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What are your thoughts going into the next series? Have you read the comics? What are your thoughts relating to the two? for those that read the comic book please share the current situation.

I think last season was one of if not the best overall. It was obvious what was going to happen but it was really well done. Looking forward to where they are going to take it. I have not read the comic book but I might now.

Season 5 should go beyond the previous seasons.

I have read all of the comics and the current situation is totally different from the show. Reason being, the comic is far beyond (in time) where the show is currently. The show may catch up but I hope not.

I will post more when I have more time.

Cool The whole terminus group was swiftly beat. however they were (as the dialogue between Carol and the one lady ) an actual sanctuary until a disturbance occurred from a hard ass group.

I was like yes then when I saw them bent over that metal bathtub thingy. I thought the three many guys was going to loss their heads. Before Carol saves there arses. Can't wait to see how it unfolds more.

Carol came back in a big way. A few shots, some zombie blood and she took the whole compound down, saving all the gang. :) She sure the heck has come a long way from the first few shows, beaten down by her hubby, death of her child.

Question- was the man on the table being cut to pieces anyone we knew?

i think putting the first survivor Rick met back in rotation was slick. I had a hard time reading his demeanor from the short glimpse we get of him.

Dabs, his name is Morgan. Been waiting for his return.


Vampirewitch, he was the brother of the leader at Terminus. The woman that Carol left for the walkers was their mother (Mary). This was all discussed on 'Talking Dead'.

Since I watch The Walking Dead online as my cable company does not offer the channel, I haven't took the time to try and find the Talking Dead yet. Hard enough to find The Walking Dead to watch without the security on the computer flags going off.

Thanks for the info.

Yea I just found a site streaming the talking dead. Thanks for sharing Mr Z

One thing this show has taught all of us: the only way to live in peace during a zombie apocalypse is kill everyone else!

That's just it though. In the walker/zombie apocalypse, it's the living that are the real danger.

Same as it is right now.

I am happy to see Morgan back. He would be my first choice as leader if something happened to Rick.

My second choice would be Michonne.

Obviously, the fan favorite would be Daryl. Problem is, Daryl is expendable. How so? He doesn't exist in the comic.

I did like the counsel idea. But, (as the show has basically proven) in this world, government of any kind, is eventually going to fail.

I also think Carol is coming to her end. If anyone has noticed, when they spend extra time on a specific character (Rick being the only exception), that character meets their doom.

Besides, Carol is dead in the comic. Has been for quite some time now.

So there was no Terminus in the comic books?

Not really. There were cannibals in another situation like this. It gets pretty rough.

What number are the comics up to? How did Carol die?

The comics are up to #135 which will be published on December 10, 2014.

This is the way Carol died in the comic...

"On her last day alive, she joined Lori for a picnic outside in the prison yard and discusses with her what would happen if she were to die. Lori agreed that she would take responsibility for Sophia, unaware of Carol's plan. She then joked about finding a man before it's too late, which Carol literally did, as she seduced and slept with Hershel's son Billy, whom she had recently taken a subtle liking to. Afterwards, she wandered into the courtyard where Alice was keeping a zombie for testing purposes and poured out her feelings to it. In a state of delusion, she began talking to it, explaining how everyone no longer trusted her and that she now had no other friends in the world besides it. She moves closer and allows it to bite her and ravage her neck."

Taken from: http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/Carol_(Comic_Series)

Ehh,I watched it all the way till,
the first of the 3rd season,then i got bored.
it's like a soap opra,for zombies.

blekkkkk.

Sounds more like a quote from Romero. Who likes to use zombies in his films to make political statements and such. I find that to be detestable.

The fact of the matter is, it's a television show, not an hour and a half movie. There has to be dialog and more than just people running around killing zombies.

Likening The Walking Dead to a soap opera, is childish at best.

I watch it for several reasons-

I think it address the reactions of folks if you take everything from them- utilities/ Medical help/ travel/ food. Life as you known it for centuries is gone. Then throw in fighting for your life, any little thing you can get out of the world. You now have to fight or hunt your own food. No help if you get hurt, no 911. You would end up with the strongest, the ones willing to kill or be killed. While the show address this it also address the “Are we becoming nothing better then the zombies?” I would expect more suicides then they have showed, to tell you the truth. I mean- why go on? But they do, and it shows the human spirit.

And can we take a second to do a shout out for the make-up and special effects? Stunning. And how they are changing the zombies as the show goes, loving it. The last show of water log ones… Freaking awesome.

And the locations- I would love to take photos of some of these places, made up or not. Put me in the old jail for a few weeks with a camera, would be happy.

There are so many people who won't entertain the thought of watching it because it's about "zombies". That's really ignorant of the big picture. It's so much more than that. It's an excellent storyline and study of humanity in different situations, great acting, the list is just keeps on going.

It's a wonderfully exciting show, and I look forward to it every week. This season is proving to keep that fire blazing.

