I know I have several threads open already. Here's another one to add to the list. I look forward to your views.
What is Synchronicity?
"Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events as meaningfully related, where they are unlikely to be causally related. The subject sees it as a meaningful coincidence. The concept of synchronicity was first described by Carl Jung, a Swiss psychologist, in the 1920s.
The concept does not question, or compete with, the notion of causality. Instead, it maintains that just as events may be connected by a causal line, they may also be connected by meaning. A grouping of events by meaning need not have an explanation in terms of a concrete sense of cause and effect."
~ Wikipedia
Do you believe in coincidences? Some people like myself tend to read and explore possible meanings into certain things that happen in our lives. Do you think everything happens for a reason, or is it really a product of cause and effect? Do our choices really hold so much weight that they require Divine Intervention?
Is it something beyond our forces or do things happen because we WILL them to happen?
Has anything strange and coincident-like happen to you? What happened as a result? It could be bumping into someone unexpectedly, seeing the same numbers over and over again, hearing the same phrases from several people in close encounters, someone mentioning the person you were thinking about, thinking where is that someone when they appear out of nowhere, having someone answering a question that you never voiced aloud, winning the lottery, coming into some cash unexpectedly on the pavement while taking a stroll, wishing for a movie to be telecasted when they decide to broadcast it via the television and so on.
Do you read the signs or do you just brush them off?
I guess what I am asking is this:
Is the Universe really trying to send us signals to help us in our lives? What do you think?
I believe that the Universe has a way of throwing small bits into our life so that we will sway on to paths, depending on which choices we make.
Life gives you opportunities and these crazy coincidences so that you will take them.. I've learned even the smallest opportunity life throws at you can make a meaningful impact.
I maintain that we are the sum of our actions or inaction to random encounters, and events.
As far a coincidence yea I seriously like when I have those, but they are just that coincidences.Perhaps it is just a result of being in a relatively small demographic sample, and having fixed routines.
I don't know, but certain things that happen to me make me ponder.
I tend to think of people and I see them after a long time, or receive a call.
I tend to meet people who had a busy and/or bad day the same day as mine.
Also I meet people tend I tend to find we have similar experiences.
I don't know if maybe people with their mind and energies share information.
A good film that adds a little humour to this theory is Stranger than Fiction.
I watched with interest an experiment with David Tennant (Dr Who) and Derren Brown, the way a group of random people make assumptions that certain events are connected.
In this case a group of fish were monitored in a fish tank, and every time they passed a line a red light would illuminate in the groups room.
The group believed the lights were a key to exiting the room, the group moved objects around the room to solve this puzzle.
The lights were in fact random movements of the fish, completely random, there was no pattern and yet the humans within the room were convinced their actions created this synchronicity.
This, unfortunately, has nothing to do with true Prediction. Which is far nore akin to the series "True Detective"
I cannot answer anything more until you have watched series one, and hopefully understood, then, perhaps then, you will understand science is an amoeba in a far larger Pond.
I also found this interesting. An example how people profit on the assumptions of others that what, and how they do a certain act is what gives them an award.. or lose.
http://www.goodmagic.com/websales/midway/razzle.htm
You choose your own destiny,its called free will.Everything happens for a reason,though sometimes things might happen to you,call-it- deja vu,or call it chance,it doesnt have to mean anything except the power you put in it,but then it might be truth in it,but life's a wonderful mystery,Peace Elviscat
I read something in a book, and it said that Tarot can be a form of synchronicity, because there is something deep within yourself that causes you to be drawn to picking a specific card, which is like cause and effect on how the cards come out.
There is a greater force out there, but man does not like to be reminded of this greater force. I believe such things happen for a set reason. We meet the people we meet for a reason, things stick out to us more than others for a reason, there is a reason for everything. These events take place to help us grow as people weather we choose to take it as a positive or a negative thing thats all on us.
While there are certainly Universal Laws. There are no Universal Laws that the universe has to be concerned with anything in existence. Be assured the universe is not sentient. Consider how egotistical it is to presume that a vast expanse dusted with masses of cosmic debris. Its is the same as proponent of Astrology.
When a person really examines how random things happen, and how our actions, or lack of action initiate our next options, choices, courses and decisions. Occasionally, or in more routine (predetermined activity , or inactivity) frequently two, or more entities, or objects sync up in a repeating or familiar event. No Universal Laws designates that these events will or won't happen.
