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For centuries, women and men have reported sexual attacks by unseen entities as they lie in their beds. Are they victims of demonic, psychological or medical disturbances?




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it is probably a mixture out there. some who are crazy and some who have faced the real deal. we will never REALLY know



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I think it could be a combination of alot of things. It could be an attack through an astral plane. A demonic attack succubi/incubi (sp?). Or it could be craziness. Sometimes certain medications cause one to have very strange dreams as well!



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So what’s the remedy for an incubus or succubus attack? Should victims go to a medical doctor for relief from sleep paralysis? Should they seek counseling from a psychotherapist or psychiatrist if the experiences are the result of some childhood trauma?



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It could happen from any of the sourses you mentioned, and few more...So it would depend on what type of experience they had encountered...As to what type of treatment if any would be needed...



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Well we all sex dreams, and males at least have wet dreams in their adolescence. Also sleep paralysis is a proven phenomenon. Perhaps its a mixture of the two.



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i don't know what it could actually be i would say demons i do know that if u want to keep demons out a good thing is White Sage it is used for cleansing a house, bringing wisdom and getting rid of demons you burn the leaf as is and walk around the house as it smolders no flames u will have to relight it a few times



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On occasion, when asked to, I have astral traveled to have sexual encounters with certian wanting females...It can get quite intense...I don't consider myself a demon...It can be from many sourses...



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It could be medical it could be a demon who knows.....



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Medically speaking how can it be determined if it was of supernatural nature. As far sexual acts by these identities it can’t be explain. It may be self inflicted, truly raped with a denial and so blame the unknown, or supernatural nature.



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I do believe that most of them were medical "unbalanced"... but, for a very small percentage, medicine could not give an answer, and some of them are still a mistery..



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Psychological and medical disturbances.



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I believe that it could be any of the afore-mentioned possibilities: I believe all of them are real, and that it's a case-by-case situation.

I've never heard of white sage before... I admit that I've never studied demonology of any sort!



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well, to be honest, i'm not toaly sure...but i do think that there are ways that we can be touched by the "dead".



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depends some are more vulnerable than others to demonic activity



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Could be a simple mix of all of them.



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I thought all of you might find this article interesting. Be sure to read the entire article..it's quite interesting.

http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa092099.htm



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21:42:38 Feb 01 2006
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it's possible to be supernatural because mayb epoepl have these expeierences but never come forward for fear that they themselves are "screwed up" so i believe it maybe paranormal then again something my be wrong with the body...



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its a horney supernatural force. haha, idk. some of the people are crazy, and i believe in ghosts since lots of people in my family (including me) so its very possible.



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I belive that there is a wide virities of things some belive they were attacked and others might say it for attention. So in my conclusion there are many different ppl out there so there will be differnt attacks and reports.



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I think that its a very mental thing, and I don't know where I stand on demonic entities.



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Hey, since I can't reply in the forum i thought I'd send you message. You were posting about nocturnal sexual experiences. Sometime it is called a Hag attack. I did a paper on it for my folklore class at the university. It involves paralysis, the feeling of a presence either sitting or laying over the person's body, some times shortness of breath and sometimes sexual activity. There is actually a lot of folklore about this experience that has been collected in Nova Scotia. There they believe that either someone has sent a spirit to terrorize a person because of some wrong that has been to the conjurer by the intended victim. Another belief is that it is the fetch of a sexually frustrated suitor sent to the object of their obsession. Anyways sorry about the rambling.
Stay Golden, Bondagewitch666








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Should you get psychiatric help if you're "attacked" in the night by some kind of sexual entity? Well...I guess it depends on how disturbing or disruptive you'd find this experience to be. If it's a frequent happening, then you probably have some kind of sleep disorder that's sapping your energy. I'd get professional help. Sleep disorders can sometimes cause seizures if they become severe, and seizures are always dangerous. But if this is a rare occurrence, then it depends on whether or not you're freaked out by it. You MIGHT be reliving some kind of sexual trauma from your childhood. But please don't get hooked up with one of those fraudulent hypnotic regression "therapists" who will try to make you believe that every relative you have molested you when you were a child. If the experiences don't freak you out, then why bother with therapy? Some people enjoy unusual sleep experiences, and that's fine as long as they don't become obsessed with them.



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medical, way more towards the mental side, the brain is capable of some amazing & crazy things!



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the mind is a complext organ, it makes you think your seeing things or feeling things that are truely not there..its hard to decern what is truly happening when it comes to our minds..
i wont say either way because you cant prove it to be true or not..just like God..no one has seen him or such but everyone believes hes there (in one form or another)



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in romania there is a lengend about Zburatorul ( transation mot-a-mot - flying man). it is sais that he's a demon and that over night he likes to seduce, tro hypnotise virgins, pure girls and then rape them. he does this several times till the victim starts to lose weight,strenght..... a wonderful relate of thae lengend is written by Mihai Eminescu (our greatest poet) in his 'Calin - File din poveste' (calin - files from a story). it's really worth to read that



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I say it's lack of sex in real life!



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I'm sure they're all possibilities. Some are hallucinating, some actually experience it. I know of at least two psych conditions that can induce that kind of experience. But I also believe it can happen for real.



