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What does the Hollywood idea of the vampire represent to you?

For me, it was the first three episodes of Angel that got me.. the sense of being apart from society.

I think Hollywood always shows Vampires as sexual. I mean you always see the main Vampire with beautiful females in sexy costumes. Yet they always portray the Vampire as being lonely.

I think most hollywood ideas for vampires represent societies most taboo, yet greatly sought, desires.

It represents the judgment that a society has for those that are different. In Hollywood they are portrayed as those that need to be exterminated, hunted down and killed for their differences. Did this not happen more then once in our own society, more commonly referred to as genocide. Think of Hitler, the Congo, Rwanda, and many other incidences. Is that how we want things portrayed? It does happen, so if Hollywood is about imagination and fairy tales, don't show it in the movies about vampires.

For the most part...I do not claim to have seen every vampire movie ever made...but of the films I have seen it has almost always come down to that age old idea...the good guy wins.

Vampires are usually portrayed as the villains and Hollywood has to disregard their own projection of what they are. The immortal Hollywood vampire...as a rule...is stronger...faster...more vicious...ruthless and cunning. Yet...somehow...in the end...a mere mortal kills them. Take Brams "Dracula" for instance...why at the end didn't Drac just become smoke and drift away? Why didn't he use his speed and merely disappear? Why did he not run and just kill his enemies? Turn into bats or rats? See? Good guy wins bad guy dies...it is usually only cops and robbers.

This is one of the reasons I am more prone to Anne Rice...her vision of the vampire didn't succumb to this idea. As a rule the vampire won...or at least if killed it was by another vampire...in her books and movies I thought the vampire was portrayed more faithfully to the fictional idea of them.

I think that is how all bad guys are portrayed in Hollywood, yet the good guys always win.

The Hollywood vampire has always been portrayed as wearing black, could only walk after dark and pale as. Since Queen of the Dammed, the vampire has taken on a change and a lot of viewers dont like this they rather the old Vampire.

An escape from reality.

The way I want to be.

An easy distraction for what ails them in their lives, whether it be anxiety, fear or doubt. An immortal being that can accomplish just about anything? Bring it on... As long as I don't have to take out the garbage. HA!

Seriously though, I am reminded of Katherine Ramsland. Her psychology of the vampire sums it up very well. I will not point out any references regarding her ideas. Just read one of her books.

hollywood ideas are a escape from the mudane bs of life in my mind there movies in vampyers is to show them as somthing of myth they show only the things we wish we had thus making the story more interesting

the hollywood vampire to me represents well entertainment which is why they are there...

Well, it is not hard to see Hollywood has almost ran its course with the Vampire.
The Vampire represents to me the fact that humans fear the unknown , anything different and alarming to them. They , after all MUST destroy anything unlike themselves.
They sit in their warm and safe houses inviting the thrill of the chase. Yet they scoff at the idea of taking human life and at the violence the Vampire uses to obtain his needs. Yet in the end at most of the time the Vampire gets killed , rather violently I might add. Human insecurity comming to life through the wonders of Hollywood.

Take down those who are different.

Money$$$$. Well, Hollywood was created to generate money. Today, they figure out, that by triggering the mind of young people, with the concept of a "nice and Romantic" vampire type, it will brings millions and millions of dollars. Have you see a romantic Movie lately? nope!!!

The hollywood vampire appeals to several different parts of my mind/curious nature.
Part of me is interested in the immortality the present. I love to learn and to have lifetimes upon lifetimes to do so would definitely be to my liking however, there is the thing of watching your loved ones die again and again and again. So I don't think immortality would be for me. *laughs*
Then there is the sexual part of it. Why they have to portray vampires this way, I have no idea.
Not everyone in this world is as sexy as all that, they can't have average looking vampires?
Or do vampires only choose the sexiest people to turn?

.. well am likin this thread.
I wasn't thinkin of the money or the glitz, but yes, the raw sexuality, style and, savagely that's portrayed.

.. and yes, the tortured soul, of course.

it represents fantasy,myth and legend and mystery to me,it is what dreams are made of.

I wonder if you mean all fictional vampires; all film vampires; or just hollywood vampires? If you're sole intent is to exclude the bickering of what constitutes a "real" vampire, you are a smart-smart man, and my hat sweeps the floor.