That's why I always preferred zombies in the horror genre. Zombies are not the main focus of the story. It's about the survival of the humans who are still alive.

And finally, there's a show dedicated to long term survival in a zombie apocalypse. Not just an hour and a half thrill ride.

The Walking Dead has far surpassed everything that has been done before.

I think this season you will find a lot of characters ''Manning Up'', so to speak. They will be getting tougher and more 'Badass'!LOL! Not only do they have the Zombies to contend with - they have the 'Human' factor and the lengths that some will go to survive, even if it means preying on the other survivors, as well. I have not read the comics, though.~Mina

I agree 100% Mina.

The comic is basically the same, yet WAY more violent and raw. The content in the comic would never make it to the show 100%.

I haven't read the comics,but I am head over heels for the TV series. I like the new concepts and twists that are taking place,and by watching the Talking Dead,I get to hear how the comics and the show are coming together.

I also like watching and seeing how they outdo themselves with the special effects each episode.

I have not read the comics (yet) but I did watch the first season...lost interest after that.

I don't know about anyone else but, I really don't care about Beth Greene, what the story is behind her disappearance or where she is.

I am one (possibly the only one) who is hoping Carol is dead. I am also hoping that Morgan is the character who is with Daryl.

The termites are no more. To be honest, I wanted the dude in the ballcap dead even more than the leader. That guy was the one who was in that shack with Tyreese and the baby.

Bob is dead, no real loss there.

If the comics show through in the show, Eugene knows NOTHING about how to solve the walker issue and Abraham eventually finds this out. Why lie? Because, Eugene cannot defend himself and is using Abraham for protection.

Glenn and Maggie made a VERY poor decision to part with the rest of the group.

I don't want Beth or Carol dead- at the same time, I wouldn't miss them. They aren't really exciting to me beyond the drama Carol brought with her decisions and actions. We gravitate to people who have the best lines and character- they've never had that. No one is ever quoting Beth or Carol.

I liked Carol since the start. The way she has changed from the beaten woman, the loss of her child. Even the actions of teaching the 'children' durning story time to use knifes to defend against walkers *hmmm... wonder if that didn't bring out the evil in the one girl a lot faster, she was too young to be taught how to kill, that it is expected of her? ... see a debate. :) ****

Anyway- she has gone from one side of beaten down to the other of the one doing the beating.

I think of all the group- she is the one who has changed the most. Or at least the one we watched the change.

Beth- not a big loss for me either. I have never got into her story line because she doesn't have one. Even when she and Daryl has alone time- her story line was silly to me. He carried all those shows, she just kept getting in the way.

I know I'll get slapped for this but, I'm gonna say it anyway...

Daryl is also expendable (as far as the television series is concerned). Why? He doesn't exist in the comic book.

Daryl adds a little something to the show but, the survivors would get along just fine without his presence.

Rick's "right hand man" in the comic, is Andrea. Yes, she is still alive in the comic and is a COMPLETELY different character than she was on the show.

Also...

With the death of Dale and then Hershel, there is no wise old man in the group. This is an element that I did enjoy on the show and I am hoping that role is filled by Morgan. Not that he is an old man. LOL!

I think they added Daryl, because a live-action version of the story needs a little something more to keep an audience going. He and Merle gave more character and drama to the story- with spoken words and glances that can kill. Something that doesn't come across as much on paper. A long, crazy stare... held there, by a great actor. Such an addition that he's taken on as the most beloved, "If Daryl dies, were riot!"

I miss Dale and Herschel the most.

If Daryl dies, the show goes on.

I am sure they'd keep going, I am just sharing the viral quote out there- that's not mine. I think the show and the comic are very different entities attracting different crowds. I enjoy them both... but each have their own fan base and people that only watch the show couldn't give a rip about what only happens in the comic, you know? They have their own allegiance.

True. But the show borrows from the comic. Without the comic...no show. Thus, the comic is the true authority.

Hahaha! I know you're being loyal to the origin- I just see they've created a whole new monster (pun intended) with the show. They've added and taken things away, making it more powerful and popular than ever in live-action form. More people watch than read The Walking Dead. Those fans are all about what the show has brought to them- and for the majority, Daryl has gained the most fanship of all the characters. At Comic Con (I have an "in" there as my niece tours the circuit as a cosplayer and model), Norman Reedus is the constant headliner and the biggest ticket item for photo ops over every TWD character. I think he's great, but he's not my favorite. I'm just talking about the reality of the fans out there.

I think the comics need their props and appreciate the integrity of origin- but they are using it as "inspiration" for this television series. As you know, they have new characters and Have prematurely axed characters the comic had. This proves the TV version isn't giving too much of a rat's butt about what the comic's truth is. As a "goodie" they add in more of the comic storyline here and there, but they've been clear about making a unique animal for TV.

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Same with most movies based off books- they are different.
Most fans of the books fuss at the movie veering off, most movie lovers have never read the books.

Like you said, two different views.