Oh also. Addressing the occasional case of thinking of someone and they call shortly afterward, or thinking "where has so and so been?" and they show up. While these things happen, and we notice them when they do. We are not likely to consciously tally the cases we think of someone, and they don't show up, or there is no call shortly after thinking of someone. In some cases the time a person calls is generally routine. In this case the subconscious mind is more likely to be triggered to initiate the thought.
She asked what you believe but there is no unequivocal right answer. I wrote a long article on synchronicity in 2007 and it was interesting but really nothing definitive.
I used a quote in the beginning that was:
ONCE IS COINCIDENCE, TWICE IS CHANCE AND THE THIRD TIME IS A PATTERN 1.
1. http://microisvjournal.wordpress.com/2006/09/10/once-is-chance-twice-is-coincidence-third-time-is-a-pattern/
What was on this site at the time is now gone except the phrase. I liked it so I used it as a heading along with this quote:
There is no such thing as chance; and what seem to us merest accident, springs from the deepest source of destiny.
Friedrich Schiller (1759 - 1805)
Jung wrote this:
The principle of synchronicity is based on the concept that everything in the universe has some kind of correspondence one to the other. There is a "classical idea of the sympathy of all things." There is a link, there is a bond, so to speak, and even so-called inanimate objects have a form of communication. In other words the whole universe is a living breathing entity and its various life forms, in all the kingdoms (animal, plant, mineral, human, etc.) are not as removed from each other as previously thought. In support of Hippocrates, Carl Jung said: "The universal principle is found even in the smallest particle, which therefore corresponds to the whole."( Synchronicity, An Acausal Connecting Principle, by C G Jung, pg. 74.)
Another person wrote this:
Is there a scientific theory to support synchronicity?
"... They are finding that the isolation and separation of objects from each other is more apparent than real; at deeper levels, everything —atoms, cells, molecules, plants, animals, people — participates in a sensitive, flowing web of information. Physicists have shown, for example, that if two photons are separated, no matter by how far, a change in one creates a simultaneous change in the other."
(From: A Wink From the Cosmos by Meg Lundstrom www.flowpower.com/synchro.htm, a version of this appeared in Intuition Magazine, May-June 1996 pg.1) 3
There are a number of people who have ideas that deal with this concept. I personally think that it's by our own choices that some things seem like they are purely by chance. I had an experience and I don't believe it was chance. The odds were so great and I have mentioned it in the forum in the past. I think it is both things. Some things that happen are because of chance in my opinion. Sort of that in the right place at the wrong or right time (never could get that one right) and other times I believe there is something leaning towards happening for a very concrete reason. That's when you really get into the idea of metaphysics because I don't think you can explain it scientifically but many try to explain everything that way but it is the known science. Whose to say what we will know 200 or a 1000 years from now. But for now this idea is purely speculative and depends on personal belief. I personally don't know. I vacillate on this one.
I am a very analytical person with terrible writing skills.
When I noticed strange events and coincidences I sat down and started to do the math, using the probability of such events. I have a math IQ of 132+
When I got to several million to one I told my wife and we went through the stats together. She is my rock and I think we are a great "Moulder and Scully"
Just for the record Scully is now a believer. You know her as Princessa Scarlett 5th + generation witch (for reals) Her ancestor Kathrin was drowned in the river Severn in 1535 in Shropshire.
Sorry to the scientists but more things are afoot than we know or understand, one day I hope our anscetors read this and say...
"Be careful in this life, for you know not what you do..."
I do not believe in coincidence, however synchronicity does exist, howbeit but by intelligent design. A day in the life of Silverhawk:
On one occasion, a Good Friday, everyone was asleep in the house, except for me. I was writing and reading. It was an early, quite morning when the phone rang. A woman on the other end, was asking whether anyone from my number had called her. She had just hung up from a strange call with some static on the other end and my number showed up on her caller id. I assured the woman that no one had called her as I was the only one up and everyone in the house was asleep. She thanked me and hung up.
The phone ringing woke up my Aunt, who came into the living room to ask who it was that had called. I told her, I did not know but told her the name listed on our caller id and related the bizarre details of the encounter. My aunt nearly fell out and she took the phone and called the woman back.
The woman who received a call from my house, not physically by anyone known, was the former teacher and mentor for my Aunt's deceased daughter (4 years at the time) when she as alive. Jolynn, my Aunt's daughter, had Down's Syndrome and lived to be 40 years old before passing away. This lady was very dear to both Jolynn and my Aunt. My Aunt had been unable to find this lady by phone or address since she had moved away, to even let her know to attend Jolynn's funeral.
