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If it was possible, to leave ones own body and merge into another's "mind" in attempt to gain firsthand insight...

It would be likely that one would not either truly experience what that person experiences or with full awareness.

If one were to merge, but retain their own perspective enough to observe, then one would still find ones self separated of the experience.

If one was to fully merge, it may become all experience but no comparative state to observe from, therefore no full awareness of the experience...

You are assuming that there is no buffer in the human mind to perceive more then what we perceive.

Can we shut down our own senses and use some of those resources?

Or perhaps we could at that state read directly to the subconscious.

There are experiments done where people are flashed numbers so fast that they can not see them and if you ask them what number it was, they have no idea. However if you show picture of several numbers they can point to the right one.

This has happened also in a study I read recently where they temporarily blinded subjects with magnetism.

So perhaps there is another way to receive information directly that we could utilize in this case.

An empathetic pathway.

I believe that it could be done. People only use a small percentage of their brains. If one could read anothers mind, one could possibly merge with it. I would like to learn more on this subject as well.

well I do think its possible if you are really in tune with someone

I believe you would need to learn to think like them as well first. I don't see how opposing concepts could easily flow.

yes it can be done...

but the method is that your mind is in your body and yoru counterpart's mindis in its body... thou can feel and know its mind being within your ow body and thine conscious control its mind and intellact... this is because thou is high conscious than it is.

i would have to agree you would have ot think as well as use your own senses as they would basically you would become them in a way,not sure if i would really like that.

Equinox I tend to agree with you because to think as one thinks is to act as one acts. Therefore what insight would you be getting by becoming this person so to speak?

I definitely I believe you can tap into people's mind as it is. I imagine if we were able to use our brain fully, who knows what we could do. Telepathy, teleportation; the options could be limitless.

Thats good point vixxen, they say that identical twins can access each others minds so why do others see this as such as outlandish possabilitiy?

mind reading is not the merging... even telepathy is not the merging of mind... its channelling of senses from own body and own intellact and mind...

i merging become successful, two person can do only one act at the time... mind do not have capacity to process more than three thoughts at the time and even it process two thoughtss at the time... its blood pressure goes very highg to alarming rate and person become most strained...

I have a little expirement I am planning, that will simulate possession. Any Takers, sign on in my journal, limited openings. Please specif whether you want to possess, or be possessed.

I've been in someone else's dream but as a passive observer - I had no control over the situation

I've never had any experience with this. Neither reading nor being read (my mind, that is). I would, however, like to be able to switch bodies with someone else, as in that Lovecraft story. Suspend death indefinitely by acquiring a new body every few decades...

One could only take over the body and mind of another if the other party was willing to relenquish control. If you were sucessful in the endeavor you would find yourself a bumbling child new in a world of perception in which you had no understanding of even the simplest nature... You would find yourself at the wheel of a vehicle that you cannot operate and even the most novice task would be impossible.... Their memories and thoughts would be yours yet you would not have any way to extract meaning from them.... You would be as a newborn in its first day in this world......This is the most frustrating journey one could ever embark upon...........

If you merge with someone else’s mind completely, wouldn’t you be running the risk of getting stuck there?
(sorry if that's a stupid question)

Entering others body true art and even changes of pigment too.

More common seen art is controlling others mind distantly or nearer one by hypnotizm.

Even they can intercept your dreams and control them too.

Its all the play of conscious.

From my personal view,when it comes to merging or other things of that nature,I feel that one,it isnt really a merge so to speak that is done completely and with control,but simply a natural entrainment.Two,entrainment doesnt last but momentarily.This is why it is always so fleeting.Enough to where we cant really study it at this time.Three,I feel there are EXTREMELY few who could do this purposely.Otherwise,my stand is that its pretty much a law of nature and happens randomly and naturally.With everyone.There are ways to control or direct one's mind persey,but that isnt any kind of telepathy.LNP and hypnotism are two of those methods.
As far as pigment changes and things like that? Well,I would need to see that one for myself before I would lend any credence to it.

While i haven't conclusively made up my mind on the subject of whether its possible to merge or not, I do like the idea and possibilities it would open up. As with everything with the wrong person for the wrong reasons someone would get hurt. If it were possible I would still urge caution. It would be great to experience it, but what happens if the experience traumatizes you to the point you cannot find yourself to go back again. hmmm pondering all possibles.

I notice people with limited social skills( that can hardly interact in social setting) ponder such metaphysical possibilities, longing to find some way to confirm the possibility, as if doing so is easier then just interacting with another person through MUNDANE social exchange.

We all know that everything in existence is made of energy and all energy vibrates.With work, we can alter the rate of our own vibration.Even with laughter.
Matching vibrations is resonance. If you have a piano and a guitar sitting close to each other and you hit the A key, the A string on the guitar will vibrate but the other strings will just sit there. They won't resonate with the vibration of A.
Simply put,entrainment is the process of matching another vibration. Havent you ever been in a great mood and then walked into a room where people were fighting? Certainly you felt your energy drop.You might fall into a "mob' mentality and jump right in,fists swinging. Have you gone to a party in a sad mood and been lifted by the happy energy at the party? That's entrainment. It happens naturally all the time, to us and in nature. Seriously,even drivers who use angry energy on the road can entrain a whole highway to their angry energy in minutes.
Who let the dogs out?
The truth is,the principles of resonance and entrainment can be harnessed by all of us to set a tone or mood of ourselves and those around us. By paying attention to how we feel (how we're vibrating), we can use our consciousness and techniques as it opens us to the awareness of our own feelings and emotions, increasing intuition and adding power to our intentions. Thus I believe that is the key to strong magic.Or simply a strong person for that matter.Masny do it without even realizing it.
With work and practice,we can decide how and when to raise our vibration, what we're going to resonate with and entrain to..
So in a sense,and different words,I would say you can merge with another's mind.But to out and out merge,getting in on all their memories or controling them completely with your mind like Spock or something,or changine their physical characteristics and what not..neh,dont think so.

