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HalfBreed
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What do you think? People say that vampires have all been wiped out. But is it REALLY true? I don't think so. Maybe they're are some left out there. Hell maybe even here in Vampire Rave. Of course they're out there. Waiting. Waiting for what? A perfect time to strike? A perfect time to rule humanity? One thing's for sure, they're waiting for a time to reborn themselves and take over little by little. My theory is, well, my ADVICE for humans is, WATCH YOUR NECK.
What do you think? Watch your friends closely.




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I have to agree with you, I mean some ppl say that vampires completely don't exist, but cmon, there are a ton of unsolved mysterious out there in our world, and we don't know everything that lives and breaths on our planet...

There are other creatures besides us out there, they are prob just hiding very secretly, that is why we haven't found out about them yet...

I believe that vampires exist...



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well, what can i say? maybe we will see, maybe we wont lol



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HalfBreed
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Something I forgot to mention here. You probably know this already but if not, vampires are really good at hiding. Just letting you know.



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u make a really good question and damn is really hard to answer since ppl think they dont exist some think they never existed and some thinks they still do so really thats out of my league...



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HalfBreed
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Another thing, How many kinds or types of vampires are there? Not just regular nocturnal vampires that sleeps on the day and awaken at night. Have you seen the movie Blade 1-2? That movie can make you wonder. There are Daywalkers, Psycics, maybe even WATERPROOF vampires. Like I said, watch your neck.



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Echo
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23:58:53 Sep 30 2005
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There are a lot of unsolved mysteries, but that doesn't mean that they are vampire related.

I beleve that MODERN DAY vampirism is a state of mind.



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Technically Vampires are every where, but am dragging off to my thread now lol. But agreed echo its a state of mind.



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HalfBreed
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00:07:42 Oct 01 2005
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I know. Just want to post a forum here see if it interests people.



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Anything is possible. If people can believe in God why can't peolpe believe in Vampires. How did the idea of Vampires started? I believe Vampires are out there and will be for some time. What they are doing? *shrugs shoulders'*



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HalfBreed
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Here's another one. What if they really have been wiped out. You know, period. Hooray for humans to wipe them out. If not, God. That means maybe it'll take another thousands of years for vampires to rise again. For this reason (if true) that would mean that the human race has to start over.Right?



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Echo
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02:27:09 Oct 01 2005
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I dont believe in God either.

Well, let me put it this way, I dont believe the peope I have spoken to who claim to be 10000 year old vampires.

I believe that there is a lot we dont understand, but I dont think characters like Marius and Lestat are wadering around.



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HalfBreed
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Then there's the fact that people say vampires are immortal. Do you think they are or maybe just long lasting? Again is something not to think on much but just to entertain ourselves out of boredom.



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echo trust me,i m the real one:-))jk



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Vampyres do not exist.

It is a conspiritorial ploy by the government to generate targets for fear and for whom the genral populace will seek protection from in the welcoming arms federal system.

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merton
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14:15:38 Oct 01 2005
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vampires come from stoneage times when there was lots of bloodshed and killing and eating enemy clans and tribes. I think we have modernised since then. Do ya think?



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would you care to supply even a shred of proof to support your supposition merton?



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HalfBreed
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16:10:03 Oct 01 2005
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Real or not don't you think is interesting to think about at least? There's really no proof whether or not they exist. Is just a matter of belief.



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20:40:52 Oct 01 2005
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I, also, do not believe that they have been wiped out as you say..They are definately around..You are probably standing next to one right now..lol..seriously though, I think they are in hiding..It is not time yet..



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Well if you believe that vampires existed or do exist and that they are immortal...then would it not stand to reason that whole areas of people would of been destroyed by them in ancient times with their feeding?????



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HalfBreed
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04:52:46 Oct 03 2005
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Maybe because they are outnumbered as I understand.



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Vincent
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you have to understand that we vampires are not to quik to add to are numbers. if there is a larg number of vampires than we tend to "eat are selves out of house an home" so to speak, and vampires are a stingy lot, we will not make just any one a vampire. this is are power an we guard it greedily. we are happy to hide in the shadows,
I my self own a home an live very comfortably, i am protected just by the fact that people dont belive in me or in what i am, point provin just by this post alone.



