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PheaR
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if any one is interested here is a link to a site were varius authers of vampire books answer some question as to there belief/views on truth or fiction and there views on what is a vampire

http://www.eclipse.net/~srudy/myths/vampire_myths.html




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BlooDAngeL11
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I`ll check it out sometimes



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i'll check it out sometime



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Wow...some people may care...I do...I like to know what people think of my kind...



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Indulgence
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ill look in a while



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eh id rather not



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xtroublex
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Writers are entitled to their opinion just as much as anyone else.



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danzig1330
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I think it would be interesting to see what they have to say. Despite what most would say most of us are interested in vampires because we read about them first or watched them on T.V.



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Ive been there once or twice its a good site



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Bloodravenlove
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I'll check it out sometime



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ElyriaBloodshadow
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I think it would be interesting to compare the way the various authors portray the vampire characters in their writings and what their own personal beliefs on the matter are as well.

I think the site could be interesting and will most certainly look at it when I have the time.



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LadySmitthms
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04:42:42 Dec 18 2005
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Cool link, thanks for providing it.
~Lady~



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ElyriaBloodshadow
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And a sincere thank you to whichever staff member just removed that offensive post from the thread.



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Or perhaps you could ask some of the members that are published the following as but a single example:



Profile for vampwriter1369


vampwriter1369




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CocaineLipgloss
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writers are entitled to their opinions as well as everyone else...



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XsyntheticheavenX
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Everyone has thier own views....but listening to someone else wont kill anyone...



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danzig1330
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I just checked it out. Unless I missed something all I saw was table of traits or characteristic and a comparison between which author's vampires had them. I didn't see anything as far as an authors own opinions on the matter. The site does have some nice links to various authors home pages though.



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DrakonicDarkness
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it should be interesting.



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09:12:06 Dec 18 2005
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well, i feel it is only healthy that we all have our own opinions



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In a way the results were expectibile.



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Since my own books were not included (imagine that!), I went ahead and filled out the survey on my own:

General
Vampires are inherently evil No
Vampires are a kind of undead No
Vampires are 'normal' humans, just altered No
Vampires are a different species (subspecies) than humans Yes
Vampirism can be cured No
Identifying features
Vampire skin is unnaturally pale and cold to the touch No
The pallor and coldness decreases after feeding N/A
Vampires are hideously deformed No
Vampires tend to have long and pointed fingernails No
Vampires have claws/talons No
Vampires gain monstrous aspects when angered, stressed, using vampiric abilities, etc. (e.g. glowing eyes or deformed features) Slightly
Vampires change appearance when angered, stressed, using vampiric abilities, etc. (e.g. flushed or less dead-looking) No
A vampire's heart beats. Yes
A vampire's heart only beats if the vampire wills it to N/A
Vampires need to breathe No, but they do
Vampires, in fact, don't breathe, unless they consciously intend to N/A
You become a vampire by
... being killed by one (normally via blood loss) (with no further action necessary) No
... drinking (or being injected by) a vampire's blood (without dying first) No
... suffering fatal blood loss and drinking (or being injected by) a vampire's blood Yes
... dying after being bitten by or drinking from a vampire No
... dying after repeatedly being bitten by or drinking from a vampire No
... participating in some sort of ritual No
... committing suicide, dying unbaptized/apostate, not being buried in consecrated ground, etc No
... being the victim of an explicit curse No
... being born that way No
... getting infected by some kind of 'virus' sort of
The subject must be willing for the transformation to be effective. No
The new vampire appears dead for some time (often 3 days) before rising No
A newly made vampire will wake ravenous and will tend to attack anyone within range (unless fed as part of the process) No
Killing/Hurting Vampires
A stake through the heart causes permanent death No
A stake must be made of special wood to be effective (e.g. ash or rowan or whitethorn) No
A stake must be made of special wood to be effective (e.g. from the true cross) No
A stake through the heart causes paralysis only Yes
A stake must be made of wood to be effective. Yes
Sunlight causes nearly instant combustion and is nearly always fatal No
Sunlight causes severe burns and discomfort and is fatal after extended exposure No
Sunlight inflicts no or mild (sunburn) damage Yes
Sunlight must be direct to be effective No
Any UV source (e.g. tanning lamps) will function the same as real sunlight No
Sunblock provides some protection from sunlight No
Sunblock provides total protection from sunlight No
Vampires suffer more than usual damage from fire Yes
If invulnerable to normal attack, fire is one of the few substances that will harm a vampire Yes
Vampires suffer more than usual damage from silver No
If invulnerable to normal attack, silver is one of the few substances that will harm a vampire No
Vampires suffer more than usual damage from wood No
If invulnerable to normal attack, wood is one of the few substances that will harm a vampire No
Beheading causes permanent death Yes
It takes special effort to make a vampire stay dead (e.g. cutting off the head, sewing the mouth shut around a clove of garlic and burying the body at a crossroads) Yes
Dead vampires disperse to dust regardless of age No
Dead vampires decompose/disintegrate as a function of age No
Vampires become more resistant to these methods as a function of age No
Animals
Vampires can be sustained by animal blood No
Vampires can be sustained indefinitely by animal blood (without suffering deleterious side effects) No
Animals can become vampires No
Animals can gain vampiric traits or be otherwise affected by drinking vampire blood. N/A
Vampires have control over animals No
Vampires have control only over specific animals No
Vampires can summon certain animals No
Animals can sense vampires and feel threatened by them Maybe
When you are bitten by a vampire (and live) ...
... they gain some power over you No
you acquire some vampiric traits No
When you drink from a vampire (without being dead first) ...
... they gain some power over you sometimes
... you acquire some vampiric traits Yes
Fangs
Vampires have fangs Yes
Fangs are retractable No
Fangs are hollow (sucking) No
Fangs are hollow (injecting) No
Invitations
Vampires require an invitation to enter a private dwelling (of the living) No
That invitation can be simply retracted N/A
That invitation can be retracted, but requires special procedures (e.g. specific wording or a spell) N/A
Crosses ...
... repel vampires No
... require the belief of the wielder to repel vampires N/A
... are more effective in the hands of believers N/A
... require the belief of the vampire to repel vampires N/A
... if effective, burns vampiric flesh on contact N/A
... if effective, burns everything on contact N/A
... may be replaced with other religious symbols according to the belief system of the wielder and/or vampire N/A
... are ineffective Yes
... only have a psychosomatic effect (that is, they only work if the vampire believes that they should work) possibly
Holy Water
... is ineffective Yes
... if effective, burns (like acid) and can cause severe damage in quantity N/A
... can reverse or halt effects of vampiric attack No
Eucharistic wafers can be substituted for/function similarly to holy water No
Mirrors
Vampires have no reflection in mirrors or water No
Vampires leave no image on photographs or on film No
Vampires are repulsed by mirrors No
Daytime
Vampires are completely nonfunctional (e.g asleep or corpselike) during the day only by choice
If at all awake, vampires are sluggish during the day No
Vampires can function normally during the day, provided they avoid the sun No
Vampires can function normally during the day (without exception) Yes
Vampires can function normally during the day, but without their vampiric abilities No
Only the oldest/most powerful vampires can function during the day No
Supernatural Abilities
Damage resistance, high strength and fast healing Yes
Truly supernatural strength (like throwing cars) No
Superhuman perception (e.g. sight, hearing, mystical) Yes
Hypnotic mind control sometimes
The mind control requires eye contact No
Shapeshifting (often a wolf or bat) No
Mist or intangible form No
Ability to move through solid/airtight objects sometimes
Superhuman speed Yes
Flight/Levitation No
Inhuman stealth (Sometimes to the point of invisibility) No
Control over weather No
Saliva has healing properties (usually used to close bite marks) Yes
Miscellaneous Supernatural Restrictions
Vampires are repelled by garlic No
Vampires no longer need 'regular' food Yes
Vampires are not physiologically able to eat solid food. No
Vampires can no longer eat or drink at all (other than blood) No
Vampires can eat or drink, but get nothing out of it Yes
Vampires can become intoxicated by directly ingesting drugs or alcohol Yes
Vampires can become intoxicated by drugs or alcohol secondhand (e.g. by drinking from an intoxicated victim) sometimes
Vampires must sleep with a sample of their home soil No
Vampires cannot cross running water No
Vampires cannot cross a line of salt No
Vampires are compelled to stop and count numerous objects (often grain) thrown into their path No
Hierarchy/Society
Vampires are societally compelled to obey their sire/creator Yes
Vampires are mystically compelled to obey their sire/creator Yes
Beyond the 'generic', vampires tend to have the same supernatural traits/abilities as their sire/creator Yes
Older vampires will, on occasion, weed out the population of younger vampires maybe
Vampires are loners that cannot abide to share territory No
Relationship with Other Supernaturals (especially Shapeshifters)
Vampires and Werewolves (shapeshifters) are natural allies N/A
Vampires and Werewolves (shapeshifters) are natural enemies N/A
Vampires and Werewolves (shapeshifters) could care less about each other N/A
Werewolf (shapeshifter) blood is extra yummy N/A
Werewolf (shapeshifter) blood is indigestible N/A
Vampires can be infected with lycanthropy (become werewolves, etc.) N/A
Werewolves (shapeshifters) can become vampires N/A
Werewolves (shapeshifters) can become vampires (but lose all of their were abilities) N/A
Age and Power Level
Old vampires tend to be stronger than newer ones Yes
Old vampires tend to be stronger but generally just because the strong ones are better at not getting killed not necessarily
Vampires get stronger as they age Yes
A vampire's strength varies according to the strength of their 'sire' No
A vampire can become stronger by drinking from another vampire No
Something about the person as a pre-vampire mortal has an effect on the powers/power level of the vampire No
Vampires appear the age at which they became a vampire Yes
Vampires age (physically) No
Miscellaneous
When a vampire feeds, it is fatal (to the donor) not usually
Being fed on is pleasurable for the human victim possibly
Blood must be 'fresh' (from a living person, not stored or refrigerated) No
Vampires must drink blood frequently (at least once every day) Yes
Vampires feed on something other than blood (life essence, emotions, etc) Yes
The blood of other vampires is more sustaining or more powerful than that from a mortal No
A vampire is 'frozen' at the moment of conversion. That is, hair and nails can be neither shortened nor lengthened, tattoos don't stick, etc. Yes
A vampire is immune to mortal diseases Yes
A vampire can no longer contract mortal diseases, but can still be a carrier maybe
Vampires are still sexually functional Yes
Only women vampires are still sexually functional No
Vampires can bear children No
Vampires can father children No
A child of a vampire and a mortal results in a 'Dhampir', with some vampiric abilities and fewer of the weaknesses N/A
Vampires actively conceal their existence from mortal society Mostly



