So I just got a copy of this book called "The Biggest Secret" by David Icke, and this book seems to have everything in it. It's non-fiction and 541 pages!!! By the time you reach chapter 3 you get a very clear idea how the whole thing revolves around the true origin or the vampire. It also explains the Sumerian Tablets and how all religions were created as false religions to change the information and to hide the truth. It's a very good read, I'm still in the middle of the book.
Has anyone else read this book yet? Read the sample I posted below, you might just want to check this out for yourself.
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networks, under the names of their various deities, were created by the Babylonian Brotherhood to serve their needs. We have seen that the accounts of the Watchers and their offspring, the Nefilim, include references to their blood drinking activities. The Brotherhood know that blood contains the life-force energy. Drinking menstrual blood
has always been a feature of the reptilian bloodlines because they need blood to live in this dimension. It was known as the Star Fire, the female lunar essence. The female menstrual cycle is governed by the cycles of the Moon and the blood contains that energy. It’s ingredients are supposed to ensure a long life. In India it was called soma and in Greece it was ambrosia, some researchers suggest. This was said to be the nectar of the gods and it was - the reptilian gods who are genetic blood drinkers. The ‘holy grail’ chalice or cup is also symbolic of the womb and drinking menstrual blood, as well as being a symbol of the reptilian ‘royal’ bloodline itself. Menstrual blood was provided for the Elite of the reptilian ‘royal’ line by virgin priestesses and this is the origin of the term ‘Scarlet Woman’ or, to the Greeks, ‘Sacred Woman’. The Greek word for this, Hierodulai, was eventually translated into English as harlot and into German as ‘hores’, the origin of whore. The word ritual derives from this practice (ritu = redness) and so do the words rite and red. Menstrual blood is one reason why the colour red is so important to Satanists and it is another reason for the constant use of the colour gold by the ‘royal’ bloodlines. Gold is called the metal of the gods, but to the Anunnaki of the Sumerian Tablets, menstrual blood was the ‘gold of the gods’.
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Pg. 288
Upir, calling Upir, where are you when we need you?
I like all the emphasis on menstrual blood. Hopefully, it's not just on this one page.
Yeah... I was thinking of him when I posted this, he knows the most about vampire legend....
I'm really interested in what he has to say about this book, or if he's looked at it yet.
It also explains Dracula...
This book is very complex!
Keep in mind, the book is not about myths, it's all facts!
Well, at least 99% of it.
Wow - this is very interesting, and it looks like another book for my collection!
I'm not at all surprised with the blood lore in regards to women; blood is powerful stuff. Women are usually considered as being more in tune to 'Mother Nature'. On the negative side, being physically attacked, or in a lesser form - being put down with terms like whore, slut, etc comes as no surprise.
A woman who is percieved to have power is a very scary thing to patriarchial societies - then and now.
Is interesting how it took you to read a book to understand that: about- religions being created to blur/divert the truth, I thought it was obvious with the mainstream history given to the general mass and a little reasoning behind the various measures they took to preserve that in which they held as "truth" by slaying all people who believed in classical gods, those "witches", "vampires", and "heretics". As for 'Starfire' and all the menstrual blood rite, it was all -Zachariah Sitchin's work, he wrote about it with the Annunakis in his "translations of the Sumerian tablets" and the longevity of this ancient beings life spans by that ritual. I believe -David Icke is connecting a lot of dots that don't go together in various topics, and thus making everything be for some reason a global/bloodline conspiracy by E.T Reptillian race in every position in power in all times; I wouldn't disagree with some of his arguments and the relation of his work contents around the world with gods that seamed as reptiles by human eyes, but he is going a little 'loco' with all of it.
As for the book, sounds like an interesting reading tool, given that he took the measures to explain words/meanings/stories/symbols of different cultures and how those stories correlates to one another around the world, something only noticed if you take the drastic measures to read all of them and indulge in ancient civilization in contrast with classical overview of divinity, and some constructive imagination.
And for vampires among us, is all about heterogeneous interbreeding of species and the whole "Watchers" failing purpose in this planet, the "fallen angel" mistranslation of Sumerian counterpart of "winged gods", and the reason of being banned from the intergalactic system into this planet.
hey, haha
I already knew about the religions being false, but this is the only book I've found so far that explains the Sumerian Tablets, and in a way that explains how they were changed to say other things in other religions and why.
Also... some food for thought here,
Who would create a plan for world domination that takes many many many many many generations and incorporate methods that had not been invented yet?
Yep, you guessed it! IMMORTALS
...and they have Skin As White As Snow!
This book is the best collection of recorded facts I've come across so far!
Ambrosia was believed to be orange juice (yes, you actually drink the drink of gods!), soma means drinkers (seekers) of truth, etc. I can go on. None of this has anything to do with menstrual blood. The real Biggest Secret is that people fall for this BS and pay money for it.
