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emovampire
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I'm curious as to how you control a trance. I myself am trying to learn so that I can perfect the workings of magic through auras. I've heard that you need to be in a light trance at least to see auras. Therefore I need to know how to put myself in one and how to control it.




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I know there have been articles about seeing oyur aura without being in a trance posted on here before. Look through the general discussion section to see if they are still open, or in the database. As far as puting yourself in a trance, I strongly suggest researching that topic throughly first before trying to do anything so that nothing that is controlllable goes awry. When dealing with things of this nature, you must be fully aware of the consequences and what might happen if you do not understand what you are doing.



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It's not a trance that you need to be in but an altered state of awareness. The alpha sleep state does wonders for seeing other things but this isn't really needed either. To see an aura,, just learn to pull back your thoughts a little while looking at someone without staring. It is also helpful to squint your eyes while doing this. Practice seems to be the key.



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You may also wish to read this article:
Seeing Your Aura

A trance by the way can not be control. In a trance, you are being controled by an outside spirit.



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I see auras...not of everyone but certain ppl, some oly like a blakc and white thing others a color ... its scary if I could do th eoposite by trance or focus I would make sure I never see another aura in my life its just to disturbing



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all control is based on supplication


Billy the Just is right, but this is not to say that new ways of control cannot be configured. Many things have not been done before, and certain things need collaboration of many master apprentice type relationships.

But before you can control something, first you have to be it's slave.

Again Billy the Just is right, I don't know how he knows aboout this but it is true, when we come out of a dream state, or if we wake up quickly after just falling asleep, you will see that you are hypnotized.

There is one other thing you could do to change perception, but it is highly contraversial, and I would be kicked off the site if I even brought it up.

Buut as aa rule in order to know how to hypnotize yourself, you have to alow yourself to be hypnotized by others.



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Well if you get some forms of massage it can alter your state maybe if you incorperate that with forms of hypnotism and meditation and magic you will have more success



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As has been said, you don't need to be in a trance to see auras. It's just practice, and it can be done in a full waking state. To learn to control a trance, you need stronger focus. The more focused you are, the deeper into trance you can go, and the longer you can stay in trance.



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emovampire I am curious about what you mean by 'magic through aura'.

I'm sure that once you follow the advice of the good folk on here you will get to see an aura but you seem to be trying to do something with it.

I thought an aura was just something that you looked at and worked out someone's mood. I didn't know you could do anything else with it.



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Well the aura is only a part of the person's greater energy field, so changing and working with the aura is changing and working with the outer layers of the energy body. Perhaps that's what he means?



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I'm with Billy. When I view auras I go into an alpha state. I use a simple meditation. For me - it's mostly to clear my mind. And the crossing your eyes a bit thing works for me as well. It's rather like those "magic eye" 3-D pictures that uesd to be everywhere. Once you get the hang of it, it comes naturally.
Although, I'm not sure what "magik" you do from this.



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What i mean by magic is like healing, manipulation of other objects, and even sending out a familiar.



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BillytheJust
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Reading auras is great and very helpful for doing healing on people.
The manipulation on objects, if you mean moving them with your mind or changing matter, has nothing to do with auras but with conscience. And your not ready for that yet. Meditation comes first.
As for sending familiars, that is through focus with intent and purpose. Again not with auras.
Please pick one topic that you wish to discuss or this thread will be closed.
~ Billy



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Perhaps it was not familiars exaclty that i read in the article. But it did speak of sending something out with a certain intent to someone. To do somethng to them. Or to stay with them. And it involved using aura to keep it around.



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There is no one correct way to control anything, in my opinion, everyone has to find their own way to control the events in their life. We may need help from time to time, but when it is all said and done you have the final decision. All that can really be done is given advice, it is up to the person receiving it if they want to take it or not.



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I have been in arua workshops. First we do some yoga, then we went into deep meditation to relax our mind and body. We put a person on a chair in front of a white wall, and the room was dimly lit. This may help, this may not.



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LovesEternalDeath
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I'm not sure that you can "control" a trance. I would highly advise making sure that someone is with you whenever you go into an altered state as well.



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09:07:34 Dec 24 2006
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i agree with billy on this one too.... but mostly it takes pratice and over time you will learn to control it...... nothing is easy ... nice article billy i enjoyed reading it.......



