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ForbiddenTemptation
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15:01:30 Nov 22 2005
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Can a Vampire see his complextion in the mirror or if u take a picture of a vampire, will he come out in the picture ? Have u ever wondered?




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I have never wondered. Give me a second... I have a reflection. One more second... Yep. Why wouldn't we? We still have a body, don't we?



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15:53:09 Nov 22 2005
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It depends on wether you believe the mirror shows the soul. Personally, I believe in physics. Light bounces. photographs and reflections all around.



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I agree... we have a body so I would think that we would have a reflection as well. I can only speak for myself when I say that I do have one.



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If you have a shade then you have to have reflection in the mirror whatever you are.



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i once read a book that said a true vampire can not see his/her own reflection



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I think the lack of reflection is tied in with the "heavy fantasy" vampire. For most, when we speak of Vampires, we are not talking about something you have seen on the big screen.

Roughly translated;

Fantasy Vamp = no reflection
Real Life Vamp = reflection



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Given that the whole reflection thing is tied to the soul, it would depend on your personal belief system. However, if there is a physical presence then, soul or not, there would be a reflection. Good question.



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I do believe vampire still has a body... so yes it should still have a reflection



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well, having no reflection is only part of the myth.



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bloodyfang224
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so can they see reflections or not?



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Well I must say that I have not thought about that until I read your forum...Hmm....Well I think that a Vampire already knows his/her complexity, so they wouldn't need to look into a mirror to be reminded of their complexity...And who would sit there and take a picture of a Vampire in the first place??, lol...



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20:46:00 Nov 22 2005
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There is no reason that a vampire couldn't see their own reflection. If they didn't bounce light, then they would be invisible all the was around. Not the case.



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20:46:36 Nov 22 2005
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~Typo~ All the way around~



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Some say that Vampires can't because they have no soul. But I'm not sure I think it counts on the vampire.



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Isn't this all to do with the myths because they have no soul? Depends if you believe it or not. As for taking a photo, I'm not to sure.



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A vampire has a body.
A mirror reflection any solid object put in front of it.
So yes, I believe a vampire has a reflection.
As for cameras same thing.



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everyone has a reflection plain and simple.
if you don't have one, get help fast.
Non reflection is again, the hollywood version of things.



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I agree with Deathnitegrl. If you cast a shadow, you show a reflexion.
Vampires have bodies, bodies are visible in light (even dim light, even when all the lights are out but there's enough light), and being a solid body, they do show a reflexion.
Once again, I believe in HLV's that do have to get up early in the morning to go to work, like everybody else, and not being able to see your reflexion in the mirror would be a major bummer when you need to fix your self to be presentable at work, dealing with the neighbours, going to the coffee shop, grossery and so on.
I consider the non-reflexion a myth.



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The vampire myth about not having a reflection from what i understand was wrapped more around the christian beliefs that it was a soulless creature it cannot see its reflection because it is not seen in the eyes of god.
Some even believed that it cannot see its reflection because it was a creature of evil that had no concept of right or wrong and it can not comprehend mentally to see past its nature.



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well look in the mirror



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My reflection still exists, some times i find that it changes.scaring myself has become a thing of the past. As far as pictures go i haven't had mine took in years so i wouldn't know



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I read in a book somewhere, that a vampire can make his reflection appear in a mirror, so that a mortal does not notice that his reflection is not there. But whether or not that is true I don't know.



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i can see my reflection and i still have my body. i think the reason they can't in the movie area and such is because vampires are a symbol of evil. it goes to show that the saying hear no evil, "see"no evil and so on goes to show that society wants no part in evil or wants to acknowledge that even thought their curiousity never ceases.



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If there is still a body then there must be that's the way I view it



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DevilsAngel83
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I doubt a camera would be able to capture the image of a vampire



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never have heard of anyone who didnt cast a reflection in a true mirror...and as to being a vampyre ..due to the fact that they are human...they can cast a reflection just like anyone else



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It was once believed that the Devil created mirrors in order to trap wandering souls. Vampires and mirrors are down to fiction, Bram Stoker has much to answer for, as it was he who conceived the idea of the Vampire having no reflection, Jonathan Harker witnesses Dracula hurling his shaving mirror out of the window, the vicious count angered by his lack of reflection, a cruel reminder of his undead state.



