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23:55:54 Sep 02 2007
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I don't pretend to know a lot about lycans and lycanthropy, but this idea hit me while posting in another thread.

Is it possible, if you believe in re-incarnation, that an animal reincarnating to a human will produce a Lycan?

Or to put it another way: If a wolf dies, and gets reincarnated and transgresses to a human, will that human become a werewolf?

Is this also why some of us have totem animals, or animal spirit guides, or simply feel affinities with certain animals? Is it linked to what we were in a past life? I wonder...




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Proserpere
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No. The entire idea of coming back is to progress. The idea of supernatural beings would imply that they would not come as human.

Perhaps it is totem spirits that you mean, where the person takes on the likeness of the animal spirit to progress their spiritual journey. I would not call this part of the Lycanthropy.



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00:22:11 Sep 03 2007
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Well, wouldn't it be seen as a progression to go from an animal to a human being? We are, after all, at the top of the food chain, as it were.

But having said that, who said that the entire point of re-incarnation is to progress? Maybe the point of it is to experience everything about life that we can, and that isn't possible for just one species.



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from what i understand having a totem anamule has nothing to do with lycanthropy the use of a totam anamule is one trying to invoke the strenths of said totem to inhancce that persions owne strengths



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00:49:03 Sep 03 2007
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I never said that totems are connected to lycanthropy. My questions was whether a past life as an animal has any bearing on things such as lycanthropy, totems etc.



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Proserpere
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That was my point that it is not related to lycanthropy.

Who says? Perhaps some studies are required in the religions that believe in being reborn. You are born to experience yes, and to progress. The idea is you make the same mistakes over and over until you get past them.

I do not think that trying to prove myth with spirit works. Unless it is metaphor, and then it would need clearer definitions.



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00:50:13 Sep 03 2007
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See my above post please.



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Proserpere
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00:51:32 Sep 03 2007
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And my answer is still no.

why is an attempt at discussion frowned upon? If you want a poll there is a place for those as well.



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CV,

While I understand the question at hand and do think it may be possible that from a past life we are attracted to certain things or species, such as dogs or cats or wolves, I don't think it's possible to become apart of that species from a past life.



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05:27:57 Sep 03 2007
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I don't personally believe in cross species reincarnation, I do believe you can come back, but still human only.



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08:00:50 Sep 03 2007
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I simply believe that our current life is affected in some way by our past lives. I thought maybe lyancthropy etc could have something to do with this.

I thought it was an interesting theory. How much do we REALLY know about all this to say a definite yes OR no?



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08:18:28 Sep 03 2007
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we use what 10percent of our brain. it could be pasted memorys you know like how some animals kmow where breeding grounds are at with out everybeing there. the word lycanthropy is a word use for mental problem where people the the are a werewolf. I dont really understand my people embrace this word...maybe some to do with a movie...hmmmmm.lol I just think of the word lycan as a slave name



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09:18:50 Sep 03 2007
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I don't see why none of that can't be true. The thing I know about lycans is that they experience the inbetween from their higher and lower selves. (meaning the feelings between their human and animal selves) They walk a middle path.

What you say could very well possibly be true.



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12:17:56 Sep 03 2007
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i feel like it could happen. i mean, it makes sense so why not?
it seems possible to me.
if people can be reincarnated, then why not animals?



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I've always had a special connection with wolves. I don't know, but it gives you something to think about...



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14:46:30 Sep 03 2007
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I think it´s a good theory... that would explain, in some way, why people is so related to certain animals or have some traits of certain animals... or on the other hand, some phobias ...



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21:39:34 Sep 03 2007
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I personally do not think that a wolf that dies and comes back as a human would be a werewolf it would be a regular human, and this is just my thought...



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22:31:11 Sep 03 2007
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i don't know about the totem animal bit - the totem of my people is the boar - but i don't change into a werepig (or do i ? hmmmmm)



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23:01:06 Sep 03 2007
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You must remember this above all things. If you believe it then its true for you it matters not what others think only what you believe matters.

Now as to what I believe, yes it could be one of many ideas as to how Were’s came in to being. My belief in this is that I was born with this gift, where it was made I have no idea all I know is that I am going to use it to do great things.



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23:15:23 Sep 03 2007
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I believe you come back as human dont think you could come back as an animal



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00:45:27 Sep 04 2007
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Sorry CV,I have to disagree wth your theory.Since I don't believe in reincarnation..I can't agree with being reincarnated from an animal to man or vice versa.As for lycanthropy,as I stated in many other threads,it has to do with a chemical imbalance in the brain...that causes one to "believe" they are a wolf.Native Americans mostly believe in the animal spirit guide,as mine is the wolf,been since I was 5 and being 1/4 Apache...I know this.



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12:44:34 Sep 25 2007
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I believe in reincarnation but I really do not think that if you died as a wolf and came back as a human that you would become a werewolf.