I don't know if I would of ever, or ever will, read the comic books. Not a fan of them as they are kind of... dare I say it... limited to me on the visual and story line.


Happy Halloween All! :)

It's all good, fans of the show will never be "true" fans.

That is, fans of ONLY the show.

I'm a fan of both :)

More interesting than the show's focus on human behaviour under duress is the disagreement, pseudo agreement and tension between/among its fans.

*shakes head, chuckles

Anhk, these disagreeing fans are friends. So you aren't getting the tension you think you're getting.

*shakes head, no chuckle.

Back to the TWD! I'm really happy for Morgan to be back as well. That was a teaser back in season 3.

Oh, I agree. It's like "Cowbell" on Saturday Night Live.

"We need more Morgan!"

So Beth. Since I haven't read the comic books- I am taking the wild guess she is in a hospital *trailer shows this*. I am thinking that she is being held to breed the new race of humans?

Be a story line to look into. That and maybe how the babies born in this new world from parents who have the virus, how they could hold the cure in some way.

Beth Greene isn't in the comics. But, yes she is being held in a hospital in an undisclosed location.

I'm thinking the person who Daryl is calling to come out when he sees Michonne, is Noah.

Noah, is the young man who got away from the hospital when Beth tried to escape.

That could very well be. They did enough with his character in that episode that you feel he's going to be around, after.

There is also talk of Carol getting captured on purpose to find Beth. Thus, that would put Noah with Daryl.

Yep, I heard them talking about that on Talking Dead afterward.

It's a shame, in that hospital, they don't see females as a threat.

Poor poor fools. LMAO!!!

Seriously. In a "Zombie Apocalypse" setting, this is a flourishing ground for new insights and character to deal with the new realities. As The Talking Dead said, "Raised by Herschel, trained by Daryl, welcome the new Beth Greene!" Or something to that effect.

I was thinking more of Carol. I still don't see Beth as that big of a threat to anyone. Except that doctor, who's a sissy anyway.

That's true for Carol- but there was a time when Beth was such a pansy, she couldn't do anything. Now she's plotting and leading people to their deaths (and justifiably so).

Beth was a threat when she set that cop up as Zombie food. But like they said on the Talking Dead- the Walkers can be used for good.

I also think Noah will be seen again, and think Carol is there to help Beth while the rest of the gang is called in to help get her out. What I think Daryl is doing, getting the extra guns needed to end the bad cops.

Be funny if Noah is related to Morgan, maybe his Uncle he talked about.

That would be so cool if Morgan was his uncle!!!

LOL! Beth wasn't the threat, the walker was. Some real in depth planning there.

Things are getting a bit too obvious. I hope Morgan isn't Noah's uncle.

Not so much that situation for the dude getting thrown to the walker- she's changed in a lot of ways. She's not so frantic anymore. She's plotting, she's different, she's collected in walking away. Let's see what the next episode she's in brings :) She's nothing like the girl who wanted to say "bye bye cruel world" back on the farm.

That's very true however, they still need a strong character (first Daryl, now Carol) for her character to really be relevant or even interesting.

She has a fanbase. I get from the sounds of it you are not one :)

Just to be clear though- my answers here are based on following the millions of fans posting on Facebook in these TWD groups. It gives a lot of perspective about what people are thinking, wanting, and hoping from the show.

Personally, Beth isn't my favorite either. But I don't hate her and I do find value in her character.

What I like about having Beth on the show is the reality of all these different kinds of people. You aren't going to have a group of perfect badasses- you will have a variety of people with different gifts and flaws- each trying to manage their way through the chaos. The audience is just as varied- and they need to see things they can relate to. And that's why the show is different from the comic. A successful show demands an extra set of covered bullets. TV caters to far more when it's written- for better or worse in the world of subjectivity.

Still, absolutely killer season so far.

Yeah, and if every episode of The Walking Dead was like that episode, there would be no show.

Also, speaking of fan bases, the main fan base is and always has been, fans of the comic. Let's see how last night's episode (which was based on a character who isn't in the comic), fairs against next week's episode (which appears to center around those who split from the group and almost all of which are/were in the comic).

I'll bet anything that Hershel, Dale, Andrea and Shane had much larger fan bases. Why? Because they were characters in the comic and they had a fan base before the show.

Daryl is the only character to break this mold.

When Beth dies, I'll be doing happy dances. LOL!

They all did have larger fanbases. I was just pointing out she has one. I also pointed out she isn't my favorite, and maybe the least favorite. But my perspective is, my least favorite TWD TV show character is still a good one. She episode's rating didn't plummet. I'm not trying to convince you to rethink and like it :P But we all have valid opinions, and there were countless people who wanted to know where Beth was and where that would take us. All these different fans watch the show and keep it on the air. And I'm thankful for that. Tons of people only started reading the comic because they watched the show first.

As you pointed out several times- those that I find the most intresting to watch are not in the books. Not making me even want to read the books, really.

