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When do you share your beliefs,philosopy,or practice with others? Why? How do you share.




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I share when I'm approached by someone and asked about it. I'll answer any question truthfully.



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How do you relate your beliefs? Who do you not share with?



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I share those things when I am close enough to a friend to discuss anything and everything.
Why? Well, if it comes up in conversation... a topic of my belief ...then I share. I never push my philosophy on anyone, but if asked I will tell my feelings on the subject.


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Very good idea for a thread, Dab. This is a question everyone should ask themselves who have any thoughts or beliefs. So many people do push there thoughts on others that their beliefs are the only right beliefs. Besides what I said above on my other profile, in answer to your extended question to Sarah of who is not shared with...for me the answer would be anyone who does not ask. I can not even imagine knocking on someones door and saying "Hello, my name is VB and I believe in...or I practice..."



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I'll share my beliefs with anyone who asks me about them. But If the person starts preaching that mine are wrong and theirs are right over and over without listening, I'll walk away.



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I like that, you refer to people competitive with their beliefs.. theirs vs. yours, fundimentalist are only intrested in the beliefs of others for the reason of "poking holes " in those beliefs, or philosopies.



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It's kind of ironic that fanatics like that are a major cause of violence. I remember a comic with two religious people, each holding a sign that states "More peace-loving than thou", about to round a corner into each-other. I believe it was titled "Prelude to a bloodbath"



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So the difference is between sharing, and debating.



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Exactly Sarah. Fanatics cause more problems than anything else.



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Actually Dab.. I think there is sharing, debating, and arguing.
Its when only one person is wanting to debate that it can turn into a pushing of beliefs type "argument". A debate can be healthy because all parties debating have chosen to debate.



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Fundementalist, actually nag at others who except liberal interpitations of shared text. This causes factions. The very reason I became an apostate, then a taoist, , then an atheist, then a non-theist. Even atheist have factions.



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When do you share your beliefs,philosopy,or practice with others? Why? How do you share.


Very good thread dear Dabbler;

I usually share when in conversation with others and many are interested in my beliefsand usually want to understand it or know why I have them. I am a person of strong convictions on certain things and will not and do not waiver from my convictions.

I can honestly say I come from family that was taught to lern and understand many different religions, The majority of my family line were raised either catholic or Southern Baptist.

YET we were taught that once we reached a certain age we should choose what we felt comfortable with. I have family that is Jewish, catholic, baptist, wiccan, hell so many and we respect eachothers beliefs and faith.

Not ever a dull moment for conversation when we all get together LOL

I am one who strongly believe that someone should not get baptisted, unless your gonna live the true *good* life, I mean so many people get baptised, yet, they are what I call the straddle the fence believers LOL

They drink and do things all week then go to church on sunday, HEY, if it works for you more power to ya. Myself I cannot do it, I will not even walk into a church with pants on I feel it is disrespectful no matter what the religion. THAT IS JUST ME.

I had a friend who wanted to see one of the oldest Cathedrals in St.Louis, and I had pants on and refused to go in with them they were shocked and my sister was like she has always had her own convictions on religion.. LOL

This why I talk to people because soem do not always get it or they just are that religion because of their parents etc. I feel Everyone should choose what gives them personally strenght in a faith they have and not just do because the rest do it.

I practice Wiccan and Iam proud of it because I am very nature freindly and believe in many things that the earth itself has to offer us and to respect the earth/ planet that we have been so generaously given.




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I agree Bonnie. In my opinion nobody should ever do more then explain their own beliefs. If someone agrees with your beliefs they'll ask a couple question then start thinking about believing the same. And if the don't agree, they can say there beliefs then walk away with their own beliefs. I think hat would probably stop over half the violence in the world.



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Some preach to berate others, they are instigators.

They preach out of bigotry, and to exalt themselves above not only nonbelievers, but those they deem lacking believers. *Shivers*



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if this thread hadn't been aracons, it would've been dabbler's or mine.. damn good question.

my problem with some, is their desire to hold their knowledge to thir bosom, crying 'mine, mine, mine'.

yet that said, some people who need help have little comprehension themselves; so you'd have to say it isn't quite right to share with them, just do-it-yourself, whatever they need. if they're deserving of course.

sorry I haven't answered the question: but I do see where you're coming from, just as usual, there is a flipside to consider dabbler. I think.



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Sad but true



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oops, my post went up with lag time. It was in response to Dabs last post.



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mebbe you did lass, but you were right to do so.
He's being erudite es ever.



