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I've heard of people being able to use glamour spells to change and alter their appearance. Blond hair to black. Brown eyes to blue. Higher cheekbones. Etc. No chemicals or anything. Just hard concentration and a few words.

Is it an illusion? Can it even be done?

I've heard stories that elves and other fey taught this art to covens.

Are they just stories or are there facts to these legends?

Does anyone have a personal account or experience with such deep magick?

if anyone had that kind of illusion power they would be incredibly strong, i would need to see a demonstration before i'd believe something like that was possible.

I have heard of eye colour being changed but it is so rare as the concentration required is unbelievable.
I think glamour spells tend to be more 'mind' focused e.g changing people's perception of you, making them see the attractive attributes rather than literally being able to change physical features.

I dont know. Anything that is imaginable is possible.

But the concentration level required for this to occur would be astornomical. And the amount of energy it takes to do such a thing would be unheard of.

An eaiser way to become more attractive would be a simple spell that will enhances peoples perception of you. Also, its all about a mindset. If you dont feel beautiful or glamorous, chances are you wont be.

I'm sorry, this one's a legend. It was made really popular by the Ironside trilogy

Mass Hypnotist or distant hypnotist can do this easily if he or she wish to pattern this subject over you.

see controlling self's pigment is very difficult and no one would like to do this.

You know what they say, "If you can't make it, fake it"

I wouldn't know about casting a glamour spell to instantly be the next Covergirl..but hey...there are other things...like Loreal...;)

However, the search for rejuvenation of the skin and overall appearance of health and beauty goes way back. I have found in my own experience, that stress and not taking care of one's self is unfortunately written on your face and elsewhere within the body...however, there are a lot of things overall that can contribute to appearing healthier and more attractive on a beauty note...;)

Eat healthy...stay away from high fructose corn syrup (your triglycerides will explode through the roof..not to mention it turns of the chemical synapse in your brain that says.."STOP..YOUR STOMACH IS ABOUT TO BUST!!!!), Corn (think about it...it's what farmers feed the pigs to fatten 'em up), MSG (monosodium glutamate-it's in everything), backing off the gluten (wheat-derived chemical to make breads light and fluffy..also used as preservative and can be found in anything, including a package of shelled sunflower seeds)...in other words, don't fill up on bread alone....and finally...watch the Sodium...ever check to see a label on your favorite pizza to only find you're consuming a salt block? Mmmmmooooooooo!!!!!

Exercise is also a must...even small increments can help anyone at any level....but one thing most of us overlook, including myself...'cause I get busy too...is meditation.

Meditation can be implemented as a form of glamour spell in self-affirmation. When you focus your own energy inwardly to work on rejuvenating the body at a cellular level...this does work...it is also referred to in other ancient writings as "quickening the flesh." However, just like eating right and daily exercise...if you don't make it a part of daily life, you're not likely to see the results of that meditative focus.

It's all in how you put it out there by first being positive about yourself to begin with....sometimes that's a hard mindset to obtain...but it's not impossible.

Sorry, guys and girls, as a practicing Wiccan of over 20 years - I have to tell you this is NOT true. Only in the movies.

The types of "glamours" that can be made are very different. First, you can do a glamour that makes you "invisible" not actually invisible but more like you are heading down the road and ran a red light and theres a cop and boy, I don't want him to notice me...You don't see me type deal.

The other kinds of "glamours" are more like changing the color of your aura so as to change the perception of how people see you. Say you are going to a club and you want to be noticed as energetic and fun, you may manipulate your aura to appear red or orange.

Any questions about this - message me, be happy to help.

I have a feeling it's real... I've seen someone do it... They were some nice looking guy... but then he used glamor, and he got beautiful in a matter of seconds...

I wish I new how to do this...

Vampirella...the best way to bring out the beauty you desire to be..is to love what you see on the inside...it is the wellspring of your spiritual beauty that can be brought forth to shine upon your physical countenance...movie glamours are simply that...movie glamours...but to self-affirm your positives will eventually outshine your negatives and that is how real beauty is defined...it is the outward expression of your heart of hearts.

Just wanted to point out that some peoples eyes just change colors naturally. I don't think this is done by glamour but by a persons physiology really. This hole thing of unnaturally changing your body structure without breaking bones, having surgery, or both sounds completely absurd.

