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DestructionOfDeath
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I know that the main weaknesses of a fictional vampire is the sun.

But do you think there could be any others besides sun, silver or holywater, stakes and are they mentioned in literature or another source of information??

Also, how do you think these and other weaknesses were found??




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I know that things that are weaknesses to the fictional vampire are not true with a real vampire. I have no fear of holy water, garlic, sunlight (I do have to wear sunglasses though), etc.

I like the stake-through-the-heart thing. That would kill ANYONE, not just a vampire.



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lol I have to agree with that a stake to the heart would kill anyone not just vampires but who knows maybe there are other ways that we just don't know about we only know what we read about in books by people who heard stories from other people and what we see in the movies



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The only extra one I remember of and that you didn't list is garlic.



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DestructionOfDeath
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Thank you for the garlic input I did forget it V.

And do you think it would be possible to make freal vampires immune to the weaknesses they have being ordinary humans using the technology we have today?



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Well we do immunise humans against allergens every day for allergies so it might be possible but the question is do we really want to cure their weaknesses and help them become invincable.
There was also the whole "not being able to enter a home without being invited in" weakness/concept.



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I believe and agree the stake thru the heart kills anything....but in the question of weakness...perhaps the opposite sex would be a logical link to weakness.



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greyinmind
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i heard that a vampire's main weakness is actually sunlight. they're supposedly not dead if they go in sunlight, just very much weakened.



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DestructionOfDeath
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Darkness do you say that because they have not been in the sun for a long time?



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The old legends say running water, I'm pretty sure.

And I don't think anything can survive a shotgun blast through the chest or head.



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I agree with sunlight because its a worse thing vampires hate because they love the darkness, As everyone klnows vampires are immortal and dead and when a person is dead including people we or in the dark



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DestructionOfDeath
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What do you mean by running water Krytick?



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I think wanting to tell someone who and what you really are could be a weakness. We all want someone to confide our secrets too. Vampires being immortal living for many centuries have many good tales to tell but no one to listen.
A need to ease the loneliness.


I also remember something about dirt. Dirt of their birth place? They have to carry it with them or they can't rest? I know I read about it in a book called "Silver Kiss," But thats been years ago and it was a bit of a love story.


I've also wondered about the moon. I mean it gets its light from the sun. So its just a big dull reflection of the sun. Not say this is a weakness, but its something that I, myself have wondered about.



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Kryptick
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I should have elaborated on that, lol, thanks wolfkiller.
Supposedly if you scattered a vampire's ashes in running water it would prevent them from coming back. As if the fire wasn't enough to kill them, or it was but they could regenerate.



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I've always found it interesting that vampires can't enter a house without being invited. It's definitelly a big weakness but once they're invited once they can come back in as many times as they want.



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What I think ~Krytick~ means by running water, is that the vampires in old folklore feared crossing streams as well as rivers. Although I really do not think a vampire would have any trouble jumping over a mudd puddle.

One very strong weak in my opinion, one of which has been over seen alot of times, is the fact that the fictional vampire is always turning its eyes toward beauty. The weakness has been the vampires downfall for centuries according to folklore as well as literature.

Once entranced by beauties gaze, the vampire becomes raptured by the mere site of such grace. Thus it becomes vulnerable to any danger surrounding it.



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How can it be that no one mentions beheadings?????

This was crucial to the desecration of a vampires remains. In fact, it is one commonality amongst different cultures. Meanwhile, not all agree that vampires require an invitation to enter and crosses do not always work. Fire until there are nothing but ashes left is also said in different stories (though what to do with the ashes does vary).



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I believe we are on the discussion of weakness, not how to kill a vampire. If we were discussing methods of destruction, then the beheading would be applicable.



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I like everyone else agree that the things that the movies say that vampires hate are all just make believe and wouldnt effect anyone....well except those that cannot go into the sun like albino's etc that the sun can burn them greatly because of their fair skin and some ppl do have an allegy towards different things I guess some would have it towards garlic also.

