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When I walked around I see these girls no old than 13 dressed in cloths that I started to wear when I was 17, make up and skits that I swear could be a belt. I think to my self what has multi media done to these children they don’t have a childhood any more they are forced to grow up to quickly like sex ed convo’s in year 4 what the hell is with that. I think that child should be allowed a childhood hell I had one it wasn’t the best but at least I had the chance to chose when I grow up (by the way it was only a year or two ago) but they need a childhood for them to understand things it is shit

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I would have to agree with you. I just chose to grow up when I was 16, but I also had a full time job and all. 13 is toooo young!

i know what u mean, i went to my lil sis's school to pick up her work when she was sick, and she goes to middle school, so these girl who can be no older than 14 caking on more make up then i've ever worn! High heels cells phones, the purses and clothes. They were tryin to act like as if they were as old as me even older. But of course this a richy neighborhood where the parents spoil them to death, and they don't appreciate it...

If i could i'd wanna be able to have a childhood again those were some fun times, children are trying to grow up way too fast! What is the world comin to?

its worse down here i swear that girls no older than 12 or something like that hardly wear anything now, they smoke, drink god knows what else they do.

i think its to do with peer presure aswell as tv, they see all these kids acting hard and they pick on them till they join in, its stupid but i do think it is worse in the states, and thing is it will only get more serious.

We have the crap here.
I swear to god on the bus home girls sit behind me "talking" (shouting all over the bus when they are right next to each other) about what they have done or are gonna do I get off feelin sick.
The clothes are quite extreme as well I have a baby who is 18mnts I was clothes shopping for her and there was stuff there I'd seen on girls in town but jus bleedin miniturised god damn there has to be a limit somewhere but what scares me the most is ppl BUY THESE FOR THERE LIL KIDZ that unsettles me no end that an elder a care a parent thinks it is ok for their CHILD to wear this....................the mind boggles sometimes it really does

Everyone is true here!
The worst thing about this all is that Im affraid of bringing a child into this world...
I see and everyone can see it that this situation of young ppl gets worse from year to year...And what will be in five years? I dont know....Im not sure if I will be able to accept my child being one of those children...spoilted...doing sex till 13....I hate that idea!

I think that as the world changes, people act in different ways.

When my mother was young, girls and boys never spent time together unless they where 'courting' which seems ridiculous now.... as a result, when I have a male friend (and I mean FRIEND) around, my step dad starts asking if he's my boyfriend, and why I have so many boyfriends... when I know that they are just mates.

This is a typical example of the GENERATION GAP. People change... not always for the better, but its something that the media and society itself has unwittingly spawned, and this is out of our control.

The only thing we have the power to do, is to moan like our parents, as their parents did to them, as their parents did to them....

i choose to grow up about 3or4 years ago too lol i dragged it along with me as long as i could i did not take it for grantid *or however you spell it* i never wanted to grow up, i knew of the responsibility i would have to take up. i see wat you mean also, kids want to grow up to fast beause they dont realize the responsiblity that awaits them. i would never trade those hours of dirt digging with my dog, lizard chasing, soccer and softball playing days.

I think that a long time ago girls were getting married and having babies at 13, in those times it was accepted.
In my time having a childhood and adolecence was expected and a set of norms were established. But like everyone is saying, the times are changing again. Children are growing up fast, some parents are not parenting or are just not there. Change is bound to happen, but it does not mean its gonna be healthy or positive. Scares me to see these children out on the streets, especially when they really are not ready to start "playing" adults. Its sad.
Just my 2 cents ... Lady

well i suppose it's anyone's choice when to grow up and whatever... i'm 20 and i still refuse to do so lol. we all have our experiences and we all have our own ways to deal with them but in the end of the day our innocence is ours to lose, and no one's to take away.

i am speaking as a kid and i do believe that we do want to grow up quicker than planned. but the only reason for that is, we really dont have any freedom at this age. we do have some but... anyway we do have childhoods, they're just different from the ones older people had when they were kids. we still have fun and we are able to say when we want to grow up (i havent yet) some people just choose earlier than others.

The problem is that they are not growing up too fast, but they are acting like grown up persons, imitating models from TV not realizing that things they see on TV are far from real life. They can't see the line between real world and world they see on TV. I don't know for you but there was some things that were forbidden for me to watch on TV when I was young.
Second problem is that kids too early learns that money is power, so they are trying to look more impressive and expensive.

To ScaresofremorsE

I'm afraid that in most cases that kind of childhood is atrificial as growing up like that

Times change. Not everything is the same as you would want it to be. Also, not everyone is you.