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of course they would have reflections, they have bodies, why would becoming a vampire change that?



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i have no clue



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The fact that vampires have no reflection is just a myth in my opinion.I mean we have a physical body,it's not like vamps are transparent.



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i believe it stemed from the belief that vampires had no soul and the belief that mirrors are a reflection of such



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A superstition started many decades ago that if you take someone's photo, you steal their soul.

The vampire no photo/no mirror thing is proberly a different twist on that



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I've heard that as well, about taking a picture is stealing the soul...but no...they can see their reflection and show up in a photo. :)



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It's another myth,I guess it would be terrible not to be able to look in the mirror and check your make-up or hair don't you think so?



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I figured I'd give you guys a little more to discuss upon, as i stumbled on some pretty good speculations.


"What's That in the Mirror?"

-The word mirror has it's root in the Latin verb mirari, which means to wonder at. And what does wonder mean? Wonder comes from the Anglo-Saxon word which means "... a portent. The original sense is awe, literally, that from which one turns aside."† Awe has it's distant roots in the Greek word achos, or fear. What I'm getting at here is the differing reactions to mirrors. I want to find out possibly why folklore then assigned mirrors as containing our souls, and to possibly why breaking a mirror was considered as bad luck. It becomes clear to me that the mirror was an experience of wonder that could be either thought of as bad or good, depending on what one thinks one sees. If the mirror is broken then one could no longer wonder at it and hence oneself. Its even worse if one breaks it on purpose, because then one is refusing to look at what's there. I can see why the mirror can become frightening, especially if one doesn't approve of what one sees there, which is oneself. The mirror can often expose the real self, as opposed to the delusion of what one thinks one is.

Consider this when you wonder why Dracula did not appear in the mirror, and then why he then broke it. I've come to think that he wasn't soulless, but he was afraid of looking upon what he had become, which metaphorically was nothing. He did not want to reflect on what he had become. He had ceased to wonder at himself, and in that act had ceased to change. Since he had ceased to change he really was dead. He's only still 'alive', or existing because he drinks the blood of others. -



This is the website where I found this information, for those who like to read.


What's That in the Mirror?




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i would say yes because they do have physical forms so y wouldnt they be able to see their reflection?



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hhmm

we all still have our physical bodies so i can see my physcial self but as for my soul or what there might be of a soul no that is not seen



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welll...in the movies the vamps don't have reflection...well i thinks its exagerated cos they have a body...so yes...reflection



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I believe that vamps do have a reflection. I haven't come across any documentation saying otherwise.



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I think the word 'reflection', when refering to the soul in the mirror, is using this defination..."an effect produced by an influence ie. a high crime rate is a reflection of an unstable society." The 'influence' shown when you look in a mirror is what you feel in your soul. That is what the person standing in front of the mirror sees. I feel loved and happy, so, I'm going to see a bright and happy me in a mirror. Since a vampire has nothing or darkness in his/her soul that is what they will see in the mirror. But the pure physics allows there to be an image of the body that everyone else will see.
Therefore, a vampire has an image, but no reflection. Unless they where invisible. That's something completely different.



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i think that you'd still be able to see a vampire in a mirror. after all they have a physical form that isn't much different from a human form. you can get pics of spirits and they don't have a physical form, so why not a vampire. i think it's just a hollywood thing to make it easier for the vampires to sneak up on the "good guys"



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i think there pale



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I think that a vampire should be able to see themselves in a mirror. They do have flesh after all. And as for pale, I would really think so.



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Just another Hollywood fable



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I think it's just a Hollywood myth they have created, thats all.



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Thay have to have a reflection, considering they have a body. Another Hollywood myth.



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Most likely. Could a ghost see it's relfection? hehe



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I heard that about taking a picture and steeling their soul, too. It sounds like old superstition to me. I mean if you steel there soul by taking a picturer, then why can you keep taking pictures of them? Once you have lost your sole you can not get it back, right.



