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I hope this is the right section to post this discussion in, please forgive me if it’s not.
I replied to a post on a different website. It was someone in a spiritual group looking for a global issue to be resolved by a mass “focusing of energy”. I suggested the neutralization of nuclear warheads. I’ll be damned if they’re not actually attempting to make this thing fly. I’ve heard of focusing ones personal energy to accomplish greater tasks, but this idea is something entirely new to me.

I’m torn on this topic. On one hand I’m aware of energy exchange happening around me every day. Every living being interacting with others. On the other hand I feel this I’ll believe it when I see it attitude. With energy being the ultimate driving force of the universe, the only thing truly immortal. Could it possibly be manipulated in such a way to accomplish such a task?

I bring this discussion here because of the eclectic group of people that call this website home. Many of you have more knowledge of energy manipulation than me. I guess what type of discussion I’m looking for here is could this possibly be accomplished? What information do you have on the possibility of a combining of energy on a global scale to seemingly accomplish the impossible?



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focusing energy on a global scale is quite possible. it takes a global effort though. many people focusing energy at the same time towards the same goal. as for it working on "the neutralization of nuclear warheads" i unforunately doubt it would be possible to raise that much energy.



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Energy focus does have alot to do with how something works out.

The more positive energy is involve in the people in a cercumstance, the more positive the out come. the same is for the flop side, negative energy.

It is possible to raise the energy for such a purpose as you seek, the problem is the organization of such an undetaking.

To do such would take months, maybe even fears to plan right and rigure out all the nit picky details. But then again I only know small scale organization.



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interesting idea, logistics would be the prob;em



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Yeah logically it doesn't sit well with me.

I agree that it would take several months to plan. It appears that the group is planning this for New Years day. Talk about last minute. When I finally get the link I'll post it in here.



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it is less about force and magnitude of effort than consistency of purpose i have found in my experience

it is about the cyclical nature of time and energy, and the concept of abundance

when one is in the mind that fears of insufficiency of there being less, what is known as scarcity thinking

in the mind that fears of time and the universe being against one, being an adversary, of nature being something to be concquered rathered than seduced,embraced, loved, there are many machines, psychic machines, emotional and ideational machines that one installs within ones being, and sets into operation, that block energy that
the universe is continually fostering upon all its inhabitants, animate and inanimate alike, corporeal and non corporeal alike

it is i have found about creating health, balance and joy within oneself and then slowly self identifying with all

that health and joy by the law of correspondance instantantaenously manifests in the universe, as by ones self identification and resulting feeling of non seperation from all, the universe is in effect ones body, all are pieces of one, cells, tissues and organs of ones own body, and then ones life, the day as it unfolds is but a view of ones reality , something like scenes from the film inner space, the view of ones anatomy

to the extent that one is in harmony with oneself, and self identifies with all, all share in ones bliss and joy

it doesnt take much to set a fire
a spark usually does it

it is about apparently small things i have found, words, small kindnesses, restraint, a willingness to accept someone/thing rather than to deny, to include someone/thing rather than exclude from ones circle of what is relevant and significant, many mnay apparently small and unnoticed things go into running the universe i have found in my experience, all vital, all pivotal all significant

the work i have found not so much about changing things around us as much as attempting to change oneself

true compassion requires absolute self love and a feeling of non seperation from all

else it is forced and becomes some kind of morality, and moralities with time require force to keep themselves in place


if the matter in ones body changes, its correspondance in the universe too must change it is self evident and plain

to the extent that one feels seperateness from any aspect of being/existence/life proportionally is ones energy blocked, and needs to be forced and worked towards a particular end

when there is no other , then all that remains is bliss


i watched an interview the other day where richard gere was speaking with some students of acting, he said something to the effect that the most empowering thing that he does for himself is affirming that the universe is trying always to help him, that always it is aiding and enabling ones growth and evolution, that it is on ones side

it seems simple and self evident enough though its implications are infinitely relevant and provides one with a link to a means to resolution to this matter of alienation and seperation that seems to plague many if not most in these times and perhaps has always pagued man

butterfly wings and tidal storms

all it takes i have found in my experience is an intention and a willingness to change , to evolve



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I'd be all for it... I think it would be a great idea which might help bring a stronger bond between people globally.

However, the goal stated... abolishing nukes... might be a little too lofty. Regardless of the energy gathered to accomplish that goal, consider the magnitude of the opposite energy in the form of mass stupidity you would be trying to overcome.

