if she wrote a new gospel!
Yes Luc, "The passion of the Christ" didn't impress me at all either, but funnily the portray of Satan is the only thing which I found making sense, he wasnt portrayed as some homosexual, at least what they tried to portray him as an asexual being, as God is after all, I mean who needs sex organs in the spiritual plane?! LOL but your description was hilarious though...
If there is one movie which I find portraying Jesus christ most realistically it's "The last temptation of Christ" now that puts "The passion" to shame & funnily enough it does have a disclaimer at the beginning that it's a fictional work based on Jesus life.
I agree yendor...but in the states...trust me...we are stupid and wioll wind up following her new book like it was sent by god himself
C'on people you're picking on an author just cause you don't like the subject so fkn what?Let her do it if that's what makes her happy.
Seriously why do you care?*shrugs*
Yeah unfortuanely thats how it'll end up all over the world.. it'll be taken too seriously, qouted from & used shamelessly in hollowminded religious arguments.. thats what there's about it.
Let them do it,they'll bring up arguments and fight over it while us stay watching and laugh.*shrugs*
Well I only a few of her books, but if her new ideas for books are as well written then i hope to enjoy them also.
For my part, I'm sad that Anne Rice will be moving on to another subject matter. I enjoyed her vampire tales inmensely. My only salvation is that at least I have not yet read them all, so it will be new to me when I finally have the time to read the rest of her works on still on my list.
her vampyre tales were great i hope that this is just a phase for her and she starts writting them again.
Perhaps everyone should wait to read her new book before judging her. How many of you would want to do the exact same thing for 20 years and not try something different.
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I see there is a great myriad of people here at the Rave which is awesome. Different views here about Anne and what she is up to with her new work. But all I want to get across to you all- is that she still has projects open with her Vamps- like the musical. So don't be too judegmental :) She is a Catholic- not a born again Christian- it is different. There are other ways she is keeping it alive-
In her CNN interview the other night(about 2-3 days ago) she stated that she is soley(SP?) focusing on writing a book about the life of christ and that vampires to her were a symbol of her lack of faith in religion and god...so for her to continue with vampire related themes. Her work will make her out to be a hypocrite(which wouldn't surprise me) So if you think about it...in her own words...she IS turning her back on vampires. Because for her to continue with the whole vampire genre would be her stating she has no faith in the catholic or christian faith. It doesn't bug me that she switched up writing styles...its the fact that now she has become so BOLD as to attempt to rewrite a supposed son of god's life...IN HER EYES. That's like me saying..."oh...I know believe in Allah and I'm going to write a book aboput his life" How can I? I can write about MY beliefs and MY understanding....but to attempt to rewrite a life story(which is what it is people...let's not fool ourselves) for our own monetary and reputative gain is just wrong. There are enough misconceptions of religions and whose is better and whose is more powerful. This in time will only spark an even bigger flame of ignarance.
lucios, lucios, lucios, she was brought up catholic...theres a difference between her writing about jesus from her knowlege and you writing about allah with your knowlege...unless you were brought up to believe in allah and you spent your childhood learning about him. and im christian, but if i were to meet a *real* vampire, i most definity would not be able to deny their existance now would i? and you really have GOT to remember, her writing is FICTION. you dont have to believe in god or jesus to admire literature. just like the left behind series.. it is not intended to be educational or to teach what it was/will be like...
so you mean to say that her new book about christ will be all fact? Wouldnt that be a "bible" then?
And last time I checked...no one ever really MET christ now have they?
Im not that clueless to know she was brought up catholic...Like I said...she's making a play at rewriting the story of christ...and like you said...so if she only writes fiction then I guess god and christ must not exist like vampires...right.
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One of the saddest things about this is the flack Anne is getting for making changes in her life- So she is doing what is best for her- rock on with it. She has created some amazing literature for the world that is all I know. I know that many of you know it as well. People need to be respected for being true to what they feel is best FOR THEM. That's her life. She is not a hyprocrite, she is just on a new path- and her other books are still advertised just as openly on her website- as long as the books are there the characters are alive and well. Anne has done plenty for the fantastical Vampire history- she deserves Mass Kudos. And as for her new path- I hope it is good to her...
I see it as her attempting to re-create christ. The bible according anne...so to speak.
I cant wait for the movie to come out...johnny depp as christ...bill clinton as the emperor and chris tucker as judas
They will travel the future to save mankind from their savage ways.
Finding god is one thing...profiting and exploiting it to make abuck is another.
hence its FICTION... fiction is not fact... what anne has to say will not be fact, only what she can get based on what shes learned from the bible and she may even study freudian psychology to decide some major things that happen to her CHARACTER....yes, he is the messiah of the christian religion....but anne is making up what his life was like before he was a major part fo the bible..
