Ok today in phycology we had a guest speaker. her name was shelly and she had multiple personallity disorder. She claimed to have 115 alter personallitys. now if it werent for my special talents i would have thought this woman was a complete fake. i do think she has alter personallitys but 115 is a little hard to belive. my phycology professor told me that over twenty alters is unusual and doctors will say you are a foney. now the point of this tale is dont we all have alter personallitys that come out in certan siuations like people with MPD? is MPD even justified or any other one of these fake diorders that people use nowadays to claim insanity to get paid with no work. I mean everyone claims there crazy nowadays theres even a phobia of penutbutter stucking to the roof of your mouth!
get paid with out work...and all you have to do is be crazy?
SIGN ME UP, BOSS!
I guess your right. People do tend to have a few different personalities. Most people tend to act differently around certain friends than they would other friends.
I think you're right, that many personalities is pretty extreme. I won't get into the whole psychology stuff just because I have a lot of issues with it haha.
I'm bipolar. I guess by most people's definitions that makes me crazy. When I'm having an extreme mood swing, I can seem like a completely different person. MPD can be a legitimate issue, but I don't think ANY psychological disorder should get you disability checks. I know there are exceptions to every rule - but 115 personalities? Give me a break...
It seems that the more pills we come up with to treat some things the more Issues we have and mental disorders appear. The world is quickly becoming paranoid and over medicated.
OK first off over a hundred personalites is a bit extreme I admit that.
Now everyone has a "different personality" at certian times However... they are the same person. I mulitple personlity has completely different ideas as if they were in a different body. And if you get dissablity.. you have had to sometime in your life work a job.
So it not like they say and make up things to set on there ass and get money. Or is this really about cause you are upset or mad cause you can't sit on your ass do nothing and get paid????
MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DISORDER
Just about everyone nowadays is familiar with the concept of multiple personality disorder from having seen movies like The Three Faces of Eve or Sybil. A multiple personality disorder is essentially the coexistence within an individual person of two or more distinct and different personality states. A personality can be defined as a relatively constant and consistent pattern of experiencing, relating to, and thinking about one's environment and one's self. In multiple personality disorder there is fragmentation into several personalities each of which may have its own unique memories, behavior patterns, and social relationships. The number of personalities may vary from two to over one hundred with occasional cases of extreme complexity. At least two of the personalities, at some time and recurrently, take full control of the personπs behavior, The transition from one personality to another is usually sudden over a few seconds or minutes but rarely may be gradual over hours to days. The transition is often triggered by stress or some meaningful environmental cue. Transitions may occur when there are conflicts within the person among the different personalities. Personalities may be aware of some of the other personalities and even experience the other personalities as friends, companions, or adversaries. Some of the personalities may be aware of the existence of the other personalities but not have any direct interaction with them while some may be unaware of the existence of the others. At any given moment, only one personality interacts with the external world and the other personalities may actively listen in on or influence what is going on. The personality that presents itself for treatment often has little or no knowledge of the existence of the other personalities. Most often there is an awareness of lost periods of time or distortions in the experience of time. Some admit to these experiences if asked, but few volunteer such information because they fear being called liars or being considered crazy. Others are unaware of their amnestic experiences or make up memories to cover the amnestic periods. The individual personalities may be quite different in attitude, behavior and self-image and may even represent extreme opposites. For example, a quiet retiring spinster may alternate with a flamboyant promiscuous bar fly. At different periods in the person's life any of the different personalities may vary in the proportion of time that they control the person's behavior. One or more of the personalities may function with a reasonable degree of adaptation while alternating with another personality that is clearly dysfunctional. Different personalities may have different eyeglass prescriptions, different responses to the same medication, and different levels of intelligence. One or more of the personalities may report being of the opposite sex, of a different race or age, or from a different family than the other personalities. One or more the personalities may be aware of hearing or having heard the voices of one or more of the other personalities, or may report having talked with or engaged in activities with one or more of the other personalities. Most often personalities have proper names, usually different from the first name, and sometimes different from both the first and last names, of the individual. Often the names have symbolic meaning. Onset of multiple personality disorder is almost invariably in childhood but most cases do not come to clinical attention until much later usually in adult life. The disorder tends to be chronic, although over time the frequency of switching between the personalities often decreases. The degree of impairment varies from mild to severe, depending primarily on the nature of and relationships among the personalities and only secondarily on their number. Complications include suicide attempts, self-mutilation and other violent behavior, and substance abuse. The disorder is almost always preceded by sexual and/or physical abuse or other forms of severe emotional trauma in childhood. The disorder is not nearly as rare as it had commonly been thought to be. It is diagnosed from three to nine times more often in women than in men.