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I am sure they can be seen in a mirror...why couldnt they? Its the old myths and superstitions..supposedly it was because they were damned that they had no reflection anymore....



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I believe that vampires can see their reflection and take pictures and all that jazz. I think that the whole "they cant see their reflextion in a mirror" thing was just a Hollywood scare tactic. Or something to that effect.



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in myths no. but i think a lot of the myth is bs and movie made anywho. so yes i think they can see their reflection.



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I think if you have a body then it would show up in a mirror i think the only people who believe this is "religious" or "people who only believe what their told" people.



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i like mirrors



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Yes, of course they can see their reflection....good god....I swear sometimes you people just *mumbles*



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yes you can see their reflection and they show up in pictures. everything else is a myth



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i think that the eyes are windows to the soul and if a vampire that had no soul could not see there selves



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i think that the eyes are windows to the soul and if a vampire that had no soul could not see there selves



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i think that the eyes are windows to the soul and if a vampire that had no soul could not see there selves



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i think that the eyes are windows to the soul and if a vampire that had no soul could not see there selves



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i think that the eyes are windows to the soul and if a vampire that had no soul could not see there selves



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i think that the eyes are windows to the soul and if a vampire that had no soul could not see there selves



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i think that the eyes are windows to the soul and if a vampire that had no soul could not see there selves



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i think that the eyes are windows to the soul and if a vampire that had no soul could not see there selves



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i think that the eyes are windows to the soul and if a vampire that had no soul could not see there selves



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i think that the eyes are windows to the soul and if a vampire that had no soul could not see there selves



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i think that the eyes are windows to the soul and if a vampire that had no soul could not see there selves



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srry botton got stuck :(



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nope havent wondered but i kno i have a relection so.....



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It's just another hollywood myth!!! I take pictures just fine, and I see myself in the mirror just fine aswell!



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ROFLOL

This is SO funny! Of course vampires have reflections when they look in mirrors, and can be in photographs!

Vampires
1. have bodies
and
2. are visible to the naked (human) eye.

By the way, most vampires have souls, to! (When I say that, look at it from this perspective: some humans have no souls, so there must surely be a soul-less vampire somewhere out there!)



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BillytheJust
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Yep to both. Blemishes and all!



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I would assume that the answers to those questions would be yes.



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Midnite
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Yes we have reflections. Just like every one else. And i just had my picture taken.



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It is just a common misconception due to folflore that Vampires cast no reflection & do not show up on film.



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Yes it would show for the simple concept that Cancer brought up... Physics... Without light we cannot see... & it bounces off of everything including Vamps... & then bounces off a mirror in which shows us a reflection... therefore they have one... I on one hand am not a vamp... but have thought i might have thier blood in me so I cannot say for certian about the mirror topic... but that is what i believe...



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I agree fully with Cancer it is all Physics



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Exactly...



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okay



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Wampirzyca
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Depends on what you think a vampire is...
Sure you did read many definitions, didn't you?



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I think that what we may percieve and what the vampire may percieve are two different things.. where as we may be able to photograph or see an image in a mirror, perhaps the vampire cannot see themselves for what they truly are? and that is why the myth was started.



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Bloodravenlove
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A mirror can,t reflect such beauty.



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Darknessdude29
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I believe that you can take pictures of them and that they can see themselves in the mirror



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i think as long as a vamp has a soul it can se its reflection



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doesn't a deadbody have reflection or appear in pictures...and they don't have soul...well...i believe that vamps...have reflections...



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as vampires are dead, they shouldn't have a reflection... but as humans are able to see them, then vampires must have a reflection.



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i was going to start walking around town with a mirror to find a vamp and you killed that for me now im going to go back to reality and say yes the can see them selfs in a mirror or they are not looking at one gatta love the movies (no im not a vamp) but that whole light refraction thing might work for them ????????sorry about the spelling



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Yep they do have reflections and unfortunatly can be seen in pictures...

Although lately my pictures have been comging out blurred but only me, I had a group photo and only me in the whole photo was blurred well out of 5photos taken of the same pose..strange..



