Well since the whole idea of vamps is hypothetical, you can make up your own story on that. It's your movie, how would you have it?
in almost any vampire lore etc. no vampire can give birth unless i have missed something in that case please correct me.
The child would be half vampire if there was no miscarriage.
with the test results the blood sperm or whatever the vampire was donating would show up as tainted and be rejected from the docter
But if vampires can't reproduce then how do you get a pure blood?
i think the kid would be half vampire and if the vampir just feed from some one with good blood then he should be good.
Lets say that its plausible just for conversations sake. I can't even imagine the mother being able to carry a child of a vampire to full term, what about when it gets hungry? Is it going to feed on the insides of mom considering that it may have a lust for blood. Gross I know but just saying......
Either way it is a scary thought. What I don't understand is that so many people claim to be vampires, but the thing is is that at one point a vampire had to have been born. Otherwise we wouldn't have pure bloods AKA born vampires. Still a creepy thought. You never know she could bottle feed it blood. LOL
That would be one heck of a movie. Being in theory, I would say if the sperm bank is checking for typical diseases they would not have a screeing for Vampires so it would escape their detection....
If vampires existed they would be actually considered dead. So I would not be able to see where they would have any sperm. With that said I dont see how they could reproduce
good posting.. I think you could have a vampire baby but you would need a human to give birth to it.. it wouldnt be pure..
I am O negative......
then again it would be interesting a baby born out of a Vampire sperm donor...then also a pregnant woman ( yes I am being cliche) being bitten would transmit to the unborn child pure blood
wait a minute about the sperm bank you mean the guy would only get 50$ for his "donation" ?
i think that the blood would come back with some signs yes seeming vamps and dead
and yes half vamps can exist, well i guess it all depends on the legand
Wow this is alot to wrap ones brain around .. I feel it should just stay in a movie status LOL
according to ledgend, yes there are True Blooded Vamps and well like in Vanhelsing they had multiple babies and still not sure how that happen...
I just do not see how a normal human could even use the sperm of a vampire. just my opinion.. still thinking on it and this is a very good Hypothetical question or low budget movie plot idea..
Excellent question, and I'm in the perfect mood for it --- bored silly with trout fishing!
Vampires are "undead" not walking corpses. Their undeadness is supernatural, and every part of them is embued with this magic. Their sperm is robust and their ejaculations like geysers. Only DNA screening would reveal any potential evolutionary markers. Since the vampire would be disease free, so would his sperm.
Their semen would be especially motile and seek out the female ovum like heat-seeking missles. An especially high fertility rate amongst the female recipients would be noted, as well as their multiple orgasms when the sperm first enters them.
Thus, a backdoor deal would be struck between clinic and vampire: he would be asked to donate daily. No problem for the vampire. He might even organize a retinue of vampire donors, asking for a commission for hooking them up with the easy money.
To answer the first question: were "undead" vampires to truly exist and additionally need money, I'm sure they could do far better than being reduced to selling their sperm for a few bucks.
To answer the second question: as Eastern European folkore has amply recorded, the offspring of vampires and Human females are called Dhampirs. Thus, yes, vampires can mate and have children. In fact, the actual Slavic vampire was far better known and characterized for its "insatiable sexuality" than for the later false vilification of being a supposed bloodsucker.
He might want to donate daily. He might not be an upwardly mobile or clever vampire. Perhaps he donated before becoming a vampire, and continues to do so while he sorts out his priorities.
Well about 90% of the people on this site say vampires can not have sex. I don't agree with that. If they are indeed dead, and still walk around feeding off of people. Then who is to say that a vampire can't rise to the occasion? And who is to say that a vampire couldn't be hard up for money and donate sperm? lol
oh vampires can have sex but im not sure artificial insemination would actually work?
Well in most mythology, the vampire's body is dead, so bodily fluids like sperm have "dried up" at the moment of death. The only story I've ever heard of a Vampire being able to impregnate a woman was he fed, and while his body was warm, conception happened. There you go, a very strange case of a dhampir.
well I like what you said Elfie... I had not even thought about it being dried up... good one..
So the people here that claim to be vampires can't reproduce and are dead? That's creepy right there, lol. And yeah, unknowingly having a vampire baby is freaky too. lol
ok first off no it wouldnt show cuz blood that vamps drink are strictly digested
second yea i think they would have some traits
well since none of it can happen in reality then anything goes. but i guess that a male vampire couldnt donate sperm since he would technically be dead there would be none. and therefore a female would not be able to be inseminated by said sperm so there would be no baby.