Hi everyone! hehehe
Thanx for all the psychic calls; apparently I heard a few of you as I just logged on and immediately took a peek at this new topic.
The first and greatest red flag to the legitimacy of this book is the author of the book, himself: David Icke.
David Icke is... frankly... nuts, as well as a self-proclaimed anti-Semite who openly endorses the world-domination theories of the already-proven-as-fraudulent "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" used by Hitler to promote his own ultra-right-wing anti-Semiticism.
Mr. Icke's only credentials are having been a former professional soccer player and sports announcer who became mesmerized by New Age religion and the most outrageous of conspiracy theories. To this day He actually believes that all world leaders are reptilian aliens who appear Human when in public.
This is the sort of person you are listening to when you read his books.
If you wish to read a fairly comprehensive overview of who and what David Icke is all about, take a few minutes to read the following: http://www.publiceye.org/Icke/IckeBackgrounder.htm.
Now, with regard to what is described in the excerpt of "The Biggest Secret" provided... there is absolutely NO evidence that the Annunaki were reptilian and tons of evidence that they were Human, not the least of these being the fact that they mated with Human females and by them had Human children.
The Annunaki (not "Anunnaki" as Icke erroneously spells it) are described in Sumerian, Egyptian, and also ancient American texts as being Caucasian-looking Humans with gold or white hair and all of them having blue eyes. It is precisely because of their blue eyes that the Sumerian statues made depicting these Annunaki were all made with large Lapis Lazuli (bright blue stones) eyes. This is also the reason why such stones were considered sacred by the Sumerians. Additionally, the famous Wedjet Eye (The Eye of Horus) seen so often in Egyptian hieroglyphics was also .. blue, to denote the actual color of Horus' eyes.
There are, as would be expected, no verified depictions of the Annunaki as being reptilian.
Additionally, I challenge Mr. Icke to provide any evidence whatsoever that the Annunaki drank Human blood of any sort, menstual or otherwise. Just as "vampires" never drank blood (I have explained this far too often to attempt doing so again here), so also the Annunaki never did, either. There is absolutely NO Sumerian rites that involved blood drinking. As I have often stated previously and as can be found amply attested online, the highest Sumerian ceremony given them by the Annunaki was the lovely "Hieros Gamos" ceremony in which the King (a descendant of the Annunaki) mated with the priestess of Innana (later called a Hierodule by their Akkadian and later Babylonian conquerors who stripped women of their dignity and humiliated them by forcing them into what THEY (their new male rulers) called "sacred prostitution"... hence the term "hierodule," which meant, in effect, "sacred (sex) slave."
Women's sexuality, which was so vastly superior to that of normal man (yet fully equal with that of the actual Annunaki), had to be supressed by force... and such has continued since then to the present day. And, thus was lost one of the only civilzations to ever exist where men AND women were glorified and revered.
As for the "Holy Grail"... the book "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" (HBHG) and Dan Brown's book and movie "The Da Vinci Code" (that so closely mirrored the far superior explanations and historical accounts found in HBHG), are far more accurate and closer to the truth than anything you will find written elsewhere... certainly anything you'll find penned by the rather despicable (imho) David Icke.
Anyway... for what it was worth... that's my brief $0.02 worth.
- Upir'
Thanks Upir for your insight, I know all the facts in Icke's book were strung together by his speculations so it's always good to get other views on this.
Have you read this book though?
Since the book is mostly information taken from other sources, I found this the most interesting thing about the book.
I know everyone on the net says he's crazy, and when that's all we hear, it's easy to just see his name and reply in a post "he's crazy", but all the stuff people say he says or thinks is actually twisted from the truth. Until you've read this book, you won't really know for sure.
No, I have'nt read the book in question but Icke's reputation goes before him...and not in a good way.
He was pretty well laughed out of the UK some years ago after an interview he gave on prime time tv.
The short passage you have outlined here does'nt move me to read the book, but if you are enjoying it that's good, give it some thought and make up your own mind.
Started to read the book but lost interest a third of the way-somewhat frazzled (to say the least) at the opinions/"facts" put forth in accordance to what I've studied in the past. This isn't a personal shot, Selective, its just one opinion in a million-I'm a big Sitchin fan and even some of his stuff worries me sometimes.
I feel similarly, coolleyhou... I, too, used to be a Sitchin fan until he began to go off on unsubstantiated tangents about the Annunaki, describing them as spacefarers who crash-landed on Earth and were drilling or otherwise mining for gold to fuel their spaceships. (Sounds remarkably like a very bad "Lost in Space" episode.)
However, for me what discredited Sitchin once and for all was after I learned that Sitchin was so inept at translating Sumerian that he couldn't even get the translation right for the term "Annunaki," itself. While he translated it as meaning "Those who from heaven to Earth came," yet actual Sumerologists (in particular, Dr. Tinney of the "Pennsylvania Sumerian Dictionary" project) who correctly translated "Annunaki" as: "Sons of the Heavenly Prince" (which is surprisingly close to being directly synonymous with the term given this same group in the Book of Genesis as the "Bene ha Elohim" [Sons of God]).
