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i always heard that vampires are sterile

Then those people who go around here saying they are vampires who have kids would be lying about being vampires right?

huh..This is strange..I have never heard such a thing..of course then again I haven't really looked up too much on the subject...

well we hear of a pure blooded husband and wife havinig a pureblood vampire child. or if a human and a pureblood have a child, it's a hafling. it goes to prove that they are not sterile and they can and do reproduce. I have no doubt that they can have children, just as humans and lycans can.

HmMm....That is a good point but I would more insight, and the opinions of others would be nice. Heh heh good debate subject eh? ;)

i don't see how they wouldn't be able to but they have no need to have kids

thats a nice explanation.... but tell me this:
vampires, are suposedly immortal, true?
if so, i can they have a sun?
like 2 purebloods give birth to another pure blood.. the child would be immortal too right?
so... that child wouldnt be able to get older, and would stay in a baby form forever?
:/

OoOo that is a good one...and a brainer! o.O

This is in the right section as far as i believe,but i'm no dominar or admin i am an acolyte and since this is about vampires looks good to me here.Anyway getting to topic of discussion.I've never heard this and think honestly it's pure T b-crap....imho lol


I think all creatures of this earth human..vampire or even wild animal all females have chance of producing unless you were born that way or something caused you to go sterile .I don't believe vampires are sterile meerly because all vamps of today are human and they in reality arent immortal as far as shell/body .spirit can be immortal or eternal..but unless you were harmed by lots of toxic fluids or radiation or something like that or born sterile and your a vamp or human or lycan or whatever if your female 95% chance you will reproduce if you meet a guy and things happen :) just my 2 cents .

Hmmm I do wonder...would they stay in infant form? eeeeesh that is scary to think of..

scary indeed .now i sit and wonder *hmmmm*

Tis' a brainer is it not? Nice thought at 5:30am in the morning lol blaaah! =/

No, even an pureblood baby must grow to adulthood but, i have been told, the rate of aging is substantially slower than that of humans. they still reach sexual maturaity and can therefore porcreate at that time but they stay youthful much longer than a human. Everything is part of the circle of life and death is part of that too. I would think it might depend on the blood line too, some living longer than others due to genetic differences.

hehe, indeed

well.. than again... they arent immortal.
even aging in a very low rate, they still go older, and they will still die.
if thats so, than all about immortality, is a lie

Yes, tis true, they may just have a much longer lifespan, but immortality in my beliefs belongs to the soul and never exists in the body or mind

First of all, good subject and I do have some insight on this.

First off, A vampyre is not sterile; it just if it is his own fledgling or any fledgling of his blood. He or She may not be able to reproduce. This comes to the of the baby vampire; a pureblood can have a child, and that child does grow normaly to a certian age, mostly around his 30's. At that time the rest of his vampyre nature sets in and finish the true transformation of his nature.
Second, A vampyress can get impregnated by a mortal; where as the vampyre can also get a mortal woman impregnate. This in form create half-bloods name dhampyrs. If I spelled that wrong I think an admin will fix it for me. These children must drink of the parents later in life to change or at least one with the gift.
There are more cases of birth of vampyre, but those should help you out.

Kabal, thats the most reasonable answer so far.
i liked it, simply and straight to the point.

Yes it is but now I am curious about the dhampyre's.....

Graaaagh!!!!!! curse my curious nature to hell and back >.

what are u curius now?

very informative and an interesting topic. i agree with jessicamarie, the true immortality is in the soul or essence of the person, not their physcial form. however, if a vampire lives several human lifetimes, compared to a human, is he not "immortal"? in the eyes of a human, living far beyond human years is immortality, even if it does not mean living for all time and eternity.

there is no forever in my opinion...just a beginning and an end...and I am curious "again" sighs because that is my nature =)

lol

jessicamarie is curious about the dhampyre's..... , just what did you want to know JM? their life span, reproductivity?

All of it =) *pays attention O.O

crisathome, actually, no... i dont see it like that, the word immortality, only has one meaning, the one who can't/wont die.
if thats so, just because someones life lasts for long more than a normal person, he shouldnt be concidered immortal.

true, souls are immortal, they last forever, they may just change "containers", but we werent talking about the souls, but about the physical form. thats why we were talking about sterility.

i am going to post something, that is a work of fiction but has lot of facts, it will cost you about $15 dollars, but it give good advice about our nature.

who cares i just love sex if they are it is no biggy but if mot then whoooooohhhhooooooooooooo vamp babys be hard to breast feed though

OoO that book looks interesting =)

ouchies....bite nipples off ouch ouch ouch

indeed, the book looks nice.
but even books, sometimes we get confused with all the info and stuff... but its good to know diferent points of view