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HalfBreed
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18:20:54 Oct 03 2005
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Does it waste energy to turn someone into a vampire? Or all you have to do is bite and leave?



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blacksoulangel
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18:22:37 Oct 03 2005
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mm maybe they do exist somewhere..



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19:00:49 Oct 03 2005
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Have u guys ever encounter someone here that makes u believe that are a real vampire.. Not someone moderm.. I mean someone who claims more. ???

just a question *hides in a corner*
*smiles*



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its just something that people want to believe, they have enough to worry as it is in the real world. its all down to whether or not u want to believe, being ignorant will surely get u killed.



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I don't believe that they're wiped out, but I think that the population has thinned quite a bit over the years.



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All legands have a truth to them. Like mermaids, gobins, and dragons, and all that. There had to have been a reality of them exsisting in order for it to have started and how is it that they all know what they look like from being on the one side of the world and have the same image on the other side. So yeah, how is it that Vampire's didn't exsist. There's a lot of forms...evolution. As humans do, the Vampires had to have evolved as well, mixing the bloods to so many generations that it could have broke down to two different present day ladders; the Sanguarian and the Psi. The Sangs are blood lusters and the Psi's are the ones who feed off of the emotional energy. So what else is new? How much have they evolved?



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oh, and the Hybrids. The one's where there's more than just one generations type in them. so could vampires have been bled out through adaption and become half human and half vampire?



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you fools the first KNOWN Vampire was the one and only Vladimir the Impaler. plus the only reason why we havent seen Vampiri are because they are HUNTERS! dont you get it? Do you think a wolf would catch his meal if he had shown itself first?! then had walked over and started telling his life story!?!



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i hate to throw a screwdriver in the chains love, but vlad was the first one to be acknowledged as the first vampyre...there were others before him that were vampyre way before he was born.



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That is very accurate! Listen to the lady, dude.



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Xaxxa
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And how many people disappear around the worls everyday...never to be seen or heard from again?
Could they have been a meal perhaps.... just a thought....



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I think that there are vampires among us.. I mean in today's society we are able to access willing participants in blood letting practices, it isnt that we hide so much as the fact that people are blind to our existence.. we are merely the freaks with the purple spiked hair, ot that gothish boy.. you know? it is easier to have a compliant donor than to just rip the throat out of unsuspecting villagers,
however in earlier times, we were not as accepting as a society, hence vampires were ostracised, not romanticized... making the legends of old what they are still today... horrorific tales of monsters, not an actual being suffering from a vampyric condition.



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just because he was the first known doesnt mean that he was the first in exhistence



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It's like the Bennington Triangle in VT and that Burmudda Triangle



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If i were to find it true i would be more then willing to go without a fight.. i hate humanty.. If i were to live forever i would know i wouldnt be alone.



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The Science of Vampires
Part I
In 1616, Italian scientist Ludovico Fatinelli published his Treatise on Vampires, in which he speculated that vampirism was caused by a microscopic pathogen. He was burned at the stake for heresy. Fortunately, science plowed ahead, undeterred. The information included in this section is the result of the work of countless dedicated men and women.

The Virus

HVV source:
the bat flea
Xenopsylla cheopsis

HVV carrier:
Vampire bat
The source of vampirism is the Human Vampiric Virus (HVV). Like Rabies, HVV belongs to the order Mononegavirales, viruses with a nonsegmented, negative-stranded RNA genome. Viruses in this group have a distinct bullet shape. The virus' natural host is a flea commonly found on cave-dwelling bats, especially the vampire bat. In the most common scenario, a bat which has been bitten by the flea passes the virus on to livestock and humans through a bite.
While in theory HVV infection is possible through any exchange of bodily fluids, transmission occurs through the bite of an infected person in virtually every case.




Stages of the Disease


Electron micrograph of HVV (left);
The virus budding off an infected cell (right)
Stage One: Infection. Within hours of being bit, the victim develops a headache, fever, chills and other flu-like symptoms as the body tries to fight off the infection. These symptoms can be easily confused with more common viral infections, although the presence of bite marks on the body is usually enough to confirm the diagnosis. This stage generally lasts between six and twelve hours, during which the vaccine is 100 percent effective.




