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in America, a Jack O Lantern is a carved pumpkin head, but until fairly recently it was not known outside of the USA.

However, there is an old pub near where I used to live in Loughborough (middle England) that was named the Jack O Lantern. the pub sign was painted in the seventies to depict a Victorian Lamp Lighter - and these people were sometimes called Jacky Lanterns.

But could there have been another origin for the name? When the pub was built, it was on the very edge of town (is still pretty much near the edge even now), and beyond it were bogs and marshes. much of that area is still very boggy now. Now at one time, a Jack O Lantern was another name for a Will O the Wisp - those strange ghostly lights which are often seen flitting around bogs and marshes.

But the tale gets stranger. across the road from the pub is an old hosiery, which for many years the workers swore was haunted. the house i lived in about halfway down the street was most definitely haunted, as was the house next door. about 15 years after i left that house, i met a man who told me a very eerie ghost story - and it took place in a house on that street, just opposite and a few doors down from where i lived.

Could an entire street be haunted, and could this be connected to the unusually named pub? what do other readers know of Jack O Lanterns? I believe they are sometimes called corpse lights.




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i was just reading an article right here on VR about Jack O Lanturns and the origins from Ireland, with a story about a man who was unable to get into heaven and was told no by the devil aswell, and is now forced to walk the earth as a sprit, and in old irish lore the lanturns were made of turnips, and hollowed potatoes, to ward off this spirit and any other wondering the relm.



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I know that before the states started using pumpkins, other things like squash and even potatoes were carved and given lights on Hallows Eve.



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could the pub have been named that to word off spirits



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According to Irish folklore...

A man named Jack, well known for his drunkenness and quick temper got very drunk at a [LOCAL PUB] on All Hallows Eve. He met the Devil outside the pub because the Devil wanted his soul. Jack asked him one more drink but he didn't have the money to pay.

So the Devil took the shape of a coin and Jack put it into his wallet that had a cross-shaped catch. Jack agreed to free the Devil under one condition: he should let him live for another year. The Devil accepted.

First Jack was good then he slipped back into his evil ways. The following year the Devil reappeared and asked Jack to accompany him. Jack told the Devil to take an apple from a tree; when the Devil climbed up, Jack carved a cross on the tree and the Devil was trapped again. This time Jack asked the Devil ten more years of life in exchange for his freedom: again the Devil had to accept.

Unfortunately Jack died almost a year later. In paradise he was not accepted. In hell, the Devil recognized him and refused him admission; but, since he wasn't so bad, he gave Jack a piece of coal to help him find his way in the dark of limbo. Jack put the piece of coal into a turnip and it became known as "Lack O'Lantern". On All Hallows Eve you can still see Jack's flame burning as he searches for a home.

The Irish used to carve turnips or beets as lanterns and use them on Halloween night as festival lights. When they emigrated to the USA, they brought their traditions with them: they couldn't find turnips in America but they found a lot of pumpkins which were suitable substitutes to make a Jack O'Lantern; since then, pumpkins are an essential part of Halloween celebrations.



http://scarletstains.tripod.com/id3.html

perhaps there is some connection after all!





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some people have suggested that the name of the town is derived from the Irish Lough meaning lake. there is no proven link, but neither has it been disproved.



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Do you not have the year the pub was built somewhere or can you ask?



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Here is a link to one myth about how the jack o lantern became the symbol of halloween...

The Mystery of the Halloween Jack o'Lantern



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i dont live in loughborough anymore. i'd guess it as early 19th century. i could ring them up and ask them i suppose.



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And then you'd want to check the motif of the place. Does it have any pumpkin imagery or is it just a pub. It could be influenced by the American Jack o Lantern. I know that when all our pubs in the states were busy trying to become English and Irish pubs, the ones over there were being influenced by us in some ways.



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to be honest, i've not seen the place in 18 years - they have probably changed the motif by now - most of them did in the eighties and nineties. as i remember it, the motif was a lad in edwardian looking clothes lighting a street gas lamp with one of those long poles. unfortunately, whenever a pub or brewery upgrades the pub sign, they tend to reinterpret the name rather than pay heed to the old sign



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Ive heard the same thing, and were lit on Samhain, or All Hallow's Eve, to repel evil spirits and help them to the other side. All Hallow's Eve is when then curtain between realms is the thinnest, but I guess thats getting off on another topic lol.