http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~corelli/shortworks.html#MULTIPLE
BORDERLINE PERSONALITY DISORDERS
A person with a borderline personality disorder often experiences a repetitive pattern of disorganization and instability in self-image, mood, behavior and close personal relationships. This can cause significant distress or impairment in friendships and work. A person with this disorder can often be bright and intelligent, and appear warm, friendly and competent. They sometimes can maintain this appearance for a number of years until their defense structure crumbles, usually around a stressful situation like the breakup of a romantic relationship or the death of a parent.
Relationships with others are intense but stormy and unstable with marked shifts of feelings and difficulties in maintaining intimate, close connections. The person may manipulate others and often has difficulty with trusting others. There is also emotional instability with marked and frequent shifts to an empty lonely depression or to irritability and anxiety. There may be unpredictable and impulsive behavior which might include excessive spending, promiscuity, gambling, drug or alcohol abuse, shoplifting, overeating or physically self-damaging actions such as suicide gestures. The person may show inappropriate and intense anger or rage with temper tantrums, constant brooding and resentment, feelings of deprivation, and a loss of control or fear of loss of control over angry feelings. There are also identity disturbances with confusion and uncertainty about self-identity, sexuality, life goals and values, career choices, friendships. There is a deep-seated feeling that one is flawed, defective, damaged or bad in some way, with a tendency to go to extremes in thinking, feeling or behavior.
Under extreme stress or in severe cases there can be brief psychotic episodes with loss of contact with reality or bizarre behavior or symptoms. Even in less severe instances, there is often significant disruption of relationships and work performance. The depression which accompanies this disorder can cause much suffering and can lead to serious suicide attempts. It is a common disorder with estimates running as high as 10-14% of the general population. The frequency in women is two to three times greater than men. This may be related to genetic or hormonal influences. An association between this disorder and severe cases of premenstrual tension has been postulated. Women commonly suffer from depression more often than men. The increased frequency of borderline disorders among women may also be a consequence of the greater incidence of incestuous experiences during their childhood. This is believed to occur ten times more often in women than in men, with estimates running to up to one-fourth of all women. This chronic or periodic victimization and sometimes brutalization can later result in impaired relationships and mistrust of men and excessive preoccupation with sexuality, sexual promiscuity, inhibitions, deep-seated depression and a seriously damaged self-image. There may be an innate predisposition to this disorder in some people. Because of this there may ensue subsequent failures in development in the relationship between mother and infant particularly during the separation and identity-forming phases of childhood.
Treatment includes psychotherapy which allows the patient to talk about both present difficulties and past experiences in the presence of an empathetic, accepting and non-judgemental therapist. The therapy needs to be structured, consistent and regular, with the patient encouraged to talk about his or her feelings rather than to discharge them in his or her usual self-defeating ways. Sometimes medications such as antidepressants, lithium carbonate, or antipsychotic medication are useful for certain patients or during certain times in the treatment of individual patients. Treatment of any alcohol or drug abuse problems is often mandatory if the therapy is to be able to continue. Brief hospitalization may sometimes be necessary during acutely stressful episodes or if suicide or other self-destructive behavior threatens to erupt. Hospitalization may provide a a temporary removal from external stress. Outpatient treatment is usually difficult and long-term - sometimes over a number of years. The goals of treatment could include increased self-awareness with greater impulse control and increased stability of relationships. A positive result would be in one's increased tolerance of anxiety. Therapy should help to alleviate psychotic or mood-disturbance symptoms and generally integrate the whole personality. With this increased awareness and capacity for self-observation and introspection, it is hoped the patient will be able to change the rigid patterns tragically set earlier in life and prevent the pattern from repeating itself in the next generational cycle.
http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~corelli/shortworks.html#MULTIPLE
What are the symptoms of schizophrenia?
No one symptom positively identifies schizophrenia. All of the symptoms of this illness can also be found in other brain disorders. For example psychotic symptoms may be caused by the use of drugs, may be present in individuals with Alzheimer’s Disease, or may be characteristics of a manic episode in bipolar disorder. However, when a doctor sees the symptoms of schizophrenia and carefully asseses the history and the course of the illness over six months, he or she can almost always make a correct diagnosis.
The symptoms of schizophrenia are generally divided into three categories, including positive, disorganized and negative symptoms.
