i would like to add,i always looked at alchemist as such individuals who knew how to manipulate nature with certian properties but as i have grown i tend to look at these individuals as Great Illusionist.
what the hell is a alchemist??? well if any one know would u to messages me telling me what it is ?
an alchemist can turn ordinairy objects into amazing things,they also have the ability to use their mind over matter.in the past legends and myths have been made by such things that alchemist have done is it true or not..i would not know for a surity but it is interesting to say the least.
I would like to say something about alchemists.
Firstly an alchemist is a form of scientist. They research minerals and chemicals so much that they combine them to create desired effects.
The idea of the philosophers stone being created by a powerful alchemist is pure falicy and a myth conjured by those who did not understand the rudimentary basics of alchemy.
An alchemis is much like a true chemist of today. A chemist (as in someone who makes the various commercialised drugs that are available today and not just the person who dispenses them) will combine certain chemicals and elements to create effects. However, with this said, a true alchemist will not only search for solutions to specific problems, they will also use their arts to determins the next question.
I believe that the person who discovered penecillin, paracetamol, and other pain killers and antibiotics would have been alchemists.
I strongly suggest that others actually research this in more detail before they make judgements.
Links to appropriate websites are:
Alchemy in the Middle Ages
Alchemy
Alchemical Symbols
I don't think alchemy is as much in the spotlight as it was in earlier times. Nonetheless, I feel certain that their are more alchemist than you think. Be patient, there seem to be a number here.
They should respond shortly.
I studied a bit of alchemy, its fascinating but so far it is a bit to much taking for me to persuit this field but in a near futur I might, it is a science, as this si how I see it, that fascinate and I ma sure it can give great asset to the sociaty, one with open mind can get alot of knowledge out of science and alchemy is one of great knowldge
i think there are still ppl who practice alchemy. im sure its not as well known because its not a popular science. society tends to ignore things that defy what we all ready know and keep it in the darkness. but im sure there are alchemists out there.
i believe there are those who do practice alchemy..just as we practice wicca. vampirism and lycanthrope (sp?) the old ways have never really died out..they are still around...may have to look a little harder for them but they are still here.
I didn't think Alchemy was still going on.
Think it might be pushing it a bit to call it science.
i think personally that alchemy to this day is one of the arts where the true techniques are hidden and still deeply rooted in thee occult i think their societies are rare and small but as will all great things you must search and discover for yourself.
Hidden secrets? Underground groups? Funny.
Alchemy went occult because you can't turn ordinary objects into gold. I highly doubt anyone is working with quick-silver any more and adding it into potions. It had its day and now is dead. Chemistry came out of it. Granted it is cool to think of someone mixing and brewing things but really. As for the deceit and secrecy, it was for a good reason. It was a good job at the time but if you didn't have some results, you lost more than your job.
The old alchemists are to chemists today like the witches / healers are like doctors today. They tired to work with various minerals and metals but didn't understand the scientific method and what happens at the molecular level.
I would note that our British friends call a chemist what we call a pharmacist in the states.
Well, from what I understand, alchemy was "atempted" back in the old days. With the things that are known now, it's basicly been deamed impossable.
All I thaught Alchemy was, Was the art of changing something in to something else using the same matrials but differnt properties of the materials.
I see I was wrong...and the Symbols Maniferous posted.....Many are used today in almost the same meaning.
The Egyptians made a mix of metals that looked like gold … some greedy westerner took the idea back …. The church burnt those who went against gods nature.
Funny alchemy is just that lol only the church stood to get gold as much as they could so this form of magic was allowed …. Funny old world … bit like famous people getting away with murder
Alchemy evolved into modern science,they go about reaching the result in different ways...but still the same journey
The majority of alchemist wanted to make gold, but their are no cases of someone doing it that i know of, and their are probably people who still practise alchemy but youll probably never hear about them because it is not mainstream anymore...
menerfecious,you took the words right out of my mouth.
Also,if there is still doubt it is going today,take a look at Zirconian.
I am sure it is still around, as other forms of science. But, it really isn't needed as much, since many of the compound items that were once created, can now be aquired with greater ease.
I must say that i still perform some alchemical things, but most of the old style alchemy is long dead since the arts of chemistry and physics branched off.
However, anyone who is a physicist or chemist is indeed a form of alchemist.
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well...one way or another almost everyone can create an alchemy performance and not even know about it
but yet i would have to say that it is a state of mind even tho some people would like to use it for physical charectoristics
it was back in merlin's time where that had all begain and then started to branch off into different countries and prectices
Alchemy is the use of magic combined with chemistry, or at least thats what i have been told. practice is relatively rare but it exsist
The only thing I know about alchemists is that it's not as romantic as everyone makes it out to be.
