This is a repost because I am not where the other one went.
I was told a story once and I’m not sure if the person telling me this just made it up or not. It was about a creature named Jackal, supposedly the first werewolf and the son of Satan. Jackal was sent by Satan to destroy the vampires because he feared their power.
Now my question is, as anyone else heard this story? And if anyone has does it hold any weight as far as vampire or lycan legends?
Is this it.
A Tale About a Jackal
A jackal once got a thorn in his paw. "Oh, oh!" he cried as he walked along the path in the forest. "What shall I do, what shall I do?" Then he met an old woman: "Please, dear grannie," he said, "pull the thorn out of my paw." The old woman pulled it out, the jackal thanked her and went away. But in a minute he came back and asked: "Where is my thorn, grannie?"
"I do not know," answered the old woman. "Who needs a thorn?"
Then the jackal began to cry: "Oh, where is my thorn?" he cried. "I need it, I need it very much!"
the old woman was sorry for the jackal and said: "Do not cry. Here is an egg for you."
The jackal took the egg and ran away with it. He came to a village and knocked at the door of the first house. A man opened it.
"Please, my good man," said the jackal, "may I stay the night with you? It is late and cold."
"Please come in," answered the man.
The jackal came in. "May I put my egg on this plate?" he asked.
"Yes, of course you may."
In the night the jackal got up, ate the egg and put the shell back on the plate.
In the morning the jackal asked the man: "Where is my egg?"
"I do not know," was the answer. Then the jackal began to cry: "Oh, my big, big egg!" he said, "Your cat ate it in the night. I am sure!"
The man was sorry for the jackal and gave him a hen instead of the egg. The jackal took the hen and ran away with it.
He ran and ran and came to the next village in the evening. There he knocked at the first door and asked the woman who opened the door: "May I stay the night with you, please? It is so cold outside!"
"Please, come in little jackal," said the woman.
"And where can I put my hen?" the jackal asked.
"Let the hen stay with our goat," the woman said.
In the night the jackal got up, went to the place where the goat was and ate up the hen. In the morning he said to the woman he said to the woman: "Let us go and get my hen."
But there was no hen, of course, there were only feathers and bones on the ground. The jackal began to cry: "Oh, my hen, my beautiful gray hen! Your goat ate it in the night!"
The woman was sorry for the jackal and gave him one of the goat's kids instead of the hen. The jackal thanked the woman and ran away. He ran and ran and he came to another village. It was almost evening and he knocked at the first house. "May I stay the night in your house?" he asked the man who opened the door. "I am very, very tired."
"Please, come in," the man said.
"Where may I put my little kid?" the jackal asked.
"Tie it to the end of my son's bed," the man said.
At night the jackal ate the kid and put its bones on the boy's bed.
In the morning he asked the man: "Where is my little kid?" They went up to the boy's bed, but there were only horns and bones there instead of the kid.
"Oh, my little kid, my dear little kid!" Your son ate it in the night, I am sure," said the jackal and began to cry. The man said do not cry. I shall give you a big goat instead of your little kid."
"No, no, I do not want the goat! Give me your son!"
"Alright, go out and wait a little at the door," said the man.
Then the man brought him a big bag and said: "Here is the boy. He is in the bag. Goodbye!"
The jackal took the bag and went away quickly. He tried to run, but he could not, the bag was very heavy.
"This is a very big boy," the jackal thought. "Or perhaps it is not a boy. Perhaps the man put stones into the bag! I shall open it and see."
He opened the bag and two big dogs jumped out of it! In a minute they tore the jackal to pieces.
cadrewolf,
I know its a pain but you must quote your sources if you cut and paste anything into the forums, not doing so can get a thread removed
Your source seems to be
http://www.africawithin.com/tour/ghana/jackal.htm
Soory did not know here:
A Tale About a JackalA Tale About a Jackal. A jackal once got a thorn in his paw. "Oh, oh!" he cried as he walked along the path in the forest. "What shall I do, what shall I do ...
www.africawithin.com/tour/ghana/jackal.htm -
Cadre: I enjoyed that story the writer made it compelling reading, it was so well written that it kept your attention the entire way through :)
What a cute story! I have never heard that one! Any ways, I seem to recall something about the Jackal being cursed to a life of thievery. So the story does has the implications! The Jackal doesn't have a pretty past. They have been referenced in movies, and not nicely I might add. On a lighter note the Anubis is the head of a Jackal.