I could not agree with you more. Just the other day two girls walked into work and they were dressed in way too short of skirts and they looked 17 but they were 12! I think it is horrible how all these young girls are dressing like sluts. And one day some guy is gonna mistake them for older than they are and they are gonna be in deep shit.

i agree with everyone here. these kids (i'm a kid too, i know) are growing up too fast, but not in the mind department. as for me, i don't dress like that. i wear makeup, but i don't look like a slut. i never wore a mini skirt, i find them uncomfortable. i wonder how the girls put up with those things. ...anyways, i don't think i've grown up yet. my time will come.

these kids are dressing too old for their age is just throwing away years of carefree, pure fun and exchange for the drama that we adults have to put up with and sometimes want to escape. I believe these days that the parents are just pushovers cause if i ever dressed like they do now at the age of thirteen then my father would bet me to a pulp. the parents need to step up to the plate and realize that they are still in control. My father made it clear that he had the power still. Some of these parents give these kids anything they want just to shut them up and that is wrong. My cousin is going through this stage but my grandpa is stepping up to the plate cause her real father is gone somewhere else for the moment.

when we are oyung we are foolish... but when werew older we cannot go back.

How depressing was that!?

I remember trying to be older when I was sixteen, but I went about it with black make-up and a marilyn manson T-shirt :-) we all grow out of things (thank goodness I did) but its only later ont hat you wish you where a child again, but in my opinion its because its too far ago to remember the bad bits...

i see it to and i had and child hood and still have one why would anyone want to show off that much of there body! i have never doent that before... its not good to do that other my think ur a slut and u say u dont want that but yet u ware things that make u look like one and thats wrong..they(we) do need to grow up that fast

sadly, When I went to pick my cousin up from elementry school there were alot of young girls i saw in the same clothing you describe. two inch skirts, make up and short shirts. I just have to wonder what their parents think everytime they llok at them. I was shocked

sadly, When I went to pick my cousin up from elementry school there were alot of young girls i saw in the same clothing you describe. two inch skirts, make up and short shirts. I just have to wonder what their parents think everytime they look at them. I was shocked

It is sad how they choose to be grown—ups before their time. All the while these children are acting like grown ups they are indeed children being “allured” into these things, makes you wonder where the parents? Now, I’m not blaming parents for this, but parents do have a great deal of influence in their kids….and when they are not affecting kids…you begin to wonder, where are they?...probably working, which I understand they have to do, but this does affect the way a child is brought up. The media alone is not to be blamed. I used to work retail at a prominent store, and I would be amazed at the things i would see and way that these 12 13 year old girls would dress. You’d think they were prostitutes or something if they weren’t so innocent looking, roudy and immature. At that age if I would’ve TRIED to go out like that or acted like that, I think I would have been locked up in the attic or something to never come out again. How is a decent little girl going to go out dressed like that at that age? It has to do with the way kids are raised, I’m sorry to say. It has to do with parents. Parents are so tired nowadays that they do anything to keep their child happy and not making trouble….when in reality they’re doing more damage to their kids than they will ever bargain for.
no call me uber conservative, i dont care, but i think this is all wrong...the way society is going down the drain with young girls...

-my $00.02

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I agree with everyone on here because 13 is to young for girls to be wearing make up and wearing clothes that only older people should be wearing. I have even seen girl younger than that wearing clothes that that and i am like what in the world is up with that? I would never let my lil girl walk around school and public dressed like she is 16 or 17 getting looks from older guys. I couldnt handle that. If they want to act like this, they need to think again. They must not want to have a childhood being like this.

It is a shame, I tell ya.

It's a shame when you look at a pre teen and have to wonder how old she is. The truth is that behind the make up, skimpy clothes and hair dye, is a child. They still have the cognitive capacity of a n adolescent -- their looks do not directly correlate to their mental abilities. Their facade just facilitates predators to target them. Who should we point fingers at? Parents, of course.

I agree Deity!!

LMAO.. i wonder how many of the under 15 crowd this thread has pissed off...

All of these issuse stem from the breakdown of the family. The plight of single mothers taking on the responsibility of the absent father has disintegrated our society. no one person can do the job of two. not for very long at least. No matter how "horrible" the nuclear family is in your opinion..at least the mother had the time to mother.

As a mother I would have to agree. I still don't wear clothes like alot of the children do around here. and I am mid-twenties. My daughter will grow up with morals, and an understanding of what respect is. If you don't respect yourself, don't expect anybody else to.

But you can't put the blame on single family's. Look who their role models are:britney, Beyonce, christina,etc.

They need to learn the difference between reality and t.v.

what's really scarey are these new underware for girls hipster pants, they litterally have no back to them..

can you say easy prey?

was has been said here is so true but really there is nothing that we can do to stop teenagers from dressing like this really it is their chose but what i want to know is whatthe hell their parents are thing or more to the point do their parents know

You also have to look at, for the most part it is the parents buying the clothes for the kids in the first place. At least until they are old enough and are working and buying their own clothes. So uhm .. where's the parental input there?

there is no child hood anymore,parents that i see to day have no input to there kids lives it very sad...peer presure is insane anymore...i feel for the kids..its will be a very hard road for them when they do grow up

Crazywolf has a really good point... there are now thongs and padded bras made for kids, and I htink this is wrong. My sister is ten years old, and in a couple of years I know that I will be desperately worried about her.

we live in a world where everything myst be fast. Fast food, fast cars, fast money..

for Christ's sake... people even pace in circles around the microwave when something is warming up for a mere minute.

This might be reflecting about our youth. The need to grow quickly is becoming increasingly obvious.