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As a general rule I will share my beliefs with anyone who asks, sometimes in my journal too, but even there people have the choice to read or not.

However I would like to say that I have had some quite interesting conversations with people who hold different beliefs and have come knocking at my door.



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yes I agree that soem want to shove their beliefs down your throat or try to save your soul for you. LOL I am not one of them glad to say.

My dad used to tell us that many people should not ever talk Religion or politics it can end up in a very bitter war for some.

I am just willing to share or to learn if someone wishes to. :)



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A person with no, interest, or intent to engage in a relationship with another, that is cohersed by any means is suspect. Any person who acts directly, or indirectly to coherse them is suspect. This does not mean.. "black" or "white" magic, it is creating an mental illusion on another. it is applied pretense. The consequences are often predictable, as those who would be personality challenged, or want without out effort, or the chance of rejection..) will eventually sink the relationship that was built on a pretense. portions of any charms fall upon the weaver.



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portions of any charm fall upon the weaver..

.. oh, so right.

Hmmm> ??

Been thinking on this. I tend to meddle, trying to 'be helpful', an sometimes, just sometimes, I'll clue someone in, to something I think they should know.



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I don't share well with others...about anything. I don't trust people to begin with much less pouring out my soul to them. I only share things with people who are already close to me. I am a private person and I have been hurt too many times in the past. If you take the time to actually get to know me, and promise with your life not to stab me in the back (ha!) then I might share some things...



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I avoid sharing a lot of those things until I know someone really, really, really, really, really, really well.



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I'm with you birra, I tend to even pause when others ask what i subscribe to personally, I like when friends ask, " Are you a (insert what I subscribe to)?" It assures me that I am noted by my actions, rather then profession. I have even asked that question, and received an affirmative to my inquiry. Because those are the people that represent, rather then avow what they subscribe to.

even when I do share what I subscribe to I find people have a tendancy to act as if they know so much about it, all they want to do you blab about how they interprete what I practice.. and usually from the teachings of their faith..



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I'm with you birra, I tend to even pause when others ask what i subscribe to personally, I like when friends ask, " Are you a (insert what I subscribe to)?" It assures me that I am noted by my actions, rather then profession. I have even asked that question, and received an affirmative to my inquiry. Because those are the people that represent, rather then avow what they subscribe to.

even when I do share what I subscribe to I find people have a tendancy to act as if they know so much about it, all they want to do you blab about how they interprete what I practice.. and usually from the teachings of their faith..



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I am fairly open and will converse with most anyone that asks, we have a local meet up here the 3rd tuesday of every month where those that are curious or those that already have such interests come together and we chat about all things that are ging on, what type of thinsg we will do in the community such as we did a high way clean up planting flowers and cleaning up the garbage that careless people threw out the window of their vehicles



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I don't often share my beliefs.
I do, however, often share my thoughts.

My thoughts are often more controversial than my beliefs...
my beliefs often spawn thinking that, I do not take to seriously...
like cannibalism, polygamy with aliens, and why reaching to the back of the dairy case for milk is unethical (customers rarely appreciate any of these theories *laughs*)



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Usually I do not share with someone unless they ask..and even then-I will only go so deep..it all depends on the mindset of the person....only those closest to me will know EVERYTHING.



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As common sense would dictate, I share my philosophies, thoughts and ideals when the need arises. Nuff said.

Conversation is conversation. But good conversation is food for thought. This involves all areas of conversation. Give me a good discussion and or debate and I will give you hours of my time if the area of conversation is in good taste.



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A turn off for me is when people are out to convince others not of their belief, but of testimony of experiences, and fantastical events. iIcan relate to people wanting "after death" insurance. me personally I subscribe to life.. life with no deeper meaning.. deeper understanding yes.. but meaning.. no, this makes me a (?) . But when people tell me something sensational, and I opt not to be awestruck, then they get offended.. the conversation is over. It is no longer their faith they are promoting it is their ego grandstanding. I have seen this even as a church attending Christian, I have seen it among Spiritualist, and now here i see it among vamp(y)ires.



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Ah, you mean the self diluted individuals that think they are completely self important to start some sort of play that seems to be just out for themselves, just for the sake of making themselves look better then the rest?

Yeah, I know where you are coming from. I rather converse regarding philosophies that do not contradict ones selfish endeavors. Age old philosophies, not neo paths that the student just learned and think they have become a master of after a month of research and experience.