So what I understand is that.. god is fiction, and Anne Rice is just making up shit that she thinks would sell good?
Changes are a part of all os us. We can't question how one changes, we can only let it be. Without changes we wouldn't become who we are.
I wish the best for Ann, I'm sure that she will live on.
im sure she will too....but to change something that is not yours is wrong. Thats like me taking a story someone wrote and changing the whole thing and addiong on to it...that would make me what?....enlightened?
Not to sound rude or anything and forgive me if I do, but she is just trying to find a less depressing side of death before she dies. I am sure she would write more if she were not dealing with the problems she is. Anyone who faces problems like that I am sure would not fare to well in their hearts.
everyone has their sad depressing tales to tell...
So you mean to say that her writings of vampires was a depressing time in her life...I find that starnge. She made money hand over fist with her tales of the vampiresm the mummy, the mayfair witches. That still doesn't change the fact that she is attempting to create a fictional book about the life of christ. So she has the right to rewrite the story of christ to help....what?...make her "FEEL" better. I thought that her "finding god" did that already.
I have all 5 of the series and im reading #1 of the series and it's grate my their my moms books though but she said if i read 1 i can read the next and read the next after that so im planning on it and im 13...
thanks for letting us know what you are going to read next,,,
so are you even reading the topic or just the name of the thread...if that.
everyone makes progress, everyone moves on.
Ii say let her do her thing. I bet most of you wont be the same person you are now in five years.
you're right...but I bet none of us will try to recreate a biblical figure and attempt to warp history more than what it is.
this is very old news to me..i said a while ago that this would be a stunt to get more to read her
I love you seawitch...you get it.
See people...she is a perfect example of someone who is NOT sheep.
anne rice is a good writer.an author always moves on to another subject. her books are interesting but are fiction.if your interested in vampires you should read something else, a non fiction book on vampires. she is just saying shes moving on for publicity and to get attention for her new book.
That was quite the ambiguous response...kinda right on the edge...like the answer wasn't an agreement or disagreement...just a response with no real opinion...could you elaborate please.
Anne's new book sucks.
I'd like to see a noble succubi like that other RPG, a character named Grace
so many interesting points to read on this subject i personally will not say i will or will not read the books she is yet to write because i tend to steer clear or religious genre because I have my own opinions on religion and don't feel like trying to debate it with anyone else...I know what is the right thing to me may not be the right thing to others and that is the way I would have it....but I don't go asking people for thier religious points of view either and therefore am not going to ask for hers either but if the topic comes up and something she has written catches my interest then I will investigate for myself and then make a decision from there but if it doesn't come up and doesn't catch my interests then I guess I will never know and blissfully continue my life the same as I have been....
Well I can understand her going through changes, and yes they do influence your writing style. But wasn't she well known for her dark material?
I will have a look at her new book, but I doubt it'll be anything on her previous ones.
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she was known for her darker material... but she was also once known for her erotica- she was A.N. Rocquelaure and her erotica fans also wondered what the hell happened to her when she gave up the Sleeping Beauty series. Writers change. I also wrote a book of erotica as 'Christina Soaring' and I have since retired her. As a writer I know that people go thru 'lives' if you will. But again, her work- ALL of her work is alive and well on her site and new projects like the musical Lestat are happening.
It is obvious that some people here don't give a flying fuck and are pissed that she's taken a new path- but who cares what they think- it's her damn path. No one likes to be judged--- don't we all advocate being true to ourselves? Especially the crowd here on the Rave- many of us follow pagan lifestyles and are judged in life- so who are we to turning our noses up at her now- can't we just say- well- 'whatever makes you happy Anne'- even if the subject matter isn't your cup of tea. This is HER truth, not ours- not our choice, decision, problem, or matter.
Anne Rice has given so fucking much to Vampire history/literature/fantasy, wave her off to the sunset and let her be.
im sry im kinda new and i looked her up and i couldn't find anything on her so if u could tell me who she is id be greatfull thanks
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not knowing her by name- you may know her work best as the movies made from her books 'Interview With the Vampire' and 'Queen of The Damned'.
But still, it is a bit like losing an old friend isn't it?
*Smiles*
lucioswolfe i am going to read the whole series 1 by 1 and then after that il read the stephen king series which i have all of...
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i have heard that she has written some very good novels, though i don't do very much reading i give her respect for i have gotten the opinion of people who are very much like my self therefore i fell if i were reader or decided to become one i would start with the vampyric novels by Rice...
books give you another life to live if you dont like your own...or simply wanna get away from it all
It's more like a friend turning their back on you to eat lunch at the popular kids table and denouncing your existance...with a friend like that who would need enemies.