Bad thing about those who watched the show- the books are so different. You come from the books, to the show. I come from the show. It's Interview With A Vampire all over again.

Same coin but different side. Neither is right or wrong.

And I agree with Images- the show had to be gear toward more toward the interaction between different types of people. Why folks watch the show, cheer on the ones they see as how they would be in Walker Land.

Someone is going to die this year, already have with Bob. But you can't have the same group of folks (20?) from the first season, driving around in the RV. If this was real life- you would get bitten, sick, hurt, etc. And I like they are not afraid to kill of a much beloved person.

I appreciate both the comic and the show- but I watched the show first, which makes things not so disappointing when I then read the comic. Tons people who are reading the comic today watched the show first. Robert Kirkman (writer of TWD comic series) has been a guest on Talking Dead 8 times, and loves the show. When he puts his stamp of approval on it and enjoys what the screenwriters have done with it- you know there isn't a competition or a "right" way to enjoy it. Many times writers are disappointed with screen adaptations- but he's not one of them. In fact, he's also *part* of the TV show as a Producer. So, it's his show beyond his comic. Fanship of the comic and/or show doesn't have to be mutually exclusive to be loyal- when the creator is part of both and enjoys what's happening on the show.

Here's another video with Robert Kirkman (writer of the comic) and Scott Gimple (writer of the TV show) showing their camaraderie:

man gotta watch last epsode!Well stated all.

I have not read the comics myself, but I'm looking forward to more Walking Dead, even if it's completely new characters.

For the folks with some actual medical knowledge, would the pill crushing bit actually work? There were still huge pill chunks when she was drawing that dosage. I personally hated the Beth episode. All the others have been great this season, though. I bet it was the this is the Beth is probably gonna die this season episode.

I don't know if the pills can be crushed and injected like that, but it wouldn't have mattered anyway, as it was the wrong medication and led to the patient's death.

I have bashed this episode as well. However, to agree with those who have disagreed with me, I will say that I am willing to see where it goes. Beth certainly isn't the strongest character and has yet to show that she is the weakest (however debatable this is).

I had to remember that when season 1 episode 1 premiered, I was like WTF??? I was a bit disappointed, but I stayed with the series and now, it's the highlight of my week.

Perhaps, the Beth storyline will be the same.

Last night was a ... well... fun? great? ... sad show for me. You got to see Eugene face the music, his fears coming to light as well as the truth. Be interesting to see what happens to him now as far as the group reactions.

Abraham is hot! Sorry- but the man can deal. Watched the Talking Dead and he is flat out hot. :) Can't wait to see what happens now that he doesn't have a mission. And the reason the show was sad for me, seeing his history and how much of a blow Eugene lies will hit him the most.

Sorry- but Tara is still a wasted space for me. She is just... there. She gave nothing to the show last night, or to any show yet that I can remember. *points toward Tara* If someone has to die...

Firetruck water cannon- rocked!

Good episode and nice to finally get some answers on Eugene. Not sure how GI Joe is going to handle that though.

I have to agree about Tara, she is a waste on the show. What's with the whole "fist-bump" thing? Could she be any more lame?

I put Tara's importance on the show right up there with Beth.

Wait was Tara the "Piece of ass" Abe got?

No. That was Rosita Espinoza (sp). Tara was the chick who was with the governor at the prison fence when he killed Hershel.

So it's tgirl eugene told while watching Abe, and Rosita get it on? Yea she is barely window dressing.. I wouldn't hesitate to feed her to zombies to buy a little head start.

Yes, she's the one that was talking to Eugene when he was watching Abraham and Rosita.

Most of the acors are seasoned she seems less so in the acting department It has been interesting getting the performance background of some of the actors, by far the best actress is the actor that plays Mchionne. for that fact The Govoners actor was notable as well.

I'm a Glenn fan, myself :) Something has to be up with keeping Tara alive- the lone person from the Governor's crew- keeping the Governor's time on TWD a memory, maybe- maybe more. I try to keep my faith in the writers when I'm not sure. I'm not supposed to be sure of anything, I'm supposed to watch it play out and be flabbergasted. Rather we like certain things or not- they usually are important for other parts of the story, somehow gluing them together. If we enjoy the next episode with Daryl and Carol at this hospital, we know it wouldn't have been able to happen if it weren't for this Beth episode a couple weeks ago.

I am a Glenn Rhee fan as well.

I don't think The Daryl and Carol episode is about them at the hospital. I think the episode will explain how they got separated, thus explaining why Daryl went back to the group and Carol ended up at the hospital.

What's cool about Glenn is he was just this pizza delivery guy- thrown into a crazy experience, and how would he prevail? Well, we saw how he dealt with it when he and Maggie were captured and brought to Woodbury in season 3, ep. 7 "When the Dead Come Knocking ". That fight scene was one to rewind, and rewind.