I speak of those that would give more then 20 years in the area and have expert knowledge, more then enough to pass through not within hours of conversations, but those of whom would be subject to keep bringing the conversation back for weeks on end without the boredom, but with interest based on differant aspects of such philosophies that keep the interest flowing for those 20 or so years.

Now thats real conversation...



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"I read a Pamphlet, written by a christian evangilist.. does that make me a _______?" This is how those with moderate faith, and context get so much fall-out. Satanism being a prime example, the rebelious apostates perpertuate urban legend, that bolsters those that crusade against alledged evil.




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Then the other pamphlet, since there is always two... "How do you feel about being a demon, in three easy lessons" Just for the sake of more derogatory remarks by those who would deem it nessessary to become zionist for their philosophical ways.

When in doubt, ask the religious. They should know, they are the persecutors after all.

(Note: None of this should be taken seriously as it is just for the sake of fun and games until someone pokes an eye out, "metaphorically" that is.

For those who did not understand the above... No offense should be taken, since it is directed at no one in particular.)



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any publication by an evagilist about any other faith, practice, or philosopy is not a reliable source for study.

HolySmoke.org

If a persons intent to share thier faith is to belittle anothers faith (or absence of faith) they are bigots.



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With friends and on VR because I like debates but I won't do it with everyone, at a work place for example I won't, because if they knew I am not religious I'd risk to get fired.



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Wait a minute ~Deathnite~, talking about theology may get you canned? What kind of B.S. is that for a work place environment?



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Actually, quite a common one SS. You would be supprised.



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I guess. I mean drug talk is one thing, but ones theological preferences? Damn, dude.



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Yes SS I live in a country where you can get fired from your job because you have a different religious belief from the rest. I know someone who got fired simply because she is the vocalist in a metal band, because it is associated with evil, satanism, etc... so she got fired for that.

Not something professional, and is supposedly to be illegal but it still happens.

In fact I've heard that even sites like Facebook get controlled to check the private life of employers.



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Morality Clauses exist in a large number of careers, and like everything else. The few set the standard for the many.



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Most workplaces restrict conversation about religeon, politics, and paychecks; because they lead to arguements, and feelings of superiority/unequality.

Even if two people are capable of having intelligent conversation on one of these topics without feelings of resentment and superiority arising, third parties, are often the culprits of a lot of trouble.

Usually, I find people with a lot of guilt aout their own behavior, the strongest defenders of the faith (be it politics, religeon, or work ethic,) and with the biggest ears.



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that is so wrong to get fired over a religious belief that a workplace would consider not of the norm, I think I would have to take them to court, freedom of speach and religion should always be upheld. Yet, I do understand where your coming from .

Society as a whole does not recognise many religions as the norm. So many think that there are only 2 kinds and that is just Bullhockey, in my opinion.



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It also depends where you live, that affects a lot. I can give out other examples of this, but I'd get political and that is not allowed here and I am not talking about one particular work place it's everywhere the same in this country.

Heck I don't even discuss many things with the family because I know they'd go beyond just disagreeing and the family is supposed to be the one who accepts you and supports you the most.

Again, where you live effects a lot.



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So would you conclude by any degree that demographic is a factor in who, and perhaps how you choose to share your beliefs?



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Are you concerned by the degrees of affiliation, as in Example: "If I tell the neigbors son, will the neigbors relay the info to an associate of a person I would rather not know.."



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very good point Dabbler. Nitegurl(sp) I am sorry that your country is like that yet even in the USA depends on the location as to state by state actions of crtain people or affiliations. I am nbot a trusting person so I would have to really knwo you before being *open Open* with someone.


we would think that the past would have taught the present to be more willing to learn or understand things that are different than what Society would consider the norm.*shakes head* just sad that people want to be ignorant and mean because soemone is different.



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I often encounter those who want others to be mystified by claimed experiences, experiences they declare are convincing. yet when I engage them in basic conversation regarding the tenents of their faith, or belief, the response is lacking in any substance.

The intent is clearly to grandize their claimed experiance. This harms those with moderate faith, it demeens those who are not expectant of "phenomenal" experiences. Piety is not sactioned by any belief, or faith.

It is not a negative affirmation on any person that speaks out against someones fabrication. it is my observation those who are humored for their "professed experiences" often go farther out until they can cry in contrived indignation about people thinking they are lying.

to share beliefs with those outside a faith is one thing.

But to share experiences with those outside the faith, and expect the same entuisasm is outright insulting.

testimony is for collective audiances.. The verse.. "where three or more are gathered."

If a person barely receives a person sharing beliefs, then what compells the person to press on with "Well I am convinced by the personal experience I had.."