Start small, like... a mass effort to have a pizza delivered to my house. :)



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LOL Birra, are you always thinking of food?

I agree though, try on a smaller more local scale. Groups claim all the time to be able to focus energy to heal a member or get something done. On your topic you could try to have say one warhead focused on as a start by a group of people local to you.



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that would deffinately be a good start. one might also focus to change the popular views on nuclear usage



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A local scale & start small would work. Start with those around you that would be interested in your idea & keep it going. You never can tell what happen when you get a group together with the same goals in mind....



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This kind of focus has already been proven to work. Thought will create form, it is an Universal truth. It was also what the Akashic records was all about. They were nothing but thought forms and past actions that were created in the past. Since the records are no longer there, the Golden grid replaced them, new thoughts/actions created by us are being created and manifested faster because of it.
I have mention before of what happen a year after the 9/11 attacks on NYC. A year later, on the day, the NY lotto number came out to be 911. There was so much thought being created on that day - for that day- that people manifest it.
A few years ago, for a second example, monks went to the Boston police and told them that they were going to pray for peace in the city. The word from the Chief of police was basically go ahead what do I care. But later that week when the stats came back with the lowest crime rate ever in the history of Boston, he now believes something may be said about praying for peace.
This idea for peace has been around for some time. It is only now being recognized by the West. We are sooo much stronger and greater beings than we allow ourselves to be.
Thought will create form.



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Both examples though can be summed up by coincidence.

People pray for things all the time... there's always a chance it can happen.

Perhaps the crame rate in Boston went down because all the gulible, easy victims were off the streets praying....

....or the Monks weren't out committing crimes?



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BillytheJust
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Many people live in ignorance.
The law I speak of is called: "The Law of Attraction." It is fact.

One of the greatest thing you and everyone on this site can do for themselves is watch the DVD called:
"The Secret." I Highly recommend it.



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Focusing energy on a global scale is indeed possible. Just ask anyone who goes to church on a Sunday if God exists. The most powerful of thoughtforms is created from the minds of the many, so it would indeed be powerful. Here is where my biggest skepticism would occur:

If one is to focus the group mind towards making something happen, there has to be an overall guide for all of the participants to follow. Just because you *say* you are focusing the group mind towards a goal doesn't mean that everybody is focusing on the exact same goal.

Stray thoughts... how are these accounted for? As our thoughts stray, our intention becomes muddied and is less clear and less strong.

For a global energy working to succeed, it would require a structure for all to follow, even if not done at the exact precise moment. There has to be a focal point, some place for the energy to gather and work its way through to the heart of the matter, so someone or something would need to serve in this capacity. Or perhaps a central core group.

So, yes, it's possible. Whether it succeeds and the degree of success is highly up to question.



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This is the visualation that the person who has started this has given everybody:



THE VISUALIZATION


If the approach of one ness with others is a difficult concept. Here is a more personal approach. In your minds eye. See a missile as one would appear to you. Consciously let this be a symbol for all nuclear missiles. See the radio activity as a soft greenish fog glowing and surrounding it. Then observe a force that is white or any other color - except green - come into and upon the missile displacing all the green radio active elements, sucking the green from the missile, consuming it and then raising itself out of your field of vision. This the combined force of us all materializing in your vision as the "cleansing energy." What is left is a sterile missle. No longer a nuclear missile. Still hurts. Still causes damage, just not globally. The little ones can still fight in the sandbox. - blessings - chrism


From what I can tell they haven't picked a particular moment in time for this to happen, just tomorrow in general. I still believe if it indeed works, that it would be more likely to work if:
1. There was more time involved in the planning of this to get more people/energy involved
2. They had picked a particular moment in time for everyone to focus their energy, especially for a task as great as this.
Ultimately I'll will just have to see what comes of it all.


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i am not sure if it would work because of the amount of energy that would be required..



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Even if the energy is enough to solve the problems of the world, wouldn't be hard to get people to agree on the same thing. In addition, how would people that do not have access to the internet and cable tv, know what to pray for and when?



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that much energy comeing for the amount of people you would need to do such a thing could quite possibley kill someone.



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I very much doubt that there would be enough energy available to neutralize any type of nuclear event including not only warheads but power plants as well. That is a vast amount of energy.



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I feel that while possible in the sense of "IT is possible for the world to focus its energy on a common goal" I think it impossible the population of the world to get along long enough to acomplish this.