The stake and silver bullet thing well I would love to see anyone that using these things wouldnt harm or kill them.

The one I love is not seeing a reflection in a mirror it be a great way to sneak up on someone.



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Whispersinthewind
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Although, the reflection is a method of advancement, not nessessarily a weakness for the vampire. Thus, mirrors are ruled out as weakness's to a point. As far as identification goes, then yes, I would call it a weakness.



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BowieX
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yes a mirror itself isnt a weakness, but if a vampire is trying to hide itself then a mirror can be used against it to discover it, therefore it would be a form of weakness. Well I would believe so.



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now i could be wrong so please don't remove my head for this.... LOL

i have read that drinking "dead blood" can kill a vampire?? or weaken enough to move in for the kill??



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EmoZombie you might be right ...seemd i have read that as well... but it's been a awhile



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Alcohol thinns the blood so surely that wouldn't go down so well with a vamp?



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I also think another vampires weakness would be seeing a cross or anything that is spitual like holywater because it would make a Vampire melt just like our fictional character of the witch that was played in The Wizard of Oz.



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I heard somewhere that they can't pass over running water like rivers and such.



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I've heard fire is a fear of the vampyre for it is a cleansing burn takes place.



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i heard that vampires need the soil from their birthland in order to really rest. i guess that would be a weakness because they'd have to cart that around if they were traveling.



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Yeah it doesn't seem very practical to have to carry that soil around at all times, especially if they travel a lot.



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If I were a vampire I'd be frightened of getting close to anyone...the lust would be hell I bet.



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no matter how powerful and Immortal we create our Boogey Man .. we build in a safety feature. No matter how we are astonished by the seemingly terrible we always fall short of ominepotence.

We place such limits, on our creations, perhaps in fear that they many "become". So even those who claim to be vampires know that they are not invincible.



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fictional weaknesses are pretty much we go on, but research the inquiry and you'll be suprised at what you find, but what do you think their weaknesses are here in reallity.



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DestructionOfDeath
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Does anybody believe that a vampire of the fictional sense can ever become reality??

And thanks for the answers you all.

And kryptick and soulshroude on the running water thanks for the explantions and I have learned a lot.

And what are you dabbler that whenever we the humans (race of destrution) create something we make a fail-safe?



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yea a "kill switch". Werewolves are very vicious unless you can afford silver.
Vampires are horrible, unless you own a crucific factory.. or you are a priest that blesses said crosses..



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DestructionOfDeath
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So what in your opinion dabbler is the main weakness of a vampire?



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I believe that the main weakness would be sunlight, or beauty ... it is a toss up for me on those



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virtuous
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How long would it take for them to dissolve?



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I could imagine it would bepend upon the advanced state of "development" the entropy is ingrained in the trasition of the corpse that is the vampire.



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Bleh, I can't believe more of you haven't heard about the dirt issue.



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virtuous
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Morgoth; you mean about them only be able to rest with dirt from their own town? I found out about it on the forum.
I didn't know it was very common knowledge.



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Yeah, I've heard about all of these weaknesses already.

The dirts got to be from their unholy graves?

Also has anyone heard they cast no shadow? This would make it easier to be spotted.

I personally go by the "must be invited" into a house. Not so much because its good manners, I just feel compelled to do it that way.



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Like garlic, another folk remedy for the vampire was wild roses or thorns. Although roses themselves may have had a magical use, they were probably used because of their thorns.

Wild thorny roses and other spiny objects were strung around the outside of the coffin in order to impede the vampire's progress out of the tomb. (Barber, 1988, 52)

The head and feet of a corpse can be bound with thorny briars, or thorns simply strewn in the casket. That way, if the corpse became a vampire and tried to rise from its grave, its shroud would get caught on the thorns and keep in firmly in its coffin. (Barber, 1988, 52)


http://vampires.monstrous.com/thorns.htm



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what about the weaknesses of man.before they was turned would it carry over into the vampiric lifestyle?