Glenn represents the everyday person, perhaps even more over- the gamer nerd... could they fight like they make their characters fight on screen, lol... well, Glenn can :)

Glenn has been the biggest asset to the group. That is in the whole "quietly in the background" sort of way. He stands up when he has to and that, is what makes him remarkable. He's meek, but he won't get pushed around.

But, Glenn and Maggie together...unstoppable!

Yeah, it ties in nice with the 'Weak are Gone, Strong are left.'

Which has been a recurring all season to be honest.

I can't say that is accurate. Many very strong characters are gone now (the Governor, Andrea, Hershel, Merle Dixon and many more). While many weak characters remain.

I do agree with images that there must be a good mixture of characters. They can't, couldn't and shouldn't all be bad-asses. This would reflect reality.

I think Tyreese is the best mixture of strong and weak.

I see Tyress as fragile, and he snapped out of it (perhaps) during his last confrontation with the twit that took Baby Kick Ass hostage. Seems kike it takes being plunged into a mass of zombies for Tye to let loose. Lindsey was a fine example of when fragile minded go horribly wrong.

True, but Tyreese let that guy live.

True but I was speaking of him having to go outside , then creaming the group of walkers after having to let Carol kill a lone walker. I must have missed something I thought the guy was killed.

Nope, he hooked back up with his Terminus crew after that.

I like how when Tye goes off they cut away from him going berserker then in this case you get to see the after math. I bet that guys ears, ringed form hours after that beating, he must of had some major damage after that ground and pound from pissed Tye.

Yes, Tye is not one to miss with. He does the soft spoken, the hard core fighter.

Hershel- cried when he was killed.

Heck, I love the show and the great writing so much that when Merle got killed, it made me so mad. I didn't like him but he grew on me, seeing the changes. The Governor had to die just for that alone.

VW39 has hit a nerve. I too, was upset to see Merle die. I so wanted to see more from this character. Michael Rooker is a fine actor and could have brought so much more to the show.

Merle Dixon was changing, for the better. But, I do think the love affair that fans have with Daryl Dixon helped to spur on the death of Merle.

I really like how they are fleshing out the characters in the show rather than it just being about one big bad guy (governor). Its annoying, but they are doing a good job of somewhat "cliffhangering" episodes and then jumping to a different story the next one - keeps leaving me wanting more. Really strong season so far, possibly the best.

The walking dead is fiction? Now I'm really bummed out. Lol
Enjoyable topic Dabbler.

Yes, it is fiction, unfortunately.

Can't wait till Carol and friends tear that place apart. The Governors town was an Utopia compared to this setup and I wouldn't have thought the Cannibals would turn out to be the lesser evil of this season. I just hope they don't screw that up and kill her off.

I usually have something to post once I get the show watched but last week... nothing.

I liked the camping walkers, I liked how Carol open up a little. But really, that is about all the show was for me.

The Talking Dead was fun tho, some fun comments made.

I have seen up to season 5, because that is where Australia is up to. I dunno where the US is, so I didn't read a single reply lol.

I really like the direction The Walking Dead takes. I heard they were going to make another series in a different part of the world, and that would be awesome.

I heard about that, too. It would be great to have another show on to give us that "fix" when TWD wasn't on.

Yup! They are quite how I imagine a zombie apocalypse would be - so it would be awesome to see it from the perspective of a really heavily populated country (Japan, China, India or so), or from a crazy island nation, like Australia, which is entirely spread out.

It's something I really hope they go through with.

I totally love this show. I like most of the characters. I'd have to say that Daryl and Carol are my favorites. I hated the episode when they killed Hershel off. That was really sad.

Not watched it yet. But going by a few journals here- seems it is going to be a shocker. And tells me to stay off Facebook.

And it'll get posted here too- so you might want to stay away from this thread if you don't want it spoiled.

Watched it last night. BETH! But... maybe I was half way sleeping at that time of night but... why? Why did Beth do it? The wound she gave the woman wouldn't of killed her (?) and she had to of known it would of started a shXX storm, so...

I just don't see why she did it. Her life ended with no cause, nothing to show for it.

I understood when they took the young boy back that got away, and the comment of "I knew you would come back." just got her mad, but still... she died to make the statement, just not sure it was made.

And when they carried her out of the building, I cried. Poor Daryl. This might be as hard as the child found in the barn, more so as I think he really felt something for her.

So... is Zombie going to do that happy dance now?

I don't know what to make of that episode. Good half-season ender though. The show is staying strong and now Rick has come full circle to Shane-ness. Just took him three more seasons.

The utter explosion of her death being spoiled on the official TWD Facebook page, as well as, just in general- is indicative of her fanbase. I knew she had one, but holy crap on a cracker...

Beth could have offed the bitch cop when she was wrestling in the elevator area.. not very well thought out on her part.

On Talking Dead this week- it was confirmed the 'gang' moves on out of the great state of GA. The comment of "If you read the books, you know where we are heading." was made...

Care to share where they end up next?

"I gotta get to Washington DC."

