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Aliens have been said to be on this planet way before people came about. Usually, everyone has always known aliens as these little green creatures with a big head and a rather small body.

This has always been the image of an 'alien'.

My question is, do you think an alien that we know would evolve, or stay the same way forever? Do you think our view on aliens would change in the future?




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Sure, most living beings or creatures would have to adapt to their environment thus change. Also I think the more familiar something became the more accepted it becomes.. Equal rights for aliens are not too far fetched.



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As far as I know and have researched, people have seen aliens under practically one image for hundreds, if not thousands of years. (Green, short, black eyes.. ect).

So I'm wondering if aliens are just imagination or something indeed living and striving, and something that has been to Earth.

Though, imagination could also evolve..



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Actually I am not sure about that. I would believe they would evolve like everything else does in life. But then again they could not there is not a sure answer.



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Well, evolution would probably only occur if the need to adapt was present. So, if something was already totally adapted to its environment would it really need to evolve? Would it evolve even if it didn't need to? I'm really not sure.

Also, I have heard of more than just the "grays." They just happen to be the most well known.



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Well, more than just the "grays" as you say Jack, would be all the details ect. The main image of an alien we all know. If there was any adaptation present in the aliens people "see" over the years, people would have documented them and I'm sure they would be seen in the next alien movie or something.

And yes, I think every living creature would evolve in one way or another. If aliens are indeed 'living creatures', they would evolve. They would be forced to unless they are perfect, which obviously aliens are not.

I have thought for a while though.. aliens are a lot like God, in many ways...

But that's for another discussion. =)



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The view on what is an alien will probably change in the future, as what people usually think an alien would look like.

However, if indeed a real alien looked as what most people portray them to be [short, green, et cetera] it's possible that they can evolve just as humans and animals and plants do.

But, that also depends on if it is possible for alien evolution considering their whole different genetic structure.



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I would think that they would have to adapt and evolve also, unless they've already somehow reached the ultimate biological perfection. Which seems unlikely to me.



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For hundreds of years the alien image practically hasn't changed. What makes you think it would in the future, Nocna?



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There's the possibility of real alien discovery in the future with the advancement of technology and such. If such a thing like that were to happen it would most definitely change peoples opinions on what an alien looks like.

But if there happens not to be something as proof of actual alien existence in the future, peoples opinions on what something looks like can be influenced easily. Such as, a widely popular comic strip or a world wide television show.



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Just because the image of aliens hasn't changed for hundreds if not thousands of years doesn't mean that they don't evolve. Take a look at the human race and how little its evolved over the past few millenia.



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Nocna, so are you saying people haven't really discovered aliens yet? If so, then how do you know they exist at all? How do you know people will discover aliens if you're basically saying that no one has seen one yet?

PS - I think people have evolved a whole lot.



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Yes, mentally people have evolved and devolved though the centuries, but our bodies haven't. Think about how you would physically describe a human to a visitor from another planet. Has that physical description changed much in the course of human history? No, not really.



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There have been more than one type in the public eye. Such as the nordics, reptilian and praying mantis style as well as a few others. There is also supposedly sub categories of each. Here is one link I found after a quick google search.

http://www.telealtobut.it/ufo/e.html



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I don't believe anyone knows if aliens are real or not. As far as I am aware there have been no alien bodies recovered or proof of alien ships aside from people claiming alien ships are kept in 'Area 51'.

Also, I never said people would discover aliens in the future. I said there is a possibility, and thats pending on if they truly exist or not.

However, I think most people believe in the existence of what we call aliens as they say we cannot, in all its billions of light years, be alone in this universe.



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ND, you may see it that way because you are a person yourself. It would be a lot easier to see an evolution of a different creature other than your own race. Just like if you would live with your brother, lets say, all your life. If you would live with him all your life, you wouldn't see him change at all probably. But if you would stop seeing him for 10 years and then see him, you would see he looks completely different.

It's the same way with any living creature and evolution.



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Well Jack, that's not really evolution of an alien. That's more like different species of alien, isn't it? It's probably more imagination than anything.

Nocna - If you say people haven't seen any real aliens, then there can not possibly be ANY chance of people discovering such a being in the future (as we know aliens now), because they simply don't exist. So it's either you believe aliens really exist and people have discovered them already (as we know them), or they don't and we will never discover an 'alien'.