I would like to address them all.
First I will address hollywood.
Hollywood is incapable of making a good Vampire movie that is not campy. In order to milk the general populous of as much money as they can, they must water down anything too bizaar, mind expanding, or interesting on any level that doesn't involve G.vs.E. Man vs. Man, man vs. Self are rarely explored in hollywood... No-one wins in man vs. self (so peopel don't walk out of the theatre happy to have spent thier money), and man vs. self tends to make the audience think too much... get them thinking about your movie and all of a sudden they start behaving like critics, and judging your movie on levels that the common person doesn't.

Hollywood does make some fantastically campy vampire movies, and TV shows... they will be timeless, as they are not intended to be serious, and often poke fun at themselves.

Second, the Vampire film.
These movies include the internal conflict, they make the viewer think. The vampire becomes an allegory for the horrors of uncontrollable passions... including wrath, greed, gluttony, pride, lust, envy, and even sloth. The film makers can explore these themes, because they are interested in art... and not just money.

Lastly, Vampire fiction: the source of most decent vampire films.
With fiction, you can fully explore alienness, and fear, on levels that can not be achieved on teh silver screen. You can tweek and twist the brain into new ways of viewing the world, without the viewer leaving the theatre and realizing it was not real. The images are still in the head.

I like my vampires to twist my perception of reality so far away from normal, that I can empathise with a serial killer, hundreds of years old, (or some other variation of inhumanity) with little to nothing in common with me; and thereby find tolerance for the "two-watts" who initiate the usual banal intercourse.

The details of whether a vampire sucks only virgin blood, is undead, or sparkles, is inconsequential; if, it truely addresses uncontrolled human desires at the target audience.

kglitterous, eloquesntly phrased.. may I say.. you're as close as anyone thus gar, to where I wanted this to go..
..kudos, to you.

Hollywood makes you want to love the Vampires, because thye ae always the misunderstood that everyone wants to kill. Plus they always make them handsome and romatic alluring, intriguing, I mean why would you not wantto love them.

I fell in-love with Angel he was the best tv Vampire I think, of course there was also Dark Shadows and Barnabas ooh he was very intriguing. lOL

but hollywood makes us respect them I think, plus it is a money maker for them as well so I guess a no lose situation.

.. though all fads pass, Hollywoods attchment to the vampire has stayed, almost since it was Hollywood Hills.

.. of course the money is a large part of it, but that can't just be it..

.. masqueradedoll, "good taste."

Just by using that word Hollywood, and what Hollywood means to a lot of people...glitter, sparkles, fame, entertainment, money ....ect

So for me when I think of the Hollywood idea of a Vampire I think of the above...

The Hollywood "idea" of the vampire represents, to me, the corruption and dishonesty which reigns supreme in the entertainment industry. Harsh sentiment, I know. But I can explain.

While it's hard to fault the first few Dracula movies (Nosferatu and Bela Lugosi's first Dracula in 1931) since both were based on Bram Stoker's novel, they were at least faithful to the author's work and had tons of visual style -- though Stoker's Count Dracula had little in common with Vlad Tepes, except for the name. An explanation of vampirism, itself, seemed to be less important than showing a cursed & doomed individual.

Regardless, Hollywood didn't seem to take much notice of the vampire horror genre until the 1940s and 1950s, at which point vampire movies began to employ a variety of embellishments (vampire killed by sunlight in 1945, fangs first appeared in 1957, etc.) I think this was mostly due to the popularity of science fiction films, which demanded little adherence to literary sources.

This continues still with movies like The Lost Boys (the cure for vampirism lies in the destruction of the Master Vampire, vampires have to be invited into your house, etc.) and Twilight (this has been discussed at great length in other forums). Each new version of the Hollywood vampire has some little embellishment to make them more appealing & marketable. Not that I blame capitalism for this; it's human nature to desire a story that is more interesting than the last. So vampires have become sexy, powerful, nocturnal, Gothic, etc because that's the recipe that has worked well for the entertainment industry.