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loughborough is an industrial town. during the industrial revolution, a lot of Irish laborers were used to build roads and such. maybe they brought the tradition over. the lad on the pubsign did wear what looked like an Irish hat. if indeed the surrounding area was boggy enough for will-o-wisps and they were named as Jack-O-Lanterns by the Irish Laborers it could give rise to the pub name.



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Frucissiere has hit the legend on the head. There are slight variants.

as for the will-o-wisps they were proven to be natural gases.

The pub you refer to dose not show up in my pub guide. I'm still looking.......



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I think that streets can be haunted, they are just like anything else that can be haunted. As far as pumkins go, I read some interesting ideas here in this post, but I have no new information I can Add



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I think the name may have came from the storie...
This is one of my favorite stories...
That has brung forth one messy, but beloved tradition ...
This year my oldest daughter will be pulling out the pumpkin guts... lol



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i've read the story of how the jack-o-lantern got it's name. i find it hard to believe the devil could be that gullible though. interesting that the devil should be more merciful and forgiving than god. i can also see now how the term could be used as a nickname for night-watchmen and lantern carriers. also, i can see how when people saw bog lights wandering across the moors and bogs of Ireland, people might think "ah - now there goes Jack-O-Lantern"

that's what makes me think the pub was probably more to do with bog lights than lamp lighters and lantern carriers though. a pub named after someone who carries a lantern or lights the town's gas lamps would be more likely placed in the centre of town - not on it's very edge. as i said, it's a boggy area, but it is also quite close the the railway line and station, so when the line was being laid it is this area that would have been frequented and populated by the Irish Navvies doing the job.



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I think there may well be a link.

I was born and bred in a place called The Isle Of Man....roughly inbetween the UK and Ireland.

Generations of kids have grown up with hollowed out turnips and tales of Jack....the IOM shares quite a few legends with Ireland.



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I've heard the tales from Ireland, but I also remember hearing as a child, that jack-o-lanterns were used to ward off evil spirits on All Hallows Eve.



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Im not sure if i have ever heard that story..i have heard others on the jack but thats the first time hearing that one..and...it could easily be....



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its on the corner of clarence street and nottingham road. i found a recent picture, but it looks like they have taken the old pub sign down

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I believe that thats entirely possible, that maybe the pub was named for the eerie lights, and the lights possibly had to do with the hauntings, etc.

Jack O Lanterns were used in the old days to scare off witches, vampires, ghouls, and supposed evil things from the house, sort of like how a scarecrow scares off crows.
That's the extent that I know.

But I find it amusing that people would think that a pumpkin with a face carved into it would scare off a malignant being lol



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Wow. I find this all very interesting. Before this I had never actually read about the story behind Jack O Lanterns. Very interesting. And to answer the question, I believe it is possible for a whole street to be haunted. I don't see why not. I think I'm going to look into the Jack O Latern more now. I'll let you know if I find out anything different from what is already posted.



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at least half of the street has been demolished in the past 30 years. maybe more - i havent been there since 1989. but i do know that the family that moved into my house after i moved out was also plagued by poltergeist phenomena.



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does anyone know if the factory is still there? it was just across the road from the pub. i was told that was haunted too.



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I have always heard that they are lights for the 'wondering souls' so to speak on All Hallows Eve....



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at last i now have a come back for people that complain about Halloween and jack-o-lanterns being just another American tradition invading our culture - it's a Celtic tradition.

are there any Irish / European examples of trick or treat too?



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the jack 'o lantern comes from the Irish. An old story talks about a man named jack and how, after being rejected from heaven and barred from Hell the devil gave Jack a piece of coal to light his way in the dark of the night. Jack put the coal in a turnip to carry.

After that, the Irish carved turnips and put coals/candles into them to keep evil spirits from their house.

The bog story is different. the Will 'o The Wisp would attract lost people out after dark into the bogs of Ireland, causing the travelers to drown. The will 'o the wisp looked like a far off lantern to the travelers because of its size..



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my mom was a celt and i've always carved one and put a black candle in it to kkep away evil spirits on Samhain



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i am glad to see this tradition return to our shores, and i've been carving jack-o-lanterns for years. i've always used pumpkins though - ive never used turnips. pumpkin flesh is softer though, so i guess that makes the job a lot easier.



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The legendary Spring Heel Jack that terrorized British Cemetaries may have a part in the myth as well.



