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What do you think about knowledge? In your opinion do you think more is better for an educated conversation or less knowledge because "ignorance is bliss"?

I think knowledge is better because you will know about what you are talking about. They say knowledge is power. I agree with that because of the fact that the more you know the more you can effectively communicate and prove or disprove something. You can also know more about one thing and less of another but that is what learning is all about. Someone else will know and you can ask them and learn.

Knowledge is better if you are talking about something and you don't know what's the topic about you won't be taken seriously.

Knowledge is certainly best. Life should be a continuous learning process. I believe keeping the brain active and alert makes for a healthier longer life.

Knowledge is allery well but unless it is tempered witha little wisdonm it is about as much use as a chocolate fire guard or an ashtray on a motorcycle.

Knowledge is good.With knowledge,one can evolve and survive..even thrive.

Ignorance is not bliss!
The world's woes are due to ignorance.
I welcome knowledge. I love to learn, and if I happen to have some info to share, it's all good.

"Never seem wiser, nor more learned than the people you are with."

I believe in intellectual/knowledgeable conversation.But life can become quite dull if that's all you intend to do.

I believe a random,stupid, and sometimes quirky conversations are just as fun as an intelligent conversation, if not more so.

Also, if you're constantly only having knowledgeable conversations, then you might come off as a pompous *sshole/b*tch.

bloodmother, I couldn't have said it better!

Some people do take themselves and their knowledge far too seriously. They can't seem to loosen up and have a bit of silly fun, which is kinda' sad, in my opinion.

Im with you Isis..She said it like it is.I am one who loves to laugh,even if it is at myself.And lets face it,we all dont know everything about everything ,even though one might know alot.Life is learnng.

I'm with all ya'll. Those who are ignorant and think that ignorance is bliss think so because they are ignorant.They all are set in their ways and would rather stay the way they are rather than change. Some end up as ignorant pricks while others end up being stupidly ignorant.

Knowledge comes with experience in life. The more that we acquired knowledge, the more it become wisdom.

Knowledge are open doors in your path, the more you acquire the better tools you obtain in the daily experience of life, management-wise.

Ignorance isn't bliss in my books, but that also depends on what it implies.

Knowledge is always power, but with it comes another form of ignorance and abuse, that is thinking you know more than everyone else. Everyone is here to learn something and gain knowledge in their own way. No matter how big or small the subject it all matters.

Knowledge, without practice is not practical. Knowledge is exercise for the brain. engaging in critical thinking, and problem solving is the "obstical course" that develops the mind. When all the synapsis are preoccupied with trivial material, knowledge can suffer.

To be able to utilize resources to full potential is wisdom. As stated, Knowledge without wisdom is stagnent. application of knowledge is what advances humankind. Awesome thread.

With knowledge comes the potential for empowerment. Knowledge is a tool, its application will in most instances determine the outcome of a persons life.

Lack of application will result in exactly the same outcome as the person who is ignorant of such knowledge.

Knowledge is a mental tool when applied to various situations could result in an achievement in scholarship. The more experience one gains through knowledge, the greater awareness they have for everything in general.

As well, through knowledge comes understanding. Thus, it may be a principle term to a degree for the attainment of virtues, through understanding virtues from a knowledgable point of view, one may become better within themselves and thus the unique "empowerment" of the individual is released. Making the individual a better, positive individual once the knowledge has been used properly.

I would have to agree with soulshroude on this one. I have always been one that believes that with knowledge you gain wisdom and power but neither of the three can function properly with out the other being there. I also believe that the three must have a universal connection and that connection would be that of love. Just my 2 cents worth :)

Please explain why love would coincide with the other two formats... I know the philosophical point of view behind it as being involved with spiritual alchemy of the higher self. I would like to know your point of view on this as pertaining to the format of knowledge...

yep.. and, I go with Spirtwalker, the erudite young Lady, who so often speaks so well.

knowledge, without bias, is a valuable tool.

too many often place personal spectulation in the same catigory with knowledge, this serves only to impose ideals on others, and to elevate the personal esteem of the individual.