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Whilest I always had a reflection whenever i look, and i know that others can see said reflection as well, there have been a couple of occations where i did not show up in pictures that were taken, funny thing is is that i warned then that i dont show up on film jokingly as i did not wish my pic taken.



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Of course a vampyre can see his/her complexion, their not ghosts or spirits you know.



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I do believe that a vampire in thought of mythology can not see his reflection and niether can anyone else when he comes into a mirror or a camera. But in fact for the ones of us who knows that we are what we are. We have the ability to see ourselves in the mirror or the photo. We also have to think that the way they perceive us in the olden years. We as well as I knot that only the true vampire has the ability of both but just not the knowledge of both.



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There are thousands of people on here who have pictures so what does that tell ya?? Either they can, or they aren't vampires...Hmmmmmmmm



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Industrialized2Hate
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I swear...some people as some of the most retarded question. but i guess they can't help it.



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i think that vamps would have a reflection...



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AmaliaKaterena
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The "Vampires have no Reflection" is an old wise tale that movies and books have made up. I do believe Vampires have complections.



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Industrialized2Hate
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Just to get everyone on the right track...even in the movies a vampire had a complection. there complection was pale. Now if you want to talk reflection. Ok, in the some movies Vampire didn't cast a reflection. Not all movies were as so. Some movies showed that they did cast a reflection. Now if your talking in real life. yes The studies show that Vampires of the modern day do cast a refkection.



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heh...cool...yeah...i was wondering when someone was gonna say it...



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Industrialized2Hate
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well i was getting a little tired of hearing complection used in the wronge sense.



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whoa i am losing it...i don't even remember posting that last thing...weird...i think it may be time for a nap...but i'm gonna stay...



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Industrialized2Hate
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Well I think this thread has served it's perpose for me...time to go on to the next one and see what i can say in them.



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yeah same here...um bye ya'll i know i didn't contribute much but i learned a lot...thanx



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deathnitegrl
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Ha yes actually the word complextion means the colour of your skin.However it's not always pale in real life.The pale skin is another myth.



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deathnitegrl
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The actual word was reflection am glad some people used it.



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well... the 'vampire who doesn't reflect in a mirror' is a typical myth figure mentioned in several books... but lets be realistic, if you're solid... if people can touch you... then light reflects off you.... thus you are reflected in a mirror.



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well the thing about not seeing their reflection is based on fantasy in reality a vampire can see his reflection at least this vamp can lol



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Industrialized2Hate
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Yes I think we pretty much covered all that. But thanks for the refreshers :D



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pasty and pale



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Since when do you have to have a soul to show up in a mirror? I would never get my contacts in if that was true.



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ashdude
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lets be honest people..do any of us actually care if a vampire can be seen in a mirror...infact does any body care if vampires are real..tell me im intrested to know



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lary4rock
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as long as vampires have bodies, thay can see their reflexion



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If there were such things as vampires, then yes, they would have a reflection, and you could take their picture. They're a body, somewhat living, and if there's something there, than it can be seen. Even ghosts can be seen with the right lighting.



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I guess we care ash or else why would e be here?



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Yes I care. I totally refuse to let Hollywood win!!!



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10 to Billy!



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Thank You m'Lady. ;)



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You're Welcome:D



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Industrialized2Hate
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when did this become the ten thread.


and since when did having a soul mean having a reflection. stones are soules...you stick a mirror up to them...i can pretty much garantee they have a refelction. even a dead body has a refelction.....believe or not..it's true,



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I agree with Industrialized2Hate and the light and reflection belief. I don't see how a Vampire's reflection would not show up on a mirror. And about the complextion part, not all Vampires are pale. They can be any complextion, it does not matter.



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LadyNarvinye
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We have bodies don't we? Therefore, it stands to reason that we would have a reflection. All a mirror can do is to reflect the objects in front of it.



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Industrialized2Hate
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exactly...what concept of that can't people understand?



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I can't believe I have some how missed this intellectual thread. Vampires do have a reflection in the mirror the same as humans.



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