Now...who called this woman who lived several states away, at an unknown address, unknown phone number while everyone was asleep but me. I know I didn't call her. Yet a reunion was created between long time friends that had lost complete touch with one another since before the passing of the one child, Jolynn, who connected them both during life.
Coincidence? I think not.
If something is connected by "meaning", as the description you provided claims, then it means absolutely nothing.
"Meaning", outside of strict definitions, is pretty subjective and is only a construct of the minds of the individual(s) involved.
I've always loved Greek and Roman architecture. I happen to live near Nashville, TN which has a full-scale replica of the Greek Parthenon. To me, it's a pleasant coincidence and makes me enjoy where I live all the more. However, it doesn't actually mean anything outside of the meaning I give it. In other words, there is no connection or interlink except by a totally artificial personal meaning that I impart on it.
Fuzzy warm feelings aren't exactly a strong, provable, and true connection between events or objects. And because of that, pointless to anyone other than the person(s) having them.
Fuzzy, warm feelings? I assure you, there were none involved when my own house called this strange person I had no clue of. It was an instance that became meaningful to my Aunt but initially, the experience was, in appearance an completely mundane instance of wrong number. I don't know about you, but I'm not too sure of how many sentient houses there are that call other people out of the blue. It is a example given simply as it happened, nothing more and nothing less. If you get a warm, fuzzy feeling because of it, great, don't say I never gave you anything.
FARGO- a true story, a religious man finds a million dollars
builds up a corrupt Empire
accidentally hires a religious hit-man
is blackmailed by blood and locusts,
He returns the million dollars to appease the gods.
The Gods rain fish upon his sons car, who is killed.
The religious hitman gets away from the Police and other hitmen,
as if he is "protected"
The religious man finds his own son dead in the car crash, during the Storm of the century.
The truth is the Fbi overlooked the obvious sub-plot that the whole town including the Police were corrupt. Hence all the wierd coincidences, they might wanna take another look at that Town.
( bear with me will try yo english my tuagh as best as I can)
I beleive in coincidence and also in things happen for a reason, and also in "karma" or like the nuns use ot say: when you spit in the air is always comes back in your face, or what goes around comes around
Still I also beleive that there is coincidences, shit happens as some say, its not always the "work of the gods or other deity"
If you don,t tie your shoe laces and you trip because you walk on it, don't blame anyone else but yourself lol you just trip and it has nothing to do with any godliek being, it was your own fault :p
But on the other end I've seen things in my life that made me realise that there is also some "outside work" existing, I came across some people that normally I would never have meet, it only happened because something forced me to change the road I was driving on or the restaurant I had plan on eating at or the place I was supose to go to or the job I chose to change to, all things the just happended.
I beleive that for everything there is a reason, it can be our own blond moment like with the shoe laces or the univers ( or other god like beleif) that had plans for us and is making the path for us to go to it.
I do not believe in coincidence. I think everything happens for a reason. Our actions and choices are often the reason for the things that happen in our lives.
Many preface their answers with I don't believe or I do believe and that is you answer as to whether its coincidence, synchronicity or any other name. It's based on belief and not facts or science because at present there is no way to quantify it.
Arthur Koestler also wrote extensively on synchronicity in the Roots of Coincidence. Gonna check it when I can find a digital copy.
The visible Universe is a bunch of intertwined threads that bounce off each other and obey basic rules. Most importantly when complex matter touches other complex matter it leaves a memory.
The Dark Verse is the counter balance that introduces random stuff and does the all Chaos stuff. Breaking these Twines.
This is why equations break down. Why marriages break down?
Now there's an interesting concept.
I have the belief that you create your own reality. Thus every thought that you think of often (desires) must manifest in your reality. For me a few synchronicities have occurred recently for example my desk chair broke and I didn't want to spend money on a new one so the universe provided. When I was coming home from my german course I saw a practically new desk chair by some bunkers (mind you in Germany people throw out practically new stuff that they don't need anymore but the things aren't destroyed so that others who do need them can just take them) and I took it of course. Another one is that I recently fell in love with books and I want to start my new library. Sometimes I find old books on the street that have been thrown out or find really cheap books at the market for example yesterday I bought 20 books for 4 euro.
Many other things have happened as well but it would take too long to write so Bis dan.