I see know that same thing as being Socially Adapt. Instinctual interaction, with structured civil dynamics, socio-science.

Dab and Oceana I have the upmost respect for the two of you and there are a few more on here that I actually treasure their opinions. I am trying to understand the meaning of it all. I mean I understand the vibrations and altering moods and feelings.

Take a charismatic speaker he can alter the entire rooms moods or coerse their decisions with just his own vibrations and mood.

They weren't wrong when they said voice and words combined properly can be a weapon among peoples. I honestly don't remembe who said this but I thought it was awesome.

Tone, pitch, and gesture. Timing of phrases, pace, pause. Example a trait of an oratator is when they pause they leave the members of the audience relating.

A new face in a group is not cimpletely out of sync with a core group. Transference, and social ritual, for those that may not have the "social rite of of passage", or bonding. A preexisting raport. Sub-cultural adaptations ,and society Uniformity add to the "fine tuning" .

My opinion: Merging completely with another mind is not possible to the degree I think you're thinking.

If it was...I would have no interest in it because such a thing would remove all the mystery involved in getting to know another individual. It might even cause you to cease seeing them as an individual different from yourself at all, who is to say you would be able to keep what is them, and what is yourself separate?

I like people with mystery to them. I dont think it's necessary to understand other people to that degree. It almost seems invasive to try. I have no interest in controlling other people either. I have enough to do just controlling myself. Anyone else is more headache than I want or need.

Wow, this thread has gone to seed in a drastic way.

The intention of my original post was not to question the possibility of telepathy or the act of merging itself.

The conundrum I pose, is that it is not possible to wholly experience the state of another, while consciously observing.

If you were to merge wholly without your conscious self, you would become that person, and any comparative state would cease to exist. However if you continue to observe, then you would be filtering what you percieve through your own state of consciousness...it would merely be an interpretation.

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"If you were to merge wholly without your conscious self, you would become that person, and any comparative state would cease to exist. However if you continue to observe, then you would be filtering what you percieve through your own state of consciousness...it would merely be an interpretation."

Well why didnt you just say so? lol I would imagine a number of people here probably know that. It's a common experience with other people, that there is always someone who will attempt to blind themselves to facets of your personality they dont understand and have no interest in doing so. Pretty much making their acceptance of you fractional and on their terms, not your own.

It's really annoying when people do that. It can also be interesting to see what happens when you make a habit of stepping outside the box people like this will try to put you into.

;)

I believe it's possible to see what others have seen before hand. taking control maybe not so much.




Lady horror

Perhaps you wanted to detect what the jocks where plotting next.

One would likely need to surrender something to "merge", then it would be more thought merger only.Example sci-fi interfacing computures with organisms.

How did this thread go to seed, I see it as expanding the span.

Decembers N makes a valid summary.

I think to merge with another, that you would do it with total awareness, in order to be incontrol actually and to know how they tick so to speak and still know and understand once done, otherwise why are you doing it if you cannot remember or know what has taken place during the merger.. just a thought or opinion ..

I think it is possible. We would have to be very well skilled telepaths. The result would be immeasurable. To connect with one another and share all we have would mean sharing the information, perspectives, the knowledge. Just imagine sharing everything, and getting the same in return. You would walk away with a life time of knowledge. The wisest thing would be for all the humanity to undergo the process, connecting with everybody at the same time. Every body would become a genius in an instant. One year would mean ten thousand years of progress. The human species would evolve rapidly, and soon enough know everything around and beyond.

I get what you are saying, I think. In order to completely experience another person's mind, emotions, and feelings just as they do, how could you retain any of your own concuseness? You couldn't because they couldn't? If I completely become you than I am no longer me, therefore I am not immersing myself in your consiness, because I am you.

Am I understanding the original question properly?

Either way, now my head hurts from too much thinking.

Image maker great post, Crying dutchess I do think twins have the apt to feel and even merge the minds. their is some document cases of this.

yet for me to merge into well dabblers mind, no not plasable. the realm of concious and unconcious state. No to many variables for this. yet some report leaving their bodies for short times in death or relaxation.

Yet to inhabit another soul and know or think for them, possesions of demons or such. hehe ok , NOT.

I would liken it to projecting a live feed from my daily routine , directly to Cadre, while viewing my live feed, he has to negotiate his daily routine. Only when he pauses can he " emerse" himself in watching my feed. Now compound that by including every stray thought, taste, touch.. Ect.

We hardly interact with each other as it is in society. Our minds are the last secret place we have, what spammers do to the Internet, can be done eventually with thought merger, let alone mind merging.
How many people would you allow to interconnect to your computer? Or would you base that decision on what you had to gain from their computer, in exchange?

Dabbler once agin your thoughts have been stolen from my mind...lol

No but good representation of the computer, for no one would we allow to evade our own, and thoughts of our life and history would be all knowing, huh,

hope my old girlfriends don't start getting frantic for the post would be on the hustler channel.

You think identity theft is a problem now, imagine while you merged with a
Known person, someone spliced in to the transaction.

I can get peoples PIN numbers pretty easily with mental prompts, just think if a better hustler had access to not only your memories, but like a told a guy who didn't long off his e- mail account at a public computer, he said" It hardly matters to me." I simple mentioned it may not matter to you, but think of the others you know that messaged you on that account, all their info, and a back stage pass, if I had the notion to scam them, it would have chased back to him, by his account. So a mind to an amature would be cluttered, yet for a seasoned person that knows what to go after, access to their mind is not needed, just a moment with their thoughts..