Just my personal opinion,
LoW~

I do love these people who basically say ' I have never seen it -so it is a lie'
No it is not a lie, it does occur for those with the right qualifications, which believe me are few and far between.
1.This is normally during a genuine act of love/enticment
2.It is an close up personal thing
3. The Iris changes gradually the witch is not always aware they have entered this mental state
4.The eye can actually glow
The brain makes up 10 perecnt of everyday vision, it interprets what the eye sends. This-is just external interference.

Could it not be counted as a form of shapeshifting? Like a werewolf or skinwalking. In skinwalking you can meditate, astral project, and take over an animal or insect. Could that be what the legends talk about? A more advanced way to skinwalk? (Not crossing into possession with human skinwalking by the way.)

Also, it's not just about eyes this thread is talking about. But changing hair color and length, skin pigment, height, weight, etc.

Guys.... hypnosis is alive and well,
and while over time you could convince someone that you were beautiful even if you're not, you dont want the kind of retribution that comes along with deceit like that. At least... you shouldn't.

Mmm yes hypnosis, a backward version of a form far easier to perform. The splitting of the conciousness at a fundamental level, yet this needs no props only a 'lighthouse' mind.

I dunno, a couple of drinks can sometimes transform people into beauties j/k ;)

Admittedly, I have never seen it, so I remain skeptical. But I'm not closed to the possibilities. I know my eyes change colour, usually when I am extremely angry or happy - but I have never tested it to see if they change through concentration or in ritual/meditation etc.

I guess it's like making yourself invisible to others, many of us can do that, especially if we don't want to be seen. (Ever had someone jump with a fright when they suddenly notice you?) *chuckle*

It takes concentration, and visualisation but doesn't always work. But it's not hypnosis - unless I am getting REALLY good and am able to do it with my mind now ! In that case - WOOHOO! lol

S

I know that people can make others believe this by way of the internet..One can portray theirself as someone who is very beautiful through pictures or things they write.When in fact the person behind the portrayal is ugly,dirty and in no way leads any kind of life that would be considered glamorous.

If you're looking for spells i'd try puzuzu.com

Many people believe that when someone speaks of Glamour, they think of spells or some sort of magickal ability that can change the way a person looks, in essence, much like how they have portrayed it in movies. One of the more prominent references that I know of is in the movie "The Craft", where Fairuza Balk uses her power to transform her appearance so that she looks like Robin Tunney, all for the purpose of tricking a drunk Skeet Ulrich into making out with her, and possibly more, just because he dumped Robin Tunney's character.

Now while many believe that this type of Glamour is merely talk and that it is not possible, and in all truth, they would be right to a certain degree. There is no documented occasion of what I will call "proper" Glamour, it is not entirely impossible. As science would dictate, the average person uses between 10 and 30 percent of there mental capabilities. While this may not seem important, if we were able to use a higher percentage, the possibility to do something like Glamour is not that far out of the realm of plausibility.

Some have theorised that mass hypnosis is one way, but to be able to do this, 100% of the time with each and every person that lays on them is very unlikely and extremely difficult to do even in a controlled environment. There is evidence that only 15 percent of adults are very susceptible to hypnosis, and roughly 10 percent are either extremely difficult or impossible to hypnotise. Knowing this, hypnosis on the masses to isn't very reliable and likely to fail at times when you want it to work.

Knowing all of this, we only have the stories and legends to go off of, and while we cannot go back and watch first hand, we can infer that the creatures that used Glamour had either the immeasurable concentration and inert physical ability to alter their appearance or they knew of techniques and possibly used magicks that we have yet to discover the existence of evidence. In any case, Glamour is something that comes in many forms from the natural abilities to influence others to believe certain things about your appearance to the humble use of make up to improve the flaws that we see in ourselves. As far as the traditions say of Glamour, who knows who may have the mental and inert physical capabilities to actually do what they shown in the movies? We may know the people who can do it and just don't know it because they are that good. What do you think?

The glamour might exist,but If you think about It In more 0f a way as telepathy I think you would be more on track.I've used telepathy to get past growling dogs that no one could past without getting attack.And on police officials too.I used It on a cop 1 time to get out of a speeding ticket by focusing on him before he got to my car.By the time he to my car he forgot why he even pulled me over.By using telepathy,we altered the person or animal mind that's being used on In such a way as they think It's their doing.But more on that later have to get up In 6 hrs to go to the unemployment office,so I'm off to sleep.