Yes different points of views are nice to have especially about a brainer subject such as this

no no no, first off a vampyre child is born white of skin, with no true vampire nature; other than adversity to light and some religious artifacts. As the child mature, the genes activate in his blood, gradually thru life he become a true pureblood, so your nipples are safe.

just a thought...statistically, males are most often the cause of infertility in a couple. Females DON'T have a 95% chance of conception without mobile sperm. (secret message...if you want to be a daddy...lay off the weed now!)

haha, jessica, i think ur brests are safe xD lol

i'm sure even vampire babies do not have teeth when they're first born, just like humans. as to the immortality issue, some may be immortal and other not, only they would know who and what they truely are, right? and we all know how vampires like to keep themselves and their nature hidden (most of the time).

religious artifacts? /:) lol I have heard that religious artifacts have no effect on vampires lol and its jsut a stupid myth...

but have you ever watched stoned sperm, there the life of the party, he he he

er.....*post your stupid comment here

true, crosses do nothing for us; heck Wild Child use to have thousand of those when he was known as Nicholas. Yet there are older religous artifact out there that can harm a vampyre. Most are still hidden, and what can harm us; are actually mostly in the postion of some active vampire hunters.

You meanthose that pertain to witchcraft, vaudin, and other misc. stuff?

stoned sperm, that has got to be a lame segway to another subject entirely. afraid it does not belong on this thread.

stoned sperm???
LMAO

*imagines it running arround in circles, hiting each other, slamming against the walls, laughing alot*

I agree cris...

that is a funny visual lol

Well they do have reproductive organs and such for a reason, right? I think they can reproduce. If not their reproductive organs would of fallen off or discintigrated cause then they wouldn't be needed. They used to say that vampires couldn't go to the restroom either, but would that make sense? After all they have to get rid of those unwanted nutrients from their body somehow, right?.....lmao

Second...and listen to this....the characteristics and traits of vampirism in the real and factual sense have NOTHING to do with the melatonin levels of the skin. If you seriously think "vampires are white" you need to lay off of the movies before you step to a discussion with any of Us. "Vampires" may happen to be more sensitive to light, sun, UV, etc. but that most certainly does not make us "white" in the sense that you suggest. Re-examine history...could any of us come from "white"? And what is that anyway? Caucasion?...oh you mean the race named after the idea of Noah landing his ark in the Caucus mountains? A "race" named on a biblical reference, please! "Race" catagorically, does not exist, it is a social construction, and a damaging and divisive one at that. Do not step to me and tell me that vampires are "white". hisssssssssssssss.........

religius artifacts, i was always of the opinion that artifact alone couldnt do anything, only artifacts that were blessed against vampires

lol you poor thing I have always thought of vampires as what we would look like if our genetics came out perfect...

Guess I showed up in time. I am a Damphyre, or non-pures bourne awakened. I don't age quickly but I did maintain a somewhat norm child growth. Now it takes longer for my body to catch up to its age. As far as the whole sterility thingy, thats a crock of bs. It's a matter of deciphering fact from fiction. Vampires never claim that their shells are immortal.

besides I hear you have to have real faith behind it.....its pathetic watching a Aethiest wave a cross lol

Catalunah, some auto-proclamed "vampires", usually say theyr immortal

jess that visual would be very hypocritical of the atheist,but funny none the less.A real kodak moment. lol

lol on that Athiest waving a cross thing , JM...lol
I would assume that it looks funny as all get out...lol

giggles

hehe

sorry was checking messages, sorry twice over. One for the sperm comment, second about the whiteness of the baby, what I meant is that most vampyre, have a lower coloration in nature. So just meant that baby was whiter than normal causian, you know like an albino. BEG for mercy, and a cookie.

throws out 500,000 cookies and watches what happens

here *hands a cookie* oreo?

first off, blah, hate oreo, what kind of cookies are those, Jessica

stay on the subject please....no dstracting me as I am easily distracted =/

Kabal, seeks the cookie only from me! and of course, I give it. Thank you for the response and explanation. I have a giant chocolate chip cookie for you brother. *smiles

a cookie is one thing....as for mercy...hmmm...I am really more of a heel to the back of the neck sort of female, I'll have to consider that.

Response on immortality. Most do in a jokingly sarcastic manner because people believe we are. Its like I was once told: "When you are asked something so easy, you just can't resist to pull their chain.
I woulda responded sooner but I wanted ice cream...lol.

lol, i didnt mean in "asking" i was talking about people that simply go like:
"u know, i am a vampire and i am immortal, fear me"
and u just go "righttttt"
Oo

here one from underworld and van helsing, has there ever been a halfbreed born of lycan and vampyr

Well most that do that are only living the lifestyle and are not real. But I'm a smart ass at times and its kinda funny when I say it to strangers...lmao.

that is also a good question o.O

hehe :)

Why yes ther has Kabal. I know this one all to well.

