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MeleenaMel
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Why are bad boys so atractive? I mean Vampires are so atractive! Take Bella and Edward! What is it about buttmunches that is so hot!? I mean I must have problems because I love Jeff the Killer! Why is a dangerous things the girls like? Why are vampires so "hot"?




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I like reading about vampires, sure. But you can damn sure bet I'd never be all gaga over one. That's signing a death warrant right there. I also don't consider Twilight "vampires" as actual vampires. So that's out.
As for dating bad boys... It's been proven that most people seek partners who have most of the same characteristics as their own parents. That's why you see abused girls with daddy issues dating jerks and making excuses to stay with the guy beating them half to death. It's what they know and deviating from the familiar scares them.
On the other hand you've got spoiled rich girls looking for a little adrenaline rush. They think that by dating the "bad boy" they're getting back at their parents for forcing such a wonderful yet dull life on them. The only women of sound mind I've found are already married to the loves of their lives and have a wonderful happy family.
Show me a woman dating a bad boy for thrills or whatever the like and I'll show you an immature Girl who shouldn't be in a relationship in the first place.



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Keep in mind that there always exceptions to the general rules. Not all girls fit in to either category.



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I think the subject goes both ways, Ive know plenty of guys that were into completely unsuitable females or males as the case may have it.

I think theres a buried part in all of us that seeks out or is attracted to danger/mystery ect. Maybe its part of the way we were raised or maybe its because a part of us may be calling out to what we want to be.

Either way, I believe we all have those skeletons in our closet that makes us choose to "live on the wild side" from time to time.



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I agree that it's on both sides but she asked specifically about females so that's how I answered. Didn't mean to make it sound like I was calling anyone out.



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Sometimes it's fun and exciting and adrenaline feels great, dating bad people is just one way if getting it.

Some girls think they can change him and when it fails they think maybe the next one is different.

Some do do it just to rebel against their parents ways and show them they are independent, grown up and do what they want.

Vampires are commonly said to have seductive powers to get women, some want immortality and eternal youth and will do what they have to to get it.



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Women recognise "bad boys" as the Alpha Male in human, female psychology. Strong, fearless, powerful, and prepared for anything. This, to them, is the perfect mate, as such a man would be perfect to protect her and her children. She does not have to concern over his ability or durability, both are amazing to her, and thus, he is the "Alpha Male", the greatest mate when compared to others.



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Why is a dangerous things the girls like?
Why are vampires so "hot"?

I think some fall for the creepy guys because their not creepy to them. Others do it for the predictable behavior of what they consider the "bad boy." Bad boys are generally considered attractive because of that element of unknown, wildness, and intrigue they supposedly have to them. If you are asking why dangerous things are what girls like, it would depend on the girl. Ask a hundred different immature girls and you'd probably get similiar answers as to the reasons they'd gotten into the relationship - which usually isn't much of one at all. Vampires are usually considered "hot" because they are idolized as such.

Personally, as a girl, I think creepy guys can sometimes end up being one of the nicest guys as can be. Bad boys aren't attractive unless they have a good personality beneath their rough behavior. Just because someone is "bad" doesn't necessarily mean that's their true self. Dangerous things might not be necessarily what you like but part of the consequences of your choice to be with that person. Vampires are "hot" because you find them attractive in some way - whether appearance or otherwise.


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If we look at this through a psychological aspect, we can say that maybe a woman or a man chooses to date people that are not of the best character because they have low self esteem. They feel, either consciously or subconsciously, that they do not deserve to have someone better so they stay in the relationship, or continue to go towards men and women like that that are dangerous to them, whether physically or emotionally.



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Either it's the "birds-of-a-feather" paradigm (creepy attracts creepy) or else it is stupidity. I mean, come on now. How great a provider, protector, father or companion is a gangbanger (the ultimate "bad boy")?

Seems to me women being attracted to "bad boys" is as idiotic and ill-informed as men being attracted to loose women, likewise thinking them to be the perfect mates. In both cases, wow! Are they ever in for a rude awakening!



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I better respond to this one. My cool ladies like bad boys, Myself one of them, is because they feel secured and protected, if danger arise. Yes, some time the other side are cute and probably got money, but, they don't want to engage into a fight because fear of being punch. As vampire. Remember the legend, Vampire offer eternity and who don't want to live forever. There are millions of difference between the Vampire of today and the ones from yesterday.