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I have to say that this thread really brings up a lot of good Arguements, though I would have to agree that it could be both. But I also feel that some of the women who say it was a demonic presence, are really too scared or embarassed to say that their partner may have been the actual guitly party



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its all demonic nothing mential about it



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i know of people who imagine sex acts and then believe that they were attacked by some ghost or something. i honestly can say that ghosts and spirits (entities) can attack people in many ways. why not sexual too? i believe it is possible but i also know there are many mental people out there...



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So is a ghost performing a sex act with you considered a good thing or a bad thing?



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I think mainly everyone is agreeing that it is a mixture of things...



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I believe it's a mix also, and I think u get what u want out of the experince from it..



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I would have to say they was sexually attack by demons that are sexual not matter what the sex is of the demon



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i believe in the spiritual plane but i think it could easily also be medical problems.



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I agree that it really depends on the case as to what the cause could be



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A little bit of both. It's a well known fact that spirit creatures find mankind interesting.... If you're biblical ( I'm not ) it has happened before when angels supposedly came down to sleep with women, hence the birth of the nephlem. But as I said... if you're biblical. Other than that yeah, some people are just freakin' nuts!!!



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this is to extaz1. depends if it is a hot ghost or not. lol



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i must agree with the masses on this it may be any number of things or more than one at a time or it may just be some one that heard of it happening to someone else and is just a conformist so they claim it happened to them to



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could be different for each person..
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I've never heard of anything of a sexual nature, though some girls I know, well two, have reported a few things. My best friend, Kathi, reported being unable to move when she was laying in the bed with the covers at the waist and suddenly the covers moved up to her shoulders before she could move again. Then another girl, Shyla, reported laying on the couch and in the middle of watching some tv felt hands on her throat choking her.



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once i was amazed wehn a demologist friend of mine talked to me about the succubus, whom are usually female demons that came to men by night...that is a sort of demon distrubance but he told me that i was mostl used as an axcused by priests to explain their masturbation..thus many of these might be human invention...



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well... i'm going to say that there's no real way to be sure. but i'll pose this to you... isn't this a bit similar to the many anal probing by alien being "dreams" that are very common among americans?



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depends...it can be a mental psychosis...is can be a mental disorder..it could be a dream scape...it could be a premonition...and it could be an actual event...it is all based on the persons backgrounds...find the past you find the answers to this and the future!



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Old fashioned succubi and incubi



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its definatly a mixture of all of them



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No one can ever say for sure what your situation is.

If in fact you do see this as incubi/succubi related try binding the demons cutting all their "silver cords"

Casting a simple portection spell might do the trick. And dont forget to bless and close all the openings in your house.



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i have never seen an attack like this before but i have heard of them there supossed to be very physical and emotional
but what about just being posesed do you think that can happen?



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I believe that it is a mixture of both. And not only could it be the two choices u have given, but people lie to get attention, thus many of them could be fibbing to us to to either get attention, or to try and get us to believe in this subject for purposes unknown.



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I ment to add this along with my other response, but some of them could be telling such things to us for our sympathy, to make the other person believe that they were harmed.



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mrd's article was informative. Thanks for that link mrd!. I think again this condition has to be taken on a individual basis. A combination of the both.



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the demons get the bad wrap! lol
who's to say that asmodeus or enlil or marchosias, or dagon would want these people, but I wont dive into that one. They may ...if for example the person meddled ...or did something to attract , then repented, or was trying to bounce around religions...thinking they could play all sides...etc.
In the astral it could even be a very powerful live living human...the soul is quite powerful.
Mental it could be as well. A mind can cause many things to seem very 3d. Self inflicted, a past trauma that continues to manifest in the outward-physical realm.
It can be a medication that doesn't work well with the person - many mental patients are misdiagnosed and given meds that cause reactions unexpected and unhealthy,

It could be lost souls ...ghosts ....those who only maintain their small existance by absorbing energy they obtain through acts like these.

It could be my lovely demons...but ....really...why does it always have to be blamed on them?
I believe they may have better things to do every once in awhile.



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18:29:14 Feb 15 2006
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why a demon should be interest by sex, he think at a different level....only us humans think 80% at sex...
about those attack, i heard that in monasterys the nuns say they was violate by the devil, and the true was that: the violator was their sexual instinct.



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they faked it lol



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what the hell?? enver heard of this before.... i think it must be a bit of both...some mental some demonic....



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as far as being demonic or medical no ne truely knows..........science has never figured it out and niether has religion so we may never truely know wht the situation is



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There are certain mental measurements they use in paranormal psychology to detect these events.



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was certain that both succubus and incubus were sexual demons who fed upon the erotic emotions and sexual energies of others...succubus being the lessr of the two and incubus being the more violent(would rape their victims and feed of of their emotions as well as the energy of the act)and that both are only relaly used when it came to summoning,heh....heard you can get a favor from a succubus to ahve relations for about an eighth of your soul, used to be half or a quarter



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I agree with almost everyone else. I do not think that it is one of two things, but a mixture of both demonical and medical disturbances. The phenonemen is very complex, and perhaps it is very individual.



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Those who claim they were mentally attacked by demonic or natural causes need to just think of what it is that they believe



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