DS, I see the point you're trying to make, but for this subject, I think a better word instead of telepathy, which mainly deals with mental communication or some form of "Mind Reading". If you asked me, what happened with the animals and the officer was more mentalism, where you make psychic suggestions or lightly force a mental choice or thought. But you make a good point. Some people who have mastered this may be able to influence you for a purpose such as the one in your case and thus may be able to make themselves look different by psychically changing or forcing your perception of them.

Wow, your off on the Glamour. It doesn't change your physical body, rather it changes what people see of it. It works by actually in a way controlling the light reaching their eyes, bending it and shaping it using pranic energy so that they see what you have pictured in your mind, as long as it's not something like making yourself look like a duck or something, even glamour can't do that.

for example, i commonly change my eye color from dark blue to a light green. to do that i change what color of light the other person see's reflected from my eye. since every object that isn't black puts reflects or makes light containing every color in different quantities, all you really do is block every color except what you want them to see. to seem like you have higher cheekbones, you bend and refract the light to make an illusion to where it seems like your cheekbones are higher on your face, but this is actually harder to do believably.

As I posted under the forum thread "Telepathy" it has been proven time and time again twinned photons(light) are linked and can be manipulated at vast distances. Whether photons are moved to alter appearance? I doubt this and have personal experience the subject must be up close.
Direct eye contact and manipualtion of photons or other dark energy enertering the brain is the most likely candidate.
Either way its rather awesome don't you think?

Ive tried the glamour to change eye colour several times with coloured candles, only once did I see a change and to this day I believe my mind played a trick on myself, Brown to green? The key is too believe it is happening, lasted a few seconds maybe 2.

Well its roots are more generic really. As time passes some words mean other things to people in socialized groupings. But...

Glamoury

"Spellcraft." A Scottish derivative of the Old French "gramaire," probably through the form "gramaire." See "gramarye," "grammar" and "glamour."

Originally, "glamorous" meant "magical" in the Scottish dialect.

"To Use Charm or Magic Power to Influence Others."

http://etymologicon.com/g.html

I've only heard of that kind of stuff in fictitious books and movies. Personally, I don't believe it's possible to actually physically alter your appearance without surgery, chemicals, etc. and I'll believe that until I'm shown proof...but I do believe it's possible to make people perceive you as looking different.

Wow, I love the responses!

Alot to think about!

I'm actually agreeing with the idea of "compulsion"; making someone think something or make them do something you want.

Well, bloodmother, I agree with you. Some of the responses are actually quite good and well thought out. Compulsion, as you put it, seems to be the most likely candidate for this discussion. While not outside the realms of plausibility, it may still be difficult for individuals to learn to do without a reasonable amount of dedication and practice to the skill, even if they are born with a natural gift or susceptibility to this ability. If I may discuss this particular subject, I would like to point out that compulsion is more like psychic hinting for someone to "remember" what you intend them to see, rather than actual in-the-moment, immediate perception of what they see. To clarify, to compel someone to perceive something in a manner that you wish, I understand this subject as "telepathically" or "psychically" or even subliminally hinting, for lack of a well phrase, for someone to recall what they perceive differently than if they hadn't been compelled. While some may disagree with me, I have a theory that compulsion is merely psychic urging with the intent to "make" someone do or recall something that is mildly askew of what happened from an uninfluenced perspective. This can be seen in numerous books, and though my example source is fictitious in nature, including, but not limited to the Anita Blake series by Laurel K Hamilton. The "glare" or "leer" that some can perform can "compel" people to either come to the one who bespelled them or even completely forget or recall a time and place in a different light, meaning they may have "falsified memory". This is merely my view on compulsion, but I am open to hear and other theories on the subject and may be willing to change my standing point if convinced.

Why not just try more natural magicks?

I can do that, but only with the power of wigs and makeup. I wish I had that power. I have had undisputed post-cognitive moments, but nothing that can alter the shape of the physical world. I'm sure there are those with this ability, but I don't know if I ever met anyone.

Glamour spells are a load of nonsense born from hollywood and tv, this is not Charmed you know

I have to agree. If you want to change something in your appearance, do the effort, involved. Want to lose weight? Do the work. Better face appearance? Do the work.

Charmed is where I first heard of them too. I can't say for certain one way or the other that I believe in it, but it would be pretty sweet if it could be done. I have seen some rather interesting things happen in my life and I'm not even 30.