In 1800 France, an infected
woman is given a transfusion of
goat's blood, a desperate, futile
measure to ward off the disease
Stage Two: Vampiric Coma. Within 24 hours of being bit, the victim will slip into a Vampiric coma. During this phase, the pulse slows, breathing is shallow and the pupils are dilated. The large numbers of people mistakenly buried alive while in Vampiric comas gave rise to the myth that vampire sleep in coffins. While it is commonly thought that anyone infected with HVV turns into a vampire, in fact only a small percentage of people survive Vampiric comas. Generally, the young, the old and the feeble never come out of their Vampiric comas and eventually die. The vast majority of people who survive Vampiric comas are males between the ages of 18 to 35. Vampiric comas last about a day; the victim usually comes out of the coma the night after its onset. The vaccine is 50 percent effective when administered during Stage Two of the infection: the longer the victim has been in the coma, the less effective the vaccine.


During vampire epidemics,
many victims were buried while
still in a Vampiric coma
Stage Three: Transformation. A bite victim who survives the coma wills awaken fully transformed into a vampire. An acclimation period follows, characterized by confusion, despondency and paranoia. Most vampires begin to hunt within 24 hours of transformation. The vaccine is of no use at this point.





The Science of Vampires - Part II
Vampire Biology
A person who comes out of a Vampiric coma fully transformed will have undergone a number of major physiological changes affecting the various systems of the body. The information included below is only an overview; for a more detailed account, try two classic texts: Henry Gray's Anatomy of the Vampire and Vesalius' Five Books on the Structure of the Vampire Body.

Brain/Nervous System
A vampire's nervous system is similar to humans and has proven to be their "achilles heel." Injuries to the spinal cord and brain can devastating for vampires. While a vampire's spinal cord and nerves work as before transformation, a numbers of changes take place in the brain, and that altered brain chemistry goes a long way toward understanding vampire behavior.



Normal brain (left) shows serotonin activity;
vampire brain (right) shows none
serotonin: vampires have much lower levels of this neurotransmitter. In humans, low levels of serotonin trigger aggression and risky behavior. A study of murderers on death row revealed low levels of serotonin in their brains.

dopamine: another neurotransmitter, dopamine induces feelings of well-being. In vampires, it is released during feeding and has a narcotic-like effect. Neural pathways activated in vampires during feeding are much like those found in addicts when using drugs.

circadian rhythms chemical changes in the brain that helps us "rise and shine" with the morning light are reversed in vampires.

Sense Organs
Powerful sense organs gave vampires an advantage both in hunting and eluding capture. Sneaking up on them virtually impossible, as they are aware of your presence long before you are aware of theirs.


Normal eye (left); Vampire eye (right)
sight: in vampires, the iris in each eye becomes hyper dilated, giving them what appear to be black eyes. While this iris dilation gives vampires excellent night vision, it renders them effectively blind in daylight. In addition, vampires suffer inflammation of the sclera, making the whites of their eyes appear red.

smell/hearing: both senses are extremely acute, as vampires have double the receptor cells in their noses and ears compared to humans. In fact, vampires usually smell or hear a person coming long before they see one.


Hair, skin, teeth, fingernails
Part of the terror of encountering a vampire stems from dramatic changes to their outer appearance. Some of these changes are functional, while others remain a mystery.



The upper (l) and lower (r) eyeteeth
experience rapid growth
Teeth: during vampiric coma, the upper and lower eyeteeth experience growth. Additional enamel is deposited on the crown of the tooth. Vampires will file the teeth to make them sharper for easier feeding.
Hair: vampires lose all their bodily hair within ten years of transformation (except for the tiny hairs in their ears, known as cilia).

Skin: a newly-transformed vampire has a sickly, pale yellow skin tone that turns to blue over the next few days. In time, the skin becomes more and more translucent, and a fine network of veins become visible under the skin.

Fingernails: vampire fingernails thicken and grow at a rapid rate. Vampires will file their nails to a point, which helps them in grabbing victims.
Circulatory System
The most profound differences between humans and vampires are found in the circulatory system. These differences enable vampires to survive massive trauma that would kill a human being.


