Can someone please explain the difference between a ghost and a Poltergeists ? It seems a Poltergeists is considered to be evil. Is this always the case?
i donno, but, mabye a goust is good and the other thing is evil?
like witchs and warlocks.
Well,ok...A ghost has less agression and energy to do things ..such as a poltergeist
can do.
A ghost..can have the same temper or evil as
a poltergeist.
A ghost is usually one that doesnt know
how to moove on to the afterlife or is earthbound.Poltergiest..Dont want to moove on..of many reasons..usually cause it has
a need to stay.
First, bloodtaintedstars, a "warlock" is an oath-breaker.
Second, the difference between a ghost and a poltergeist is that a poltergeist usually announces it's pressence with
disorder ( knocking and generally causing a fuss). A ghost, on the other hand, is the spirit of a person and can be good or bad, ghosts usually stay where they did in life.
the difference between a ghot and poltergiest is the energy they posses or use. natural energy is what either a ghost or poltergiest uses to manifest themselves. a ghost in itself does not hold as many particles of energy as a poltergiest uses.
a ghost is generally one that haunts a certain area or certain people only letting themselves known is sight and sometimes sound and movement. a poltergiest on the other hand is a more powerfull entity. it has energy enough to move objects, show full apparition and make very clear and loud sounds. plus a poltergiest can and will follow a person as long as the energies that it posseses is powerfull enough.
OK, well, that was well said GT..............
Almost exactly what I was going to say, till i read yours...........
LOL
I'm guessing it's a diffence between why they are 'still on earth' and there energy and what they are able to do...
I could be way off here, but I have heard before that a poltergeist can often be a child due to the mischievous/playful nature. Such as moving things, hidings things, laughter that is heard, etc. Please correct me if I am wrong.
So far i agree with what has been said.
A ghost is the energy of a soul that has left behind, its imprint.
A poltergeist is the violent manifestation of that imprint which causes harm to the environment around it.
A ghost can become a poltergeist, but a poultergeist is an emotionally charged ghost, so it wouldn't fall under the benign manifestation that would be "ghost haunting"
Ghosts are said to be the spiritual remnants of those who died with unfinished business, or under extreme circumstances, such as a suicide.
Poltergeists (which is German for 'noisy ghost) are commonly believed, by those who do believe in such things, to be uncontrolled telekenetic phenomena manifested by adolescents, usually (but not always) females.
ok good info here ty ..
so does this mean that all Poltergeists are bad?
they lack the means to express calmly, lashing out at the physical world. effecting it according to desire which has kept the imprint around.
such as hatred for a murder or rape
for the most part yes. but there are some that just play around and try to scare you. but there has been cases of things such as cups and glasses thrown from countertops and cuppbaords and hitting a person. or things like pictures flung off the walls. so yes most are and can be considered dangerous.
Infernal said almost all of it, one thing, a poltergeist can also be created by a living, by the living's own energy and emotion, strong and raw emtion, lik ein the American Hunting movie, it is base on a true story, and that was a poltergeist.
those are the irratating ones that need to be put in boxes then stored in the freezer and brought and defrosted for haunted houses and the like...or being mutated and grafted into holiday tree topers or what have you.....then put back into the freezer for the next year....
great fun at parties. annoying day to day
I saw the movie the entity which was pretty freaky when i found out it was based on a true story.
so they are attracted to a person rather than a place and can follow someone if they move?
yes they can MysticMoon. they can follow the person or thing that gives them thier energy.
Yes the follow a person or the emotion imprint of the person like in the movie at the end it followed a today girl
oh wow
so what then attracts a Poltergeists to one person ?
there are many many things that feed a poltergiest its energy. anything from alot of stress in a person, to ( as gross as this sounds) but a woman on thier period can attract them as well. a distressed teenager, or a conflict in energies. that is just some of the triggers.
This is known as a classic case of poltergeist activity, which occurred in December 1716 at the Parsonage in Epworth, Lincolnshire. All members of the Wesley family heard loud rappings and noises over a period of two months. Sometimes the noises were of a specific character, according to the well-kept notes of Mrs. Wesley. During one incident when she and her husband were descending the stairs one day they heard a noise as if someone was emptying a large bag of coins at their feet. This was followed by the sound of glass bottles being "dashed to a thousand pieces." Other sounds heard were running footsteps, groans, and a door latch being lifted several times.
The Epworth Poltergeist case is regarded one of the best documented in the annals of British psychical research, but no satisfactory explanation has been forthcoming. A.G.H.
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that is some very interesting information kwilil. thank you very much for sharing that and have peaked my interest in checking some of the older archives myself :) thank you
I think there have been a lot of good answers to this post. Very informative.
Personally I think it basically boils down to two major differences. One is involvement with the living and the pysical world which poltergiests do to a larger extent then your average garden variety ghost. Two that poltergiests are not always the energy of the dead but can be manifestations of energy created consciously or unconsciously by the living.
no. a ghost and poltergiest are two totally different entities :)
so to confirm what ur saying BloodSymphony that its possibel for someone to create this form of energy themselves.