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The irish used beats for laterns,
I was jack o lanterns Were used for light back in the old times, Then made into pumpkin pies



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i found a few links on it, if this helps you any..

http://www.albee.org/halloween/jackolantern.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack-o'-lantern#Tradition_rooted_in_folklore

http://members.aol.com/sbr2798428/HistoryJackO.htm



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i'm not sure what to think now. i was sure that the pub was named after bog lights, but now i'm not so sure. if the irish labourers building the railway line used jack-o-lanterns to see their way, they might have given it its name.

i'm interested in pub names. there is one in Gotham called the cuckoo bush, named after a tree that some locals built a fence around to stop a cuckoo from getting out.



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when halloween comes around in australia pumpkins are out of season, so som epay lots for them or use water melons



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Yes i do recall reading about the irish using th turnips and potatoes. Yes i do belive that an entire block can be haunted



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Beets ,,turnips any squash was used to carve the evil looking face. The face to scare off any evil spirit floating around on the night of the thin veil.
PS- throw the pumpkin in the woods to be eaten, no sense wasting food. the animals love it. : )



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When I was little I was told a story of how Jackolanterns were actually placed at each grave instead of at a house in order to guide the souls back to their homes so that they aren't doomed to haunt the living for the rest of eternity.



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Before being used as jack o lanterns ---- they were hollowed out and used to carry coal --- holes were carved in them to let the air flow through them --- for the long walks ---



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I’m Irish and when I was a child we used turnips because pumpkins were not readily available all those years ago, either that or my mother was too miserable to buy them lol.

I have to add that there was absolutely no joy in carving a turnip because those feckers are hard as hell and it was more like being given penance to make one as opposed to a jovial holiday festivity ;P

I think Jack O Lanterns should have kept the the tradition of turnips as they look much scarier and evil than pumpkins when they are carved O.O



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here's a story from you

Jack, the Irish say, grew up in a simple village where he earned a reputation for cleverness as well as laziness. He applied his fine intelligence to wiggling out of any work that was asked of him, preferring to lie under a solitary oak endlessly whittling. In order to earn money to spend at the local pub, he looked for an "easy shilling" from gambling, a pastime at which he excelled. In his whole life he never made a single enemy, never made a single friend and never performed a selfless act for anyone.

One Halloween, as it happened, the time came for him to die. When the devil arrived to take his soul, Jack was lazily drinking at the pub and asked permission to finish his ale. The devil agreed, and Jack thought fast. "If you really have any power," he said slyly, "you could transform yourself into a shilling."

The devil snorted at such child’s play and instantly changed himself into a shilling. Jack grabbed the coin. He held it tight in his hand, which bore a cross-shaped scar. The power of the cross kept the devil imprisoned there, for everyone knows the devil is powerless when faced with the cross. Jack would not let the devil free until he granted him another year of life. Jack figured that would be plenty of time to repent. The devil left Jack at the pub.

The year rolled around to the next Halloween, but Jack never got around to repenting. Again the devil appeared to claim his soul, and again Jack bargained, this time challenging him to a game of dice, an offer Satan could never resist, but a game that Jack excelled at. The devil threw snake eyes—two ones—and was about to haul him off, but Jack used a pair of dice he himself had whittled. When they landed as two threes, forming the T-shape of a cross, once again the devil was powerless. Jack bargained for more time to repent.

He kept thinking he’d get around to repentance later, at the last possible minute. But the agreed-upon day arrived and death took him by surprise. The devil hadn’t showed up and Jack soon found out why not. Before he knew it Jack was in front of the pearly gates. St. Peter shook his head sadly and could not admit him, because in his whole life Jack had never performed a single selfless act. Then Jack presented himself before the gates of hell, but the devil was still seething. Satan refused to have anything to do with him.

"Where can I go?" cried Jack. "How can I see in the darkness?"

The devil tossed a burning coal into a hollow pumpkin and ordered him to wander forever with only the pumpkin to light his path. From that day to this he has been called "Jack o’ the Lantern."

from http://www.americancatholic.org/features/Halloween/jack-o-lantern.asp



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The Irish brought the tradition of the Jack O'Lantern to America. But, the original Jack O'Lantern was not a pumpkin.The Jack O'Lantern legend goes back hundreds of years in Irish History. As the story goes, Stingy Jack was a miserable, old drunk who liked to play tricks on everyone: family, friends, his mother and even the Devil himself. One day, he tricked the Devil into climbing up an apple tree. Once the Devil climbed up the apple tree, Stingy Jack hurriedly placed crosses around the trunk of the tree. The Devil was then unable to get down the tree. Stingy Jack made the Devil promise him not to take his soul when he died. Once the devil promised not to take his soul, Stingy Jack removed the crosses and let the Devil down.