Blood: vampire blood is called ichor (pr. ik-er). Modifications to hemoglobin in the blood cells makes vampire blood appear black.

the Heart: vampire blood is pumped via the contraction of skeletal muscle rather than the heart, which eventually atrophies from disuse.

adrenaline: this "emergency hormone," which normally kicks in during "fight or flight" situations, is found in consistently large amounts in vampire blood. The presence of adrenaline, along with changes in muscle, bone and connective tissue, account for vampire's extraordinary strength, speed and aggressiveness.


Seen through night vision,
a vampire attacks its prey
Body Temperature
A vampire's core body temperature is only about 60 degrees, compared to over 98 degrees for humans. This marked difference proved to be a great help for modern vampire fighters, as it made vampires easily distinguishable from humans when viewed through heat-sensitive infrared imagery (note the difference between the vampire and human in the picture at right).

Muscular/Skeletal System
Adaptations in their skeletal and muscular systems give vampires significant advantages over humans.


Muscles/Connective Tissue: about 90% of vampire muscles are of the fast-twitch variety (compared to 50% for the average human). Fast-twitch muscles enable short bursts of maximal force, ideal when hunting prey. Also, vampire ligaments and tendons thicken in response to the workload imposed upon them by the muscles.
Skeletal system: vampire bones thicken, an adaptation necessary to support their newly-powerful muscles.

Aging and Life Expectancy
While no vampire on record has ever died of natural causes, vampires do undergo an aging process, just not in the same way as humans. Vampires do not age on a molecular/genetic level, but their life of hunting and eluding capture creates tremendous wear and tear in the form of injuries to bones and tissue.


A 125-year old vampire
photographed in Spain, 1901
Note the curved spine and
lack of hair
Because they presented such a danger to society, most vampires were destroyed long before the outer limits of their life span were determined. Ancient history offers some clues, however. In Ancient China, there was said to be one vampire in the emperor's court through the entire (eastern) Zhou Dynasty, which would put his age at 550. More accurate modern records have certified vampires of over 200 years old.

Contrary to the opinions of many theologians, vampiric longevity is not the result of some pact with the devil, but rather an ability to ward off the DNA damage that occurs during cell division in normal humans. Specifically, the protective caps on the ends of chromosomes known as telomers get chewed up over time in humans, but not in vampires.

Though their DNA may have the ability to resist aging, a vampire's appearance will change dramatically over time. Vampires lose all of their hair within 10 years of transformation. Over time, a vampire's fat stores shrink away and its skin becomes thinner and more transparent, giving it a withered, dried appearance. Aging also leaves vampires with a pronounced curvature of the spine.

Despite their rather feeble appearance, older vampires are still extremely powerful and agile. Many a vampire hunter has made the mistake of underestimating them.







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Vampire Population Hits One Million

Public Health Notice,
Chicago 1908
At the turn of the Nineteenth Century, a growing, increasingly urban population, along with rising immigration, contributed to a spike in vampire numbers. In a widely-published 1905 vampire study, FVZA scientists estimated the worldwide vampire population at one million.
The vampire population boom forced world leaders to take drastic measures to try and slow the spread of the plague. U.S. President Theodore Roosevelt ordered a curfew in every city and town in the country. At dusk across the land, curfew sirens rang out as children ran in from their play and cities fell dark. The curfew was economically devastating for restaurants, theaters, bars and nightclubs, and led to a mini-Depression. President Roosevelt also authorized an emergency vampire relief fund, with most of the money going to the FVZA to hire more people and upgrade their equipment. In addition, every branch of the Armed Forces was called into service to help the Agency.


London's Battersea Station,
the end of the line for
thousands of vampires
Large cities were hardest hit by the vampire explosion. Early each morning in London, boatmen would make their way west along the fog-shrouded Thames, stopping at various wharfs to pick up vampires that had been destroyed the night before. The sight of a withered old boatman slipping silently through the fog, his boat heaped with vampire corpses, was one of the indelible impressions of the day. Eventually, the vampire corpses would be brought to the Battersea power station for incineration. At its peak, Battersea station was burning over one-hundred vampires a day.


Bombay's Old Quarter
before it was burned
to the ground
Other cities took more dramatic steps to combat the rise in vampirism. In Bombay, India, the city's old quarter, with its narrow streets and numerous homeless people, had become a a breeding ground for vampires. When extermination efforts by British troops did little to stem the problem, the Viceroy ordered the area burned to the ground. Thousands were displaced, and a precious historical neighborhood was gone forever. Not surprisingly, vampire fighting became a valued trade: mercenary vampire fighters roamed the globe, demanding top fees for their services.