And vampires aren't immune; the same thing happened to zombies, werewolves, Frankenstein's monster, aliens/faeries, witches, haunted houses, ghosts, etc. The current Hollywood "idea" of all of these is far removed from the original folklore versions on which they are based.

well stated Thoth, Someone always looks at older movies, and themes and thinks.." Hmmm, how can we up the ante, and bring back the spook (or humanize the monster). They also look for excuses to employ the latest FX concept. Yesterdays vampire is just not as menicing to todays audience. So they have to Make the Monster tougher, yet still have a small window of option for the Hero of the movie.

I know this may sound a little weird because it is talked SO much about, but I do believe that the way Stephenie Meyer portrayed Edward in the Twilight series is a truthful meaning. Angel is also a great example of a "real" vampire. (Quotation is for the hollywood part) The reason in this is because of how most people portray vampires as sexual, blood thirsty, demons. Angel and Edward are portrayed as lonely beings that suffer for years due to what they call a curse. They aren't what we know as evil. They are more "human" than most. I am more attracted to the "real vampires" than the "sexual vampires".

Thank you Angelus, and Dabbler your so right they are always trying to improve the whole Vampire werewolf theme in hollywood. As to see who can bring in the most money, I mean Bela Lugusi (sp) was a simple to the point Vampire in the Black and white movies and even silent films lOl yet, today there is history brought into it and love and hatred, more blood and revenge or some where peace and co-existance is in the works.

As in Underworld, yet, I do not see where they will stop at that. I mena there are so many takes on the whol Vampire Movies and now that they are coming out with the Werewolf movie I am sure it is gonna have a new twist as well lOL

Bottom line in Hollywood is always the money that it may generate in returns. but, I still go watch them LOL

Anything coming out of Hollywood is to make big bucks. The only way it can is if ppl are interested and the movie is appealing and would attract ppl to go see. I see no different to any vampire movie, it has to draw a crowd, ppl would want to pay to go see it so the movie has to be appealing to the crowd/ Nowadays it is the bigger the effects and the more things get blown up or destroyed the better it is.

A False idea in some ways of interpetation of vampiric fables, making them romantic or with feeling and emotion

To me represents pure entertainment. It's not supposed to be real.

Hollywood vampires represent the "hawtness" quality.
Without that image, I don't know if I would find a vampire sexy.

since the movies do not effect my life or cause me reasons to piss and moan,

i like them there something to watch or to read

.. and then, there are the Indies, like 'Martin'.

Heck.. even 'The Hunger' had merit.

There are some good films from 'them', but in my humble opinion.. you have to look for them..

Yep.. Hollywood exists to make the bucks.. no more.. TheBan called that right, I think.

Martin is a good example of what I meant by film; I also like The Addiction. Anything you would say was a good film, instead of a good movie... is what I would concider a relevant vampire addition.

My friend that IS Dracula on twitter posted this review of the Twilight Book:

http://postdracula.wordpress.com/2009/12/21/twilight-review/

Read it - short and to the point.

Hollywood made an immortal and superior creature weak against sunlight, garlic, and gave them the heart as their weak point. How can the heart be a weak point? Vampires arfe between the border of life and death. They are, techinally, dead and yet they still move and feed on humans. How can mere sunlight defeat such a mighty creature? In the end, the darkness always defeats the light. That means that vampires can defeat anything even the light. How can mere garlics keep vampires away? Vampires sleep in coffins, surrounded by the dead. I'm pretty sure that by now, they are used to smelling rotting human corpses. Knowing that, I am pretty sure that garlic wouldn't do much against a vampire.

A new take on religion, especially most religion's fundamental promise on "life after death." Hollywood has fun turning this notion on its immortal ear, scaring, titillating, amusing us, but for me always making me think more deeply on LIFE.

it represents a chance to be our true selves. to disregard convention, and revel in our sexuality, our beliefs, and our more taboo selves.
i think that is very much what the hollyweird vampire is supposed to represent anyway.
~W~

i like hot sexy female hollywood vampires.