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In many historical documents "Iron" was placed around areas to be protected from vampires.



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Kryptick
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I think beheading is everybody's weakness...vampire or not XD



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Yeah, I like to think weaknesses from when they were human would carry over. Weather it be a love for books or a certain kind of lady. Old habbits die hard.



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in the texts of my people, there is a little known legend. a child was bitten as a boy, but it was at dawn. he matamorphosed into a vampire during broad daylight, and was immediately incinerated, however the legend states that each night he would be born anew, similar to the Phoenix. the only way that was said to finally destroy the halfling was to collect his ashes and keep them in a place of constant sunlight. the only way to do so was to travel with the sun, over the sea. hense the weaknes towards water. the boy had a name in my people's tongue: dr'aluc



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Everything has it's pros and cons and there is nothing living that cannot die. It's just a matter of learning about what it is you are going up against, using your intuition and your first reaction to protect yourself should this be attacking you or causing harm. I wouldn't be too concerned though about how to harm or kill anything unless it was from a defense reaction as anyone or animal would do. Either you will succeed or fail but question is....is the act of it the real answer? :)



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i wonder how they would react to a powerfull laser?



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white roses...rice...



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why would a vampire be effected by white roses or rice? that's new to me lol



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Yeah about the rice I want to know as for the white roses.....white is traditionally a sign of pureness that is why they say angels are dressed in white so maybe that is why the white roses would stop them.


And dabbler I have never heard of entropy would be able to inform on what that mans??

These are some good responses I never new dirt or red or white roses could stop a vampire.



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i know they have a weakness weapons either sharp or pointy and to lead at both high and low velocity...in short, they are pretty easy to kill. And tasty too.



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i think the one they have to worry about the most would be the sun



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mm depends on what kind of vampire you are i guess. Like the psychic vamp from my dream...came to me at night AND during the day so....i dont think a lot of things that are infamous for being a vampire weaknesses would actually work on them all.



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THE RICE!!!
And pebbles, beads, etc...
Though it's not technically a WEAKNESS, vampires were said to be OCD, so if you throw anything at them like beads or rice, they'll have to stop and pick them all up, thus slowing them down and letting you get away.



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lets see blood root was said to be a major bane in vampires
its abilities are said to be able to drain a vampire of their essence.

however in order to find this information you have to look back into much older scripture not stories but more myth and superstition.

as for weaknesses its hard to say what they truly would be.
sun I wouldnt think hinders and kills a vampire but they are more sensitive to the beams, however that can also be led to the fact most believe living a life in the dark so its no surprise that the sun would cause some form of pain.



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Having the Inability to Cross Water.
Vulnerable to Atoprophic Objects
Repulsion to Holy ground
Only a few weeknessess i know of
also there power weekening,



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scientists test things to see how they work. i would hate to see a "real" Vampire caught and prodded and poked at, but perhaps that would be the best way to determine if they (Vampires) were weak in any way.


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Here's a question that fits rather nicely If a vampire was held in a cell at the bottom of the ocean and he shared it with a shark, could the vampire live?



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how could he survive, a vampire needs oxygen just like we do and if you was in a cell in the bottom of the ocean the pressure alone would kill you.



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Searching for your love again …. Seems to be fatal lol



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I think with the soil thing really all that has to be done so they can carry the soil of their birthplace around is carry some in a small vial,because unless they need alot that really is all the have to do so it isn't much of a burden or weakness.As for the other weakness' mentioned they are not the same for other vampires,each vampire is different so I believe so their weakness' would be different as well.So really it is hard for me to say what I think a vampire's weakness is because we can truely never know only what we see in movies and read in books and those tend to be far from the truth.



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And the psychic vampires. What would their weaknesses be?



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I think weakness no matter the way they feed are the same for one like the other unless someone else can provide some info for me to be wrong.