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16:11:54 Sep 28 2007
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i dont claim to be an expert on lycanthyrophy but i do know a bit and ive never heard anything like this before. i can see where your idea comes from but i doubt it. id say that if a wolf trasgress into a human they might develope anamilistic traits such as alpha dominance but to actually become a lycanthrope is doubtful



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19:54:05 Sep 28 2007
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That's a very interesting theory. However, based upon my own beliefs regarding reincarnation, I'd have to say no. That's only because I believe that we are reincarnated into like creatures--humans to humans. Still, a most tantalizing possibility... ;)



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22:37:41 Sep 28 2007
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lycanthropy is a curse no one can explain it...
It just happensI



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04:54:05 Sep 29 2007
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I doubt that it could happen that way. It seems to be too much of a stretch.



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05:01:27 Sep 29 2007
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i don't see why not ..... there are alot of things in this world we can't even began to understand ..... why couldn't it happen ..... great thread *smile*



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My two best friends have wolven influence in their lives. One is a vampire/lycan hybrid and I have been honored enough to meet his lycan side. The other's friends wolven guide only comes out when he is angry. His voice gets lower and he seemingly hunches in the way a wolf takes to when he is about to fight. I don't consider him a Lycan as this seems as if it is a personality trait, not a seperate personality as in the other friend.

People can have all different degrees of Lycanthropy I think. My two friends are good examples. Would I consider the each of them a lycan? Yes, although they don't change physically like in the movies (yeah right!) their personalities change with the situation they are in. The first, mostly during the moon phase, his voice gets lower, more menacing. He seems bigger, more buff. His eyes go total black.

The second, just takes on the characteristics of a wolf when he is angry. Pacing, growling and talking gruffly. Not to the extent of the other, hence why I believe his wolven parts are more of a spirit guide that helps him get angry.

Are they reincarnated? Yes. The first, has been reincarnated several times, each lifetime, he is lycan at least and he remembers several lifetimes that I have shared with him.

The second, I will say, feels like a young soul, just starting its journey, but he has been around before, for the wisdom in his young form.


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14:25:08 Sep 29 2007
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thats how i am the wolven part of me comes out when im pissed off



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16:28:01 Sep 29 2007
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Well, technicly all is possible, really all.

But I believe that a bunch of predetermind rules here, in this universe, is forbiding such a case.


Usualy what happends with that is that lesser souls get incarnated in to a human body, way too early, and that is causing problems to that person.



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18:03:25 Sep 29 2007
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to be honest i just dont see it happening



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01:49:06 Oct 08 2007
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http://www.crystalinks.com/werewolves.html

this is a very informative site



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20:59:59 Oct 08 2007
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i never thaught of that but i think that it could happen why not your soul doesnt die there would be some animal instinct left over



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00:32:39 Oct 10 2007
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I think it is possible because I believe in reincarnation....... and that's how I actually see things.....being reincarnated into an animal or man or a being of some kind



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well I believe in reincarnation but as far as it leading to lycanthrope I dont think it is possible



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03:51:29 Oct 10 2007
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I doubt it. Reincarnation is to lead to a higher plane of existance..not to devolve.



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04:08:36 Oct 10 2007
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I do think it is possible what you said about totem animals, i think that people can reincarnate into animals and if that is true then we would have memories of being a certain animal in a past life just like some people have memories of being certain people in past lives...



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23:14:58 Oct 12 2007
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I don't think it could happen that way. However I don't know much about reincarnation since I don't know that I believe in, so who am I to say yes or no? It just seems a bit far fetched is all.



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I would suggest reading on Theriananthropy ..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therianthropy
short quote:
""The "new-age" notion of "spiritual theriantropy" developed among the Usenet group alt.horror.werewolves (ca. 1992).[6] Some Usenet users began publicly asserting that they were part animal. It turned out that some were only joking, but others were apparently serious about the assertions, which were subject to ongoing discussion.[7] Such people initially called themselves lycanthropes, but since the word more accurately describes wolf-people, the word therianthropes became more popular.""

And yes .. the life your soul takes may not be the same species ... from one life journey to the next - that is what I have put into universal truths.



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01:33:23 Oct 13 2007
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Wow, thank you so much for you valued and in-depth input there mike!

Wolfscout, thanks for that, i'll check that out!



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Kryptick
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Oh, I believe that's totally possible in a way, but not a surety.
Like this, everybody would have an apparent animal-like spirit if this theory was a surety.
However, I can see it as if you were a wolf in past lives. More than once. Or the lifespan of being a wolf was longer than your others.



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22:50:48 Oct 13 2007
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It is highly likely that cross reincarnation can occur.
Thanks for the food for thought.


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first off Lycanthropy is only a curse if you make it such. It can be a blessing. It has nothing to do with cross reincarnation, your just kinda born with it



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I think people are reincarnated and that their spirt may come into contact with an animale spirt. Certain traits may transfer to the other.
I believe that I choose all my pets and that they choose me, because it was fated to be that way.



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12:55:35 Oct 18 2007
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very insightful

I do not believe in physical reincarnation but it might explain where the ideas of lycans came to be ie. religions and stories passed down over years



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