Not knowing what vampires really are, Hollywood probably just made up their vampires. To me, that is an insult to the vampire race. Their representation shows how easily frightened humans are from the unknown.

it represents uneducated hollywood movie makers who cant distinguish whats fact from fiction making vampire movies to put a few more mill in their pockets to me.

true movie makers in Hollywood only care about the money and THE ratings that the movie brings in

when you consider how hollyweird mangles history on a regular basis, its not surprising that they mangle pretty much any subject that they decide to sink their fangs into.


whats the old joke? whats the difference between a hollywood producer and a catfish?

one is a bottom feeding scavenger, and the other is a fish!

(or was that lawyers? LOL)
~W~

LordWolf Mostly likely lawyers
they r kinda like scavengers (no offense to anyone)

entertainment and if they are good I wait for the sequels to come out as well. :) money and entertainment..

Really? Anyway, its just a way to make money.

i have a number of friends that are lawyers. i always invite them to join the rave because they should get on so well with the other blood suckers LOL.

that aside, each movie takes the lore and twists it a bit more. each time it must be a bit more extreme in order to impress the masses, and each time they go further from reality.

its ok tho...i love raiders of the lost ark, but it took a bit for me to get over the idea of german soldiers in egypt in the 30s (it was a british protectorate at the time), sub machine guns that wouldnt be designed for a few years yet, and ofcoarse the never built airplane that they showed the germans having.

still was a fun show. thats how i view the vast majority of vamp movies i see.
~W~

Hollywood.. Hollywood vampires .. For me, they are nothing but other ideals and perfection in the domain of vampires, presenting them in too much of a human way and making it possible for the every-day TV-watching mortal to create scenarios in his/her head and imagining how great it is to be a vampire.
Of course it would be great .. too bad it`s Hollywood! :)

pure entertainment the praticing vampire never give there secrets away

amen to that

Simply, "Capitalism" at work. Doing research just creates an audience that will continue to fuel the fire, with "money', of course.

true Hollywood does care whether or not their facts are true
as long as they get money, they don't care

Hollywood has changed their perception of the vampire role in movies. It is no longer the monster but a feeling, sexual being like humans. Hollywood makes the society love and respect the role of a vampire. we cheer for them and feel remorse when they perish at the end.

I love the more classic movies of vampires. The 60's and 70's traditional type. I shun the more traditonal types for they have lost their luster in the fable of Vampires.

Making vampires into sexual beings like humans? Now that is a new low even for Hollywood

Sometimes good fantasy/horror entertainment and other times just bad movies. It is all about money and fads.

What is this .." Hollywood insults vampires..without knowing facts"?

As if those who profess that vampires are something other then lore, and fiction have any substancial facts.

Hollywood changes the lore of the vampire icon, from a monster to a romantic icon with feelings. Hollywood has given us this, much like any other fable that hollywood has changed.

like history, for example??
Aye, you're right of course.

But geez, give me the mystique of films like The Hunger', or 'Martin.', in lieu of so much of this current crop of romantic dross.

hollywood shows us having fangs, not able to walk out in sun, no tan and making us seem as if we are evil creatures out to harm others.

Cadre that is adaptation of a genre..

" Hollywood shows us having fangs .. etc.."

This is also lore, have you anyother substancial accounts of what you conclude to be a vampire.. outside of traditional lore?
I have yet to see a thread titled, " Historically accurate accounts of Vampires." To constantly accuse Hollywood, and Fiction writters of" Having it all wrong." only carries so far. It implies that there exist a source that contains a correct factual account of The Vampire. As is lore, and as Upir demonstrates are predominate sources for the generally excepted vampire arc-type.. grant it reinvented by the imagination of screen writers, and authors.

I await a " Historical ( factual)" documentary to " set the record straight".

When one seeks to correct, it is ideal to support their correction with documentation.. Or perhaps even a link summarizing their case for admonishing, and correcting what they deem to be " false representation".

I dislike how Hollywood portrays them.

My first impression was actually from a book series called "The Saga of Darren Shan"

You should check it out :]

The vampyres in the books don't have fangs, instead they use their nails to cut their necks and drink their blood.

biggest difference.

Second difference is there are two difference kinds, Vampyres and Vampaneze.

Vampyres only drink enough to survive, they don't bleed their victims dry.

Vampaneze do, and henceforth they have purple skin because of the excessive amounts of blood they take in.