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Free thinking has always been squashed.

The stronger a regions (National) Identity is; the more narrow minded the populas. National Identity is a very good control tool... it worked for Hitler, it worked for Trudeau, and it works especially well for for the States and consumerism (ie brand loyalty.)

New Entities (ie. Neopagans) rarely have a significant power structure, and since radicals rarely achieve power (ie. Dr Ernesto Guevera,) or even seek it; there is much less acceptability by the status quo for groups composed of them.

The very act of trying to be acceptable, destroys what many of us believe, and so we don't bother trying to.
(I will not be a member of an organization that would have me as a member *laughs*)

I think conversation with others should challenge your own thinking...
not the thinking of the people with whom you are conversing. It should engage your associate with enough interest to challenge you with an intelligent response. If you are sharing your beliefs for acceptance... I say you are a fraud.













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~Kglitterous~ posts:

"I think conversation with others should challenge your own thinking...
not the thinking of the people with whom you are conversing. It should engage your associate with enough interest to challenge you with an intelligent response. If you are sharing your beliefs for acceptance... I say you are a fraud."

I respond:

It should challeng individual thought. Though it should never instigate acts of threats and or disputes where logic would imply discussion and mature debate rather then retorts of violence. One would be challenged to come up with a good response rather then random threats for the sake of misunderstood convictions. Those who would see underminers contradicting them, would be set symbol through threats rather then intelligently proving their convictiive point.



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How now brown cow? Indeed, if asked a honest answer is usually forthcoming from me.



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K, intent of prostiltizing is a reverse of acceptance, those who put their beliefs before social protocals are best avoided as pious bigots.



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dabbler
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Meaning I follow your reasoning.



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i share my beliefs when asked about them-



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markus666
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I only share with the members of my "community" of Vamp. To open up to the normal Human will be like to create an illusion in their brain. They are not capable to understand the paranormal. That's simple.



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I often share all three when I am asked. People are curious about how I know the different things that I do and I say the same thing every time. I've been through a lot for a girl my age therefore I have acquired many beliefs of different subjects, I have a very different philosophy of life and I practice things in life a little differently.

I share it the way I always have. I use examples from my past or the “grey area” so to speak where the other person/people have had a somewhat similar experience.



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Are you then stating ~Markus666~ that vampires are of the paranormal?



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How, When, and Why

well to me its like shareing or not shareing is not my choice just like life or death is not my choice how can it be it has no beging and no ending so no matter what I tell a person the elusion is that what I am telling is my choice I can only work on being responsible for what I am and what is within me so to speak we all always share are beliefs not to contradict my self but you only live as long as you believe in liveing and all that you do or say religuos or not is a very open expression of what you truly believe so what of it?



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ColaDvergen
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I share when brought up in conversation or when I feel its nessesairy to tell so people won't misunderstand me or, without knowing it, stepping on my toes so to speak. I do not preach I merely tell. I have very recently been litterally chased by two people from different religions telling me how unhappy I am and how blind and heartless etc. for not believing what they do. discusting. respect is all it comes down to.



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deathnitegrl
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'So would you conclude by any degree that demographic is a factor in who, and perhaps how you choose to share your beliefs?'

Yes and with who too.

Another reason why I don't show my beliefs with everyone is because I don't see why everyone should know my opinion. I can discuss it, but I don't find it important that the whole world knows, one can choose to keep their beliefs as something personal, it's not the whole world's business.

'Are you concerned by the degrees of affiliation, as in Example: "If I tell the neigbors son, will the neigbors relay the info to an associate of a person I would rather not know.." '

I did not get this, are you kidding?



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FallenxPrincess
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Kglitterly(sp) I think conversation with others should challenge your own thinking...
not the thinking of the people with whom you are conversing. It should engage your associate with enough interest to challenge you with an intelligent response. If you are sharing your beliefs for acceptance... I say you are a fraud.


I will respond to this. I agree that this should cause people to think and be enlightened that there may /are other religions outthere that may be different to yours, YET you should respect them even if you cannot wrap your brain around it. Some are open to learn and understand and some just refuse to believe anything but the religion/belief that they have.

This is why many are so controversial.


*Markus* I am with SS on this statement you made, are you saying Vampires are of the Paranormal ? plz explain your statement. I am interested in finding out *HOW* Vampires are paranormal, a new on for me .. LOL



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dabbler
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death Nite girl. for clarity, if you mention your beliefs to a person that is likely to tell someone you would not tell (for your stated reasons). I guess it could be a matter of someone grilling you, rather then an honest inquiry of intrest.