Kitty, you know all too well I am a rebirth, I might be of wolf magic and vampire rebirth but I do not meet that criteria.

i think, for the most part, if someone freely admits to being a vampire, they probably are not one but are living the lifestyle. (no offence ment to Cat)

Oo PLEASE no hostlity pweese =(

well, i dont concider myself a vampire, but i believe they may exist, also why i may sound a bit sceptical sometimes (not sure how to write that, but u understand)

O no offense taken. I don't take offense to anothers belief.
Kabal, I wasn't speaking of you. I thought you knew that tale...lol.

i don't consider myself a vampire, i consider myself a rebirth

well if you were going to admit to being a vampire, this might be the more logical place to do it anyway, i believe, like races of humans, there are many and varied genetic strains of vampires and lycans as well as humans. without genetic diversity, even vampires would end up with birth defects like those experienced by ancient european royality that intermarried too often.

i do think vampires are sterile

i disagree but certain strains of the vampire genetic code could carry a sterility gene in them.

o.O I feel a debate coming on.... heh heh heh >:}

debates are always good

Yep Yep ^.^ awwwww shucks the left us >:|

huh?

No one is here :(

debates are good keep the blood warm and flowing

from what i no they are

Sounds to me that too many people are watching Buffy. If vamps are dead/evil - no children. If vamps are real - children, unless you have sex standing up! ;)

LMAO!

i hate buffy... now, about the standing up thing... thats good too

Okay are you talking movie vamps , myth vamps , or real life vamps . Because I have 3 lovely children despite the fact that doctors said I would not be able to. Granted it took a long time and there are large gaps between them, but they are here none the less. If you are talking real life then of course we can have kids , after all it's not like the movies where we go around infecting others to increase our numbers.

well,
i think SOME of this has to reflect back to another thread I saw about undead and living vampires.........

the undead ones would be sterile, yes? since they are not 'techicnally' living. Hard to produce anything biological when you don't breathe, sweat, or have any other, er, bodily functions.

For the 'living' vampires, I see no reason, as a whole, for sterility. I mean, a person can have problems, just laike ANY person, be he/she vampire or no...but as a race....well, it doesn't make any sense for every vampire to be sterile, does it?

I would have to ask tall those 'immoratl' vampires....how does that work? Does the biological clock STOP? Because, as stated above, living/aging slowly is not immortality, just long life. One can still expect puberty, and menopuase (and the male equiv)......if just aging slowly. For an immortal, if the 'clock stops', does that mean a woman never ovulates? (making pregnancy impossible)....see where I am going.....?

you know i have never heard of such a thing but it would make sence...since being a vampyre is a condition that involves a blood disorder..it would makes sence that someone would have a hard time, or not be able to at all..to bear children...
ive been told that i cant have kids the normal way..i dont have periods due to my condition..so it makes sence.

yes, i understand ur point very well.
i also wonder how that works out

In movies and literature vampires are depicted as sterile as the body is dead and therefore cannot reproduce. Anne Rice's vampires were even unable to have sex because of this, and their highest level of ecstacy was in the drinking of blood.

If you are speaking of individuals who live a vampiric lifestyle - I know many who have children of their own.

In the old folk lore with dead vampires consuming the blood of humans to stay alive, repopulation through sex was impossible because there was no sperm. The virus, or demon or whatnot that invaded the dead body didn't seem to care about regenerating life in the lower regions.

Well i have never heard of Vampires being steril befor. But if this indeed true. I would think that as with every race there would be a possiblity of mutated genes. No race stays exactly the same forever. Humans themselves are constanly chemicaly changing inside. I dont think the pure blood child of two pure blood vampires would be damned to an infant life forever. i think that the ageing process would mearly take along time. long enough that mabey they appear to be imortal. you never know. im gonna stop babbling now

This would go back to old topics like what is a vampire to you?

We can discuss vampires all our lives but we'll never find an answer.

Everyone has different interprations.

Since I don't believe in vampires as myths describe them,but believe in people who practice vampirism,whetear it's blood or energy feeding,I believe that vampires can have children.

No matter which lifestyle you live you're still a person like the others.

You still are going to school/work,pay the taxes,eat,sleep,go to the toilet and yes have children.

its spelled Skeptical :) hehe

good point darkling!

and ty Batchyld ^^ hehe

in my experience......

i am NOT a vampyre, but a Guardian. i do however have a child from a psi vamp and at the tender age of 2 she already feeds though it is unconcious and in very small amounts.

i dont know if being a psi makes a difference but i can say that they at least are fertile

i don't see why they wouldn't

Vampyres can have children..look at Blade

Ok, going from a biological standpoint, after death it takes awhile for the testicles to shrivel up and sperm to die. Keeping the body at the right temperature may allow some of the sperm to stay alive longer than normal death and decay. So if a vamp male kept his feeding schedule and temperature in check, it's possible he could father children well into his death... especially if he fathered them to a human woman.