NY Times
Headline, 1905

FVZA Agents take down
a "curfew-buster"
While vampires took thousands of victims between 1900 and 1910, their psychological toll on the public may have been even worse. Innocent people were gunned down as panic and paranoia reigned. Some enterprising Americans tried to leaven the stress by opening illegal bars and clubs known as "Curfew-Busters." The locations of these establishments changed often to keep away from the prying eyes of the FVZA.

In general, attempts to skirt the law were the exception and not the rule. Most people in the U.S. honored the curfew, forcing blood-starved vampires to become more brazen, and in the process, more vulnerable. After reaching a peak in 1905, the vampire population stabilized somewhat, before growing again through the Great Depression and the war, until science trotted out its greatest weapon: the vampire vaccine.



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its called copy and paste...
here's my vampire theory(a scientific approach)

back in not-so-modern times there were albinos who may have been allergic to the sun and if exposed began to burn as if a curse from god for entering his majestic light...or whatever.They were forced from villages where the only way to preserve their heritage began a trend of incest and within generations bread more albinos with physical and mental deformities such as bad or missing teeth(from birth) With the red eyes you can see why people would be afraid(personally I love an albinos eyes..dated one once...omg)So now that dna has been mutated unto itself it may give way to obscure thinking(such as a thirst for blood to live to maybe give their skin pigment(idk) they would also have what some call retard strength.And if they had the eye condition where a person cannot stand bright light...even to this day there is a condition as such(just can't find the actual term) It would explain why vampires were thought to only feed and live during the night.I don't know but I' tried for a theory



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yea i agree with you on this... watch your necks mothafuckas ^^



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another thought I was having was in europe mainly there have been reports of shc or "spontaneous human combustion" where people have burnt up to ash with only there feet reamining due to the fact that heat rises...and in some european cultures you must cut the legs off a vampire as so he may never rise from the grave again. thats just another theory...they may have found a body burnt with minimal or no damage to the rest of the room except where the body was found...ash and feet are usually all that is left. which is where the theory of them turning into ash came from...once again I don't know.



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It's not vampires to be afraid of. Fear mankind. They're the ones to sneak up on you and try to break your neck.



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oooooooo-k

but that's not really a vampire theory...that's a fact of life...lol



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i agree with michen



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Folklore vampires are not real. Were never real. All throughout time vampirism has either been a STATE OF MIND or a MEDICAL CONDITION.

Thats just my opinion. Modern day vampires I would classify as a state of mind or a medical condition, therefor they are real and it can be proved by science. and HAS been proved by science, they just have a different name for it. ;)



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well put lord.



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lucioswolf, don't worry if they're just theories. This thread is basically about theories. Never thought this thread would have many.



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eh...I just always thought that theories were actual innovative ways of looking at certain things in a different light. Notcopying and pasting from someone else site and claiming its mine...but actually using my own brain matter to come up with an actual possible concept. Not the dreary same ol' hum drum that is drudged up on a daily if not hourly basis. Here's a fact...NO-ONE and I mean NO-ONE ON THIS SITE IS A "TRUE PURE BLOOD VAMPYRE" And it's baffling to me why these so called "pure bloods" wonder why people judge them negatively. Well duh...you're claiming to be the undead here to feast on their blood. How did you expect people to react....lol. They claim to be mystical , and for all intense purposes "mythical" creatures of the night. That would be like me saying I own a unicorn and I'm being dead serious when I tell you. Would you believe me...NO! And if you did...I have a bridge to sell you that goes to a property I own called "New York"



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One can't prove this one way or the other. But i some what agree that their still around (after all their greatest strength is they look like us.) But I don't think that their going to take over.



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i agree



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Whatever happens happens,I won't hide my neck cause my belifs are different.



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everyone has their own beliefs on if vampires exist or not, whether or not they are still here or have died out years before. Personally i think there is definately something out there bt we will never know for sure, unless they make themselves known.



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maybe they're waiting till the last world war when everyone is divided and out for their own.When humanity is at it's weakest and most vulnerable.When we hit another dark ages.