When I am close to a person, a person I foresee being friends with for a long time, I ask their belief> Why, so that in the event they die, I am assured they had "software". I have been to funerals were people that knew a person longer then I had, had no idea the persons prefered rite, I was saddened, as I had yet to explore their beliefs, or assurances.



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Dabbler my dear friend that is so true what you said, I also have seen that happen and that is very sad.



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I share my thoughts, beliefs, etc, when I am either completely comfortable with someone, or if they approach me with questions and an open mind. And then I ease into whatever I'm telling them/they want to know.



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LadyRayneofDarklight
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I share my beliefs with others when they feel curious and brave enough to ask. I don't mind. I am pretty open about mostly anything. If you ask me something, I will give you as truthful of an answer as I can.

Why I share them is because I admire the fact that someone was actually willing to ask. Most people avoid the subject because it is a bit... how you say... "touchy"...

How... Well. I just try to start off slow and see how much they know about my own religion or belief system.

As for everything else revolving around debating and arguing and sharing... I enjoy debates on beliefs and religion. It's always fun for good conversation and with a couple people who aren't so high strung, it's a learning experience and you always walk away having learned another person's point of view and maybe a better understanding of their actions and way of life...

I, personally, understand why this is such an incredibly touchy subject. People can be incredibly pushy and touchy and just far to prone to think someone is out to get them, simply for giving a point of view that is different from their own. We see this happen all the time on the VR forums. If anyone would understand the most, I would think it would be Soulshroude simply because his intelligence most definitely outweighs most others. They become intimidated by his bold and not necessarily aggressive words for fear of being proved wrong or made to seem an idiot. In truth, I think most people are terrified of this. The fear of being wrong drives people to the point of madness. The fear of all of their efforts proving to me futile is something that exists in the minds of almost every human.

Even now, I sometimes become afraid of the whole "what if I'm wrong" aspect of belief. I spent most of my mid teenage years, worrying over that question. My own mother once told me she was trying to save my soul by forcing Christianity on me. I spent my nights in fear of going to hell because I was following my heart... Eventually... after my mother was committed and I realized I could not deny my heart... I came to the conclusion that there was no way I was the only person who felt like I did... And I figured... if there's a god... and he'll send me and anyone else to hell for simply following our hearts... After going through the pain of fear and rejection... then I would just rather be in hell... (that is if you believe there IS in fact a hell to be sent to).

It's been my experience, that not very many people are truly willing to be so bold as to say something like that. Out lout. In a public place. It's basically saying, "God can kiss my ass" in the most crowded city of the Bible Belt in the U.S.. (Which, I've actually done... I heard at least one person whispering that I could go to hell. And I admit I deserved that because it WAS in fact disrespectful.)

So my point, after rambling on about mostly nothing is that... some people just aren't willing to let go of their fear... Some people, are not truly willing to give up the fear to go in search of their own heart... Though many will say and not actually mean, "I do not let fear control my life. I let God control my life." And honestly, to me, that is saying that God IS fear.

(I would like to state that I've used Christianity as the example because I've had my own personal experience with it and as it seems that Christianity is the prime source of religious quarrel, it seemed only too fitting. This in no way implies that Christianity is the only religion that could have been used. )

Thank you for your time and have a nice day.



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I would also like to point out that the above post is opinion based. In now way does it mean that I think what I'm saying is true for every person on the planet. Pick it apart or ignore it. There it is. Do with it what you will.



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Being of a mystic bent; I don't find any religion/practice particularily "wrong."

However, what I do find "wrong" is the vast majority of persons who do not challenge what they believe in any way. We live in societies of easy faiths; and moral fortitude should include being able to stand up to the challenges against your faith.



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If I opt to share anything I practice with others, a make sure that I am ready to offer substance. To often I see people sound off about their faith, practice etc. then pause for the expected gratuitious astonishment, or token support.

If a person appears to be phishing, I will not proceed in speaking with them. It would be predictable that all they intend to do is use any info I share with them to perpitrate what they are not, thus.. misrepresenting my practice.



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I share my beliefs with people who know of my beliefs.

For example...The Johava Witnesses knock on my door..
I thank them for the awake booklet and just tell them I worship the same God, in my own way. Wish them a good day and close the door.

I hate to debate religion. Sometimes it is better to be silent or polite then to agrue over religion.



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I will share my beliefs with people if they ask it of me, however I do not randomly run around screaming im Pagan ask me questions!