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I don't think it is the vampires that are hot nor the bad guys.

It's just what society deems is hot.

Look at the show Teen Wolf. Apparently all the guys in the show are teen heart throbs whether they are the bad or good guys.

Plus, it all depends on each persons view of what hot is.

Someone could think that Edward from Twilight is the hottest man on earth, while another hopes he burns up in dog shit and gets ran over.



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It's stuff that me as a female can't get, like girls going to the public toilet together. This liking the bad guy thing is indeed common. I don't know, maybe it's the thrill of getting someone impossible to get. Maybe the pride of making him love her. Maybe it's an attraction that happens to be common. I'd choose the good guy over a 100 bad guys.



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In America the public restroom is a place to hang out and gossip, it's a private place to talk to someone and spend time together so we often take a friend.

It depends what you consider bad and what a woman likes in a man, my former friend who isn't on here "loves" her boyfriend even though he's dating another girl she knows about. He's probably not going to stop cheating on her anytime soon and he's even blown her off to be with this other girl; the reason why she refuses to break up with him is far beyond me.

I've also realized that some people need to be with someone no matter what to maintain happiness, maybe bad guys are their last resort because no decent guy wants to be with them.



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Very true. I know people that are relationship dependant. Like someone else already mentioned, it's low self esteem. I also agree with the person that said it's the both sexes. Nowadays the rebel girls are the most popular because they are considered as 'easy.'



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When in a relationship the brain produces all sorts of happy, good chemicals, some people rely on those to maintain a normal level of happiness because for whatever reason they don't produce enough on their own.

Even if it's not much of a relationship at all if the person thinks it is their brain produces those chemicals which they so greatly desire.



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if your in a cave and feel hungry the guy who goes out with a club or something and comes back with a dead aimal is going to be attractive



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I have met some creepy guys that were supposed to be good guys
as for bad boys dated them and rather date them then the good guys I have dated as they treated me a lot better
vampires well if they were like the ones from Twilight sorry not into them same with the weres
but if they were from the books by Christine Warren J.R. Ward Amanda Ashley Lynsay Sands Sherrilyn Kenyon and others yeah I will date them if they showed interest in me

It depends on your definition of a bad boy, creep as everyone's different
Some called me a good girl and others a bad girl



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One of the elements os psychopathic people is aqn uncanny charisma, they tend to calculate just what people want to hear.. even though they are not sincere when they say it. So any girl/woman is apt to fall for it.. at least one time.. and unless she learns from her error.. she will repeat her folly.



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whats your definition of creepy ?



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Creepy is about raising the bar on impulsive, and creative ways to be deviant, it implies perversion of scruples. To some there is a primal attraction to such "taboo" behavior. A bad boy (deviant) provides a means to act out.



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So such 'good' things mentioned. And yes I understand the chemical happiness but, is it really worth it? To me being relationship dependant is a sign of depression. I'm not a psychologist but jeeze to date a creepy one just not to be alone ... And how about prisoners receiving love letters? Wtf? Is all worth the danger, do they realize they'll be out and dating them?



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My two cents..

Not all "bad boys" are bad guys..



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David Hume's Essays, Moral and Political, 1742, include:

"Beauty in things exists merely in the mind which contemplates them."

And also, In Molly Bawn, 1878, there's the line "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder".

All things in life are subject to our unique interpretation.



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Doru, I don't believe the "creepy" guy's physical appearance is really the issue here.



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Regardless, we all view the world through our eyes and fail to see the faults others see or choose to see.



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Yes, it's all Perceptions. Though I strongly believe that there is always more than what meets the eye.

Also, there is this Law of Attraction. Like a bee to nectar. Except this may not be a sweet and pleasant thing to be doing here. We are mirrors in our societies. We reflect what is being shown to us. We mirror back what we become. If I have something dark in me, I would be attracted to dark places, or to people fascinated by the dark. It's all the law of attraction, I'd think.