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Very well, then enlighten us. If you say that the human race has physically evolved over the last few millenia, tell us how. Have we as a race become taller, shorter, more muscular? How has the physical description of the average human changed?



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They are changing as we speak and slow evolution of any species seems to be the norm.



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We have evolved simply by the genes given to us by our ancestors. They evolve us physically, emotionally, spiritually, and every other way. Our planet changes everyday, and with that, people adapt and change aswell. If you say we haven't changed "lately", then how have we changed at all then? Are you saying people have not evolved at all? People are evolving each and every day, even if it's not visible to the naked eye. After 100 years though, you would see a change. Leave for the moon then come back to your home time in 100 years and find out. ^__~



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It depends on who you ask.

If you ask someone who depends specifically on proof of alien existence, they'll say aliens aren't real. And in that way, there will be no possibility of discovering aliens to them.


But then if you go by those who say they've seen aliens and UFO's or have been abducted, then to them there will be a possibility of discovering aliens.



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Those who have "seen" them and those who "believe" in aliens basically have the same image of an alien. You can't say something exists, but it doesn't...

Do you honestly think aliens are someone's imagination, or do you think people have actually discovered them, Nocna?



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every thing evolves over time, plain and simple even now were evolving people are being born with their ribs closer together ect.



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Gregory, I am not disputing the fact that the human race has evolved/is evolving. I'm saying that over the course of human history the base physical description of the human race hasn't changed a whole lot, just like the base description of aliens hasn't changed a whole lot over the course of history.

I don't doubt that alien races haven't evolved or are still evolving. What I AM saying is that because humans haven't seen a lot of physical changes because of evolution, why should we expect aliens to?



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I believe either is possible.

You see, people have pictures of 'UFOs' from back before pictures could be edited by a computer.

But then again, there are no proof of alien bodies or UFOs that have crash landed on Earth. And also there are so many stories and such that could have led to the people thinking they saw aliens and the like such as 'War of the Worlds' that they could have just been thought up by that.



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I'm going to repeat myself and say because aliens are not of our race, ND. Aliens don't visit us every day, do they? We're not neighbors with aliens, are we? Aliens are a "rare" thing on Earth, so when they come every 10 years or so, I would expect to see some changes in them, because I haven't seen an alien in 10 years. We, however, have not changed our basic image of an alien for hundreds of years. Have aliens been exactly the same for hundreds of years?



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So are you confused about the existance of aliens, Nocna? I personally believe aliens do exist, just not the way we think. I don't think they look anything like we think they look. But, I do think other life forms really exist and have visited Earth several times, and if we have really discovered them, they would have been seen evolved over the years and that would have been seen in cartoons, books, movies, ect.



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I believe that anything that has a thought process can evolve. They had to figure out how to get to Earth and keep going as they are, so yes if they exist, I believe they can evolve.



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And what I'm saying, Gregory, is why wouldn't they look the same, or leastwise simular enough where our basic understanding of what they look like stays the same?

I'm not disputing that they would evolve or change somewhat, but for extreme physical changes to occur in a species, it usually takes tens of thousands of years.



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Many people believe that aliens have been on Earth before people, or even dino's, as I said in the description of this Thread. However, the image of the alien has practically been the same since we first "discovered" them.



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That I am. There are so many possibilities out there as to what aliens truly are or if they exist or not. To me it's just a wait and see thing.



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I agree with it being a wait and see thing very much. You don't know for sure till you have proof, obviously.



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I believe when we finally "prove" an outer-space being on this planet, it will be a completely different creature than what we think an alien looks like.



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Yes, Gregory, aliens may have been on the planet before people, but do we have pictures of what they may have looked like before people? No. Why? There was no one to draw or take them.

The image of the alien hasn't changed yet because aliens probably haven't changed a whole lot yet. Once again I say, it takes millienia for a species to evolve any drastic physical change, and they usually need a reason to do so.



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I think aliens have been depicted on those stone thingers from ages ago. Just like animals, god, trees, people, beasts.. and so on. That was a few thousand years ago. To this day, aliens still have the same general figure. No great changes have been seen on aliens in thousands of years.