But why go there when the 'save the world' plan was a lie?

I was making a joke that's why I put it in quotes.. I am joking that that is what Eugene says when he comes too after that serious TKO from Abe. I mean he was out for a good spell. I doubt he remembers spilling the beans.

I was sad that they killed Beth off. I loved it that Daryl shot the hell out of the bitch cop. He looked so heart broken that it made me cry, after the shock of seeing Beth get shot. When I watch the show, its like family. I've watched it for so long! The only character I wasn't fond of was Daryl's brother, and of course, the Governor.

Yeah, Beth is finally dead (big shock there). Every time they focus on a character (other than Rick), that character dies. The only thing that surprises me, everyone else was so shocked. You seriously didn't see this coming?

Daryl didn't get points from me.

Beth wasn't a character from the comic, no loss for me. Also, I haven't heard anyone swearing off watching the show for Beth, like they have for other major characters.

I think the more important topic of that episode was Morgan. He came across Rick's path at the church...will he find the group??? Spoiler...YES, yes he will.

Rember when he was crazy "Clear".

I assure you people are freaking out (I am not one of them). This is just one of the things that popped up yesterday alone:



I find this reasoning to be horseshit, personally. Men and women die alike in TWD. There are still plenty of female leads- and she was never a "lead", in my opinion. I think one of the biggest reasons behind this freakout is how she really laid it on thick on Talking Dead that night. I think she was incredibly unprofessional in how she veered off talking about the show into her personal life- crying over how she'd "built a life" where the show was being filmed, now she has to start all over and it was such a shock. This is the kind of thing that should hinder her from being hired in the future- because I wouldn't think producers would want an actor trying to rally the troops over their character's end like this. I'm so over her. But she's got a crap ton of fans getting pretty stupid over this in her honor.

Shows, especially one like this are a wildcard of a future. Anyone can go at any time- ask any of the other ones who's character had died off. That's the business you're in chick... learn it or get a new profession. And when you display a respect for your shot in the limelight, the opportunity you had to become famous- then you deserve to be hired again.

I anything she should be peeved at the writers for making her death so fucking wasteful, and dull.. I mean not the scene but the whole principle.

Scott Gimple made a good point about the death, and I see it's validity.

'Walking Dead' Fans Petition to Bring Beth Back

I thought I smelled Social Justice warriors in that Moo vement. In a way she did deescalate a very tense powder keg that will be known in the Chronicles as The Meeting.. she saved all those officers that cringed under the Bitch cop. Man I hate the "We are victims hear us be oppressed moo-vemnt." If the gaming industry disruption wasn't enough they want to parade their irrational demands to corporate network.. The same subversive element that crashed a major news conference during the Occupy movement (which was a good righteous protest) but a subversive group of ultra wingers cried over an act of alleged unwanted sexual advancement that story was covered and the actual cause lost its moment. Bring here back? SMH! Oh I know.. just don't stab her head she'll be good as new ...

I still don't understand the story line - I know they was showing her as a 'strong' woman but... why the hell would you stick a knife into the shoulder of the female cop? It wouldn't of killed her. Now- if she had reached out and sliced her throat... now that would of been a strong move.

Should wound? Weak.

And it left the female cop with the ability to react, to fall back on her training, to shot her.

I didn't like the way she died but didn't mind her being off the show. She was never anything but fluff for the show. Well... maybe a great baby sitter.

I just think it is a weak story line that should of been done better is all.

And yes- her crying on the Talking Dead, saying how close a family they were. And how she had to pack and move now... boo hoo. That did get on nerves. If she had been in front of me I would of said "Time to hit the Comic Conventions, milk that cow. Now stop being a cry baby."

personally i started liking beths character at the end of the last season when she was off with daryl. they seemed like they where taking her out of her self absorbed babysitting role and finally growing up and into her own.. when they brought her back this season in the hospital i knew there was something up, and she was probably going to die.. sure enough she did. i dont watch the talking dead and havent seen the interview..and really dont want to if she was just whining the entire time.

well first off
I am reader of the comics and a watcher of the show.

for me
my pleasure comes from seeing the main villains in the comic
shane. the governor and my all time favorite Negan.

now supposedly Negan is suppose to show up during this seaon 5 of the walking dead

the story in this season seems drawn out to me and not really going anywhere
the acting is great and great action

but i feel its lacking story depth compared to season 4.

supposedly Daryl will become a character in the comics.

as far as Beth death is concerned.
I was expecting her to become cannibal food in terminus
but that wasnt the case
and how she died made sense to me because her character always seemed to be brash and she was in fact suicidal in season 3
you could see the rage in her eyes when the cop lady said Noah had to stay
and i found her death to be pleasing
I never much cared for her
and all this nonsense about bringing her back
if that happens
i will sadly stop watching the show altogether.
it takes away the realism if the go back on character's death
main or not.
when your dead
your dead.
and frankly I am sick of people saying they will riot if daryl dies
go ahead and please riot like a moron so swat can shoot you
and please Robert kirkmen kill off that sissy daryl dixon
so we can move on from that buzz kill

but things are gonna get so exciting if they interduce Negan

I am rather going to enjoy watching Glenn get his brains litterly bashed out with a barbed wire baseball bat nick named lucile


fun times people
fun times;]

I can't give a toss about Beth. You'd think I'd be able to, but I've tried and I just. don't. care.