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vampwriter1369
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I'm definitely going to have to check that site out. Perhaps I will add my thoughts.

And thanks for pimpin me Sidhe. If any of you care to know what this author thinks, feel free to message me.



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TheSource
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Ill definatly check it out, thanks a bunch



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I'll check it out..sometime



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Thanks for posting!!

It's so interesting to know the theories in other people's heads. :)



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08:55:19 Dec 19 2005
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I always find it interesting to learn how other people think. Thanks



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i'm off yo check the website :P



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interesting site...tnx for sharing it. bdw in the other post i made, i meant to say: i'm off TO not i'm off yo...sorry



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LaMuerte
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Thank you DkillR. I will check out the site.
ElderDaniel,darkfantasywriter, and others, I hope to read your books sometime soon.



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This is a very unique point of view. My thanks for the opportunity to paruse it. It was very informative.



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PheaR
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03:43:17 Dec 21 2005
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my sincer apoligies to the authors on the VR site, for not consaulting you (smiles)
i have yet to meet you all and look foeward to doing so

bows 2u all

but it looks like you may be able to set up something together and i wish you well in doing so



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thanx for the info.



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Awesome thanks! i'm going haveto check that out!



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Very good information; it's faily conclusive. Yes, it may help some people in the writing of their books.
Most of the things, however, I've come across over the years. That site brings everything together, though.
Anyone who wants to write anything relating to vampires might want to check that site out....



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