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mistrestsamhain
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All energy, life, deity, etc comes ultimately from one source, The All. As man was first trying to understand how the world around him worked he started to act out things he saw and did. This is where sympathetic magick started. As part of this process, man defined deities for different aspects of life. By believing in and worshiping these different deities, they become a distinctive but connected part of The All. The more the deity was worshiped the stronger it became. As man developed so did the deities he worshiped. Over time some deities were no longer believed in and returned to The All but never totally lost their distinct characteristics. When they are believed in again they again become distinctive but connected to The All.

There is a hierarchy among the Celtic deities. There are major deities and minor deities. Oddly enough this is very similar to the Catholic Church, with their saints. Among the Celtic major deities are those well known ones like Lugh, The Morrigan, Danu, Brigid and Dagda. Less known are the minor Celtic Deities. Among these are The Greenman, The Horned God, Bussumarusm, and Cailleach.

The Celts also believed in reincarnation. When a person passed, before they were reborn, they guided the living members of the clan. Souls were reborn within a clan mainly, passing the wisdom on earlier years on to the living. As souls lived each life they learned important lessons that were needed to help them better understand themselves, life and The All. Each lesson learned was taken into the energy that was that soul. The more they learned the more they evolved and the closer they because to The All.

They believed that the soul evolved until it no longer needed to have a physical form. At this point it joined the all. Like un-evolved souls they to could reincarnate.




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Very interesting! I was intrigued that they referred to ultimate source of everything as "The All," as that is also what the Gnostics referred to it as. Thanks for posting this - I enjoyed it.



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mistrestsamhain
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LOL well that is how it was explained to me. Mind you, my spirit guides are the ones that explained it and they are about as Celtic as you can get. Besides The All they also call it at times The Universal Energy.



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07:19:08 Apr 09 2006
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um its Bussumarus not the other spellin .. sorry i typed it wrong earlier .. o.O



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And again I've learned a new thing.

Thank you.



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it seems liek everytime i come in the forum i learn something new



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mistrestsamhain
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Learning is always a very good thing. :-D



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learnin is always good and is nessary for growth :D



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Thank you for teaching me something new



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And again I've learned a new thing.

Thank you.



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19:51:49 Apr 09 2006
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Thank you for this!!!



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mistrestsamhain
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05:10:01 Apr 10 2006
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i am glad you have liked it.



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Great lesson, thx for posting this. I am a psychic that believe in one form of energy that we all draw upon to learn and use. This energy provides us with the power to learn and grow. With each lesson learned we grow one step closer to a better understanding of our own self and our own capabilities which are endless.



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mistrestsamhain
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One source of energy, that can take any form. ;-)

Very true the more you learn about energy and yourself the more you realize you can do.

It is an amazing thing.



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JedixMasterxCheryl
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This encompasses a lot of my "ideas" ( I have very few beliefs as they lead to "convictions" which can start to close the mind).

I know I have had past lives, and that I am on some sort of an evolutionary spiral.

I just really wish I didn' t have to die and come back and do this again. But, I am sure I will - I am too much of a f*ck up not to!



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mistrestsamhain
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Well if you can learn from them at least you wont have to repeat them. ;-)

The good thing is the higher you get the more you remember from each lifetime.



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21:33:28 Apr 10 2006
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it is good to know that more know then my self



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00:02:26 Apr 11 2006
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enjoyed reading this hope to hear more about it



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mistrestsamhain
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05:36:29 Apr 11 2006
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There as a sister thread to this one. It is titled "Evolution of the Soul".



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07:55:29 Apr 11 2006
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The belief was so strong in the celtic society that even debts could be paid in the next like. They had no fear of death at all.



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08:06:00 Apr 11 2006
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Always enjoy learning more about my heritage - thank you!



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lownignitus
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18:19:51 Apr 11 2006
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thats is true they did many things they promised in the next life if they were not able to fulfil then in the life time they were made...

also there were bonds made in one life time that were in forced in the next and the next ... and so on ... like matings .. or handfastings of one person to another ....