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Most of us have a bit of dark in us...the desire to act selfishly, to give in to darker desires regardless the consequences. Hopefully, though, we have enough light and intelligence to think and reconsider. However, those ruled by their selfishness and impulses, their desires at the sacrifice of higher thinking and values, do not. Thus, by following attraction for such lower-thinking persons, we become less able to think and act responsibly...and become, ourselves, more like them.

To my way of thinking, this is not the Law of Attraction...unless we seek excuse to let the dark in us overpower the light and simply seek a companion who has already done the same as an accomplice.

Problem is, of course, that such darker companions, being more wholly motivated by such greater depths of selfishness, end up treating their relationships just as self-servingly as they do the rest of their victims.



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True, Upir. That would be more of a character flaw than anything else, I'd say. Ultimately everyone has to make decisions in their lives; sometimes difficult ones. And when it comes to Emotions, that would be tricky enough! We're all victims of circumstances in a way.



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Not sure, the same could be said for why are guys into the seductive vixen types, the likes on the cover of mens magazines, hardly the girl next door type, or a good girl.

I think it must have something to do with an inner desire to free oneself from normal convention, and by dating somebody who is the extreme opposite of that, they are somehow doing the same. Just a thought :)



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because some women like a challenge or often to rebel against what their parents want them to do



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I belive its the thrill and ofcourse the romanitics that they get if they can win his heart..



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Sometimes it pays off to take a chance on someone.

Sometimes you get your heart run over by a bus.



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I just think it's smart to hold off on expensive purchases and keep your own homes and refrain from doing anything you can't easily recover from until you feel they show you their true colors and aren't deceiving you



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Hmmmm... Maybe I should try being creepy! o.O



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No good, they see right through that. Bad boys have no compunction against using unscrupulous means to draw prospects in.



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Of course every now and then there are repercussions for bending, or amending the bad boy relationship as parents for example. here is one example of a family that catered to their daughters bod boy relationship.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmville_murders



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I personally think it's the adrenaline rush to be honest... they make you feel bad but alive.



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This is what eHarmony had to stay about it.

http://www.eharmony.com/dating-advice/dating/4-reasons-women-are-attracted-to-bad-boys/#.UgGQ1qwmaJs


1. The impulse to perpetuate what’s familiar.
Many women attracted to rogues had a father who was a little wild and rebellious. Because many girls idealize their father, they may seek a partner with similar traits. This usually isn’t a conscious decision; much of the allure happens below the level of awareness. Girls may also choose these boys on the assumption that Dad will be impressed.

2. The urge to redo the father-daughter relationship.
The motivation is an attempt to revise a troubled or distant relationship with their dad. Often, attraction is fueled by unmet childhood needs from the opposite-sex parent. So if a woman chooses someone reminiscent of her father, her motivation may be to remedy childhood hurts.

3. The drive to rehabilitate or “save” a wayward man.
Simply put, many women are rescuers. It’s a challenge for them to reform an incorrigible man. These women think, Sure, he gets into trouble, but I can change him! Ego is involved as well. It’s inflating when a woman feels like she is the only one who can transform a man.

4. The appetite for adventure.
Other women like the excitement, thrills, and sense of danger bad boys bring. This is especially true for those who have been “good girls” all their lives. Perhaps they grew up in a family that demanded conformity and compliance with rules. So they’re intrigued with men who scoff at rules and shrug off responsibility.

How do these relationships usually turn out? In a word, poorly. That’s because bad boys won’t change unless they want to—no matter how long-suffering their partner might be. Further, despite initial attraction, most women get tired of bailing a man out of jail, wondering if he’ll make it home from a party, or catching him with another woman. Women who sign on with bad boys enlist for endless conflict and turmoil. Ironically, the very thing that draws good girls and bad boys together is usually their undoing. Many women have learned the hard way that bad boys make bad dating partners–and even worse spouses.



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Have to make another separate comment. With vampires it is the thrill of a life and death situation. In many of the popular movies and series shows, the vampires are very attractive and they have the lure of being intimate with women so it is in my mind the rush one gets from challenging death and the allure of forbidden romance. Kind of like walking around the edge of a high building, an adrenaline rush.



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I'd much rather a gentleman than a bad boy. Bad boys are overrated.



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Last thing I EVER want in my husband is a recreation of my father. I'd rather be stabbed, shot and left for dead than be with a man who even remotely resembles him.