Wow thanx for the info.Anne Rice's works are very well written to make each a visual masterpiece worth reading.I will certainly look forward to any new works she brings out in the future.... and a musical?Well whatever floats your boat i guess...lol.
If you have read more than one Anne Rice book from cover to cover, then I will listen to your opinion. For the time being I have seen her website & also have done enough investigation to know that she is not "strickly into Jesus" as so many have stated. She is trying to get "The Vampire Lestat, The Mummy into movie deals!!"
Also, The Mayfair Witches WILL be a miniseries soon on NBC!!
Wether you enjoy Anne's work or not, one thing is for sure, she is not "ABANDONING" her vampires!!!!
She is still promoting her former "works"
I have to disagree with you there GPSF...when she was on CNN about 2 weeks ago...she stated herself she was focusing her time and energies on her book about christ and basically denounced the idea of her past endeavors...I don't doubt you did investigate this fully...I think she's just trying to ride both sides of the track to get and stay on that gravy train...I mean...if you think about it...how much PR would that be after saying she will have nothing more to do with vampires and occult and have 2 movies and a TV mini-series revolving around the occult
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Thank you GothunkStarFighter12 for reiterating what I have been trying to say here and started this thread for in the first place. Facts are facts. If she was abandoning her work she would not be advertising it on her website nor would she be having new productions such as the musical or movies. It is as simple as that!
All I can see is what is laid out in front of me. But people will always have their own opinions.
I love Anne's books. i'll read whatever she writes' but that is good news!
Yeah, I saw the cnn thing as well. If I remember correctly she said she was only writing for jesus. But that is just the writing part.
She is still promoting her occult work, that much is obvious. And she is working on movie/TV deals. Like I said she has struck a deal with NBC for the Witch chron.
This will bring one of her biggest occult works to a larger veiwing audience than she has ever had before. You won't need to buy a movie ticket, or own cable. That doesn't sound like she's abandoning her occult works to me.
You're right, gothpunk. I still find it hypocritical of her though that she's only going to "write for Jesus", yet she's still promoting all her old stuff. Sounds like she's just after the money. And you're right, imagesinwords, everyone does have their own opinions, whether you like them or not.
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and that was my point all along...I guess im bad at getting to the point...lol
I don't think she "found god"...i think she is just finding new ways to manipulate the masses.
I love Anne Rice's vampire Chronicles as many of us do. And am very sad she is quitting writing the books. But as all good writers they get older and quit writing. I will always cherish my collection of all of Anne Rices books and read them over and over again, then give them to my daughter when she is old enough to keep for even longer. I'm just very hapopy she wrote what she did. They are all great books. I wish her well, and am sorry for her losses.
I have never read one of her books ,I must of been living under a rock.I will purchase one soon because she has alot of respect by the sounds of it
it's a pitty cos she wrote good books ...but never know what is she going to write though...cos it mught be something interesting:)
I'm just waiting for the Anne Rice reality show on PAX network.
I for one have read ALL of Anne Rice's books... I find them all to be wonderful..
I believe that most all of her books delt with her religious choice in one form or another... Even her Vampire Characters themselves deal with the whole good/evil.. god/devil idea...
With that said... for her to "suddenly" change subject matters is not surprising to me. Though I am saddened to see that she will not be writing anymore Vampire books in the near future... I do however wish her luck with her new endevor... (weither it be for money, or her faith)
I personally don't read her new subject matter, but that does not mean I won't browse through her new books... being as I love her old ones... *shrugs*
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serenity1978: that would be because you are non-judgemental and you rock :)
exactly imagesinwords. Anne Rice is one of the best Vampire book writers of all time i think, it's sad there will be no more to her chronicles, wish she could end the section so to speak. I hope she finds whatever she's looking for.
I don't believe that she is closin the door on vampires she is just trying to be more tha just a backwriter.
i had never really heard of her until i saw a thread started... then i say a magazine article in a christian mag that said she was in the christian scene and that jesus was the greatest of the superhumans (something like that at least). i'll have to tread the article again since this is apparently a big deal, i'll also have to go find some of her works in the library and see what they're like. if what you guys say is true i should like them.
anne is certainly great and all that...well hopefully she decides to go back to vamps...her voice will be sorely missed if she never writes a vamp fiction again...
I truley hope Anne doesn't stop she is a great writer and I have enjoyed her work greatly
Anne Rice's books would be wonderful no matter what she is writing about. Her vampire stories are beautiful and not taken to the point of beating a dead dog, but thats my point of view. She could write about anything and be good at it.
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I believe you are correct :) She is going to write anything WELL, rather you dig the subject matter or not is a different story ;)
i love the fact that anne rice was able to take vampires (which many people awhile back considered to be a ugly dark subject) and make them appear to be beautiful and sexy creatures. this is what turned me onto her writing in the first place. she has made other books not concerning vampires and they were all very good, so i am sure whatever she is conjouring up now will be just as good. after all she is an excellent writer. and i had no clue her husband died, how sad.