It's not take glass, poof, now you have a diamond...
Its more.
Alchemy isn't practiced necessarily as MUCH as it used to be, but that doesn't make it any less powerful than it's always been.
Alchemy IS practiced more and more everyday, we just don't call it "Alchemy" or "Alchemists" anymore.
It's called Science and scientists nowadays.
Alchemy is the study of mixing different chemicals together to see what reactions you can get from them.
Alchemy is practiced everywhere..... How do you think different kinds of paints are made? Such as epoxy paint for example, if you mix the wrong compound with the "base" epoxy, then the paint never heats up and dries. Now, how do you think people found out what chemicals to mix together to make this work? And this is just one example.
Household cleaning products would be another good example, as most medicines are good examples as well.
There are "alchemists" everywhere.
good pint made "TheAlmighty13" i always wondered to the alchemist what atracted you to becomming one....
Go to your local library and check out a book on Alchemy no better way to learn then to read and I agree with
TheAlmighty13 that modern day science is Alchemy and If he wouldn't of recognized I would of posted it despite the ridicule.
I have to agree with Almighty13. Alchemists are now called scientists. Historically alchemists were considered mysterious because they blew things up. Mixing compounds can be a dangerous thing! lol
As a science teacher I can say that scientists today are doing the same things that alchemists in those days did. Historically scientists mostly did physical/earth science, not chemical science. Today, science has branched out to include all the genres.
alchemy has to one of the oldest arts that has a rich history i would love to learn more myself in this area i find it quite interesting to say the least...i think it is possible back in early times for alchemist to claim to be doctors or even in a higher level of conciousness because of the abilities that they had.
alchmey isiant the fanstey of making led into gold its not posible yet alchemy is knowing the compouston of raw mattral and how to make somhting out of it
i think that alchemy may stil be practiced today but not as much as it use to be
i feel that this practice is more about the transformation of matter than it is of illusions
Ah finally an interesting thread, BloodX :)
I think the alchemists had their big time in the middle ages of course, yes today they also exist, but not much as than, beside i think today they are no more so stupid illusionist like in the middle ages, i don`t think they still believe that it`s possible to find the "wise stone" to turn metal into gold and such stupid things
I also would agree that alchelmy today is more than eye of bat and hair of dog kinda thing. Metaphysical magicks come into play these days.more so than just using drugs, chemicals, roots, etc.
I combine chaos magicks with my roots and berries*grins.
Alchemy is practiced.
I cannot say it is a lost cause, as I don't know much about it..
but only few I know practice it.
i believe it to just be secretive and hidden..i know individuals do practice it but it is something that one has to search hard for to find it is not easily handed to you.
I don't think Alchemy is practiced as much anymore as it was but at the same time our views on such things have changed and evolved..... but I will look into this further....
All life is a form of Alchemy, the blending of spirits to create from nature.
All things, how you interact with anything, with even but a thought is a chemical process that creates a result that nature yields. You just have be observant enough in your actions to be able to tell whats going on.
Alchemists may call themselves different things. They may be chemists, researchers, pharmacists, brewer or botanists. Or they may be witches, grave robbers, healers, toxicologists, herbalists or the "crazy old woman who lives on the hill". In the EPOCH world an alchemist is anyone who collects ingredients and creates potions of some sort.
I am utterly amazed how the same conversation can be had repeatedly in quick succession with absolutely no regard to the fact that you are merely repeating yourselves.
Someone should take the natural state of this forum post, and combine it with the logical conclusion of reading the entire post, putting some thought into the original question as well as taking into account of the opinions and notions put forth since the original, and then formulate a response only if you have something to add to the conversation. You may find a different beast altogether that is more than it's sum parts.
That is true alchemy, Watson.
i agree so why don't you add something to the forum post rather than talking about other post in this section i would enjoy a great deal if you could enlighten yes even further this discussion do you have some sort of wisdom that you can offer up to the table or mere opinions that are stale.
(did I respond to this yet?) Physical alchemy like turning lead to gold... Started out as what we now consider chemistry. And though completely unstable I'm sure, it might be accomplushed in some of the physics labs they have in Switzerland or something. (wow, that sounded ditzy) But there is the whole spiritual alchemy and evolution of self to achieve Ascension or immortality that interests me far more.
Nope, nothing to add.
Just made an observation. Now, if I were to express a personal opinion that mirrored that of one that has already been mentioned, that would be hypocritical.
Homey don't play that.