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i know for a fact that vampires truly do still exist,,,i happen to know about 8 of them



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wow...ACTUAL vampres that have risen from their grave. You must be a very powerful being. I know bigfoot....he hangs out with my friend the easter bunny and frankenstein.



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i believe there are millions of vamps out there, they just want their privacy so they stay hidden.



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I sure there are sever vampires in existance...but I doubt the #'s are that high or they'd be more known. And I SERIOUSLY doubt that they really associate with anyone that is NOT an actual vampire...like I've heard said many times here. We(humans) are beneath them...I mean would you really hang out with a steak or chit chat with a meal.



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As I understand it, death is not always the case when feeding. I mean would you wipe out your entire food source?



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My point is ,to make such a claim as to know about 8(such a specific #) real vampires(not people living a vampire "lifestyle") is short from ridiculous. I really doubt they let mankind know of there true existance because humanity cannot be trusted with such information and not tell of their existance. I believe they have a "code of secrecy" and for good reason. NOT TO ATTRACT ATTENTION TO THEMSELVES. So I doubt they would reveal themselves to a cybergeek(I'm one as well) that makes a claim like such. Booberry says that I'm correct. And Count chocula hangs out with my other friends as well. Sounds stupid...doesn't it.



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i beleive that they are out there and all humans dont deserve to be turned into vamps. if they do start killing, humans should die...



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I believe-but I also believe that no matter how many the number, sooner or later one of them has got to talk to one of us...I think of it more as a symbiotic relationship for the most part



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But wouldn't it be make more sense to think that if they want a companion, they would turn one...or even if it's a want to explore us...why would they openly say who they were...and as far as someone knowing 8...They must really like him and trust him enough to reveal themselves to him.I do believe they are out there. Not that I think I'll ever meet one.



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i beleave that vampires still walk the earth.



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I beleive they are around. Just as ghost and satan is. I beleive they are laying low...maybe cause they are outnumbered as someone had stated...and some that claims to be vamps...could be a state of mind only but I also beleive there are some real ones that has been around for a long time.



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They still exist



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i highly doubt something as "spiritual and powerful" as the vampire can be whipped out by mere mortals such as ourselves they are smarter than that



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vampires are out there but if they wanted to take over the human race they could of done that allready. how do you know they are hideing, could they just be great hunters. allways watching but waiting for the right time to strike.



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     Call me a naive girl.. needing medical attention but I still belive there are vampires...

     Explanation: I mean where did some of these ideas come from? Well in medieval times it was well known belief right? If certain religions ban talking about these things ideas about vampires should have been wiped out, even if there are those people who were naughthy enough to break the clergic rules or those hisorians who write almost anything to attract people into reading there theses.

     Another theory might be ridiculous but hell I'll give it a try. What if some vampire (with those mental abilities) put theses ideas into people's heads some kind of programming.. (I dunno the reasons haven't completely thought it out..) Another belief is that vampires are beyond humans already if that's true why would they stoop to a level that humans always make a mistake like leading a war. So they wont conquer us maybe plainly observe us and live there life within our world silently hidden. Well just a theory..

     For those who belive vampires are gruesome monsters then they should have destroyed us years ago along with them and their bloodlust... So they also wont conquer for fear of losing food supply.



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i think that its not likely that vampires still exist, but i suppose its possible.



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Vampire the darkness is a natural place to disquise such a creature you would think but we are a nation of day walkers and live in society as any other person this is where the 13 rules of community apply and most have donors and feed from these preselected ppl. It is as one in the bloodline may say live amoung the cattle and do not destroy your food it is best no to frighten the herd. It will remain this way forever.



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Very interesting theories.....I believe I will keep an eye on this discussion.



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What I see, is that the Condition was never something that left us. We, those afflicted by the condition, have grown smart in keeping our existence on a low profile. Since we do not live forever, and do not have such ungodly powers that would determine us from normal people, we are safe from being dragged out and put upon the chopping block.

Yet, that doesn't keep us from being caught by actual hunters, who will kill us or the loonies who loose themselves and actualy go out and kill people, then get caught and say things about being a vampire. which only puts negative light upon us.

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I think that vampires are one of those creatures that you only see them before you die. Kinda like "oh shit they do exist!!...oh god Im dying...get off my neck....urk..."