I haven't heard the story before, either. I also wonder if there is an Anubis connection, and if so, what the "devil's" name may be in the tale. Satan is a name originating with Judaism.
Yes, your story seems to carry some weight. I haven't heard it before, but I may look to see if I can find it. It would make sense that The devil would send his son to destroy the vampires, as vampires are a force to be reckoned with.
well to add how is anubies " the Jackal" related to werewolves. i guess is my question
LoveInfusedWithDeath,
I agree the idea is good.
If, as some on here will say, vampires are fallen angels. Satan was also a fallen angel and would be a little worried of people who may have similar powers
Nice story. It was a treat to read. I'd also like to know if there could be a connection between them, werewolves and Anubis.
thats all i belive it to be, a story i dont belive that he was went to exterminate the vampires if so he did a right good job at it
That was a really good story it is interesting to see the different types of myths that come from so many different countries
I don't see a connection between that story and werewolves but anubis is the god of the dead or rules the underworld according to egyptian mythology and the devil is represented by the jackal but I still fail to see any connections to the original question
It was just that the good folk at werewolf.com were trying to argue a point that werewolves were somehow connected with Anubis - it a hot topic there though, its rather like arguing Vlad on this forum :)
They're trying to also make the connection to Anubis on the basis that the adopted sign of the modern werewolf is the eygptian Ankh. Again, this isn't my thinking juyst the only connection I can find between anything Jackal and a werewolf
Can I just point out to anyone who reads this, that the story posted above, is NOT the one that we're talking about
The story above was kindly provided by cadrewolf in an attempt to answer the question but has since been ruled out by BloodAngelX the thread owner.
Here is something I've found
* Anubis *
Anubis is the jackal-headed Egyptian god of the underworld, the judge of the dead. Sometimes known as the Great Dog, Anubis was mated to Nepthys, the underworld goddess Isis. Dogs were greatly revered in aceint Egypt, and Anubis had a place of great honor in the pantheon of gods.
For Christians in the Middle Ages, images of Anubis reinforced folk legends of werejackals that attacked unwary desert travelers. While some ancient cults saw Anubis as a conduit for healing, others believed the priests with their dog~headed masks were assuming the pagan god's role as judge of the underworld and were stealing the souls of those hapless victims that they only pretended to cure.
I haven't heard the story before, either. I also wonder if there is an Anubis connection, and if so, what the "devil's" name may be in the tale. Satan is a name originating with Judaism.
I have not heard that story but it may be true all things need to originate from somewhere or something
Nice one Lonewolf2000, I didn't know there were werejackals
There are a lot of rpg sites that mention them but I have manged to find a few records of them in Indian mythology sites.
Could it be that werejackals came before werewolves ?
ive never heard of that tale before but im familiar with this creature. it looks similar with the egyptian anubis.. it's like a dog with pointed ears and it looks very scary. there is a jackal in the movie 'the omen'.
but anyway, why would we stereotype this animals just like the unluckiness of black cats..
I had been looking in regards to yer question.Did not find anything, but then doesn't mean tis not true.
I did find some info. on Anubis.I hope this helps in some way.
Anubis
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/a/anubis.html
by Stephanie Cass
Anubis, who the ancient Egyptians called Ienpw (phonetically "Yinepu"), is the mysterious canid funerary deity of ancient Egypt. Even the meaning of his name is unknown -- speculations range from "Royal Child" to having derived from the world for "to putrefy". Both certainly fit the deity, who was at various points in time of Egyptian history known as the lord of the dead before Osiris and, later, became popularly known as the son of Osiris.
Just what type of animal Anubis is represented by is unknown as well; definitely canid and most likely a jackal or a wild dog -- or a hybrid of both -- but, as in the case of Seth, with alterations that deliberately smudge the lines of reality. The deep black color Anubis's animal is not reflective of its actual coat but is instead symbolic of his position as a funerary deity. The reason for Anubis's animal being canid is based on what the ancient Egyptians themselves observed of the creature -- dogs and jackals often haunted the edges of the desert, especially the cemeteries where the dead were buried.