Well that is a new one on me but interesting (Vampyre/Vampaneze). Most of what Hollywood shows is pure fiction. Most of what can be found out by research is filled with folklore and various interpretations that may or may not be correct. I think no one will ever know really if there ever were such things called vampires. It is a relatively modern word for the creature. Who knows what it was called in antiquity we have no records still existing. Now they have found a site of an even older civilization in Africa. Older than the Pyramids. I am curious to see if their legends are uncovered and anything exists within them on this topic.

There are many ideas in Hollywood for the vampire. Movies, films or whatever you want to call them are merely for entertainment value and making money. They try to be creative so people will pay to see them and perhaps buy the DVDs later. Any new way to show them that might be inventive will be tried out to get audience attention. With movies there is no debate on whether a vampire has fangs or doesn't. It is up to the screenwriter who proposes the idea he created or adapted from someone else's writings. There are many ideas of what a vampire is like in Hollywood so unless you pick one in particular it is hard to know how to answer that. I take it all as fantasy. Most often the vampire is shown as a lonely predator.

Dabbler would you like to hear the word fable instead of lore. Depictions of stories handed down way before our time . The iconic discription of the vampire has been set in stone. Yet hollywood in its illusional mind has now taken that icon and changed the perspective into a romantic living creature with feelings.

A directors point of view on how they want the story to go and end. reduntant question that keep popping up why for? Why this? Whats the meaning?

Ponderings to entice others I guess, Hollywood changes all aspects of things vampires, History , amd the illusion of science. Who wants to go to a boring movie, spice it up.

I am on the same page Cadre,

My post refered to those who imply that there is a historical ( non fiction/ lore) account of vampires.

The Hollywood ideal of the vampire is in constant change. The vampire started out as something evil, something to fear, a lurking monster in the dark that represented all the nastiness of the world.

Now its taking on the loner, romantic, sexual vampire that tries to over come their evil natures to be honest and good again.

I personally preferred the predator, and I am merely part of its food chain. I prefer Vampires to be something to fear, non human and frightening.

I don't like the 'humanising' of vampires.

Hollywood portrays vampires main weakness as the sun. How can mere sunlight kill a superior creature that has live for century if not milleniums? Is Hollywood lying just to get more profits? Most likely yes

Hollywood = superficial gloss

Hollywood literly took the Drac out of Dracula thus took the vamp out of vampire. Back in the earlier years before updating it . It was a classic back then and it was awesome. They've reformatted the idea so much it's just become more and more garbage I'm sorry if you don't aggree with me on this but serioulsy go look at Dracula 1931 and tell me it's not good.

i believe that Hollywood and a good part of popular trivia have turned vampires into an ideal, but not a true interpretation of what they are. i mean, for gods sake, we have count chocula....

I like Count Chocula. Not to mention Count Duckula. God I think I just revealed how Old I really am...

To stay on the subject. I just think Hollywood really over did the whole vampire thing.

Wow, I remember those things and love eating that cearel as well. I feel very strongly that hollywood is running out of ideas for the vampire of today. So, it meand nothing to me at all just some good and poorly done movies is all.

Count Duckula.. **sigh's**

Ah... superb. [sorry, reminiscing.]

Hollywood is all about making a buck. Getting ppl to go see the movies. The Hollywood vampire was always the same up until Buffy and Angel came out. Since then the vampire changes that quick it is hard to keep up. The society kicks up a stink because they keep changing what we feel a vampire should be...what we need to remember is it is all fake, why get into a tusle over it. PPL tend to take Hollywood as gospel. Sad sad world.

To me that is just what Hollywood is all about

It makes a good show but that's about it... Keep it in the

movies, do not use it as your basis for any opinions, on

those that fall under this practice or belief. If you want to

learn more and talk to those who live it, and do your

research.

I personally think that hollywood's take on the vampire shows not only a desire to romanticize vampirism but in some cases a lack of imagination.

True, their interputation of vampire novels is the bases of money making, so if the genre calls for horror than you get 30 days of night, if the audience wants romance you get interview with a vampire, teen audieance than twilight. depending on the year the films dictation goes with that.

true hollywood has shift from a creature of the dark to a creature characterized by romance

.. as summarised by Cadrewolf very well, methinks!