Thus, if Sitchin couldn't even get "Annunaki" right... then he surely couldn't translate Sumerian well enough to get anything else right, either.
- Upir'
Wow...if the author is an anti-Semite crazy-poo, I won't be buying his book either.
Still - there is some interesting stuff in the book.
i read this and thought it was fiction:/
a bit wierd lol... menstral blood? really?
but anti-semist and hated all races and was convinced he was a reptillian alien
ok I read this a few times because I just ws like WTF? Mentral Blood huh. well to me I feel that they are just calling it how they want (or he wants ) Scarlet woman to me has always been the woman who would have an affair with a married man ot taken man, grant it the cycle of the planet does play a role in the womans menstral cycle, yet i could write a whole book around it also yet, would it be accurate.. that would be my concern.
The Holy grail /chalise is somehow regarde tothe mentral blood. that is just ewww to me
Grant it back in the ancient times amny believed that Mentral blood did hold powers and some cultural kept virgins and women just for the monthly blood supply yet, whether or not if that was true is also a good question.
at best this book is worth check out the facts and where he got his in fo at least that is my opinion.
after reading the thoughts of those here, i think ill give it a miss...at least for now. while there may be facts in it that are of interest to me, still, i dont have much time for anti semites (or anti anyone for that matter).
ive always been interested in summarian myth and legend, but if he cant translate even a god name, then i cant imagine that he would have much info for me.
~W~
However, for me what discredited Sitchin once and for all was after I learned that Sitchin was so inept at translating Sumerian that he couldn't even get the translation right for the term "Annunaki," itself. While he translated it as meaning "Those who from heaven to Earth came," yet actual Sumerologists (in particular, Dr. Tinney of the "Pennsylvania Sumerian Dictionary" project) who correctly translated "Annunaki" as: "Sons of the Heavenly Prince" (which is surprisingly close to being directly synonymous with the term given this same group in the Book of Genesis as the "Bene ha Elohim" [Sons of God]).
Thus, if Sitchin couldn't even get "Annunaki" right... then he surely couldn't translate Sumerian well enough to get anything else right,
either.
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Upir, nice imput yet is obvious that the research of mainstream science is going to be well, mainstream for the sake of the carrear, just as we have thousands of archaeologist supporting the idea of the pyramids being erected in 20 years with a ramp clinging a height more than the pyramids itself for it's construction. Many many scientist and even archaeologist avoid objects in which deviates from mainstream realizations even this under the table they cannot explain with what is on text books. I'm sure they are not going to talk about reptillian aliens who drank starfire in a professional stance.
Zachariah S. Even though he has many outrageous theories, it hold concrete & validating support of many of his work with various astronomical scientist and other archeologist around the globe. To take the gospel and Genesis books and maybe even the Dead Sea Scrolls if you will- to contrast any other source is vastly flawed to even talk about facts given that does books are most notably mistranslation or edited from pre Babylonian mythology, The word Elohim itself is plural for multiple gods so there you have a gap. All in all is just your theory as they hold their, and something being on genesis or even history sometimes can't support nothing more than theories.
As for David Icke I believe you discredit alot of his work which is vastly theories alone of all his research around the world and sometimes even secret societies take on what really happened in the past, so is only something people could accept with faith like many things out there, mainstream history being one of them.
Hehe if I made any errors I'm on my phone and apologize for the autocorrector.
Bravo, Upir..! It did indeed begin to sound a bit like an old episode of Lost In Space, now that you mention it. I couldn't have thought of a better metaphor. He writes as if he were writing for the sci-fi channel, sometimes. Ha! Love it!
and of late the writing on sci fi (sorry...its now sifi lol) has gone down the toilet. last thing good on there was battle star galactica. wait a min...did he say that humans came from space?
did he mention the cylons by any chance?
~W~
Alright for some summary of it all here is a brief theory/study:
http://loveenki.blogspot.com/2009/07/enki-and-history-of-humankind-1-i-am.html
-which support vast amount of cultural and dogmatic facts about serpents and serpent-like gods/dess of cultures around the globe as well as interesting scope of the Sumerians and their story of their deities. Some parts are pure Authors research & interpretation but his base is strong on translations and authentic research.
As I said earlier Z. Sitchin's has nothing to do with any Reptillian race, that is pure interpretation of David Icke's recorded data throughout his personal findings/studies; Z. Sitchin always described the Annunakis as Tall, blue eyes, blond haired- human looking individuals that are also referred as Nordics in New age approach.
There are some loopholes in the link argument above, yet it should serve as a nice reading for understanding the cultural symbology of the snake/serpertine around the globe sacred image and its adoption on given rituals; as well as why its everywhere from medicine, divine symbology, to secret orders, etc.