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DemonicAssassin
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18:24:18 Apr 11 2006
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Wow, I had no idea. This is quite an interesting story. I must say that this was quite interesting to me. Thanks for posting it.



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mistrestsamhain
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05:53:26 Apr 12 2006
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You are very right, Honor was all to the Celts. All the Celtic laws were built around honor and lose of it. But that is definately a different topic and not really one for this thread. LOL



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Always good to hear the history of my ancestors being told. Thanks.



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Quiliai
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08:02:04 Apr 12 2006
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Wow... That's amazing! Thanks for informing me.... XD



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lownignitus
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20:17:09 Apr 12 2006
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i always love learnin about my ancestors



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lownignitus
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03:24:55 Apr 14 2006
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bringin it back to the front



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SatinMist
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How interesting, I just made a similiar post regarding the term "The All"..Wonderful article



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ForsakenSilver
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I love how informative the forum can get. Thanks for the post.



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Echo
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A very nice piece of information, and something you obviously feel strongly about.

I love the way in which many philosophies have a sence of pathway, a circle of existence, covering every point of life, whether that be physical or metaphysical.

In my personal belief system, I think that many of these "pathways" lead to a belief in a higher, world enveloping "All" as you have mentioned here, which in it's own right gives humans a distinct responsibility to maintain via worship or ritual.

I am a ig believer in the force fo te human will and the often uptapped power of the psyche, and although I am not a follower of any religion, and don't believe in reincarnation, I really like the idea you have put accross here of the connected will mixed with that of suporting a deity, and someday becoming similar.

Something very thought-provoking fr my wn belief systems as well as others.



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bathymskiss
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our guides are always energies to trust, in the silence and stillness may all hear the knowledge left in the halls of time and the mind.
Thank you for posting.



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Echo
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01:55:45 Apr 15 2006
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Yes, there is definately a lot to learn from nature in all respects.



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I found this wonderful and it is the same for my beliefs. Thank you so much. It gave me the chills.



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lownignitus
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lol well hopefully there is goin to be a follow up thread on this one .... but i do not know at this time ...



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mistrestsamhain
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I am glad you have found this interesting and that people are learning from it. That is why it was written. :-D



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XXcryptangelXX
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wow, very wicked. I'm very happy that you posted this, being as I'm a young Wiccan still learning my way about things. I am deeply enthralled by Celtic perspectives as well. My thanks goes to you.



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Very interesting, I was once told I had an old soul, So does my mother apparently... So that makes sense in my own way @_@ heh, I enjoyed reading that...



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mistrestsamhain
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There very definately are old souls. An old soul can be at any level but are more often found at the higher levels of evolution. One thing that most old souls seem to have in common is that it is difficult for them to fit into modern society.



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Kain15217
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The Celtic ways are good, but for me I'll stick to my Norse ways.



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I've always believed that all aspects of life followed a circle or a cycle. The beginning coming to the end and then repeating itself. I'm glad others believed in this as well.

As for reincarnation, I agree with it over the idea of heaven and hell, but I think there may be something else to it. I don't think our spirits are singular. When they return to The All, I believe they would blend with each other.

A crude example would be play-doh. It becomes whole once more, no longer seperate and no longer the same after it's split up again.



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BroomhildaVonHex
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That's a very interesting post, i loved to read a bit about the celtic world that is so dear to me, good job! :)



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fictro
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good to know thanx a many moon rises



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morrighanschilde20
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I never really considered the horned god a "minor" or "lesser" god. Maybe its because he appears so often in many different forms of paganism. There are many comparissons between the horned god the green man and other gods that really havent been "named" but take on a similar form. But I guess I have a lot more to research now ty!!!



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blackwolf1874
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I have lerned something very interesting and I like to learn new things as much as I can



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very interesting to read. i have heard of this theory from other religions not only the celts.



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lownignitus
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um this wasnt bein posted as a "theory" ....



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mistrestsamhain
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The Horned God/Greenman really are a minor god. But you are right they appear all the time in many many forms. Minor doesn't mean unimportant, by any means. I would hate anyone to think that I meant unimportant by saying minor.



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