Yes...and I might add that some are very knowlegeable, but so wrapped up in how smart they are that they turn off others. Which is sad, as they can actually impart some wisdom at times.

Knowledge is always a good thing to have because you can help others with what you know. You can't half ass it though. You have to be interested in what you want to know to fully learn about it. Otherwise, you're talking about something you really have no business opening your mouth about.

Knowledge is power, for thoes with knowledge can do great things, but thoes with knoledge and that have ignorance of what to do with the knowledge fulfill the old saying "power corrupts and absolut power corrupts absolutly".

Which is why when I see some kid downloading the anarchist cookbook I get this sence of dread coming over me.

Knowledge is a great thing to have, but I would not say it is wasted if not applied properly. I personally seek knowledge for the enjoyment of learning but feel no need to to apply said knowledge to life. I am quite content to earn a living with my hands, so what is the need of me knowing about history or science but for my own enjoyment?

With knowledge, you have more choices. Anyone who says that their choices were limited, is saying they don't have the same knowledge as you. The more knowledge you have, the more responsable you will feel over your actions.

This is empowering.

Also:

Knowledge is power because knowledge reduces fear. Power is given to people who alleviate your fears... Lawyers, Judges, Doctors, the Military... &c. You give power to someone who has more knowledge/experience than you about something you fear.

Ignorance is bliss is a statement of Irony. The statement refers to people who have fears that you have already conquered. You don't recognise their fears, and you think they are blissful. They don't recognise the choices that you have available, and see the fear in your risk taking.

Knowledge that reduces fear is wisdom; knowledge that increases fear is power.

Well stated K, How often people with general knowledge are drawn to irrational conclusions. If it is only the individual that suffers the consequence of actions related to said irrational conclusion.. fine.. but often such reactions/actions effect others. While those that exercise knowledge are apt to be rational when confronted with situations that are relavent to life.

I stick by "Curious minds want to know"

And i do, I love to learn new things, And if the conversation if of something i am not knowledgeable about, then i stick around. And i listen and learn. In silence.

Knowledge is power.

And Ignorance is well.. just that.

fine summary, and my.. how the ignorant are expoited.

All one has to do is flatter their shallow ideals, and the morons fall in for fleecing.

Pixiewitch it is one thing to listen and learn when you aren't familiar with the subject matter. But do you ever verify on your own what you here others discussing? If not you can't be sure the knowledge you just acquired is real. Many talk as if they know something when in fact they are just making up what sounds like an educated response.

I agree with Danzig, one must always validate from a reliable source anything they may hear or read.

I have read a few things on here from the "knowledgeable" and thought to myself, "what a fu**ing pile of crap". Anyone can use large words out of context in a conversation in an attempt to fake knowledge. You need look no further than the main forum on here to have proof of that.

Lolita I must agree to that.
On the sceond part of this topic, I would say ignorance is sometimes bliss depending on the situation. Granted conversation would not be one of those situations.
As an example my wife is ignorant to how much money I spend buying lottery tickets. She is happy not to have knowledge of this subject. It would worry her.

hahaha

You would probably find she does know, she is just letting you keep buying them until she has need a valid reason as to why she purchased those $500 shoes. WOMEN KNOW ALL... oO Well that's my story and I am sticking to it :D

Danzig, It really doesn't matter, yes i verify info for future use.. im not ignorant lol.

But either way, peoples personal opinions on things as well as their wrongful information can be quite amusing. As well as their Knowledge on certain things.

Another thing i like to do as well is listen in silence to a convo of ppl, when i am knowledgeable about the subject, just to see how badly they can mess it up. But that is just for my entertainment. :)

I never intended you were ignorant or anything else. I just asked if you verify information you hear. Many hear something and take it as knowledge learned.
As far as listening to conversation between those that know not what they speak of, you have more patience then I or a twisted sense of humor. I have never found humor in BS, but it takes all kinds in this world.