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DasWolf, probably some kind of hypnotism... or maybe someone who is telepathic and can chance people's thoughts... If those sort of people exist that is lol



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Ludia, there in lies the whole question as to weather some can differentiate between fact and fantasy.



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Im sure finding doners would be a weakness, but maybe running out of blood. Vampires live forever, they will be here long after the human race is gone. When humans are gone so will the blood.



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But there are other sources of blood.



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ok have you ever killed a real vampire how do we know thier weakness?



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Inability to Enter a Dwelling without Being First Invited In.
Inability to Cross Water.
Coma during day time.
Inability to Withstand the Direct Rays of the Sun.
Dependence upon the Soil of their Land of Birth for Rest.
Reflection Not Seen in a Mirror.
Vulnerable to Atoprophic Objects.
Repulsion to holy ground.


Vampires cannot cross a thicket of wild rose or a line of salt. Vampires are compelled to stop and count every grain in a pile of grain or numerous objects (often grain) thrown into their path. More about this.


Vampires are unable to enter churches, temples, or other religious sanctuaries that represent "light" or goodness, whether they have been previously invited or not. They may only enter such holy places if they have been somehow desecrated beforehand.

The vampire, as any pagan creature, is not admitted in the holy sanctuaries of the Church but there are no testimonies that he can be harmed if he doesn’t follow the rule.


The vampire's renowned recuperative powers do have their limitations, however. A vampire cannot grow back a severed portion of its body. However, apart from the obvious periodic inconveniences, injuries like these will not critically impair a vampire's "life" or efficacy.

The only substances that cause a vampire pain and injury are weapons made of pure silver, and to a lesser degree - unless it penetrates the heart - wood.


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Alot of these weaknesses are true. But I agree shooting, beheading,stabing,burning up ya that would kill anyone.



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suppose the vampire drinks the blood of a drunk.....would the vampire become drunk? that might be a weakness...



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Vampirisms biggest flaw is not one of physicality, but one of spirituality.

They have given up spiritual progression for eternal life on earth.

All other weaknesses are a metaphor.



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I know silver is resented by the vampire due to one specific tale, the man who betrayed Jesus for silver peices. He then tried to kill himself and the tale says he was cursed by god and unable to die, looking upon silver reminds him of his betrayal and he can not stand it. As per holy water, antything truly evil would fear such a holy relic, and the stake through the heart I have heard will not work unless it is a specific type of wood and a preist preys over the dying vampire releasing its tortured soul, or so god allows the vampire to find rest when the preist requists it.



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How about decapitation? Being burned alive? Cut in half? Breaking every bone in a 'vampires' body? Surely 'vampires' cant live through those.



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Holy water, Holy ground, and crucifixes are said to repel vampires. I think others have covered most everything else.



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The problem is that a vampire will regenerate tissue almost instantly, so crushing them or breaking bones really wouldn’t work. Cutting off their head would seem to be a good tactic; I’ve heard that is a common thing when dealing with a vamp. Stake them, cut off their head, rinse the body with holy water, and then burn them. The ashes are then thrown on holy ground, but I wonder about that because cemeteries are holy ground and yet they always seem to go to a tomb to rest, so how is that?



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Aggravated Damage requires much more of a vampires regeneration power, this is the reason vampires get dis figuring scars.. when a vampire goes without feeding they seem to get grisly ugly crumpled up. Perhaps to stave off deteriation is the reason a vampire seeks to feed.. Any Volenteers for a containment test...? come on.. you know who you are..
We can book it for a cruise event..



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Honestly, Do you really think that a "real" vampire would disclose what their weaknesses are?

No mer human will. We all think or at least like to think that we are flawless while some how picking our selves apart for who we are.

No one and I mean no one would disclose what their weaknesses are when it can be used against them. I dont think I ever saw superman on a forum telling the world how to kill him self, have you? LOL



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Decapitation, obviously. Push the twit into a nuclear reactor...