Tell me what to do I wish I could be glamorous :( I wonder if fashion mags have heard of this :p

Latest Dna tests reveal we are all X Men, up to 20 mutations in every soul. Of course some mutations are benign but some are likely to cause strange abilities. You may have read about folks whose brains record every detail of every day, a fine example, or those whose skin is like elastic.
A recent study of certain proteins in the eyes/ brains of all animals show how the sense manetic fields.
This link shows the connection between navigation in flies and other species and that of humans.
Only a fool would believe some humans do not have other abilities...just saying..

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-13809144

I've seen those reports as well. No magick should never be used for that which might be considered quite vain.

Once again, the lines between science and magic become blurred. Sometimes it gets a little scary, don't you think?

I agree it does become rather frightening, especially when used for personal purposes which create no balance whatsoever

The way to do these sort of spells is to do it via energy magic - changes in the energy system. when people "see" you they don't just "see" you - they see/hear/smell/taste/feel/sense you all at the same time.

A glamour goes to the sixth sense system of "sensing" you and if you make that strong enough, the information from that system overrides/overwhelms the visual information, or at least distorts it to the point where someone won't be able to say if a person had blue eyes, brown, or green, just that they had "bright eyes." for example.

A good way to practice stuff like that is to imagine you're wearing for example a shining crown on your head, make it real so you can feel it, and observe how people around you respond to your change in state.

That kind of reminds me of the perception filter from Doctor Who. You can know the person is there, but as long as the filter is up, you just don't notice them. Kind'a like a stranger on a busy street. To control perception is to control just about everything about a person.

Yes that's exactly right. And practising "invisibility" is a good beginner's glamour spell type thing.

I use a pattern called Riversmooth. You evoke a sphere around you that is flowing outside and clear from the inside. So rather than reflect things, it just carries them away, like if you throw a twig into a river.

It is very cool when it first starts to work and opens the door for other things in the glamour division.


"When I meet someone I like, I sleep with them. Of course, I have to hypnotize them first, on account of being so old, and warty!"

I know from experience that glamour spells (certain ones) don't work. I have tried to no avail to change my eye color it never works LOL. But The only glamour spells that do work are ones where you focus on making yourself appear more beautiful to yourself. I think. lol But yeah I need a spell book I am still a novice at spellcraft haha

Glamor spells I have never tried. Like my eyes which are hazel change color within themselves. I find my self pretty enough outside as well as inside. i don't want anyone to see me different for i am pretty the way i am. I won't even try a Glamor spell I won't do a love spell. All other are good tho.

A friend of mine changed hers. She had to REALLY believe they were blue. It took 3 years, but they are changing slowly.

OK,I have been a witch for Over 30 some years and I can tell you Glamour magic is not REAL , its a myth brought into light by a movie called the CRAFT! again Glamour magic IS not Real.

Greetings my Lady, then if it is not called that? then what is the eye change?
Its technical name amongst you witches, that which starts n the eyes and then comes through "the self" like an image from a parralel universe? what would you call this change in energy state if not glamour?

Glamour spells are perfectly real. But I'd say they are glamours, perception benders, like a hypnotist makes people "see and hear and feel and smell" an elephant in the room when there isn't an elephant.

They don't change physical reality, at least not drastically.

I have heard tell that it is possible to hypnotically make breasts larger and such; I can stretch to that to a degree.

But the whole point of a *glamour* spell is to have people experience something that is not there, or other than it would appear if there was no glamour in action.

And that's doable, easy even, and gets better with practice.

In all my years as a pagan I've never heard of one working. Why not ask for divine advice and guides on how to improve your appearance? There are things about myself that need changing, but I would do it through magick and effort. And I would not use the tern glamour. I'd call it steps to a new realisation.

Glamour spells are not just about appearance, and really only in the hands of teenagers about looking pretty.

They can be about not being seen, or seen to be standing out. About being less or more threatening than you actually are. Generally about showing what you want in a given situation.

For example, I'm female and the other day I was in a place that had recently been forced to allow females onto the premises because of anti-discrimination laws. A very female-unfriendly environment. Using a glamour to shift across to being much less female and more neutral caused people to treat me better and I actually got served, politely even.

There are a thousand and one uses for glamours and there are a lot of people out there who use them naturally and instinctively without even knowing their doing it.

I don't think that would be classically described as a glamour spell though. There are ways you can convert negative energies into positive and use them for an advantage of the good

I, personally believe anything is possible.

I have however increased my bust size before with a manifesting spell, if only by a few cm, but still.

XOXO

I'm not sure if this is relavant but my eyes do change on their own sometimes on my emotions other times by my clothes anyway. Opinions?