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well if its all true i will let them turn me hehehehehehehehehehehehehe



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The Science of Vampires

In 1616, Italian scientist Ludovico Fatinelli published his Treatise on Vampires, in which he speculated that vampirism was caused by a microscopic pathogen. He was burned at the stake for heresy. Fortunately, science plowed ahead, undeterred. The information included in this section is the result of the work of countless dedicated men and women.

The Virus.
The source of vampirism is the Human Vampiric Virus (HVV). Like Rabies, HVV belongs to the order Mononegavirales, viruses with a nonsegmented, negative-stranded RNA genome. Viruses in this group have a distinct bullet shape. The virus' natural host is a flea commonly found on cave-dwelling bats, especially the vampire bat. In the most common scenario, a bat which has been bitten by the flea passes the virus on to livestock and humans through a bite.
While in theory HVV infection is possible through any exchange of bodily fluids, transmission occurs through the bite of an infected person in virtually every case.

Stages of the Disease.
Stage One:
Infection. Within hours of being bitten, the victim develops a headache, fever, chills and other flu-like symptoms as the body tries to fight off the infection. These symptoms can be easily confused with more common viral infections, although the presence of bite marks on the body are usually enough to confirm the diagnosis. This stage generally lasts between six and twelve hours, during which the vaccine is 100 percent effective.

Stage Two:
Vampiric Coma.
Within 24 hours of being bitten, the victim will slip into a vampiric coma. During this phase, the pulse slows, breathing is shallow and the pupils are dilated. The large numbers of people mistakenly buried alive while in vampiric comas gave rise to the myth that vampires sleep in coffins. While it is commonly thought that anyone infected with HVV turns into a vampire, in fact only a small percentage of people survive vampiric comas. Generally, the young, the old and the feeble never come out of their vampiric comas and eventually die. The vast majority of people who survive vampiric comas are males between the ages of 18 to 35. Vampiric comas last about a day; the victim usually comes out of the coma the night after its onset. The vaccine is 50 percent effective when administered during Stage Two of the infection: the longer the victim has been in the coma, the less effective the vaccine.

Stage Three:
Transformation.
A bite victim who survives the coma will awaken fully transformed into a vampire. An acclimation period follows, characterized by confusion, despondency and paranoia. Most vampires begin to hunt within 24 hours of transformation. The vaccine is of no use at this point.

Vampire Biology.
A person who comes out of a vampiric coma fully transformed will have undergone a number of major physiological changes affecting the various systems of the body. The information included below is only an overview; for a more detailed account, try two classic texts: Henry Gray's Anatomy of the Vampire and Vesalius' Five Books on the Structure of the Vampire Body.

well just a theory



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Modern vampires are such due to a medical condition or lifestyle choice. This is proven fact. Folklore vampires are just stories. Modern science would surely have proven so if it was. So no I don't believe vampires will ever rise up and control mankind.



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all i am going to say is this just think about the myths and leagonds about vampires and some storys u have heard and think to ur self about it they r very solitary beings and u never know if one exsits



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I believe that vampires still exist they have a code of secrecy that they must keep.Its not like they are all gonna say here they are lol



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vampires are still around and will take over.... can't wait



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what about "Families", can you say they hold like a fosterhome or bretherns?



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why is it that so many people want to know if vampires live or what I for one am a vampire and will be untill the day i die or ak killed off but I do not see that happening for a very long time



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vampyres rise up and take over the world? i see machines doing that way before any being having the ability to do so...
besides, who want to rule this world? its going to shi@ in a hand basket fast...



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im a vampire we like to try and blend in with hemans to decieve them into thinking we don't exsist , but we are just waiting for the perfect time to strike.



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Un fortunately for most the competetion is to great, vampyres will allways be in hiding.



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I just need a little proof, but i believe they may exsist



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I also believe they do exist, somewhere...



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I don't know.

I beleive in demonic possesoin, big foot, ghosts and the like. Isn't it possible that vampires could be out there some where?

I hope so any way.