Positive Symptoms, or "psychotic" symptoms, include delusions and hallucinations because the patient has lost touch with reality in certain important ways. "Positive" as used here does not mean "good." Rather, it refers to having overt symptoms that should not be there. Delusions cause the patient to believe that people are reading their thoughts or plotting against them, that others are secretly monitoring and threatening them, or that they can control other people's minds. Hallucinations cause people to hear or see things that are not there.
Disorganized Symptoms include confused thinking and speech, and behavior that does not make sense. For example, people with schizophrenia sometimes have trouble communicating in coherent sentences or carrying on conversations with others; move more slowly, repeat rhythmic gestures or make movements such as walking in circles or pacing; and have difficulty making sense of everyday sights, sounds and feelings.
Negative Symptoms include emotional flatness or lack of expression, an inability to start and follow through with activities, speech that is brief and lacks content, and a lack of pleasure or interest in life. "Negative" does not, therefore, refer to a person's attitude, but to a lack of certain characteristics that should be there.
Schizophrenia is also associated with changes in cognition. These changes affect the ability to remember and to plan for achieving goals. Also, attention and motivation are diminished. The cognitive problems of schizophrenia may be important factors in long term outcome.
Schizophrenia also affects mood. Many individuals affected with schizophrenia become depressed, and some individuals also have apparent mood swings and even bipolar-like states. When mood instability is a major feature of the illness, it is called, schizoaffective disorder, meaning that elements of schizophrenia and mood disorders are prominently displayed by the same individual. It is not clear whether schizoaffective disorder is a distinct condition or simply a subtype of schizophrenia.
http://www.nami.org/Template.cfm?Section=By_Illness&template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=7416
Ok, sorry about the long info, but it seems that too many people like to claim one or other of these three and don't know what they really mean. And yes I think that too damn many people try to get away with saying they have one of them as an excuse to get fre money from the government. That the WORKING tax payers give form their paychecks. I lived in Georgia, and in the town I lived in, I swear probably half the town claimed to have one of these and there for got their money. No I'm not bashing those who truly do have this. But I think it goes along the lines of so many kids these days who are being diagnosed as ADD or ADHD ... uhm back when I grew up, and was in classes and unruley child they never said I was ADD or ADHD, no offense to anyone, but I think it's a load of crap used by parents and teachers that don't know how, or don't want to teach their kids manners. Why is it that doctors think medicines are the cure for everything. When time and patients is what is needed. Not some damn pill that turns a kid into a friggin zombie. I once knew a woman who all she ever did was yell at her son for no reason and used Ritlin to control him. When if she jsut actually spoke to the kid he would have done whatever she asked. Ok, I guess now I'm jsut ranting so I'll stop ... Stop trying to make excuses to get government money so that you don't have to work, and stop giving your kids pills to control them like zombies, and show them a little love and care and attention....
Oh HellCHildDammi, I wanted to add here few words but I guess your info told everything...lol
wow alot of info but if you think about it we all have it
I am a gemini and am supposed to have two personalities. Maybe when Menopause kicks in I will give birth to more...lol
My other personality is a chijuajua painted up like Gene Simmons.
see like with me i know i get different personallitys all the time. like i have one when im with my friends or when im trying to impress a persone or applying for a job and so on but the big difference between me and people with MPD is i dont name my other personallitys. but like im not angrey because of the fact that i can sit on my ass all day because i enjoy my job im angrey because people claim new foarms of insanity every day and it gets rather annoying, i mean if you read the DSM (a book that has all the phycological disorders in it) i have like 25 different mentel illnesses that some people are getting paid for or locked up in mentel institutions. i am even clinically diagnosed with anxiety and panic disorder but it doesnt stop me from living my life and i dont complain about it. and i dont like it when people right me off as crazy but other people do and i just dont get it.
SOmetimes I can almost see myself putting on my different hats *Debbie puts on self-crticism hat* and swapping them for different ones to handle different situations. But is this all 'me' or is this separate 'people' that make me up, and are all waiting to have a go?
Some say that we cannot exist alone. Well maybe we never are, maybe there are so many people squeezed inside our heads...
*Debbie puts on mind-boggling hat*
I keep two things extremely important, my privacy and my security. Not saying too much here, but will happily add that my others have their own drawers of clothes, stuff like belongings, etc. I've never been diagnosed, but I will say a very dear friend of mine had it and he was diagnosed, needless to say we got along famously.
My two cents.
Nothing wrong with being a malkie!