"last thing good on there was battle star galactica. wait a min...did he say that humans came from space?"
~Lordwolf
If you can explain with genetic approach(which is by far the most accurate in the field), why H. Sapiens have more mtDNA/DNA relation with Homo Erectus, than H. Neanderthals with H. Sapiens then we have a window; H. Nentherthalis being our close "ancestors" in mainstream science (Evolution), Genetically proven that it does not hold relation between enough genetic makeup for Homo Neanderthalis to be classified in the same subgroup of homo sapiens (as: homo sapiens Neanderthalis), Is being debated that this emergence of our early specie of H. Sapiens came about the same time of neanderthals were disappearing giving an indication that both hominids could've been in fact living in the same time period once, then we could have a "door" for ancient mythology to explain the gap in current understanding, to remount in speculation; I would say our lineage as natural hominids in this planet were Neanderthals, in a intervention we could have being mixed and tempered genetically speaking and thus ending the natural process of this planet specialization of genetic family, there is more genetic relation with a very ancient ancestor H. Erectus than earlier "H.Neanderthals" so it could be possible that "they" used the early Hominid H. Erectus and genetically altered it to create a more rational and conscious being to intellectually carry out the task a earlier hominid couldn't by its primitive surviving psyche.
The Neanderthal was probably not human ( Krings , 1999).
Mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA)
Our mtDNA is identical to that of and inherited solely from our mother. Like all DNA, mtDNA mutates occasionally so that one of the bases (A, C, G, or T) changes to a different base. Due to these mutations, human mtDNA slowly diverges (changes), with the amount of mutation roughly proportional to the time that has passed. The result is that the similarity of mtDNA for any two humans or a human and a neanderthal, provides a rough estimate of how closely they are related through their maternal ancestors. If they have identical mtDNA, they are fairly closely related, possibly even siblings. If they have very different mtDNA, it means their last common maternal ancestor lived long ago.
The genome of Neanderthals is expected to differ significantly from the genome of anatomically modern man (Scholz et al, 2000). (Further genetic discoveries my prove otherwise: the absence of Neanderthal mtDNA in living humans does not eliminate the possibility of some genetic continuity with modern humans (Relethford, 2001), (Hoss, 2000), (Stringer, 1999)). "A certain degree of prudence is necessary before drawing any conclusions" (Caramelli et al, 2003). Caramelli et al,( 2003) found that the mtDNAs of early anatomically modern humans and of chronologically close Neandertals were very different. They studied two human fossils dated at between 23,000 and 25,000 years old and found that they appear to have genetic "sequences fully compatible with the variation observed both in contemporary and in ancient samples of anatomically modern humans, and certainly they do not show any special relationships with the almost contemporary Neandertals". These results contradict the one view that Neanderthals are genetically related with the anatomically modern ancestors of current Europeans or that they contributed to the present day human gene pool.
Genetic evidence from a comparison of human and Neanderthal mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) shows that while chimpanzee and human lineages diverged over five million years ago, the Neanderthals diverged over 550,000 to 690,000 years ago. Other data places this estimate at between 365,000 and 853,000 years ago (Ovchinnikov, et al, 2000) and 465,000 before present with confidence limits of 317,000 and 741,000 (Krings, 1999) . Human trunk and limb bones of Homo antecessor , recovered from the Gran Dolina site, in the Sierra de Atapuerca (Burgos, Spain) have been dated at about 780,000 old and are said to represent the last common ancestor for H. sapiens (modern humans) and H. neanderthalensis (Neanderthals) (Carretero et al , 1999). Living humans have on average eight differences in the 378-unit DNA strand investigated, while the Neanderthal differed in 27 places and the chimpanzees differ in 55 places. Further, the mtDNA sequence of Neanderthals was equally distant from all modern groups of humans. Two other studies gave similar differences between humans, neanderthals and chimpanzees, putting the Neanderthals outside the range of modern human mtDNA and therefore a different species. The two Neanderthal individuals studied differed from each other in 12 base pairs. By comparison, 37% of modern Africans differ by 12 or more base pairs, while for Europeans and Asians, the diversity is much less (
Both Ike and Sitchen are full of conspiracy bull, but they have both been published, so they both seem to have credibility when writing works of sci-fi that others would placate.
I have researche both individuals for my upcoming book that basically outlines the origins of our species in a nutshell. The reptilian idea was Ike's as far fetched as it sounds, conspiracy theorists flock to it like flies. Very dramatic, to say the least.
But, no. There is no such thing as an reptilian race of either alien or dimensional origin. As well as no documented proof thereof.
I would read ~Upir's~ conclusions on this matter as they are closer to the truth then one would realize. The fair haired, blue eyed race he is discussing were called the hyperborean race called the Thule to which Hitler wanted his "master race" to reflect.
Correct me at any time ~Upir~.
The human mind is fascinating. How we like to build on improvable theories with more wild assertions is comical at best and blatantly absent of a logical methodology.