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they are out there



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im a real vamp and i think that we should rule humanity but there are things holding us back our ways of life has a big part we have our own laws and rules to live by and until the time comes i belive we will just have to wait in the shadows and keep blending in like we've been doing



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Ah.. one of my favorite debates. My opinion on this isnt fully based on vamps, but they are certainly involved in it.
It irritates me how people just guffaw and shrug off the thought of there being other things out there other than us. For something to be there that we dont see, or acknowledge, is just a great example of how arrogant people can be. We want to the the best of everything, the rulers, the dominant race and we refuse to give anything other than our fellow homo saphiens credit for anything at all. People are scared to admit there could be other things out there; whether it be vampires, ghosts, aliens, anything. We're not sure about something and instantly assume it doesnt exist. Thats bullcrap. People have no imaginations. Im speaking for myself, and hopefully a few more of you, when I say that just because we dont NOTICE something openly, doesnt mean its not there watching and waiting. I try to keep an open mind, and it annoys me how 99% of people I know refuse to also.



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Vampyres exist, they are allways in the top 5 percent of society, very influential and wealthy, they do not act or dress gothic and keep to themselves, No desire to have attention drawn towards them and are very very intelligent.



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White Wolf theory theres thousands all throughout the world in every walk of life. Blade theory theres tens of thousands. But I gotta go with the Dracula theory, Vlad himself and a few bitches, thats it.

Secondly, there are over 50 real vampires living in just the US.



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First, my theory of the beginning of vampire folklore started with midevil untreated diabeties.

Second, I think that traditional vampyrism and modern vampyrism are two different things.

Third, I think there's a difference between being undead and being a vampire.
You can be both or one or the other. Not all vampires are undead and not all undead are vampires.

I'll post more on my theories in my journal if you want to look.



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I believe that vampires still exist they have a code of secrecy that they must keep cuz if they dont then they really will b wiped out but i like 2 think they r



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Informative... Very Informative... Anyways.... I dont really get all this stuff... Vampires are very Complex people but then again Very interesting!!!



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jtavarez50
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03:54:42 Nov 04 2005
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I believe there are vampires. not in the immortal sense but they do exist, i'm sure :)



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Kiaya
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04:37:52 Nov 04 2005
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So do I, I just beleive that they have evolved to fit in the modern day world and changed in ways to suit their own personal environments, so therefor they're not all exactly the same.



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killbox365
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04:41:04 Nov 04 2005
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I do know you could be sitting next to one at lunch and never know it.



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HalfBreed
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18:51:53 Nov 04 2005
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Lol. Well I see that this is getting nowhere else except I think they're still out there. I guess it's time to close this then. Can someone please do this for? Thank you all. I really appreciate the theories. But really I think this thread has reached it's limits.



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HalfBreed
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18:52:31 Nov 04 2005
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:P Sorry I meant to put * do this for me*



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RAAGIOSL
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21:06:04 Nov 04 2005
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There are definetaly vamps in our existence. Over the many thousands of years that they have existed, they have learned a thing or two about the importance of staying underground. In the past they could get away with alot more due to mortals being inferior to them. In this age mortals are now powerful and capable of destroying the clans. So it is very inportant that they stay in the darkness.



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BloodLustingEyes
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05:54:54 Nov 06 2005
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vampires are not extinct nor will they ever be. and even if it does get to that point they will live on forever in books, movies, mind, and soul.



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19:16:14 Nov 06 2005
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I am a firm believer that while vampires do exist, that they are less than enthusiastic about the climate in which we live in that people see vampirism as an attitude like being goth, or emo or whatever else. I myself would be extremely reticent to exposae myself to a bunch of kids who think being a vampire is "cool" or "the thing to do" and only want to play at it, not really to live it. I would think that most vampires would prefer to stay out of the spotlight, and keep to themselves-and quite frankly, I can't say I blame them. After all, with all the whinings of "bite me turn me" it would be kind of hard to listen to all that noise to seek out a true devotee.....



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06:28:07 Nov 08 2005
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to be or not to be sigh vampires exsist but books and movies obscure what a vampire is lol by defination vampiric is to feed of life force be that blood or energy that every thing that lives gives off and is surrounded by smile go to a concert and watch the crowd feed off the energy it rasies and watch the fringes for those that feed w/o contributing chuckle but that can be said for any party where there is a good time being had muhahahah
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06:38:19 Nov 08 2005
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You are correct, the sun is up and the party is over. Thanks peeps!



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