;)
Thank you HellChildDami,
You have offered so much information that I want to truly say thank you with all the sincerity in the world.
*A gigantic hug for an unknown friend!!
Many blessings
Michelle
Fuck it!
Marcus
Anna
Arianna
Lilian
Lilith
and myself say thank you.
LadyLilian, you are the cutest thing ever!
*hugs*
MPD---> one of my psychology professors had it....isnt that ironic?
has anyone watched Ally McBeal?.....well...they had an episode on there of a case with a lady that had MPD....it was very interesting and kind of sad in the emd ....but these cases are very interesting...
anyone seen the movie "identity" or "fight club"? those movies deal with MPD....pretty good movies too if i may add.
my fiance is MPD or DID however you reconzie this dissorder is the same. I'm sorry I take offence to this thread. My fiance works and has always worked a job. He had never never went to get free money. Legally he can cause most of all MPD people have held a job at some point. I don't think it is fair of people to sit around and get free money cause I'd like to sit on my ass and do it to.. but one thing you have to keep in mind these people have had to work at sometime in there life. This develops at childhood HOWEVER.. not diagonised until they are usually in the early 20's. I have borderline personlity dissorder and I still work. And many people that I know that are MPD or BPD or any other of the ones that Dami named have had jobs and I might add very good jobs.. If you don't understand the dissorders I'm sorry for YOU.. For you will never understand.. If anyone wishes to talk with someone that has any of these dissorders.. Message me for I can let you talk to some of my closess friends and tell them that thier dissorder is not real!!!
ahhh the joys of a psychology student with a new DSM ... didnt they warn you within the first week of classes 1. do NOT try to diagnos your friends 2. try not to find your faults!
Every 1st and 2nd year students always seem to think they have 10 or more disorders becuz of the traits from different disorders show proof in there every day lives.... Just remember don't belive everything you read .. and dont speculate on yourself nor friends/family ... seek help if ya think your dangerious *smirks* :)
lol nic. I'm not dangerous well unless pushed.. and people I know with these dissorders were diagnosed from doctors.. I've taken Pychology my freshman year in high school.. so it's been awhile since I have really read some things about it. Other than sites that go to.
*perks an eyebrow at whiteflamevamp* what about bitten :) *rubs her hands together* well darling I wasn't posting to point atchu! Actually the first part was for spikesgirl1520 ... but I do however agree and never stated that people with disorders do hold down perfictly good jobs and I agree they shouldnt try to get outta working so they can sit home .. not unless they could potentially be a danger to society .. but then they should be in a hospital right?*shrugs*
hehe.. well I know you were not posting that at me.. just adding me say.. Some should be hospilized most diffently. I know of some that should. However there are some that can still fuction as "society" sees they should. There are times that they have episodes.. But what do I know.. I'm one of the "crazies" LOL
im not saying that there arnt people who have legitimate mentel disieses im saying that the fakes that say that they have chronic farting disiese and can sadly no longer work so must claim disabillity. im not saying that people with mentel disorders cant function normally in society either and im sorry if it came out wrong. what im saying is im mad at people who do fake it and i think that there are way too many people out there trying to find a name for something that everyone has expirnced so that they can feel special or so that they can get attention.
I am a borderline personality disorder. All my friends tell me that including one that is a therapist.... Explains alot. heh
ahh I see.. I don't think it's right for people to come up with stupid crap just so they don't have to work either. I wish I could sit on my ass and get paid to do nothing sometimes. hehe Sorry I take a diffence to things like that. I always have I have been called a liar for somethings that has happened to me. So I try to keep this under control. I'm sorry if you thought that is was just directed at you for it was not. It was for everyone to hear.
*runs away*
WhiteFlameVamp, I wish you wouldn't run away. It's great that everyone has an opinion, good or otherwise.
First I'd like to say, it's taken a LOT of courage for me to write in this. But I would like to say I agree to not to diagnose yourself or others...true true. However.....It is a very good point to say that many that do have it are quite capable of holding jobs and actively contribute to society (without holding a threat to others.)
Yes, everyone has problems. But I find this thread absolutely fascinating because it mentions about "Borderline/full blown/ to oh my god! phases of MPD."
thanks
My favorite little saying is that "I'll never be alone or lonely." *happy smiles. I'm an adult with a good job, an incredible man who understands me ;) and a wonderful home. So my friends in my head interact, at least I'm the driver of the bus.