Many years later, when Jack finally died, he went to the pearly gates of Heaven and was told by Saint Peter that he was too mean and too cruel and had led a miserable and worthless life on earth. He was not allowed to enter heaven. He then went down to Hell and the Devil. The Devil kept his promise and would not allow him to enter Hell. Now Jack was scared and had nowhere to go but to wander about forever in the darkness between heaven and hell. He asked the Devil how he could leave as there was no light. The Devil tossed him an ember from the flames of Hell to help him light his way. Jack placed the ember in a hollowed out Turnip, one of his favorite foods which he always carried around with him whenever he could steal one. For that day onward, Stingy Jack roamed the earth without a resting place, lighting his way as he went with his "Jack O'Lantern".

On all Hallow's eve, the Irish hollowed out Turnips, rutabagas, gourds, potatoes and beets. They placed a light in them to ward off evil spirits and keep Stingy Jack away. These were the original Jack O'Lanterns. In the 1800's a couple of waves of Irish immigrants came to America. The Irish immigrants quickly discovered that Pumpkins were bigger and easier to carve out. So they used pumpkins for Jack O'Lanterns.


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http://www.pumpkinnook.com/facts/jack.htm



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Maybe when the Irish laborers saw the bog lights they was reminded of the myth and named the pub after it...

Also yes I do believe an entire street could be haunted



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I believe it could be haunted, a building, a street, a town, a state. I'm surprised more areas of where the american civil war was fought aren't haunted. Places where there was a lot of violence or one particularly violent act tend to be haunted. Did something happen on that street in Ireland?



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I have found this particular thread very interesting and this is what I have found on Wikipedia. Here is the webiste address: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack-o'-lantern

Jack-o'-lantern
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A jack-o'-lantern illuminated from within by a candle.A jack-o'-lantern (sometimes also spelled Jack O'Lantern) is typically a carved pumpkin. It is associated chiefly with the holiday Halloween, and was named after the phenomenon of strange light flickering over peat bogs, called ignis fatuus or jack-o'-lantern. In a jack-o'-lantern, typically the top is cut off, and the inside flesh then scooped out; an image, usually a monstrous face, is carved onto the outside surface, and the lid replaced. At night a light (commonly a candle) is placed inside to illuminate the effect. The term is not particularly common outside North America, although the practice of carving lanterns for Halloween is.

[edit] North American tradition

A Jack-o'-lantern carved from a turnip.Throughout Ireland and Britain, there is a long tradition of carving lanterns from vegetables, particularly the turnip, mangelwurzel, or swede.[1] But not until 1837 does jack-o'-lantern appear as a term for a carved vegetable lantern,[2] and the carved lantern does not become associated specifically with Halloween until 1866.[3] Significantly, both occurred not in Ireland or Britain, but in North America. Historian David J. Skal writes,

Although every modern chronicle of the holiday repeats the claim that vegetable lanterns were a time-honored component of Halloween celebrations in the British Isles, none gives any primary documentation. In fact, none of the major nineteenth-century chronicles of British holidays and folk customs make any mention whatsoever of carved lanterns in connection with Halloween. Neither do any of the standard works of the early twentieth century.[4]
In America, the carved pumpkin was first associated with the harvest season in general, long before it became an emblem of Halloween.[5] The poet John Greenleaf Whittier, who was born in 1807, wrote in "The Pumpkin" (1850):[6]

“ Oh!—fruit loved of boyhood!—the old days recalling,

When wood-grapes were purpling and brown nuts were falling!
When wild, ugly faces we carved in its skin,
Glaring out through the dark with a candle within!



[edit] Folklore

Pumpkin craft for Halloween.An old Irish folk tale tells of Jack, a lazy yet shrewd farmer who uses a cross to trap the Devil. One story says that Jack tricked the Devil into climbing an apple tree, and once he was up there Jack quickly placed crosses around the trunk or carved a cross into the bark, so that the Devil couldn't get down. Another myth says that Jack put a key in the Devil's pocket while he was suspended upside-down.