I honestly really enjoy Anne Rices work on vampires, however if she chooses not to do any more is her choice as an artist . I know how art can help you work through a subject. And after time you will hate to look at the art that you put so much of your soul in. If she has healed the I am more than willing to read work on a diff subject.
A religious book of this calibur is going to be very different for Anne but with the work that she did on Memnoch it should be a very interesting tale. I too am a constant writer and a strong believer that once you stay dedicated for a character for so long you can't just give up on them.
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She has simply lost her dedication, and has a new focus. But they will live on in books, new movies, and TV plans...
Wow that was quite informative. There was a lot that you said that I had not realized. I never new she was putting an end to the vampire stories. The sad thing is that i just began reading her about a year ago. I have not yet read all the vampire chronicle do to my remoteness. but it is still disappointing that there i will be no more new additions to look forward to.
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I have to agree with that - new books/stories are always an exciting thing- knowing we are not going any further with it in area of storylines pretty much sucks big time.
Sucks big time...couldn't have put it any better myself....lol
So HOW DOES one put a "new" spin on the story of Christ? I'd like to know this. And what will the Vatican's take on this be(if any) I wonder if she will try her hand at rewriting the bible(but she's already doing that with her "tale" of christ) Or maybe she'll attempt rewriting the story of eden. Because we ALL know that Lestat is the reason for ALL our sins.
OR maybe she'll attempt to rewrite the Koran, hmmmmm I wonder what "those" people would think of that. They have a strong , and I mean blow you up strong view on their bible. But Americans seem to be too media-tized and feel that everything is Interchangeable , especially if you are famous and have the $$$ to back it.
I mean really people. She stated herself "I'm working on the story of christ and his life"
Hmmm DO YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR BIBLE? Or do you want someone telling you "No, this is what happened in your religious beginning"?
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It would be worth the read alone if we were to discover Lestat was the great sin manufacturer :)
Anne has written some good books and she probably wants to make sure her next one is as good I mean I feel they ruined her work on queen of the damned with the movie but thats just my thoughts
I would doubt that Rice would close the door on Vampires. Rice has a lot to say and her writings allow her to say it. She is also soul searching over the long ago loss of her child and the more recent loss of her her husband.
Does she write simply for the money-doubtfu. Her books have sold millions of copies-I would suspect she is long past worrying about or needing money
She will be letting a lot of people down if she does close the doors.
wow man this is the first i heard of this... all i can say is i hope it's only a phase *sobs*
anne rice has written more then on just vampires and her interview and qotd werent the only books adapted to movies she wrote a book called east of eden in which they made it a movie its well done and very funny ..theyve also covered feast of all saints on made for video and cable (showtime )channel .shes done books on witches.. eunichs ... genies//ghosts.. mummies and a series called the sleeping beauty series .so now she writes for jesus ,..ppl just let her do her thing .if you buy it fine if not cool but dont judge her based on her vampire works or any of her work this is a new topic matter and i for one am happy to see her branching on to other enties ,all of it has spirtuality in it and yes one reason im sure shes doing it is for money but as gothpunk and many others have said shes not abandoning her vamps or other earlier works shes promoting them to she just wants to try a new realm so to speak respect her talent im not religious but i am open minded and i will read and buy the new books to and come to my own conclusion whether it was good or worth reading and buying ,stop giving her grief already shes been through enough ...did it ever occur to you this is how shes coping on healing from the death of her life partner we all heal at different time frame and in different ways .writing is her passion its one way she copes and expresses all sorts of emotions or how she is feeling at any given time .her and him had a thing in common they both wrote and their son picked up on it to hes a good writer ..yes the dad stan painted hes amazing .his works are beautiful! he coped in expressing through prose/poem..and painting she does it through writing books which some have been adapted for tv or big screen ,my point is shes doing what she wants and living her life how she wants and isnt hurting anyone in the process .respect her for her and her talent and stop with the grief already its older then her books are ffs! ok im done sorry this was a long winded post LOL
Some of her other books are quite good.
I think Jesus is just another Romantic hero to her. I wouldn't look for it to be very different from her previous writings.
well somnolent in a way you may be very right he may be just another romantic figure for her to write about ,im sure in his own way jesus did have a romantic side just never had time to build on it cause he knew his purpose so why else go there and find out ,you could see he had a romantic side based on how he was depicted when mary magdalena and he spent time together .. i can forsee that being part of her plot she will make him out to be quite romantic just like she has with various characters of hers vamp and non vamps shes created :)
This was a good thread to read for the discussion.
However, 'tis time to move on.