I wear a pentacle at all times and sometimes that is what causes people to question me. I answer each question truthfully, however I do expect tolerance on the questioners part. I give people respect and tolerance for their own religions because I do not try to convert anyone to my belief system.

Whats right for me isnt right for everyone. I only ask the same level of respect and tolerance from the questioner that I give to them. Sometimes they cant give me that respect and must tell me im wrong and going to hell.

So be it. There is no need for further discussion at this point other than to say thank you for your interest and walk away. Some people have open minds and understand not everyone is alike, some dont.

My family and close friends all know my beliefs and even if they dont agree with it, they have accepted the fact that they cannot change it.



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death Nite girl. for clarity, if you mention your beliefs to a person that is likely to tell someone you would not tell (for your stated reasons). I guess it could be a matter of someone grilling you, rather then an honest inquiry of intrest.



When I am close to a person, a person I foresee being friends with for a long time, I ask their belief> Why, so that in the event they die, I am assured they had "software". I have been to funerals were people that knew a person longer then I had, had no idea the persons prefered rite, I was saddened, as I had yet to explore their beliefs, or assurances.

Ok got it.

I agree here sadly even your family can, not know what you really believe/want.

I for example, if I happened to die I'd be burried and given the typical Catholic Ceremony in a church, because my family assumes I want that because I was brought up that way.

Fact is I want to be cremated, but here that is a touchy subject, because it is not considered Catholic, so it can't happen because our law states that Cremation is legal unless it is used against the country's religion, I in fact want to be creamted because of my different beliefs.



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That is a very good response. Anybody who you would expect to show up at your funeral in the event of death by sudden illness, should know your core belief, if not te details. Several people at the funeral should be able to share more intimate details of that belief with the others, the more curious at the funeral.



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'When do you share your beliefs, philosophy,or practice with others? Why? How do you share'


To be honest with you Dabbler I don't really know what I believe in anymore....I do believe in myself, that way if I let myself down, I am unable to push the blame on anyone else!

As to mentioning to people what I enjoy practising, if asked, I will talk about it. I also enjoy listening/reading about what other people enjoy doing. In my journal I will mention things that have happened and things I do, so if people choose to read and comment, that's fine!

My personel philosophy is in my journal, I wrote that along time ago!



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I share when it is asked of me, when it is asked of me and how.



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shadowfever
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When it is asked for, I share it freely.
When the opportunity for debate occurs I enjoy the challenge.
When pompous people decide to revel in their pomposity and attempt to shove their beliefs down the throats of others, I refuse to swallow and regurgitate my own.
But basically I'm rather shy.



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Territhian
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When do you share your beliefs,philosopy,or practice with others? Why? How do you share.

I share when I am asked and because I am asked. I give them what they want to know and the more they ask the more I will reveal. Im pretty open



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Hmmm..

My thoughts,

I personally will share my personal knowledge and experiences.Although I do have boundries of how much will be shared. Who, well it really does depend on the topic at hand. why, knowledge is great power. It really does depend on what level the person is on with me. I'm not an opened book and I choice not to be.



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Seldom do I offer my opinions on religion or politics. I have found most people don't want to hear differing views and can't debate in a logical, calm matter. If I do it is because I have the feeling the person is intelligent enough to have a conversation not an arguement.
When it comes to other topics I feel free to voice my beliefs when I feel someone could benefit from hearing them.
For example why the military should not allow recruits under 21. Most kids out of high school have never had real freedom to live and go crazy drinking and acting stupid.



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I cannot stand people who discuss matters like this with me when I am really not interested, so I just give them the same courtesy, as I would expect. I do not give my opinion on anything unless I am asked for it.

If asked though or if I find myself in such a situation I am open and honest. I listen and debate but never argue. Such discussions have ruined so many friendships and are futile.



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I tend to adapt. As much as I like to converse I find that when the people around me decide to "drive" their points home I enjoy foisting them on their on petard.
If I am surrounded by Republicans I can be an ardent Democrat. If in a group of especially pretentious liberals I become a fervant Conservative. The same applies to religion, love, or the color of the sky.
To converse is nice, to debate is a joy, to argue with a fanatic may be unproductive but it is a pleasure to watch them turn red in anger.
Sorry, guess that is rude.



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SireZombie
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Wow LMAO! that was very real and blunt and refreshing.

I have no problem sharing my thoughts on my beliefs with some one if they want to know .. and why.. no big deal to me I am the one who has to answer for myself not them.. so to each their own ;)



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