Another version of the myth says that Jack was getting chased by some villagers from whom he had stolen, when he met the Devil, who claimed it was time for him to die. However, the thief stalled his death by tempting the Devil with a chance to bedevil the church-going villagers chasing him. Jack told the Devil to turn into a coin with which he would pay for the stolen goods (the Devil could take on any shape he wanted); later, when the coin/Devil disappeared, the Christian villagers would fight over who had stolen it. The Devil agreed to this plan. He turned himself into a silver coin and jumped into Jack's wallet, only to find himself next to a cross Jack had also picked up in the village. Jack had closed the wallet tight, and the cross stripped the Devil of his powers; and so he was trapped. In both myths, Jack only lets the Devil go when he agrees never to take his soul. After a while the thief died, as all living things do. Of course, his life had been too sinful for Jack to go to heaven; however, the Devil had promised not to take his soul, and so he was barred from hell as well. Jack now had nowhere to go. He asked how he would see where to go, as he had no light, and the Devil mockingly tossed him an ember that would never burn out from the flames of hell. Jack carved out one of his turnips (which was his favourite food), put the ember inside it, and began endlessly wandering the Earth for a resting place. He became known as "Jack of the Lantern", or Jack-o'-Lantern.

There are variations on the legend:

Some versions include a "wise and good man", or even God helping Jack to prevail over the Devil.
There are different versions of Jack's bargain with the Devil. Some variations say the deal was only temporary but the Devil, embarrassed and vengeful, refuses Jack entry to hell after Jack dies.
Jack is considered a greedy man and is not allowed into either heaven or hell, without any mention of the Devil.
In some variations, God gives Jack the turnip
Despite the colourful legends, the term jack-o'-lantern originally meant a night watchman, or man with a lantern, with the earliest known use in the mid-17th century; and later, meaning an ignis fatuus or will-o'-the-wisp.[7] In Labrador and Newfoundland, both names "Jacky Lantern" and "Jack the Lantern" refer to the will-o'-the-wisp concept rather than the pumpkin carving aspect.



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my great great grandfather was a lampman he used to walk the streets lighting and extinguishing street lights with a tall staff with a flame on the end! he was also known as a jacky lantern ,



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Well it sure sounds like a place somebody like me should go and spend some time at. I've never heard of this pub before, but seeing as how it is in a different country than I am, that's not surprising.

I just read online that is is closed for a new paint job.

http://loughborough.2cuk.co.uk.istemp.com/


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What follows is a brief history based on the most popular and accepted facts regarding the history and origin of the Jack O'Lantern. Since much of what is known regarding the beginnings of the Jack O'Lantern is sketchy, we have tried to provide you with the most accurate, albeit brief, account available. In no way do we claim this to be the final word on the subject as the origin of the Jack O'Lantern to this day remains open to discussion and dispute.

The term Jack of the Lantern first appeared in print in 1750 and referred to a night watchman or a man carrying a lantern. Previous to print, it was used to describe a strange light flickering over the marshes and graveyards of Ireland. If approached, the light advanced and was always out of reach. The mysterious occurrence is also known as "will o' the wisp" and "ignis fatuus," Gaelic for foolish fire. However, its legendary status reaches far back into Irish folklore with a story of a stingy drunkard named Jack.

Jack, an Irish blacksmith, had the misfortune of running into the Devil in a pub on Halloween. Jack had imbibed a bit too much that evening and was about to fall prey to the Devil, but the quick thinking trickster made a bargain with the Devil, nonetheless. In exchange for one last drink, Jack offered up his soul. The Devil changed his form into a sixpence in which to make payment to the bartender, but Jack pocketed the coin in a bag with a silver cross with the knowledge that the Devil couldn't revert form. Once under Jack's thumb, and in his purse, the Devil agreed not to come for Jack's soul for another ten years. Ten years later, the Devil came across Jack walking on a country road and explained to him that he was there to collect Jack's soul. Not ready to go, Jack, pretending to comply, asked the Devil if he would climb an apple tree first and give him an apple. The Devil, thinking he had nothing to lose, climbed the tree, but as he was plucking the requested apple, Jack pulled out his knife and carved the sign of the cross in the tree's trunk. The Devil was unable to come back down and Jack procured an agreement from him. The Devil would never take his soul.

Years later, Jack finally died. He went to Heaven, but was dismissed from the gates due to his drinking, tricking, and miserly ways. He then went to Hell, but was denied entrance because the Devil remembered his promise. Jack asked, "But where am I to go?" And the Devil replied, "Back to where you came from."