It's getting very old that people who should know better don't for the sake of dramatic tension. How many times will this group TRUST when they shouldn't ? Rick should also have popped bald cop and I have no idea why Daryl stopped him. Do these guys not REMEMBER kneeling down in front of a blood sink, waiting their turn ? It's the kinda thing that would stick in my memory. I'm also hoping that we see the first case of tetanus when it starts back up again.

i have noticed alot of fans for the tv show
hate rick crimes
well tough people
he will most likely only die because a bunch of the whining fans of the show will demand it to happen
rick is a resourceful and ruthless surivivor
and the only man in the story arc of the comic to make him truly paralyzed with fear is Negan.
dont get me wrong
i like glen and in fact i think he is one of the most valuable members of the group
for a while he was the guy who did almost all the supply runs before more people entered the group
he is a very talented scout
losing him should cripple the groups moral
and robert kirkmen just might be evil enough to the way he died in the comics in the show.
and by the way people beth is a character in the comics
she plays a very small part as she dies quickly
and yes there is a terminus in the comics

Sorry Sleeperking but, you may need to read the comic again. Here's a list of all of Hershel's family in The Walking Dead comics...

Maggie Greene - Daughter
Glenn - Son-In-Law (Deceased)
Sophia - Adoptive Grand-Daughter
Billy Greene - Son (Deceased)
Lacey Greene - Daughter (Deceased)
Arnold Greene - Son (Deceased)
Susie Greene - Daughter (Deceased)
Rachel Greene - Daughter (Deceased)
Shawn Greene - Son (Deceased)
Hershel Greene - Grandson
(Unknown) - Wife (Deceased)

There is a Beth Ford in the comics, but she is Abraham's deceased wife, not Maggie's sister.

The Sophia mentioned here is Carol's daughter. Sophia is still alive in the comic.

Also, the location "Terminus" is not in the comic series. The cannibals in The Walking Dead comics, were simply known as "The Hunters". There were six members of "The Hunters",

Leader(s) - Chris
Notable Members:
Greg
Charlie
Theresa
David
Albert

Location: The Hunters' Base

They were in issues 61 to 66.


*All information can be found:
http://walkingdead.wikia.com/wiki/The_Walking_Dead_Wiki

so is it possible that beth green is a representation of his wife?

I don't see how, as Abraham's wife was on the show briefly, a few episodes back. Not to mention, Beth Greene and Abraham never met on the show.

What is with the Beth petition anyway? I bet it was thought of and signed by, people who just cannot get over stuff. Not to mention, Beth's death shows what could happen in reality.

The petition says that Beth's story wasn't over yet. HELLO! Apparently her story was over, SHE'S DEAD!

The petition also claims that her death was to further a man's (Daryl's) storyline. This makes no sense, as it appears to me, it furthers Maggie's storyline more.

Don't get me wrong, I liked Beth well enough. I just don't feel she was a strong female character. Especially when compared to the other female characters on the show.

Seriously, you mean to tell me that Beth is as strong of a character as Maggie? Lori? Andrea? Carol? Do I even have to mention MICHONNE???

Beth, with her constant, "I don't cry anymore." Really Beth? Go on, keep saying it, I'm sure one day someone will believe it.

Beth put up walls, that's it. Strong characters are strong, walls or no walls.

She pushed a cop and let a walker do the dirty work.

Had a chance to kill Dawn and stabbed her in a place that wouldn't kill anyone!

Anyway, yes, I did my happy dance when she finally bit it. But, I will miss her character on the show.


Now, I am done with Beth and will say no more about this character.

The petition was put up by people who are ignorant of what they are watching. People DIE on the show. That's what it's about. And it's also about pulling the rug from under people. If they don't want to experience these things while watching, they shouldn't watch. Nothing compares to Lori's death and Rick's response. Yet no petition there. Lori and Andrea were far more bad-ass and lead ladies than Beth, yet Beth gets a petition? I am sure it's all due to the way she handled the Talking Dead interview. She was part of The Walking Dead family, and now she's gone... done and done.

well people the petition got worse

heres a link to a article confirming the resurrection of Beth green


http://nationalreport.net/amcs-walking-dead-agrees-bring-beth-greene-back-life/


when this happens.
the show will be over for me

but on a side note
if someone would be willing to kill the actress who plays beth green for reall
we wouldnt have to see one of tv's greatest shows ever to go to hell
because of a bunch of whining cunt rags.