Now for women. That's harder. If she got pregnant soon after death and was kept on machines to make sure the fetus got all the nutrients it needed to grow, it might be possible for her to carry to term.

I would hazard that vampire babies carried by female vamps would be born premature and with health problems (other than death yes).

In Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake Vampire Hunter series, LKH explores these possibilities. She goes for vamps producing children soon after death...

From The Anita Blake Compendium:
It is possible for a male vampire to mate with a female mortal and produce children. However, in order for this to occur, the body temperature of the vampire needs to be closer to human norm. Another drawback is the possibility of Vlad's Syndrome, which is a child born as a revenant. Most of the time, children of such unions spontaneously abort. Female vampires cannot bear live young. More often than not, their bodies absorb the fetus back once again. The dead cannot give birth to life.


Or we can just say that vamps don't subscribe to the normal rules of nature and therefore reproduction anyway so this is all moot and by the wave of my magic fairy wand, we have vampy kids.

I do not believe that vampires are sterile at all~NFA

I believe that vampires are not sterile unless they have genetic condition that makes it so. they have sexual organs and reach sexual maturity just like human children or other animals, it only stands to reason, if they have the equipment, nature intended them to use it for a purporse. otherwise vampires would looke like ken and barbie dolls, absent of genetalia, since it would be useless.

I am not sure what to believe with all this discussion. I guess it would depend on how the vampire blood is passed on to you as to wether or not children are in your future. I never trust the movies for any of this information though, they tend to be too hyped up. The best research I have found so far is in the old texts from Italian legends. Library research is a wonderful thing, especially if you can go t that country.

To me this is how I see it if vampires were sterile than there wouldn't be any now. I could be wrong but that is my thinking. So yes vampires can have kids.

I heared vampires are sterile

Okay I am NOT saying they are sterile lol I just wanna see points of views ;) I agree they can have children.

Maybe it varies depending on what breed of vampire it is?

*starts reading, grabs a second cup of coffee, then comes back and finishes reading*

Hmmmmm ok....

Vampires and sterility.

I think it all depends on the vampire. In may of the old tales from folk lore and legend there were types of vampires who most definatly could not reproduce for any number of reasons. However there were also any number of species/classes of vampires in world myth and lore who were more then capable of siring or giving birth to live offspring, sometimes fully vampiric and sometimes half vampire-half human, depending on the parents. Though in all the lore I have read it was most often seem that a birth resulted when a male vampire mated with a female human or a female vampire with a male human. I rarely come across references to a child born of two vampires.

If you are talking "mortal vampires" those who are either as has been discussed and suggested in other threads, eternal vampiric souls reborn into a mortal body, or those who are human and either have a vampiric nature and tendancies or simply live the lifestyle? Well then I would assume that for those types of vampire the odds of sterility vs fertility would be pretty much the same as with the rest of the population out there and something that is on a person by person basis and not indicitive of the vampires as a whole.

Jessica I know this to be true vampire,s can not reproduce sexualy. I am 30 and I have no children....

well, speaking of the mythological vampyres, im not aware of any reproduction.
sanguine vampyres i would say can reproduce just as much as psy-vampyres.
but there are quite a few brainers in this thread and its 4.30 am now lol

I think it's fiction and goes with the idea that there is no life in a vampires body. In one Anne Rice novel or other(I think Queen of the Damned) some one says some thing along the lines of "We don't eat, we don't grow old, and we don't procreate"

I heard that vampires are sterile

Ok, I would have to say that vampires have as much chance of reproducing as humans do! After all, vampires inhabit living human bodies with all the human functions!

And remember, folks, not all humans can reproduce, either! It just depends on the genetic luck of the draw, health, and lifestyle! (Laughing out loud, picturing stoned vampire sperm circling around the egg...)

Like it was mentioned before. This would not be true since most do not awaken until close or after puberty after the blood and genes have developed.

If that was true about Vampyrs being sterile, then how did the pure blood's become to be.

Wow... such an insiteful (sp?) discussion. Imho I believe that vampires as they exist today are not sterile. I think the point has already been explained quite well before, and since I do not have more information that has not been added above, I will bow out as gracefully as posible.

vampires are NOT sterile
this would mess up history, being 'born' a vampire would be a total lie, plus the myth of Damphir(german spelled) would be impossible

i would tend to believe they would be

depends on what legend you are talking about if you speak of the one where there are pure bloods that are born vamps and can induct into the family so to speak then the purebloods are not but if it is just a virus that is spread thru the blood then they are all sterile or better yet dry

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