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wow wonder what could be done if every one did focuse there energy wild thought



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When one person focuses thier energy it is quite a powerful thing. When a group focuses their energy it is unbelieveable. The sum if the parts is much greater than the whole, the synergy is incredible.



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You raise another good point "Razorsmall". Do you think it would be possible for enough people to cooperate long enough to accomplish this goal? I don't think that would happen.



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>>wow wonder what could be done if every one did focuse there energy wild thought

When a large amount of people focus their thoughts, gods are born and destroyed, countries are formed and obliterated.



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but what would people fouces all there energy on?....some stuff just has to be the way it is



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Truthfully, Yes I do think it is very possible. I've seen mind blowing amazing things happen when a group of ten people focused their energy on something so I can imagine millions even if it was just thousands I'm sure something magnificent would occur. As much as I think it is possible I also know it is impossible now of days to get that many people united and to focus their energy at once. The things we could possibly do would be remarkable if we could join together.



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I'm going to have to be one of the naysayers on this subject. I believe energy can be focused and/or channeled. I also believe there are limits to what can be achieved with this manipulation.



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I have seen many websites such as the one you describe. It is possible, BUT the likelihood of it working as well as they want is slim to void. Energy does focal around everything, but think of it this way.. These groups that attempt this world changes.... Have they stopped things from truley happening? Have the cured all the ill in the world? Do we still have troops over seas? I mean yes they may be able to improve something a small amount but they are not a god or goddess that can totally change the way things are. In a way they almost challenge the balance of the world so to say. If these things were not meant to happen (although I dont like that they do) Then they would not happen. Healing and what not is possible, and mind over matter is possible, BUT if everyone of these people sit together and do this energy transfer at the same time everyday and do not cleanse themselves first, their energy is not really going to be that helpful.... In my head when I think of how this would work I picture this HUGE energy ball in the center of the globe in the sky, which makes me giggle because it is in cartoon form. Mind you this is all simply my opinion, and I could totally be wrong, but it is how I feel on the subject. :)



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well i think if there is enough people focusing at the same time its very possible. but disarming warheads i think will need more than a little planning



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You know Tony Perkins created the Super Duper Prayer Group or the FRC Prayer Team that is supposed to bring thousands of people together to pray for things like right wing judges and for the November elections to go for Republicans...It apparently only works sometimes :)

On a more scientific level, there was a study done wherein patients about to go in for surgery were either told they'd be prayed for or not and then of those that were told they'd be prayed for, only some of them were. The results were that those who thought they were being prayed for had an actual slower recovery. They evidently were stressed that someone was rooting for them and in an effort to meet those hopes, that stress slowed their recovery.

My point is that while there have been attempts to get everyone together to pray or meditate on something positive, it has yet to be shown to have any affect beyond the psychological.



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i saw on the scifi channel a guy stood behind a curtain and moved a line of like 15 or 20 people with his mind. while behind the curtain he also knocked out a man.

im sure if you get enough people together that can control energy like this guy did, then anything is possible



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I get the image of all those penguins watching the plane fly. Fly above them, and behind them. All penguins fall on their backs.

One would have to start with the idea that thought can indeed affect matter. That would predetermine that thought is more than the electrical currents in our brain. Step by step logic will fail this more and more.
Try gathering a hundred people. Make them all watch the coin and think that it must move one specific direction.
Now, if it doesn't work, place the blame on "someone didn't think hard enaugh".



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just think of what we could if just everyone on this site focused there energy let alone the world.



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I belong to an antiwar group
we always end our meetings by saying "Bring Them Home"

we love all our troops and want them home now.

unfortunately it doesnt seem to be working



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I can't really say either way whether or not something like that would work...

I would see the biggest problem being actually getting people to do it. A lot of people are quick to say "Great idea! Count me in!", but how many actually do it when the time comes?

I suppose that theoretically it could be possible. If you could actually raise that much energy...but I have to say that what it would actually accomplish may be iffy at best.



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It is possible... But would take a huge global effort.



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Yes I think it's possible! Mind over matter kinda thing! All people involved would need to have no doubt that it would work, but as others have said I would start small! If nothing else starting out small & letting the group see what they could do would cause them to have more faith in themselves & things would work better on a larger scale! I have wondered often how it would be to have alot of people that manipulate energy at the same place!



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Kytrin
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check out Violet Flame



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interesting post thanks for sharing this.and yes i agree ,this mass of energy could be done effectively.



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it has been said that most things in this world get accomplished by a handful of people committed. so be it mental energy or physical energy.. where there is a desire, the way will be created.



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