The way back was dark and windy, so Jack pleaded with the Devil to at least grant him light in which to find his way. The Devil, in a magnanimous un-Devil like manner, tossed Jack an ember from the fires of Hell. Jack shielded the ember in a turnip he'd been eating and left Hell to wander back.

Ever since, Jack has been doomed to wander in the darkness alone, and his name and lantern are synonymous with a damned soul.

The fear of souls like Jack's venturing back to the warmth of their previous homes on Halloween spawned a custom that is carried on today. Originally, Irish villagers, concerned about the possibility of visits from past occupants, would dress in costume to frighten away ghosts. They also left food outside the door to appease the spirits and carved or painted faces on turnips, potatoes, rutabagas, or beets to place in windows or doors in order to chase away ghosts with the symbol of a damned soul. In England, large beets are used.

The Irish Potato Famine of the mid-1800's prompted a massive immigration to the Americas. With the Irish, came their beliefs and traditions, including the use of a Jack O'Lantern. The Irish discovered that turnips were not readily available in the Americas and substituted the vegetable with pumpkins instead. Pumpkins, a fruit native to America, make perfect Jack O'Lanterns.

The Jack O'Lantern is easily the most recognized and used symbol of Halloween in modern age. Not only is it used outside front doors in traditional form, but it's become the veritable treat container for trick or treaters. While the face of the Jack O'Lantern has changed over the years with the advent of pumpkin carving kits, it's still an ongoing tradition.



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Stingy Jack
"Stingy Jack." According to the story, Stingy Jack, an Irish blacksmith and notorious drunk, had the great misfortune to run into the Devil in a pub. Jack invited the Devil to have a drink with him. True to his name, Stingy Jack didn't want to pay for his drink, so he convinced the Devil to turn himself into a sixpence that Jack could use to buy their drinks in exchange for Jack's soul. Once the Devil did so, Jack decided to keep the money and put it into his pocket next to a silver cross, which prevented the Devil from changing back into his original form. Jack eventually freed the Devil, under the condition that he would not bother Jack and not try to claim his soul for ten years. When the ten years had passed, Jack ran into the Devil as he walked down a country road. The Devil was anxious to claim what was due but Jack stalled. Jack thought quickly and said to the devil. "I'll go, but before I go, will you get me an apple from that tree?" The Devil thinking he had nothing to lose climbed the tree as Jack pointed to the choicest apple. Perturbed, the Devil climbed high into the tree after the apple Jack selected. When he was high up in the tree, Jack carved a sign of the cross into the tree's bark so that the Devil could not come down. Jack, very proud of himself made the Devil promise to never again ask him for his soul. Seeing no other choice the Devil reluctantly agreed.

Soon after, Jack died. As the legend goes, God would not allow such an unsavory figure into heaven. The Devil, upset by the trick Jack had played on him and keeping his word not to claim his soul, would not allow Jack into hell. Being unable to go to heaven or hell Jack asked the Devil where he should go. The Devil only replied, "Back where you came from!" The way back was very dark so Jack begged the Devil to at least give him a light to find his way. The Devil tossed Jack burning coal from the fire of hell to light his way. Jack put the coal into a carved-out turnip and has been roaming the Earth with ever since. The Irish began to refer to this ghostly figure as "Jack of the Lantern," and then, simply "Jack O'Lantern." Today we commonly spell it jack-o-lantern or jack-o'-lantern.

In Ireland and Scotland, people believed that spirits and ghosts could enter their world on Halloween. These spirits and ghosts would be attracted to the comforts of their earthly lives. People not wanting to be visited by these ghosts would set food and treats out to appease the roaming spirits and began to make their own versions of Jack's lanterns by carving scary faces into turnips or potatoes and placing them into windows or near doors to frighten away Stingy Jack and other wandering evil spirits. In England, large beets are used. Immigrants from these countries brought the jack-o'-lantern tradition with them when they came to the United States. They soon found that pumpkins, a fruit native to America, make perfect jack-o'-lanterns. They were softer and easier to carve than the turnips and potatoes of their homeland.

So remember this Halloween when you are carving your pumpkin the moral of the story of Stingy Jack.



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Yes it is very possible that an entire street can be haunted and whole towns can be haunted. It certainly can be connected to the unusually named pub. I think Jack O Lanterns can be a number of different lights. I know some are called simply Lanterns or Lights.



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