Spot-on!

$$$$$$$$that's all..folk. Yes, Money is the key to Hollywood. And yes, why not make some money, just reverse the old creatures behavior and make them more romantic and more attractive to teenager, they love to spend $$$$$$.

Ideals of human need, spend money make films to spend money, the tales of monsters and life is exaggerated by hollywoods fables of the truth.

.. Hollywood, the builders of tomorrows fairtales??

In a word . . . . stupidity

Now don't get me wrong- I love Twilight... but for separate reasons that are extremely personal.

But Hollywood turned vampires into a joke. They aren't even viewed as dangerous or deadly anymore.
Vampires are in fact living, breathing creatures. Just like any human, dog, etc.
And they are turned into something to be laughed at with a little sex mixed in.
But that is the clich'e of Hollywood. More the publicity's fault than anything...

The fantasy movies do however offer a new kind of "escape" for many. It is like a window into your own personal fantasy. That is the nice part.

personally, recent films about vampires specifically a movie and its sequel is making me start to hate vampires and werewolves... way to go good looking guy from twilight

To me every single movie out there has there own take on vampires. But I think it is all guess work and what the writers precieve what they think a vampire is even with the B movies out there keep changing up and taken different takes on what they think is the right aspects of what a vampire is.

Say what you will about Twilight...
You have got to give Stephenie Meyer, and everyone else who dares shed light on so-called "myths" credit for coming up with something so stretched

I've been obsessed with vampires from early childhood.The old Christopher Lee movies I began watching @ age 3 to True Blood today.Big Buffy/Angel fan,etc.What irks me most are the conflicting depictions of vampires over the years.One of the things I love most about True Blood is the political theme of vampires trying to 'mainstream'&be accepted by human civilization(of course,the term 'human civilization is an oxymoron,but I digress.)I suppose I was slightly disenchanted for a short time&turned to novels,instead.While I could barely stomach the Twilight movie(Edward&Bella were supposed to look intense,but only managed to look really constipated&I won't even start on the body glitter,as everyone has already voiced their opinion on that matter)the books were marginally better.True Blood has me on the edge of my seat,especially waiting to see what Erik Northman will do next.lol!But have you read the books?The storyline is very different,yet the both the novels&the HBO series still hold my attention.No small accomplishment,because I have A.D.D.&lose interest quickly.lol

I've been obsessed with vampires from early childhood.The old Christopher Lee movies I began watching @ age 3 to True Blood today.Big Buffy/Angel fan,etc.What irks me most are the conflicting depictions of vampires over the years.One of the things I love most about True Blood is the political theme of vampires trying to 'mainstream'&be accepted by human civilization(of course,the term 'human civilization is an oxymoron,but I digress.)I suppose I was slightly disenchanted for a short time&turned to novels,instead.While I could barely stomach the Twilight movie(Edward&Bella were supposed to look intense,but only managed to look really constipated&I won't even start on the body glitter,as everyone has already voiced their opinion on that matter)the books were marginally better.True Blood has me on the edge of my seat,especially waiting to see what Erik Northman will do next.lol!But have you read the books?The storyline is very different,yet the both the novels&the HBO series still hold my attention.No small accomplishment,because I have A.D.D.&lose interest quickly.lol

I've been obsessed with vampires from early childhood.The old Christopher Lee movies I began watching @ age 3 to True Blood today.Big Buffy/Angel fan,etc.What irks me most are the conflicting depictions of vampires over the years.One of the things I love most about True Blood is the political theme of vampires trying to 'mainstream'&be accepted by human civilization(of course,the term 'human civilization is an oxymoron,but I digress.)I suppose I was slightly disenchanted for a short time&turned to novels,instead.While I could barely stomach the Twilight movie(Edward&Bella were supposed to look intense,but only managed to look really constipated&I won't even start on the body glitter,as everyone has already voiced their opinion on that matter)the books were marginally better.True Blood has me on the edge of my seat,especially waiting to see what Erik Northman will do next.lol!But have you read the books?The storyline is very different,yet the both the novels&the HBO series still hold my attention.No small accomplishment,because I have A.D.D.&lose interest quickly.lol