WhiteFlameVamp i know exactly were you are comming from with people thinking your lieing when you tell them something. i love it when im spilling my guts to someone and they say "that didnt happen" or "no you didnt" i just say ya my mistake i forgot you know all. sometimes people can be so wierd i mean if i was going to lie id pick something good like i had sex with villie valo or something.
ok...lets just leave this disscussion with this, MPS is not the real name of the disorder, its dissociative personality disorder. Furthermore, the key point is that not a single case has been totaly verified beyond the shadown of scientific doubt, so most psychiatrists and psychologists wount go near the thing. The probelem with this disorder is that its an individual with seprate identitites, not personalitites...so its like having a ahndful of people in one mind..sep people, sep persoanlities, sep identities, and none aware of the others.
sleeper.. if you read all my post you see that I do say DID.. also with them have completly different "persoanilties" or "identities"
and as far as the movies they don't really do justice to those that have DID or MPD.
i do think i have different PERSONALITY like when i get mad or sad or happy and when i'm tried i act crazy....but i wont every go get help for it everyone was this i believe ....and 115 is a little hard to believe...but it could happen...but i dont think people should claim crazy so they can get money with out working...beucase there are some messed up people in the world.
having 115 personnalities kills the multiple personnality disorder...
hard to explain, i'm no psycholog...
having few personnalities makes sens, feeling like having so much makes me doubt about it, it's more like having an unstable temper, changing mood 4 no reason...
115 personalities? Someone taking people for a ride here.
Nothing is impossible, only very very improbable.
And LadyLilian, It is good to be the driver of the bus. I agree with that. *grin*
*wags her bus driver's license*
*applauds WhiteflameVamp* you have said it the best from start to finish. I watched a program recently about this disorder and this women had about 3/4.. and it was very touching and very emmotional thing to watch, never mind to have or to deal with. What i saw was a 40 year old women, who would go from being a 40 yrs old women to a 4 yeard old kind, to a teenager, etc.. and with every oter 'person' she was exactly t6hat, a change of voice and the chance in behaviouv exactly associated with who she 'changed' into. It was very sad to watch, as she really had no control over her lives and she did not seem to know when she was in and out of persons.. hence, she will never ever know who she really is.. and that must be very frustrating/depreesing to deal with.
Thanks Requiem. Just watch out for those potholes, its makes everyone in the back go flying!
i ♥ all my personalities. They're all very special to me.
im only joking, no worries.
wait, am i ?
* bites lip *
Dhampir that sounds excatly how it truley is. You change suddenly without little or no notice. Like being tossed out of your own body.
AS for everyone that thinks you have "multiple personalities" I don't think you do.. Please people everyone has a different ADITUTE when around someone. that is LIFE. But sayin well because I"m this way with one person and an other with that.. THIS IS WHAT I CALL MASKS. EVERYONE wears a mask during sertin things. I mean you would start laughing your ass of when someone dies that you are not related to what so ever. only reason you went was because it was a friends cousin she or he never met.
NOW there are people the milk the system I so very much agree. BUT IF you don't understand the dissorder PLEASE don't call people fakes. YOu may never know and hopefully you will never have to know what us people go through. It is not fun and if the people that are getting federal aid is because the court system deemed in nessary. you wouldn't want someone that is DID serving your food would you. THe reason they let them is so they don't have to be out in "socity" We are so cruel to people we don't understand or care about. If you think I'm a bitch of saying what I feel then I am sorry for you. For people with small closed minds don't understand anything outside what THEY want..........
I know I take offense to this thread.
I have been diagnosed with MPD
I have worked and made damn good money
Have also not worked and scrambled for next meals.
Difference as I see it between a true MPD case and the lots of personality people is someone with MPD has completely seperate lives inside one head. Try integrating two sets of memories that are radically different sometime.
Its not a game its not something you watch a movie about and suddenly wow that explains it.
It is a nightmare a very very bad one.
Those lucky enough to be functional have to find ways of dealing with all of the people usually through "integration" or as I like to refer to it as murdering the self that is less functional.
When you have to ask other people what the facts are because you watched it play from completely different ways when you dont know who someone is but they swear you are best of friends
This is something the media finds fun
Well although it certainly feels like my life is someone's sick idea of drama or soap opera it isnt nor shall it be
MPD is still there even after years of therapy to become function even after murdering your other Self
So laugh and play
I will always be insane
wonderful thread.......
absolutely fabulous....
oh Dami....it's RITALIN
nasty stuff....didn't like it much....
but I agree...115 different personalities......
I call bullshit.....anything over 30 I would largely question.....