Well, evidently it is still a big secret because I happen to know many on here know about this stuff and are keeping very quiet...
Errr...what was that?
OK , I,ll shut-up.
Attention Everyone!!!
It has come the time for me to reveal a great misfortune upon you all... It may come as a shock, but know that you will be waking up, yet again... cause you are still a sleep.
What I'm about to tell you I did not learn from this book, but on my own. Listen to what I'm about to say V E R Y C A R E F U L L Y ! ! !
An anti-Semite is anyone that is not Jewish and is seen as a threat to the Jewish community. If you are Atheist, you are automatically an anti-Semite, if you are non-religious, you are automatically an anti-Semite, if you speak of love without any religions at all, you are automatically an anti-Semite. This is not a label one chooses, it's one placed on you by the Jewish community to ensure political government domination over the general public by implanting FEAR into anyone that may listen to you, so they don't listen to you.
The Zeitgeist Movement in Germany was promoting their selves as Anti-Religion and they never said anything bad about Jews. The Jews running the Jewish community saw their movement as a threat so they cried "anti-Semites" and their peace movement was removed from a public profile site.
I'm actually reading David Icke's books, and he only speaks of the TRUTH OF RELIGIONS about how they were all created after The Sumerian Tablets and came from The Sumerian Tablets! He's never said one hateful thing, and he only speaks of love. The Jews that run the Jewish community don't want to and can't accept this fact so they cried "anti-Semite" on him also, so anyone that may listen to him will be more likely to turn away IN FEAR.
So do you have any interest in the Sumerian Tablets? To find out more about THE TRUTH? Congratulations, the Jewish community will soon label you as an "anti-Semite" so no one will listen to you also. HOW DOES IT FEEL???
hmmmmm, you are all still a sleep. *shakes head* This isn't about the Jews, it's about Religion!!! It's all false and they don't want you to know it. The only thing real is the Sumerian Tablets, and weather we know what they say or not, doesn't change this fact! The only thing we can be certain of is that it's the only writing that has not been changed.
So tell me, are you all still asleep, or was that a hard enough slap in the face to make your brain cells work a little.
I believe you are right, but is useless to shout out others beliefs even though you got to where you at, as I said before he might have few points straight but by all mean just because he has some points doesn't make all what he says the whole truth. You cannot wake anyone withthis form of countering, you can simply put your toys for others to play and get where you stand by themselves, everyone has a pace of awakening some would not do it in this lifetime so don't bother on enlightening anyone but influencing interest with quotes like you have provided above.
The Sumerian tablets is not the Holy Grail of what is really out there and not even the full version of it at all. The reason we got it is because it was upon discovery of modern archaeology, and yet for the sake of preserving their power or job sometimes are mistranslated. We do owe this two authors a great deal for their work instead of just dismissing many things worth of contemplation and research.
You see they spend their lives traveling and doing archaeological and anthropology work to understand where we coming from and what is the buried history of this planet along with the ancient mysteries. As for the Sumerian story, it is not that the Sumerian civilization witnessed this tales, it was much older that summer they happen to record the history; nothing of what they said was 6,000 bC it is possible that it stretches back more than 15,000-30,000 or even more. As for the religion institution is only obvious it was designed, Abraham was actually the son of a Babylonian priest, the priest in Babylon were more or less the right hand of the god/kings and held special practices and knowledge that today may be seen as magik, occult science, metaphysics arts or alchemy. This Abraham lineage roam a specific oral/practical tradition that spread among the general public of the times much like we had on the Roman Catholic reformation, it spreader even more into other roots along his lineage. And created the division we have today from a single source with much likeness in construction. The others Asian dinasties had different belief system predating back as well tuning from Indian similarities as well. Much of the Africans did up until the clash of cultural expansion and exchange of culture. It is obvious that those monotheistic cultures had roots on a new created paradigms not of ancient rootings.
I will continue later on my computer...
Any man who holds the "TRUTH OF RELIGIONS" is surely selling something. Lucky for him, you bought it.
haha
xXTroublexX, very well said.
You must admit though, it's better to have no religions than any religions at all.
... but the old saying "They Bought It", should be changed to "They Free Downloaded It". All knowledge is free.
Either way, until I see a giant photo book showing every stone tablet of the Sumerian Tablets in life size images, with a chapter added to the book teaching you to read it so there can be no mistranslation, then I'll never be satisfied with bits and pieces of others interpretations of it.
The trouble with that logic is that you are still relying on someone to teach you how to translate.
Are you suggesting no one knows?
In that case, they should make posters from the photos of the Sumerian Tablets that can be hung in every church all around the world so everyone can sit and stare at them and droll...
I'm sure then someone would figure it out.
Does anyone know where I can find photos of the stone tablets?