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I'm not sure if anyone mentioned these..

A shot with SILVER bullet is the first and the other I've heard about is
to put in your door or window a bag with rice or sand.. It is believed that the vampire can not enter until they count it ALL, every grain (it's some kind of obssesion I think) so they will probably get caught by sunrise..



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I like the reactor ideal, that would surely roast them, but I think the vampire even though with blood can regenerate a significant amount of damage such as dismemberment would definitely take its toll on them. I was wondering can they regenerate limbs. Also I agree that no vampire would disclose its weaknesses, but a good slayer if he lived long enough would discover what works best to end them, however figuring that out could be a deadly situation due to the vampire would not waste time ending you and the secrets you have discovered.



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DestructionOfDeath
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That reactor deal sounds real good MBK and thanks for the new ones we have not said but can somebody help as to finding information on the rice thing like a book etc......



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I think a lot of the myths, such as garlic and sunlight were mistaken for weaknesses as dislikes. With strong senses of smell they probably would not want to get near garlic or anything else that smells bad for that part.
And a stake to the heart would kill anyone, so that one is kinda obvious.



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anything religious. not crosses exactly, but a bible, maybe. consecrated ground



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A vampire can only be hurt by the bad blood of a donor, a stake through the heart, and beheading.



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Oh I ever heard the the rice thing spellonu. That would be fun to watch a vampire sitting there counting lol



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Vampire weaknesses are either things they enjoyed in life, or simply punishments in death so I feel it would depend on the vampire themselves. For instance, a caretaker of children might find themselves feeling weak or in pain around children in the afterlife, but a child murderer would find strength in the anticipation of the kill.



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i believe that garlic are one of vampire's weaknesses,not too sure why,but that is my opinion though :D



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xBloadxSoakedxLipsx -


What if it was perhaps cut into thousands of pieces? Or the brain was destroyed? Sent to the sun? Frozen in sub-arctic temperatures then smashed? Pushed into a volcano?



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Any weakness for me is just a state o' mind. If thy mind cringes away from it or falls back it is a weakness, I also b'lieve that each Vampire 'as his/hers own weakness, if we all 'ad the same weakness, there would be no one left the claim the race as existin' among man.



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Good point MBK...lol...sorry to laugh, but they did ask the question.



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Seriously, though. Basically anything along the lines of what would be extremely fatal to a human could kick a vampires arse too.



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Bad Movies.. really I think after while an entity that lived far longer then us would really be a drag on those looking for something new. It would drive them ...Mad.



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crosses and holy water and holy relics, so I have read.
I personall think most of that stuff is pretty look upon.



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Although 'nto many Myths each Vampire 'as the same weaknesses, maybe not all but at least one, I find that false. 'N the book Rebirth, a vampire named Deshwitat (Creepy name) looks down upon a victim who holds up a cross around his neck to "Ward" him off, an' Deshwitat grabs the cross an' says "For this t' work you need t' 'ave faith, an' if you 'ave faith, then why are your hands shakin'?"

He did not get burned nor a holy light engulfed him, so ev'ry vampire is descripted diff'rent.



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DestructionOfDeath
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To MBK,

What if there was a thing like La Magra or something you know a blood god like in blade MBK?????



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If it were something like that, things like I listed about would work [e.g. the nuclear reactor, et cetera] would work.



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has any one here read the book peeps? it givs yet another version about vampires....... in the sense that it is a parasite....... the only weekness of it then are steak to the heart....... a bullet would work to ........ the other weekness are determinded by the person....... any thing that they loved as a mortal is their weakness because it then turns against them driving them mad eventually to the point that they would kill them selfs if frced to face that thing for to ong....... eplaining why the crosses would have at onetime worked ...... for the most part every one was highly rligous..... or the sun cause there were always out enjoying their time during the day?



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And what book would that be?



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