Now this question would be moot if it's a fictional or folkloric type of vampire. If it was a modern person claiming this there are some who say they have taken genetic testing and there are one to two genes they have that are not ones found in the normal human...anomaly...don't know. I am not someone who knows all the ins and outs of blood but if they only did a normal blood test I would bet most likely they would be the same or within normal parameters. So would they be something different when transfused? Personally I don't think so but its a good idea for a story! :) As far as artificial insemination who knows. If it was a "condition" then I guess it could be transferable in that way but I personally don't believe that. Interesting question.
That would make a awesome movie you should find out how to submit yout ideas. as for real day i dont believe it would matter.
Well its not likely much would show up for diseases as for the if it got put in a female mostly it would be half vampire and would be abit awkword to have because of it needing blood.
we are talking lore or hollywood, To me the vampires body is dead all things within it would be dead too, And true bloods are hollywoods make of the first vampires. Yet the very top of the chain to say. so reproduction would infact be out of the question in my opion, unless there is other lore to represent this. so when they check the counts of blood and other things it would be tainted like it was stated and be thrown out, and the boys in the white and black jackets would be called and the vampire escorted to a lab. donot think the vampire would put theirselves in that spot.
Pure blood vampires like in Blade - well, like Jamie said - the vampire world is how the author makes it... mostly vampires are undead - so nothing would work as in sperm or internal organs...so if in your world, vampires are made and not 'undead' then supposedly sperm would be viable.
yes, a baby born from a human and a vampire would be half of each - like Blade. As to attributes, it's up to you as to how they would be.
well I'm not sure honey,
I mean would a vampire want to donate sperm?
I always though that vampire would be sterile but that might be the influence of Anne Rice's stories.
however if if vampires are able to have children,
then I would think that yes the child born from them would be half vampire half human.
Also when the doctors screened the seaman it would be most likely that the said sample would show up differences unless of cause the sperm somehow mange to stay like human seaman until after fertilisation.
I agree with AngelMort on this aspect. Vampires that have lived long would have aquired thier forturnes along the way.
let's say for this little exercise (all fictional) the Vampire has lost all he had at the casino ( ok it is pushy but lts play along the fiction here)
He manage to go to the sperm bank gets cash, makes a donation, now next step.
The woman gets the "goods" all goes well, during pregnancy will the feotusfeed of teh obelical cord? Or the mother's wound's blood vessel, or will the child have a special conexion with the " father" allowing them to comunicate. Then once born, will the child want to drink the blood release by the birth, the placenta and etch?
I mean even with fiction there are some baisc rules with giving birth and bearing a child, vampire or not.
I'm sure that something would show up in the vampire's blood, and the sperm bank not knowing what it was would most likely not accept it.
But if the sperm were to go to a mother, I don't think the baby would be half vampire..It would either be a vampire or it wouldn't I don't think there is an in between.
I have a question..
if a baby was born that was half vampire, would breast feeding be out of the question?
Yeah, i keep ending up at square one -- even a first year med assistant would know how to spot the difference between living and dead cells.
*grin* You must be tall with all that reaching! You assume they digest blood -- who's to say they need it as nourishment is because they are dead and need to recycle living blood through their own bodies to sustain themselves. This would be more like a complex blood transfusion and the effects thereof rather than vampiric gastric juices hard at work.
OK. But if they are indeed dead and do not have a pulse. The how is it that vampires go about looking like average people? It would only take s few hours after death for the blood to coagulate and for the rest of the body to start decomposing. So you are telling me that people that claim to be vampires and/or live the vampire lifestyle are really reanimated corpses?
if the definition of a ghost in a vessel body is used I would say any samples would have the blood of the last person the vampire feed on, probaly mixed with some decayed matter.
I would totally refuse to change a vamp baby's diaper. Guano...ewww.
LOL. It couldn't smell any worse than a human babies diaper.
Its not the smell but the texture...lmao
white runny vampy baby poop :P *hork*
Vampires, first can't respawn. They respawn by biting someone and then turning that person into one of their own kind.
The doctor would indeed reject the blood because it would be a mixture of every type of blood. Also in seeing that vampires aren't inflicted by disease why would a disease be a factor here?
sorry that I am a little late in responding to this thread but I see this as just a movie flick because vampires are immortal and if they can or can't reproduce I would think that another vampire would be born as immortal even if it was made to look human.
I disagree. I think vampires die like the rest of us. I think they can reproduce and get sick just the same. And who is too say that vampires can't have sexual intercourse and reproduce? You never know.
well if you think of vampires and the undead killer types why would they need money? They could just take it from their prey couldn't they. If we look at it now a days it isn't just women who sit at home so if they need money they could find it or do much more interesting things to get a couple of bucks.
I am sure Vampire half children exist because it is very hard to keep anything pure blooded now a days. I just don't think the sperm bank idea is the why that would happen. I was thought that was done more by either men who can not hold down jobs or men with ego complexes that think spreading their seeds around would improve the population.