The fascination of it is unpredictable moments that otherwise would never come to reality with a mundane man. Untamable flame. Of sorts.



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I don't know as they are always creepy exactly but more going down a path of their own perhaps. I have been around both and I have to say there is never a dull moment with the bad boy types. BUT most times it ends up in a very unhappy situation. Maybe I'm just jaded.



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who says a good guy can't be adventurous?

they can take you to do fun and adrenaline rushing things just like bad boys, only usually it's legal with them



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Lol true. And it also depends on how 'vanilla' the man is too. But that's another thread entirely.



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It is mostly due to our hard wiring as women, rather than simple personal preff., On an subconscious level, women seek out men who would be the best protctor and provider. In this day and age, behaviours have changed from ancient times, where dominate
And agressive behaviours meant better survival rates, better chances of taking over or finding resources, stronger get (children) etc...
In other words, its just
ancient survival mechanisms still at work .Genetic memory, if you will.



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Creepy guys and bad boys are two completely different kinds of guy.... Which would you like input on? O.o



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Hollywood and the public eye are interesting things. Vampyres gain attention for their 'Immortality' and the basis of man's more "taboo" thoughts, which lead into the concept of what Hollywood describes as "love", which makes everything look purely listing and demeaning in some ways.

Jeff the killer is an enigma, created by a story teller, through a YouTube channel. He's a psychotic murderer, who is afflicted with "self-love", brought on by a twisted combination of dementia, and hatred of everything and everyone around him. He's essentially nothing more than the "badass" that a teenage girl wants to see as her 'elusive' boyfriend, who has a soft spot only for her.

Hence, Hollywood and the public eye. People are never satisfied with the truth in anything, unless it's something that can be explicitly determined as fantasy or the "dark prince charming", even if one side can be proven in fact, whilst the other can't.



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The forbidden fruit. People are often attracted to what is dark and forbidden. Some of them may even have a darker side to themselves that they don't share with everyone.



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Some people, both men and women have this attraction to danger, and this is what the other person represents.



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I believe, from my experience of dating a large share of creeps, that were just naturally curious from time to time. Something small about it allures us, until we just get too creeped out to handle it. That's my opinion.



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21:53:27 Aug 20 2013
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the sense of adventure of course, would the world not be a boring place if everything was normal and peachy keen? naww screw that i want it wild and unique!



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00:34:12 Aug 21 2013
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people are attracted to the unknown and different no matter how bad it is

things like burning buildings, hostage situations, and tragic accidents often draw a crowd of spectators

why would bad or creepy people be treated any differently?



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22:32:58 Aug 21 2013
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I've been reading everyone's replies,and it appears the majority, feel it is more of a conscious attraction and preference.
Here are some examples of why I am brought my reasoning as stated in my prior post. I did remove the list of credentials to shorten the example but the article in full can be found on the epjournal.

Original article:

Evolutionary Psychology 

ABSTRACT

Many studies have reported that during high fertility points in the menstrual cycle, women demonstrate increased preference for men with masculinized faces and bodies. In this study, we analyzed whether appetitive aggression in men serves as an additional signal for a favored partner choice. Appetitive aggression describes the intrinsic motivation to act violently even when not being threatened. This study evaluated the responses of 1212 women to one of four descriptions regarding a soldier´s experience after returning from war. The four vignettes included trauma related symptoms with high or low appetitive aggression, or no trauma related symptoms with high or low appetitive aggression. Participants rated their desirability for the soldier in regards to potential long-term and short-term relationships. Results indicate that women preferred a soldier high in appetitive aggression as a short-term mate but not as a long-term relationship. This preference for the “warrior” was higher for women in their fertile window of the menstrual cycle. We conclude that women in their fertile window prefer men exhibiting higher appetitive aggression as a short-term partner, revealing appetitive aggression in men may serve as a signal for a higher genetic fitness.


The Biology of Attraction is interesting reading on the subject too. It talks about love maps and other biological reasons we like badd boizzzz



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03:17:09 Aug 23 2013
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to me the science of attraction is simple

the main reason we have those feelings is ultimately to reproduce so if you base almost everything around that you're pretty much good



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