How is this possible?
well it is said that in some cases that scientists had narrowed it down to telekentic energy that the person posseses without them having knoweledge that they have it themselves :)
Poltergiests are a manifestation of a young person. Usually under 20. Its an unknown psychic phenomenon. They person has no idea they are doing it. They aren't something that had a soul they were never living. They are generally bad natured and hot tempered.
Ghosts are spirits of people who've passed. They can do things poltergiests can, but were at one point living.
Poltergeists are not always evil they are just restless spirits that, like small children get into thing and because people fear the unknown they consider that as evil.
I always understood that a poltergeist had more energy and was therefore able to manifest itself better or at least more forcefully than a ghost.
Want simple?
Only differance - Noise.
Poltergeist in German is Noisy Ghost. Thats it, thats all.
ok so if they are usually young.. then why is there so much aggression connected to them?
My understanding was a Ghost was the remanence of a spirit, the Poltergist on the other hand is when the spirit is in limbo and has not passed to the other side, for what ever reason, they seem evil due to frustration of not passing over...
Its not so much that the youngster is aggressive, more the fact that a youngster going through pubery has so many raging hormones and pent-up energy that poltergeists are more attracted to them because of that.
Ghosts tend to be unreactive to the physical world, and for the most part are unaware of us.
both of these above seem very reasonable and possible explantions .. ty
they arent always EVIL more so troublesome. i delt with one when i was younger. and it didnt try to harm me just get me in trouble as an older brother might
Everything i have ever heard about poltergeist is that they take and feed off of negative energy, and i do not think ghost do or atleast as much...
Poltergeists always seem to have a negative energy related to them or at least thats what impression is common about them. Ghosts are just spirits.
Poltergeists have a tendency to have a very negative energy and aggressive nature, whereas ghosts are moreso passive and just "exist" without particular reason...Poltergeists are usually the result of a violent death, tortured childhood, etc.
Happily I have never met up with a poltergeist.
I have heard that they are normally attracted to teenagers or people going through times of great stress.
Having no direct experience with one it's difficult to form an opinion....and difficult to get away for the horror film depiction.
Well..
Poltergeist are on the same line as Jinx, they can effect you or your environment.
Ghosts just sneak up on you and scare the ba-jeebers outta ya, but can't actually do anything.
::looks over shoulder::
Ok if my memory serves me correctly a ghost is an entity that can be seen, heard and sometimes felt, but has little substance.
A poltergist is a malignant entity that feeds off the energy of those unfortunate enough to encounter one. The more energy they recieve the more powerful they are. It is noted that in a lot of poltergist incidents a teen was present. So the entity fed off the teens emotional instability.
As I see it, a poltergeist is a restless spirit. A ghost, on the other hand, is simply an entity bound to a certain level (normally closest to our own plane).
However, to touch base with the person above me... :) When children reach puberty, there are often times stories accounted of "otherwordly" behavoir that happens around them when their mood is in at any type of extreme (especailly when angry or sad). This is because not only do they attract spirits, but they are unable to control not only hormones but their energy. The human mind is a very powerful thing, if you really put your mind to something i can in fact be done, even if it is not of the concious mind.
well I do not believe in Ghost I believe that they are just spirits, and poltergist are enities that usually collect live off of energy whether it be negative or positive. at least that is how I believe it to be yet, hey I am not a scientist or medium or any of the things that have a better knowledge of these things.
I just know that I have not ever had an encounter with an evil Spirit (ghost, if you want.) and I have had encounters with them... so I guess I will just have to wait and see if any evil ones come lookin for me ..LOL. just my opinion is all.
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They are both the same thing..... It was posted earlier..... the only difference is one "loud or noisy" . Ghost, spirit, poltergeist, doesn't matter what you call it, its the same thing......
I think the only difference between a ghost and poltergeist is that a poltergeist is more evil or malignant and therefore has more strength and power.
And poltergeists tend to choose victims and stick to them. Did anyone ever watch the entity? I think that is a good story about a malignant poltergeist.
Basically sometimes it is peoples psychic energy that causes the disturbances that are labeled as poltergiests. As another person said some people (especially during their teen years) may not have control, thus unconscious. I was merely saying that it is not always the energy of the dead that composes a poltergiest as opposed to a ghost which I have never heard of being anything but the spirit of the dead. Sorry if I was unclear.
Ghost - Spirit of a dead person.
Poltergeist - Noisy ghost, or, ghost who can manipulate the physical world, and does so, often, and frequently, for a variety of reasons.
so could it be said that the energy a poltergeist feeds off is fear?
the difference between a ghost and poltergiest is the energy they posses or use.
A ghost is one that haunts a place of liking or something of that sort.
A polertergiest is that it's a very powerful energy, has power to show full figure, and can make things move around in a home.
I thought that a poltergeist was created by negative energy, and that a ghost was the spirit of someone who has died...
poltergiest have the abillity to move things..more energy
Poltergeist is a term used for a destructive or active spirit. One that moves things or can manifest enough energy to cause things to happen.
an answer to your question MM, no its not fear that it drives its energy from but anything that can have any kind of energy be it positive or negative. it just depends on how strong the poltergiest is and or wants to be.
then if a poltergiest feeds of possitive or negative energy.. what does a ghost "feed off" and why is it that only certain people can see them yet others cant?