Anubis is an extremely ancient deity. The oldest mastabas of the Old Kingdom have prayers to him carved into their walls, and he is mentioned in the Pyramid Texts in his most celebrated role as a guardian and protector of the dead. A standard offering formula for the dead in the Old Kingdom began thusly:
"An offering which the king gives and Anubis, who is upon his mountain and in the place of embalming, the lord of the necropolis...."
As mentioned previously, Anubis began in the position that Osiris would later command. In the earliest period of Egyptian religion Anubis was clearly the lord of the dead and Osiris the embalmed god while Anubis performed the act of embalming. Titles that were invested unto Osiris -- such as Khenty-Imentiu or "Foremost of Westerners" -- were originally Anubis's. As the drama of Osiris's death and vindication unfolded over the centuries, Anubis assumed the role of the guide who holds steady the scales on which their hearts are measured against the feather of ma'at as "He Who Counts the Hearts". Should the heart be light as the feather, the soul would then be lead by Anubis (or, in some cases, Harseisis) to be presented to Osiris. Should the heart be heavy, it is fed to Ammit and the soul destroyed.
As Imy-ut, or "He Who is In the Place of Embalming", Anubis is the embalmer who washes the entrails of the dead and guards over their physical bodies as well as the places that house them (the tomb and the necropolis). Priests wearing a mask of Anubis were responsible for the Opening of the Mouth ceremony that reawakened a dead person's senses. In a reflection of the royal seal used on the tombs of the Valley of the Kings depicting pharaoh's victory over the "nine bows" (enemies of Egypt), Anubis is shown recumbent over nine bows meant to be hostile forces of the Underworld who he -- as "Jackal Ruler of the Bows" -- has triumphed over.
Anubis's parentage is a mystery -- in one tradition he is the son of Nebt-het (Nephthys) and Ra. In yet another, from the Coffin Text period, the cow goddess Hesat is his mother and, from the same source, Bastet is even accounted as his mother (most likely a pun on the ointment jars that comprise her hieroglyphs -- the same jars that were used during the embalming process Anubis was lord of). The Pyramid Texts even supply Anubis with a daughter in the form of the goddess Qeb-hwt ("Cooling Water") -- a celestial serpent or ostrich Who purifies and quenches the monarch.
Anubis is depicted most often as a man with the head of a black canid with alert, pointed ears. He is also represented by a full black canid wearing ribbons and holding a flagellum in the crook of its arm. Very rarely is he ever shown fully human, though there are some cases (such as in the temple of Ramesses II of Abydos) of this. Perhaps the most famous representation of Anubis, the gold-gilded wooden canid found in the tomb of Tutankhamen, was doubtlessly placed there as a protector of the dead and guardian of the tomb.
Anubis was worshipped throughout Egypt, but the center of his cult was in Cynopolis (Upper Egypt).
Well if we assume that the Jackal is Anubis, the god of the dead, would he not rule over the vampires seeing as they are for the most part, dead?
also a bit of trivia, The antichrists true mother was a jackal in the omen
And! I just found out don't know whether it would help but Jackals are known to hang around tombs and graves
One of the functions of Anubis included: Anubis monitored the Scales of Truth to protect the dead from deception and eternal death.
Also Anubis' mother Nephthys displayed horns on her head dress and her symbols were: kite, crow, bones and skulls
http://www.egyptianmyths.net/anubis.htm
the jackal is more associated with ghouls rather than werewolves, as they tend to lurk around graveyards, and feed off carrion. as they are noted for being grave robbers, it is hardly surprising that anubis is a favourite amongst archaeologists and treasure hunters. i have never before heard of them being associated with werewolves. a jackal is not a wolf, and as i said - they feed off carrion, and rarely hunt live prey.
there is no tradition of war between werewolves and vampires - the earliest i have come across this is in an old abbott and costello movie.
I have not heard the story that the thread was fisrt started on but i has heard the second story that was tols. My gradfather told us when we were little