Then there are people who fabricate concepts, and declare themselves knowledgable about such things.
It becomes evident when others inquire in a manner that is off their script.

One only needs to ask what source is available for follow up research, and the whole charade is exposed.

Danzig, I guess it depends on weather or not i want to be nice that day or not, Yes i guess i do have a twisted sense of humor. And it would also depend on weather or not i give a shit about the ppl to waste my time including my 2 cents. Or if i was in the mood for an argumentative convo.

Watching a group battle it out when they are both wrong is just amusing. Hmm Maybe i should watch more TV? Neh, I rather live entertainment lol.

I know u were not calling me ignorant, was just saying, since we were on the subject and all :)

ignorance isnt bliss nor excusable. If you dont know what your talking about its better to shut up... Unless you are trying to learn

I agree JudasBrood. Its better to shut up and say nothing at all than get yourself in a hole that you cant get out of.

If you are trying to learn then thats one thing but if you just want to argue without knowing anything or very little about it then you might as well shut up.

You know,we can all sit here and say these things,but there is something I have noticed when it comes to horses..and I find it applies to other areas too.
When peeps start learning about horses,they are kindof shy and quiet,listening to everything.This goes on for a while.They try hard and do their research.Then they hit a stage I call handy enough to hurt themselves.That is,they know a little,pretty much just enough to hurt all involved,and open their mouths alot.Then,after about 20 years or so ,they finally get to where they dont get hurt all that much,but walk around into every barn making damn sure everyone knows theyre doing their stuff wrong and that they are there to show em how its done..
After about..oh 40 years or so,they still get hurt,but avoid more accidents than not. They walk into a barn and all horse eyes are on them because they are finally starting to get it.And the voice has grown quiet and knowing.
My point is,everyone goes through stages whith their knowledge.Fortuanately,most go thru the stages as they should.But sometimes some get stuck .i think we call em knowitalls.

I once met a scholar, he knew all about science and loads of interesting facts.

He claimed to be wise as he knew about 5000 facts and could apply them in five different ways.

Every one agreed he was very knowledgable but nobody seemed to listen to him.

I once met a Wizard who knew far less, he only knew about a 1000 facts and said because he knew so little he was a fool.

but others heard him apply them in a 1000 different ways so...

Everybody listened to him...

for in truth, he was wise.

I think everyone has knowledge in their own way

There is Practical Knowledge, General Knowledge, Personal Knowledge. we also posses the ability to imagine, and reason, exercise logic, and speculate in relation to the knowledge you obtain.

The abuses are mostly social pretenses, and vary by individual. The more someone professes to know about, the more people will seek to engage that person in specifics about their professed areas of knowledge.

Im not totally convinced Dab that it would all be social pretense.I say thins because when we learn about something,and research it very hard,we can come to conclusions that might not be completely correct.And it is only when talking about it,hearing anothers imput,that we might change or adjust our thinking on any given subject.Since no one knows everything about something,while one might talk in depth,since they only know so much,well,untill they learn more,they really cannot take it any farther.

I follow you there Mermaid.

Teachers learn from their students, as much as students learn from their teachers. There is a difference between instructors, and teachers. Some knowledge (history) is in part spectulation, though it takes many branches of Knowledge (ologies) to collect enough to piece together conclusions, or reason with any degree of accuracy about a given subject matter, when absolutes are set, and pride (agendas) enter into the equations there is greater potential for error.

my thought on the matter is that the more you know the less you come of as as a fool

Soulshroude, My view on this is that one must have a love or a passion for wanting to know more about something (animal or anything like that). That love or passion gets them searching for more information and understanding of the subject. with the understanding of the subject comes the knowledge and wisdom of it. with the three of them come power. this might not be exactly what you were looking for me to say but this is the way I see it. my question to you Soulshroude, is why does it seem that wisdom is forgotten when speaking of knowledge or power?

Klittergorus-Power is not just for fear or anything else. There are several people that have power but do not use it as a fear factor. It would follow according to the person and how they want to use the power.