You don't need a lot of observing to understand most of them, in the case of the: Cuneiform tablets that is;( some of this below are Sumerian/Akkadian/Assyrian different periods same evolving civilization)
http://aseekingspirit.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/sumerian-4500-year-old-tablet-detailing-solar-system.jpg
http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/01jan/annunaki.jpg
http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/images/SumerianGiantKing.jpeg
http://www.acoloss.net/pc/consp/lilithdiag.jpg
http://awaken.weebly.com/uploads/7/2/8/7/728744/4771496.jpg
http://www.fortunecity.com/tatooine/acegarp/898/sumer2.gif
http://www.greatdreams.com/sumeriam-reptilian.jpg
As for the other clay tablets well it requires understanding of early mesopotamian root languages such as: aramaic, phoenician, some persian rootings to understand everything from last to front. Instead of 1-2-3 you have to learn how to go 3-2-1 to get a clear overview, but there are archaeological findings of scribal school from old babylonian culture, so there you have a focus point- then again you need to learn both ways for accurate reading and writing. So if you want to translate it you will have to be a linguistic of many many ancient languages= all of your life hehe, I started few years back, but is very puzzling how one pictograms change from one culture to another, to prevent bias information try to learn the basics to the complex by your own, mainstream archaeologist will most likely interpret things as mainstream, a spacecraft with few individuals as clear as in some cuneiform interpretations they would teach you as a... i don't know... a divine light in the sky or something related to mythologic deities as they paint all of it, or perhaps a disk with eagle wings, and they paint it as simply a cloud or something, when in fact could mean a disk that has the ability to fly like an eagle, or the ability to fly in their ways to describe it; and yet mainstream science sees it as if people were nuts and delusional back then.
http://www.sevenfoldtruth.com/urantia-clues23.htm
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/Sales_contract_Louvre_AO2753.jpg
http://mechanicrobotic.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/sumerian-clay-tablet.jpeg
If I ever run across this book I would most likely buy it and read it for the entertainment value. I have read some of Sitchin's work. I find it interesting. Obviously it is far fetched but entertaining all the same.
I don't believe everything I read regardless who the author is nor what his/her credentials are. I read books to occupy my mind and to pass time. Somtimes this reason alone is worth reading controversial books.
None of those pics looked like the stone tablets. I saw a special on t.v. that showed all the stone tablets were identical in height, width, and depth. It never showed the surface of any of them, but did show a woman wrapping them up and putting them in a kind a volt and sealing them away so no one could ever see them. They were dark gray and must have been 3ft wide, 5ft tall, 5in thick. Something close to those measurements. Can't remember how many they said their were but I would guess it was somewhere in the hundreds.
I'll see if I can find something about that show I saw where it showed the tablets being sealed away.
UpirLikhyj once again your information and insights are fantastic :)
I haven't read this book, but some time ago I did read the holy blood holy grail book. I wouldn't mind reading it just to well check it out.
I find the references to the reptilian race rather bizarre, but the menstrual blood rights fascinating.
I am surprised no one in this thread have mentioned the Emerald Tablet. Manly P. Hall 33rd Degree M.M. wrote about it in his book: The Lost Keys of Freemasonry. A short description of this tablet:
The Emerald Tablet is one of the most revered documents in the Western World, and its Egyptian author, Hermes Trismegistus, has become synonymous with ancient wisdom. His tablet contains an extremely succinct summary of what Aldous Huxley dubbed the "Perennial Philosophy," a timeless science of soul that keeps popping up despite centuries of effort to suppress it. The basic idea is that there exists a divine or archetypal level of mind that determines physical reality, and individuals can access that realm through direct knowledge of God.
The teachings of Hermes -- the Hermetic tradition -- is one of the oldest spiritual traditions in the world, and while no direct evidence links the Emerald Tablet to Eastern religions, it shares uncanny similarities in concepts and terminology with Taoism, Hinduism, and Buddhism. In the West, the tablet found a home not only in the pagan tradition but also in all three of the orthodox Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, and Islam), and many of the most heretical beliefs of the Gnostics are also openly expressed in it. Like the authors of the tablet, the Gnostics believed that direct knowledge of reality could be attained through psychological discipline and meditative exercises. They also shared a common view of the universe in which "All Is One," a pattern of creation and decay symbolized by the Ouroboros (the snake eating its own tail).
Without doubt, the Emerald Tablet was the inspiration behind many other esoteric traditions, including over 1,700 years of alchemy. Most medieval alchemists hung a copy of the tablet on their laboratory wall and constantly referred to the "secret formula" it contained. In fact, during the sixteenth century, Hermes Trismegistus was such a revered figure that there was a movement to have his teachings replace those of Aristotle in European schools.