LMAO. This is a fictional question. Don't take it too seriously folks. I just thought it would be good for discussion. I still don't see a reason as too why vampires can not reproduce. Saying they are "dead" doesn't do it for me. Reason being so many people on this site claim to be vampires. So are they dead? I personally don't believe in vampires period. I just like reading about them. I do however believe in nuts.
I dont think a baby born to a human and a vampire would have any vampire like symptoms till older its blood would probably be in human matter and would not be diseased.
I don't know about all that but I think it would make a good movie or book. One I would buy.
Look for "Breaking Dawn."
I think there may be some similarities, from what I've heard.
And what is Breaking Dawn? Novel, short story, or film?
Her child would be half blood. A daywalker right?
I would think, since the child is a half blood, they would be immune to things that a full blood isn't.
Here's more about the book. I haven't read it yet, but I hear its pretty good and has similarities to this thread.
Breaking Dawn
ohhhh the Twilight Series by Stephanie Meyer. My niece told me to read those. I will definitely pick them up at the library. Actuall everyone has told me to read those. Thank you =)
Truth be told, I giggle until I want to take pencils and jam them up my nose and slam my face into my desk whenever someone starts claiming to be a vampire. It's just silly to me. Or maybe I need to better understand what your definition is of that which you claim to be.
Vamp babies, I still think that would be a hysterical B Movie... Just a thought..
I think that the sperm would be just fine. I dont believe the baby would have any symptoms at all.
I don't think it would at first. But I think symptoms would start around puberty possibly.
Excellent review on Amazon from Publishers Weekly, sort of damning with feint praise. Scroll down to a more lengthy , but well-thought out review by a reader. At the Memphis airport today, everyone of Meyer's books was prominently displayed. Breaking Dawn
Spoiler: Vampire knocks up heroine in Meyer's new book.
Would someone please read it and post how the author explains the seminal issue.
Speaking in the terms of this thread, I think that insemination, be it artificial or otherwise could be possible. I do not see why vampires must be sterile. Some say a vampire's heart beats. Therefore, he has a pulse, blood pressure. He might breathe, he might not have to.
If the mother were to become impregnated by a vampire, I think that the mother should be able to carry to full term. The fetus draws nutrients from his mother, and she also gives the fetus life by sharing her body: her womb, her oxygen, her food sources and her blood. The mother might simply have cravings for very rare meat or might need blood transfusions to sate the child's hungers. I'm sure that because the child has a human mother he would also require regular nutrients, such as what his mother might eat. So, he will need both blood and milk from his mother upon his birth, or he might not. It all depends on what is bred out of the offspring by the joining of the mother's human egg and the sperm-donor's semin.
A friend just sent me this re Twilight vampire Edward knocking up heroine (AFTER marriage, of course):
the author explains the pregnancy by saying
that it's something the male vamps can do, and it's happened before but only
rarely, because there isn't must history of human/vamp sex because the vamps
always kills the humans during sex...and if they do show restraint and a human
woman does become pregnant, the strength of the baby in the womb kills the mom.
She does wind up introducing other vamp/humans at the end.
Just another way for mankind to play God. We already have a way to become Inseminated. Why do we need to create more?
As the Christian says:
"Things are done because God wants them to be that way."
So if you are unable to make babies, ask God for that ability.
if that was possiblei think the offspring would be a hybrid and i do think there would be some adnormalities in the blood that were unexplainable,of course.
well i dont think anything abnormal would show up on the blood test except maybe other peoples blood. Like maybe they would have numerous blood types. And yeah the baby would be half-vampire because the mother was human and the father was vampire
in blade 2 the vampires had a blood bank. some vampires do own blood banks. as for the blood there would have to be slight differences in the blood. in some folk law they say that dead mans blood can hurt a vampire.
Umm I was raised baptist. And asking god for something does NOT mean he will give it too you. No offense to that post, but there are things that happen in this world that can't and never will be explained. Not even by the bible.
I think that if you did a bloodtest on a vampire the DNA would seem all mixed up. Its a mix of a lot of DNA:s and that must be a confusion.
If a baby from a vampire and a human would turn out ok or not is really a tricky question.
I cannot come up with an answer.
if it was possible, the baby would experience vampire like symptoms at some point. He'd have to. Some traits from his father would eventually be present. That's what I think.
I could be wrong but since vampires are supposed to be immortal i feel they would not have to be as careful as the rest of the general population about who they bite.
Since they don't seem to have to be as careful than yes possibly some abnormality or disease might show up if a vampire's blood can even be tested like the general population.
The baby question i am not sure if it would be born half vampire or full vampire or just mortal as i heard happened once in some story i read or saw years ago.
Anything is possible i think
If my infant was born a vampire i hope it would not make any difference to me.