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Exactly, but just because their physical bodies haven't changed, doesn't mean their brains haven't "evolved" or adapted to the rigors of deep space travel.



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Yes all speices Evolve its living right or we talking about the stuff in books?? Scifi stuff ?? Becuase I doubt highly that aliens are little green men or ever really have been we don't know what they look like hell they could be my great uncle Fred for all I know



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Why? Has your great uncle fred been take part in alien like behavior? (sorry, just kidding)

No, real aliens may not be "little green men" or "grays" but they just might. Their own home environments may have caused them to evolve into that state over millions of years because that may very well be the best way to survive on their home planet.

So far, scientists have been unable to find a planet that is EXACTLY like earth, so why would aliens from those other planets look like us? They'd probably at least look a little different.



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But everything must evolve in order to change with their surroundings or they will die out.



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If aliens really do exist, then I believe that they would have had to evolve just like every other living thing, or they could be like cockroaches, not much evolution there.



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Yeah well, cockroaches don't really have to evolve. They're already pretty well suited to their environment.



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Well basically everything has to evolve in order to live in this ever changing world.



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very true



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If aliens had their own different world, and that world isn't ever-changing, then there would hardly be any need for them to evolve would there?



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This is also a point; however, the universe as a whole is ever changing as a result of the big bang, so why would a single world be immune to such change?



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Because many times things don't change for thousands or millions of years. And sometimes its possible for something not to change at all over the course of years.



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Good point



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I think that over time all things will evolve, including aliens. As time goes on the world changes. In order to survive the creatures living on the planet will have to change in order to survive.



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So during the time that humans have known that aliens exist, it is possible that the supposed alien world has gone through very minimal changes, therefore the way humans perceive the aliens has been pretty much the same since little evolution takes place.



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BM -

Have we humans ever known if aliens exist or not? Most talk of their existence is hear say.



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Very well might be. For all we know, the alien evolution process is a million times slower than ours..



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If Aliens are indeed "real", then I don't see why they wouldn't evolve.
Everything evolves sooner or later.

As far as the notion that all Aliens are little green men with big eyes, then I'd have to see proof myself to believe such a statement.
Wouldn't all of our visitors have to have come from the same place to all look exactly the same way?

I believe Hollywood has played a huge part in that perception of how a Alien looks.



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It is very hard to prove that aliens do exist, but those who claim to have witnessed them describe them in similar ways. So they could either be telling the truth and aliens really look the same way that they are often being described, or they could be attention-addicts that just describe the usual alien because everyone else does and therefore it makes it more difficult to prove they're lying.



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well as we have seen through time nothing stays the same forever. so i believe that they would indeed evolve.



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has anyone actually met an alien?
i dont think so.............
as far as things evoving,,,,,,,,, yes i think anything can evolve



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The people who have supposedly been abducted supposedly have.



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Is we have or had been visited by aliens of some form or another, intelligent or not, I believe that they would eventually evolve if they remained and lived long enough.

The earth evolves, the creatures and plants on the earth are evolving, as well as the resest of the universe is evolving.

Aliens would be subject to the same changes.



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i hoped that if aleins were here they would kinda look like us and do the same things as us..wouldnt you think...?



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i agree i would think they would look and act like us so not to get caught



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VW39
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TheShining1 -

It's possible that they could look like humans. But wouldn't you think they'd be distinguished in some way?



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It's hard to say because if you actually believe in aliens, it doesn't have to be the conventional small body big headed green alien... There could be all sorts of different looking aliens. I'm not saying that aliens are real but the universe is so vast and expansive that aliens couldn't really have one look... I think that the media just portrays a small green alien for merchandise and that sort of thing...
As for aliens evolving, no one is to say because no one really knows for sure. Of course there have been many legends or myths that aliens are among us and they can disguise themselves but that seems more of fiction to me... Er, science fiction. There could be some logic behind it but the possibilities are endless.



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Everything evolves over time, I would think that intellegence has little to do with evolution or age, maybe these aliens are what we used to look like he he...



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I agree with UTAHVAMP that everything evolves over time, and yes our views would change as we gained more knowledge about the aliens and their way of life.