Five hundred years later, the tablet's words are still held in the highest regard. "The Emerald Tablet is the cryptic epitome of the alchemical opus," noted Jungian analyst Dr. Edward Edinger, "a recipe for the second creation of the world." Ethnobotanist and consciousness guru Terence McKenna agrees, calling the tablet "a formula for a holographic matrix" that is mirrored in the human mind and offers mankind its only hope for future survival. "Whatever one chooses to believe about it," sums up John Matthews in The Western Way (Penguin 1997), "there is no getting away from the fact that the Emerald Tablet is one of the most profound and important documents to have come down to us. It has been said more than once that it contains the sum of all knowledge -- for those able to understand it."
However, there is one nagging problem with the Emerald Tablet: Nobody seems to know for sure where it came from, or who really wrote it.
Timeless Myths and Church Politics
Part of the problem trying to figure out the origins of the Emerald Tablet comes from the many legends that cloud its history. In one of the earliest of these fabled scenarios, Hermes was a son of Adam and wrote the tablet to show mankind how to redeem itself from his father's sins in the Garden of Eden. Jewish mystics identify the tablet's author with Seth, who was the second son of Adam. They credit him with writing the Emerald Tablet, which was taken aboard the ark by Noah. After the Flood, Noah supposedly hid the tablet in a cave near Hebron, where it was later discovered by Sarah, wife of Abraham. Another version describes Hermes giving the tablet to Miriam, daughter of Moses, for safekeeping. She allegedly put it in the Ark of the Covenant, where it remains to this day. Occult historians generally agree that the tablet was found in a secret chamber under the pyramid of Cheops around 1350 BC. Another interesting legend describes Hermes as a philosopher traveling in Ceylon in the fifth century BC. He found the Emerald Tablet hidden in a cave, and after studying it, learned how to "travel in both heaven and earth." This Hermes spent the rest of his life wandering throughout Asia and the Middle East teaching and healing. Oddly, the Hindu sacred book Mahanirvanatantra states that Hermes was the same person as Buddha, and each is referred to as the "Son of the Moon" in other Hindu religious texts.
Probably the only constant in all these legends is what the Emerald Tablet looked like. It is always described as a rectangular green plaque with bas-relief lettering in a strange alphabet similar to ancient Phoenician. It is made of emerald or green crystal, and the workmanship is exquisite. Caves, corpses, ancient Egypt, and secret wisdom are common themes in many of the stories.
The history of the tablet was further complicated when its alleged author became associated with the Corpus Hermeticum in the Middle Ages. The seventeen treatises of the Corpus expand on the principles of the Emerald Tablet and appear to be records of intimate conversations between Hermes and his disciples. For over three centuries, they were thought by the Catholic Church to be very ancient and held in the highest esteem. The church fathers believed the Corpus Hermeticum lent support to Christian doctrines, and the documents were required reading for European scholars. Images of Hermes adorned cathedrals all over Europe, and to this day, a giant fresco dominates the Borgia Apartments of the Vatican that shows Hermes, adorned with Hermetic symbols, walking in the company of Moses.
So it caused a great scandal in 1614 when Protestant scholar Isaac Causabon declared these documents forgeries written by "semi-Christians" sometime between 200 and 300 AD. He based his conclusion on a linguistic analysis that dated the writings to that era. For the next two hundred years, the Hermetic literature, which had been embraced by the early followers of Christ, was condemned by Christians everywhere. Although it was not officially part of the Corpus Hermeticum, the Emerald Tablet suffered the fate of all writings attributed to Hermes and went underground in a variety of secret organizations such as the Rosicrucians and Freemasonry.
The reverence with which these diverse groups continued to hold the Emerald Tablet is exemplified in the following paragraph from the Morals and Dogma of Freemasonry: "He who desires to attain the understanding of the Grand Word and the possession of the Great Secret, ought carefully to read the Hermetic philosophers, and will undoubtedly attain initiation, as others have done; but he must take, for the key of their allegories, the single dogma of Hermes, contained in his Table of Emerald." There are other more veiled references to the Hermetic tradition in Freemasonry. For instance, their sacred name "Hiram Ibif" refers to the first Hermes (Hermes Ibis or Thoth), who, according to Masonic tradition, arrived "in the year of the world 2670."
Today, most scholars agree that the Emerald Tablet is separate from or predates the Corpus Hermeticum and was probably the inspiration for them, and in this sense, the Corpus really does contain ancient writings. "In the mystic sense," summarized the nineteenth-century French scholar Artaud, "Thoth or the Egyptian Hermes was the symbol of the Divine Mind; he was incarnated Thought, the Living Word -- the Logos of Plato and the Word of the Christians. So the Corpus Hermeticum really does contain the ancient Egyptian doctrine of which traces can be discovered from the hieroglyphics which still cover the monuments of Egypt."
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The Emerald tablet's writing contains:
True, without falsehood, certain and most true, that which is above is as that which is below, and that which is below is as that which is above, for the performance of the miracles of the One Thing. And as all things are from One, by the mediation of One, so all things have their birth from this One Thing by adaptation. The Sun is its father, the Moon its mother, and the Wind carries it in its belly, its nurse is the Earth. This is the father of all perfection, or consummation of the whole world. Its power is integrating, if it be turned into earth.