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well as for me i am put into tances very easy. and no not light ones.. but if under a trance i ..well.. see and experiances things from thepast. and have to be pulled out of them if put into one.



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23:39:13 Dec 26 2006
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thru practice is how it gets easier to control yer meditative state or trance.breathing, mantras, whatever helps u focus.



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Alternate states, trances, alternate dimensions all of these have only one thing in common it is the release of will. You do not need to learn to control a trance only learn to focus what you are directing your will to or at. It is sort of like spraying water at something in a mist it is weak but when focused it can blast paint off of a wall. The key you are looking for is focus not control.



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drowndeathwithapill
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It is imposible to control a trance



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Annakeeya
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I agree it is impossible to controle a trance, And you don't need to be in one to see an aura, you just open your eyes and you can see them.



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It is possible to control a trance, there are varius levels of trance. A person has to be opened up, and made available to a more powerful force. The more powerful force has full run of your body. There is a sickening feeling that washes over the body, and even though it is to be feared, this power that one person has over another, if you give into it you begin to feel wonderful things. The term for the master effect on the willing slave is the WAVE effect. You sit there and you say pleae stop it.

Stop what?

What you are doign to me

What do you mean?

I feel weird and good but more weird than good, so stop it

do you really want me to stop this wave rushing over your body, because if you do ask me to stop, and you do opt out on my power over you you will never feel the WAVE again

Um

Do you want the wave, or do you want nothing?

OK, I want the wave, just keep it coming, but pease stop scarng me, I did not know you could put me in a trance and I could feel such things from your control

Honey that is what I am here for, accept the wave, accept me, let me control your trance...



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A trance can not be controlled by the person who is under one. It is controlled by an outside source.



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stop tryinng to control me Jade,

if you don't try then you can control

just stop trying to control me and then you can control



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06:39:02 Dec 28 2006
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Meditation is an excellent way to start work on this idea. If you cannot quiet your mind, the work you look to do will not be as effective. Also look into centring your energy, as that will assist you with creating the proper space to work in.



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finding the right spot and meditaiton will do the trick make sure no disturbance..



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how is possible to see auras without being considered psychotic? if you would say this to a psychiatrist he may commit you. but i am gonna try the suggested methods here and see what i can discover, thanks much for the info



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I have to agree with BillytheJust. I think that it is an alter awareness that you are looking to control. and that happens with practice.



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A trance of trance like state is not something to be controlled. It is the act of being controlled by an outside force. To see an aura you do not have to be in a trance either. I see auras and I dont walk around all the time in a trance. Some people do however need a bit more to see what they are looking for, If you are in a light sleep state.. like the state in which you are falling asleep but you know you are still awake.. that could help, I myself can not be for certain on that though.



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as said well done you canot control trance is something in your gift, a magical experience enjoy it smiles :P



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controlling a trance totaly defeats the purpos. unless you want to look cool for someone else. let it go, let your trances be spontainous.



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fyrechyld
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why control it..... let it flow.



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Actually, I was wondering that myself recently, but I've come to the conclusion that it is impossible to control. It probably isn't impossible, but I don't know how to do it! =P



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if its not impossible it should be. controlling a trance is like controlling your dreams, wheres the fun in that?



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Give yourself a break; don't try to run a marathon before you train for a 5K. Begin with meditation techniques. There are bazillions, so if one doesn't work for you...keep looking.

Meditation is like the base of a pyramid...it can serve you in SO many ways, many of which are very practical, like concentration and focus...stress relief and health. It can also open doorways to greater disciplines.



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you need to practice....nothing comes to you right away....all things take time that are worth learning....



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Hm. It was mentioned here that in the trance state one is being lead by a spirit and so one cannot hope to gain control.

Really this statement depends upon what one means by the word "trance". Trances are most commonly associated with things like vision quests or the summoning of spirits into the body to allow them means to communicate in the physical realms. Some, however, associate the word "trance" to mean a meditative state or a very slightly altered state of mind. This state occurs when the brain produces a high alpha brainwave pattern.

This is the state where one may become attuned to subtle energies at a "surface" sort of level. This is where one may begin to see auras. All that's required here is the ability to take a step back consciously towards the subconscious. With practice this ability comes with ease.



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