These children weren't born thinking that way... They were made. Yes it's true we make our own choices. But what we see around and what happens to us in society affects the choices we make....

We've established the problem, now is there a solution?

I think the solution would be change what is 'cool' for young children. A very difficult task. Any ideas? Things in schools etc?

I don't think the influence schools have on students is substantial enough to cause a major reform.


Schools have advocated abstinence for many years and we all know how well that is going.

It all starts at home. Our number one teachers are our parents.

Very well said but our first influence in life is the Father, Mother, Child, triangle...
This is when the the morals, values and principles are instilled in us...
If these are solid then they should last throughout our lives..

Another thing, it sounds like your automatically judging these kids on the way they dress...

Does that really make them hoochies?

Look at the role models and trend setters for these kids.. (Britney... and them other hoes)

As a parent what can you do????
Try and understand what your child is going through and provide support for whenever they fuck up...

I love the Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy! ..one of my favourite cartoons ;)

I seriously agree with you, I'm 16 (Well i just turn 16) and I still don't even wear those clothes! I don't intent to either.

ye i agree totally with you.In my country at the age of 10 u see girls like that and have a bf.Man! I started to date and wore my first mini skirt at 15! I was bullied though cause I was different.And even now am seen as an outsider.I consider myself very open-minded but I don't like to see 10 yr olds dressed liked 20 or more like sluts!I agree with you, children have to enjoy their childhood!

It's not only the girls who have to live up to the hype but the boys do too. Parents wonder why their little girl got pregant or worse raped. It has to end sometime but it doesn't seem that it will. They blame the media for everything how come they don't blame them now !!

Good point Gorey, I do agree about the culture difference, but it is also true that we cannot blame everything on the parents.

I think we ahve more of a problem then 'chavs.' I think I went to a rougher high school than you, and I saw stuff like what we are tlaking about right from year 7.

it's basically a case of "surroundings" the parents are one of the main factors. from there the child will make friends, who those friends are, are another big factor. Peer Pressure is another big factor. sometimes children... being children... do things just because others do. or to look "cool"

The high school i went wasn't that rough, but it could be. I just never got involved in a lot of the crap that went on.

I meant to first post in this quite a while ago. right at the start of the thread but my browser died on me and it didn't post.

Basically. i've been predicting a downfall or change in mankind. and one of the factors will be the younger generations, this entire subject was a huge factor between me and a friend ben. there's a definate increasing trend in the number of slutty kids... if this carries on... every slutty kids gonna breed. population will increase and then you've got masses and masses of problems just from that one initial problem that we see the start of today.

That was just ONE element of the downfall/change in mankind. and the conclusion my friend and i came to. was that it's basically unstoppable, and it's probably going to happen even if people try to realise it and stop it.

basically... let the kids fuck up their lives. they wanna drop out and screw around (in both sense of the phrase) then let them, they'll pay later in life when they are stuck in their hometown with a few mouths to feed and no money to feed them with.

one of my dreams, is to take those i love and plonk them on a self-sufficient island. so that we can live in peace from the rest of the world.

that dream i hope to make real IF the downfall/change happens when i'm living.

the seeds are being sown... what grows from that? only time will tell, that and the care the seeds receive

But Gorey, life isnt pink and fluffy like that, this is the real world. This sort fo thing has been happeneing for years, and who can preict a totally accurate shift in the worlds social dynamic... that would be to say that people are totally predictable.

I think I said somehting on a thread once about feleing I shed my skin every few years, and become another version of me. When I was 12, I was silly, and did silly things (although not in the way this threads leaning to) but that was because I was young, and I shouldn't be penalised for that, should I?

nope... that's the learning curve, exactly what most of the kids are going through...

let them "learn" i say...

RIght, so let them get pregnant, not have the money to get an abortion, and have to have a baby when they are still a child themselves, and all in the name of being 'cool' or because sex education in schools is inept?

I dont htink Id want to live on your self-sufficient island if that was the case :-1

Let people ahve learning curves Gorey, but be there to help them realise what they did worng and sort it out for goodness sake, dotn leave kids to ruin their lives because you reckon they deserve it.

good point hun...

there isn't much more that can be said on the problem. to be honest. i won't be bothered about it until it affects me. which i don't think it will anytime soon as i've gone through that silly phase.

I'm not sure about sex ed in schools... you said it's the law, yet i had no sex ed at all... ever...

and how do you teach kids that don't want to listen?

Not all children dont want to listen. I did, and I didnt liek being tarred with the same brush of 'ignorant child.'

You have to have sex ed Gorey, its a UK school requirement.

*shrug* i didn't... :S maybe i should sue them

Your nearly 20 years old hunny, I htink you have survived without it :-)

Its the vicious cycle of how to treat a child when they want to be a child, and it si hard for tohers to know when to take the step from treating a child as an adult so they know how to be safe, and what sort of morals adults live by.

i have survived without it... thanks to... errr... *thinks* encyclopedias... and to the people that don't know. that's not code for porn. i actually learnt the basics from encylopedias :(

kids... whatever shall we do with them?

prozium II... the way forward *laughs*