IF the undead breed of vampire were able to create sperm, then I would think that he would not resort to earning money by donating it--mainly because IF there were any genetic componants (other than normal human DNA) to his DNA, then there would be possibility of revealing that there are Vampires. And if that happened, those who did find out, would have to be killed or given the choice to be turned. Plus, it would be easier for the Vampire to just steal the $50 he needed rather than go through the red tape of donating sperm.
Regarding the monetary status of vampires:
Other critics agree that the vampire legend in general may have originated in order to explain the connection between the aristocracy and immortality (Carter, 65). Gothic plots tend to revolve around wills, succession, and inheritance and though the lord in the castle may change through death and generational succession, the presence of a lord and his rights and title persisted through the centuries often at the expense of peasant blood. And, of course, the analogy between tyrannical exploitation and literal "blood-sucking" is clear enough. Lestat also "inherits" the accumulated wealth of the vampire who transforms him and his wealth only continues to grow, as does the material wealth of most of the novel's other vampire characters, due in part to their longevity and to the emerging capitalist system. As Lestat tells his mother, "You know where to reach me, the addresses of my banks in London and Rome. Those banks have lived as long as vampires already. They will always be there" (353). Thus, the novel explores the related idea of a secret elite that controls great wealth over generations, a fairly popular conspiracy theory today, or simply a matter of fact, depending on one's political viewpoint."
Reference and an interesting read:
Vampire for Our Times
And, I am sure that not all who are turned into vampires are rich, but once turned they are not in need of most materialistic things that humans are. And if they do want or are in need of something, they have the skills, contacts, and preturnatural powers to get what they want.
yes the above post is possibly true. but keep in mind thid id just a hypothetical question. =)
most who give birth love what they have given birth to unconditionally. for those reading this I said MOST certainly not all. i am sure it would be a shock for the most part but like anything else in life adjustments can be made.
since the ombelical cord is mainly blood, I asusm the child would drink out the mother dry
well the female human body i complex it doesn everything to preserve the infant and if the infant is half human then how can it drain the mother
it seems we almost all agree that the blood and sperm would show some sort of abnormality and there fore be rejected by the docs thoe we know tainted blood has slipped thru the cracks of testing and have made many people seriously ill....i would say if this happend the baby would be half vamp and would need very speciel care as it most likely reject any food
Ok, first we would have to assume that the vamp can perform sexual and actually creates sperm. If they did, I think it would show up on the blood test; with a vampires higher rate of regeneration and resistance to disease there's obviously differences on a biological level.
Now, if the potential mother were to be inseminated (the sperm sample still manages somehow to slip through) I think it is most likely that her body would reject the sample and she would not conceive. On the off chance that she did, and miraculously would be able to carry to term...I think the baby would probably be full blooded vampire. In theory, when a vampire's blood enters a human bloodstream, the vamp's blood "kills" the human blood, massively replicating until nothing but vampire blood remains. What may start as half-vamp in the womb would be full-vamp by the time of birth.
Just my theory, anyways. :)
I would have to agree with your logic on that. I didnt look at it from that point of view. hmm lots to think about
They just examine the sperm to make sure that it has lively little fishes swimming around in there. they don't really test it for disease. They use blood to test for disease. I'm not really sure if they would be able to detect anything out of the ordinary in a vampires blood. If they aren't looking for it then how would they know it's there? And I don't believe that there's a test to see if someone is a vampire, lol.
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No vampire I've ever heard about was ever able to get pregnant or, if male, produce live sperm...... So I don't know. lol
I agree, they must be able to reproduce to have pure bloods. If not, having a pure blood would be nearly impossible.. unless it's like living like the carpathians in Christine Feehan's books.
Something always shows up... even in "normal" people... with vampires, of course something will show up, giving the fact that their constant need of blood is driven by a malformation in their own blood stream and componence...
Great post everyone but please explain your answers in detail. Tell s why you think what you think. ; )
I think that the clinic that did the testing would need to be looking specifically for something wrong with the DNA.
As for the baby, well it would take after both parents naturally just due to its genetics (if vampires have different DNA.) So it would be at half vampire. Likely since the mother is the childs food source through out the pregnancy, and the child would be feeding from her; it is plausible that the child would kill her before the child could be born. Thus this would likely be a completely moot point.
Exactly what i thought. If they aren't looking for a particular disease in the blood than how are they going to know? And there is certainly not a test for vampires, lol.
since this is very hypothetical... there really is no answer... there are so many stories saying they cant reproduce... that they cant do this or that... what if they could... someone here should write a story or a vampire and mortal and a halfy baby... i would definately read it...
it wouldn't work, the vampire would be shooting blanks, the sperm would be dead.
well I would hope the dr would pick up on the fact that the thing in front of him was'nt breathing....