I said it it is about the Social Justice Warriors always looking to crash established pop media, and established followings to press their agenda, an agenda that promotes being a victim, and empowering yourself as a victim. Thus their claim that Beth embodied their cause. The same people have faced off with the Atheist Conference circuit , and video gaming.

SLEEPERKING30, you've linked a satire website, it's like "The Onion". It's fake news, comedy. Beth is not being resurrected in the show.

ok thank you imagesinwards
i am so glad that its fake because i hate to see one of the greatest tv shows of all time get ruined by that
and did anybody catch the article about people sending spoons to the walking dead writers to bring beth back
its getting rather ridiculous I think

It'll die down soon enough. Just like Beth. lol

I surely hope Beth is not coming back or they may lose me as a viewer..that would just ruin the show if they somehow made this all a dream ..

She isn't... That was a fake news site link.

Any ideas on the second half of season 5? Anything you want to see in particular?

I know I wanna see where the Morgan storyline is going. I know what happens in the comics but, the show is different.

I can't wait for it to start up again. As far as the Beth thing, I agree that once she showed up at the hospital, that was it for her. I did like her character. No offence to the haters. There is so much change going on in the show. I'd bet its safe to say that the remainder of the season will be very popular. I know I'll be DVR-ing it.

I didn't hate Beth's character, I just really disliked the way she went out in real-life. I feel she threw the show under the bus and has no real understanding of it to have had that kind of reaction. There have been *amazing* actors that only had one season, a part of one, or just a little more that have praised the show and the honor they had being a part of it. That's the way to be.

I have to agree with images here. Crying because you are going to miss the people you were working with, is understandable. But blubbering on about having to move and stuff like that, is just unprofessional.

When Lauren Cohan (Maggie Greene) was on 'Talking Dead' she cried a bit about the loss of Scott Wilson (Hershel Greene) from the show. But, she didn't ramble on about her personal b.s..

I don't put what Emily Kinney (Beth Greene) did up there with the stupidity of Marilyn Manson, but she's close in my book.

And again, I didn't hate her character, she served a purpose on the show. I just thought she was weak and in the end, she was.

Remember way back in season 1, when Rick first meets the gang and the have to get the guns he dropped? They smeared Walker guts over themselves and were able to walk among them without issue. Is there some reason that they don't do this ever again? When they need the medicine to operate on Carl back at the farm, it would have been easier to just walk in using smeared walker guts.

If you remember, Shane and Otis weren't with Rick and the rest who smeared walker guts on themselves.

Also, Carol did that in the first episode of season 5.

Also Michonne (sp) and morgan do the full body cover to avoid the dead, michonne even herds them using a maimed walker as an ally.

Sadly,I haven't read the comics,though I would like to. And as of right now I miss the series very much...lol even though they killed My Beth!

(grumbles)

Most laugh the show off entirely stating that zombies will never happen. And maybe they won't. But I have to say the the mix of fear,the unknown,and conjecture all mixed together can seriously give one to think about...and the human dilemmas and trials in said environment are both heartbreaking and catastrophic.

The Walking Dead is awesome. Hands down.

While the show is about Zombies- it can’t be all about them. I mean, other then moaning and walking about, what else can they do? I enjoy the show because the humans are being hunted, stalked, always at risk. No electric, no cell phones, no computers, no communications. No governments, no 911, no help in any way other then what you give yourself unless you are in a group. No police, no military so when you run into cannibals, you got to take care of that on your own.

But then I have always loved disaster movies- be it tornadoes (Movie Twister) to sinking ships (The Poseiden Adventure). So yes- there is zombies, but the human element and how they fight to stay alive in a world that is changed so much.

Could you live in that world? Myself- not fit enough. One slow walking zombie would catch me, make a meal and a half out of me. The growing your own food, cooking over a fire, gun toting I could do. But walk for days on end without much food or water- nope, I would be zombie food.

I can't wait to see how Maggie reacts in the next few shows. I mean- she lost her dad, and sister in a time line of a few weeks??? And both at the hands of humans, not even the zombies.

This is true,VW. I think some of us;myself included,have become too reliant on certain things..such as public assistance,etc,and to be cut off and on our own would cause many to fall immediately.

I too, could deal with the gardening,and the other 'roughing it' aspects,but as for trying to fight my way out of a group of zombies,or even entering a dark building and suddenly being surprised..'that's' what would get me.

I like the way they portray certain things in the show because it makes you sit back sometimes and really think of what you,yourself,would do if it were you in that situation.

And this doesn't just pertain to zombies..I'm also a fan of the disaster movies,with The Day After Tomorrow being at the top of the list.

Yeah, but they should be doing it a heck of a lot more.... although, if you read the comics, it does seem that doing it too often might desensitize you too much... so maybe that is why they do not smear walker guts on them too often.

Also, when was the last time any of them were clean? Why add to the nastiness?

Plus, this isn't necessary for every situation.

I agree Zombiman. They sure do not seem to bath too often and could you imagine what Walker Guts must smell like...