MysticMoon,
A ghost feeds of of different energies as well.. but for the most part they are fed off by the better energies. in which they dont gather enough energy to form a full apparition, but in some cases one does see a full apparition in which is rare.
and the reasoning that some people can see them and others can not i think is the idea of being open to the idea. not hat one actually looks for them but like a child, they see these things all the time because there mind is totally open to learn and see everything for what it is and try to learn about it. so i think it has alot to do with being open to the subject and and sometimes there are those with gifts that allow this too. :)
Some people are more plugged in and therefore are like recievers..open to waves of energy coming in...more aware of what other's call parallel worlds. I wish I knew more about it to give you a better answer or explanation...it's a good subject no doubt.
Is it possible to open your mind to see ghosts.? If so how?
i do beleive that one can open thier minds to see these things. it does take time and pure openess to aquire the trait. its not something that is learned but something attained .. :)
in my opinion
Ghost I read are pieces remaining of a soul which is not ready to leave the Eartly realm, whereas a poltergeist is an manevolent spirit bent on causing havoc
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa102901b.htm
The above link might be of some interest to some of you. It has a list of live "ghostcams" as well as a way to set up a camera in your own home and possibly detect a ghost. Happy hunting :)
My pleasure. I'll post again if I find anything else of interest.
Its in the meaning isnt it? The word is from germany, i think it consist's of the words Ghost and evil..in german...something like that, wikipedia it
i thnk the german meaning is noisy ghost...that may be something else too :)
so is there something other than ghosts and poltergiest that can enter a dwelling ?
yes there is MysticMoon. actually a demon can come into a dwelling and inhabit its walls and people in the dwelling. they can also make the people in the house either scared to death or hurt them and badly.
wow.. i didnt know that...
so is a demon attracted to the same energy a poltergiest is?
a ghost doesnt have the power to do alot except minor haunting the other is more playful or harmful depending on the type you have
no.. not at all.. a demon does not thrive on and energy existance.. they come actually on no open invite. in alot of cases of demons, the people have no ida where it come from and no idea as to why it was there. they have no certain set off point. but can show up at any given time.
so ur saying a demon entering a home or a person is a random occurance and could happen to anyone?
yes.. that is exactly what im saying MysticMoon. they have no intent on invite or being let in.. if they want to come they will :)
According to my word web dictionary a poltergeist is:
A ghost that announces its presence with rapping and the creation of disorder
And a ghost is:
1. A mental representation of some haunting experience
2. The visible disembodied soul of a dead person
Poltergiests are the ones who make things move around in a violent way..... they are said to be very pissed off/ jealous spirits and their intention is to do bodily harm. They can't seem to move on.
Ghosts are those who have remained here with people to finish their business and then move on....
I don't think all of them are evil and intend harm, I think they are trying to get peoples attention but there is a gap in communication and they are taken the wrong way.... (that doesn't go for all just a few cause the rest are resentful of humans)
wow a very interesting thread i never knew that demons could just come in your house like that that kinda freaks me out. and poltogheist are very much like pesks can come in after you have done magick to i have had some before. ghost are different some are are good and some really nasty at times mine you really dont hear that much once in awhile they like to let ya know they are hear. They usally turn off my tv and sometimes lights but luckly i have not had any bad ones i hope i dont. i would like to know about how you know demons aare in your house because i have seen one in my bedroom before about a year ago.
Poltergeists are supposed to be the things that can move objects around. Many people believe them to be just strange energy fluxuations or something.
They are different from normal spirits or ghosts, they're not any more evil, they can just interfere on a physical level.
thats a good question eternaldarkness1..
How you know demons are in your house?
there are ways of telling. now some of the signs will also go with the signs of a poltergiest depending on the poltergiest. for one there is a really bad unpleasant smell and only at certain times. another one is , that the demon is in the house for a reason so it may be inflicting some one in the house. but you will start seeing really dark shadow like things at times even during the daytime. but the one thing most known about a demon is the smell. and you will also know when a person has one in thier house when you feel a change to yourself as well. it may not be much of one but one would begin at getting snappy and for no reason. these are just some of the things to look for.
No. A poltergeist is usually considered the "trickster" of the types of spirits. Some may think they're evil because they don't understand it. But they more of doing it a joking around to them. A ghost is more of a general category for all the different types in my opinion.
wow that is scary and mystic thanx i dont know if it still is here or not but seeing itat the end of my bed really scared the hell outta me.
eternaldarkness1
that would most definately be a scary sight. but i would like to know if you knew for a fact this was a demon or some other entity? tell us exactly what you saw and how it made you feel when you noticed it there.
well it was about a yr ago and i was asleep when i felt a presence in my room very cold and just gave me the chills i woke up and seen a horned creature staring at me whisper something i couldnt make out then i screamed and it went away.
that does sound like it could of been a demon. i personaly thank you for sharing that with us :)
i also have heard very strange voices to it scared me so much i woke up dead out of sleep one time they kept saying in different voices get out and some i couldnt make out it didnt make any sence to me.