I've been obsessed with vampires from early childhood.The old Christopher Lee movies I began watching @ age 3 to True Blood today.Big Buffy/Angel fan,etc.What irks me most are the conflicting depictions of vampires over the years.One of the things I love most about True Blood is the political theme of vampires trying to 'mainstream'&be accepted by human civilization(of course,the term 'human civilization is an oxymoron,but I digress.)I suppose I was slightly disenchanted for a short time&turned to novels,instead.While I could barely stomach the Twilight movie(Edward&Bella were supposed to look intense,but only managed to look really constipated&I won't even start on the body glitter,as everyone has already voiced their opinion on that matter)the books were marginally better.True Blood has me on the edge of my seat,especially waiting to see what Erik Northman will do next.lol!But have you read the books?The storyline is very different,yet the both the novels&the HBO series still hold my attention.No small accomplishment,because I have A.D.D.&lose interest quickly.lol

I've been obsessed with vampires from early childhood.The old Christopher Lee movies I began watching @ age 3 to True Blood today.Big Buffy/Angel fan,etc.What irks me most are the conflicting depictions of vampires over the years.One of the things I love most about True Blood is the political theme of vampires trying to 'mainstream'&be accepted by human civilization(of course,the term 'human civilization is an oxymoron,but I digress.)I suppose I was slightly disenchanted for a short time&turned to novels,instead.While I could barely stomach the Twilight movie(Edward&Bella were supposed to look intense,but only managed to look really constipated&I won't even start on the body glitter,as everyone has already voiced their opinion on that matter)the books were marginally better.True Blood has me on the edge of my seat,especially waiting to see what Erik Northman will do next.lol!But have you read the books?The storyline is very different,yet the both the novels&the HBO series still hold my attention.No small accomplishment,because I have A.D.D.&lose interest quickly.lol

I think that Hollywood is clearly positioning vampires into 2 categories : the bad vampire (fanged) and the good vampire (de-fanged).

Fanged or Defanged, the difference in these two types of vampires is very distinct and elemental as from one aspect let's say the fanged, the vampire becomes a more dangerous and scary individual that would certainly instill fear and horror to the object of his or her affections. From the defanged perspective, the act alone that the vampire is fighting his own nature by willingly refusing to drink blood or at least bite/kill the object of his/her affections, automatically romanticizes the vampire and creates a tortured, brooding gentle monster, thus feeding the obsession that people are demonstrating today when it comes to vampires.

Hollywood just makes things glossy for those who are going to watch the movies. The better the story behind things the more ppl will flock to see it.

To me I beleive it represents intertanment. Even though the main first Vampire movies were horrible and made it out to be ugly horrible creatures. But through time they changed them into a sight of beauty

i really do not like to many ideas of hollywood vampires because they seem to point a dark grim thought of our way . it causes people to fear us and scares people . i teach people i know so they have no fear of my ways and they are comfortable with it ,. most people i meet are unsder the thought that were out for blood and gonna hurt people and kill them . people are stpuid when they are dumb to the facts . I just think they make us look bad where as some movies make us look good ,.

you're right, 'people are stupi'.. and to me, Hollywood has always pandered to the masses.

I see your point. I must change my oppinon and say that I agree

thank you.. though I so wish people could view Hollywood mainstream with more jaundiced eyes.

I mean.. if they can distort history, as they did in 'Titanic' and 'Saving Private Ryan'.. think on to what they do to the myth/legend/lore of the vampire.

I see where you are comeing from. I can at least say they do make the Vampires look better in most reasent movies then in the old black and white one. Cause for instant like in the movie Twilight they made the Cullens undeniably attactive to the humans in the movie. And in the movie Underworld how they made them burtal when had to be yet at times careing and gental. So not all the hollywood views are bad. But some of them are horrible and disgrasses the name of the vampre and all who are.

.. a fair estimation. I'll grant you.
For me though, it's the way they write the established, as 'their' truth..

I see what you are saying. And I agree. they use material as they think it is. not pure hard facts just what they think true vampre's are like. Though I can garentee that it is wronge. I have seen many different movies yet none of them truely tells the story as it is in facts. They use their fantasies as they think it should be.

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