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Everything need sto evolve in order to survive. As new problems arise, average temperatures change, species levels vary etc everything needs to evolve and change to suit.



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jahlovleyone
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Yes, All species throughout history show evolution. So aliens, in my mind, are just as likely to evolve, for the continuity of the species.



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Yes. I think that all things adapt to new living environments through evolution that aliens would too....



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I believe they would evolve exactly in that way in wich they are conducting their phisical and mental capacities, and of course, those would increase/evolve with time, wich would of course give every species, depends on their phisical and mental conduct, their own distinguishing phisical appearance/features.



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i agree with wensala



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Theshining1
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NocnaMora maybe so ... but i have no real clue cause ive really never seen any aleins yet that i no of...



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I would presume that any living creature in the universe evolves... and that would include any sentient alien species. No matter how advanced a species is - it is always evolving...

... also remember, evolution is not moving with an "end state" in mind... it is constant adaptation to conditions...



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As Evolution is defined as being universal then, if factual, it would apply universally to everything... including aliens. If however Evolution is not factual, then the question is made moot.



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Im pretty sure the humans picture of an alien will change in the future in 1 way or another.



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if the evolution theory is as darwin stated...then yes any organism would have the ability to evolved, alien or not.



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oh thats definatly possible... as we evolve so do our minds and with it our imagination.



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I think that most life evolves. Most life forms have to in oder to survive. So yes I think that aliens would evolve.



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Humans evolve, why not aliens? We all come from somewhere.



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well as many have said they are always descriped the same ...so yes i belive they can evolve like anything else but what if they already are perfect? I mean look at the crocodile nothing realy have changed in the last millions of years so if there indeed where aliens as in from another planet the already have mastered time/space/dimension travel and it could be possible that they have reached the final stage..maybe and thats why the always are descriped as the same



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For everything there is evolution, If in fact aleins were here they would evolve like everything else. plants,animals and this earth all have gone thru changes over the course of mother earth life.



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I agree, evolution is a survival method programed into each living species. Whether the evolution is mental or physically, I beleive, is dependent on the requirements of the environment.



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If "programmed into every living species" then does this not beg the question: who did the programming?



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UP has a point, brings up the question of devine intervention.



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Are there really such things as aliens?



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I think the answer is 42.


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everything evolves over time. No matter what it is it adapts to its environment some times it take longer then other time but it happens so yes..



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Aliens do not exsist is my oppinion



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MistressBloodDiamonds
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DemonicVampireDragon

Alien (biology), a term for an introduced species

IE, any thing unknown to us at this current time.

And really if you think that this little tiny back water planet is the only one that sparked life on it. You really are living in a black hole some where.



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I believe if we can evolve I think aliens can do so as well.



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definately like anything else on this planet, they would evolve into something better....



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Lets just say that aliens do exist. They would be natural, organic beings such as us and animals. So logically they would evolve to suit changes in their environment. Unless, of course, they believe in some Alien creationist theory... XD



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I dont think they would adapt and also dont think that our image of them will change



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Only evolve if needed. Why change a good thing. And there is more than grey out there with so many planets.



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i think that aliens will advance as the time goes, just as everything else does



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I think they would evolve, look at us over the years we evolved from caveman to who and what we are today. I would guess any alien life form out there would be the same, after all we do all learn and grow over time



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I believe all life forms evolve over time... whether human, animal or alien. It is the way of the universe really.



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Everthing evolves



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Everything evolves over time, as we gain knowledge we move onto another level I would guess aliens would be the same.



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So what if aliens have changed there looks in ages, mankind hasnt really changed that much over history either, yes we have lost a lot of hair and have learnt to stand up straight but thats about all (unless we go right back). However we have learnt to do things from the bending over to walking upright, from walking to flying planes the list goes on and on....thats evolution, we learn and progress.



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well intresting

but i think all thing have to evolve



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if there are real then yes i think that they themselve could and would evolve but our image of them wont untik we see one



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I am a great believer in evolution and I can't imagine it being any different in any environment that has life in it, but you have to remember it takes a really long time. Humans haven't changed in millennia, most people wouldn't be able to tell apart a neanderthal from modern man on the street. Any alien changes would probably take an equally long time.



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