Thou shalt separate the earth from the fire, the subtle from the gross, suavely, and with great ingenuity. It ascends from earth to heaven and descends again to earth, and receives the power of the superiors and of the inferiors. So thou hast the glory of the whole world; therefore let all obscurity flee before thee. This is the strong force of all forces, overcoming every subtle and penetrating every solid thing. So the world was created. Hence were all wonderful adaptations, of which this is the manner. Therefore am I called Hermes Trismegistus, having the three parts of the philosophy of the whole world. What I have to tell is completed, concerning the Operation of the Sun.
Translate this as you feel nessessary. I am just offering abit of enlightenment. Its location is beneath the Great Sphinx in Egypt inside the ancient library.
Somarasa can never be amrita or ambrosia.
soma can never be a blood.
it was though the drink of gods or very high caliber yogis, it can never be liked by aghoris or rakkasas.
coz soma is just opposit of blood drinking. and drunk by the class which never used to drink blood and hated blood drinking.
soma can be the out come of any plant or five element's process, but could not give the age lasting power. it would give the healing power or medicine or high energic drink which used to bring long lasting bliss. no other use of soma rasa was there.
Yes the mantra som (ssohm) was life extending in meditation but drink could not make immortal.
Amrita (ambrosia) might be other planetory or this planet's that time gravity built auto element processed drink which would make immortal but this science might have crossed millions of years and that civilization billions of year. thus this tell might not be of this planet. aghore may extend their life by another means. but the case not seen.
one case found that one body found in India in sitting mode and still its nails are increasing and its life is estimated 600 years and no more life symptoms so better we call that body dead or under coma.
SoulShroude - "Correct me at any time ~Upir~"
Nothing here to correct, SS... you're on the right track; I look forward to your book once it's finished.
As for the "Emerald Tablet"... this is one I have no knowledge of, yet. I will have to look into this!
Selective - "An anti-Semite is anyone that is not Jewish and is seen as a threat to the Jewish community."
While obviously any accusation of bigotry can be based upon falsehood, yet this does not mean that all or even most of such are. There are those, many in fact, who are ... indeed ... anti-Semites, racists, misogynists and all other sundry and varied sorts of bigots and hate-mongers, all of whom rightfully deserve such appellations. Thus to try to place the blame of actual anti-semiticism not on those who truly are anti-semites but, instead, on the victims of such hatred is very disturbing. After all, is this not always the methodology used by bigots in justification of their hatred? Do not all such blame the victims of their bigotry for the racial hatred being expressed?
Thus, while there most certainly are incidents where the "race card" is disingenuously used, yet to make a blanket statement that an "anti-Semite" is universally used by Jews to label and vilify anyone who does not agree religiously with Judaism is the exact sort of universal stereotyping most often exhibited by... well... bigots. Thus, let's take care not to make blanket statements regarding the motivations of an entire race or religious group.
And if you are getting this attitude from David Icke's book that you stated you are reading and that discussed, as you also stated, his "truth about religion," then you are indeed being influenced by Icke's well-evidenced racial bigotry against Judaism and the Jewish people (yes... his anti-semiticism).
And both you and Icke seem to ignore entirely the fact that any religion, whether Jewish or otherwise, has been guilty of altering scriptures and historical records. Christianity has been especially guilty of this.
As for the Sumerian Tablets... the reason why they haven't been changed is because they are written on clay tablets thousands of years old in cuneiform, which isn't something that can be altered without making such obvious to all. Further, these tablets have only been able to be deciphered in the 20th Century by experts rather than by religious scholars or scribes. Thus, this has nothing to do with Judaism but the simple fact that only true scientists (archeologists and linguists) have access to them and their results are peer reviewed to better ensure accuracy of translation and context.
However, it must also be acknowledged that the Sumerian Tablets as well as Egyptian hieroglyphics and records... all were written with religion in mind given that all civilizations are founded upon and influenced by their own unique beliefs, myths and superstitions. The point is... NO Human writings are entirely free from such beliefs and worldviews as existed at the time.
- Upir'
sorry cant say i have read that one yet souds like it is good .
Upir, Profound as always... SOULSHROUD.. I wanna see the person who corrects you (Smiles) and I too, look forward to your book.
I am sure I will read this one too as I cant possibly resist temptation..
Like a cat I have far too much curiosity for my own good...
The book sounds very interesting and complex. The website about the author covers a lot of material. I think the book would be an excellent read, although not one you coould read straight through.
"I think the book would be an excellent read, although not one you coould read straight through."
*chuckles* Try me, I have read it straight through and can say that I was NOT impressed in the slightest. Good theories, bad ideas to bring to life. Next thing we know we will be discussing glowing aliens in black trench coats or something that want to control not only Earth, but our galaxy as well.
I haven't heard of it until now. I'll look into it. Thanks for the info of it's contents.