So I have a Question for everyone here, there is many on this site who talk about Vampiric Culture, but how many people actually live a Vampiric way of life?
That may depend on your definition of a Vampiric way of life.
NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE WHO THIS APPLIES TO.
i dont think many ppl. on this site do. i myself dont in all honesty, but i dont claim to. now i do think that some ppl. do, but in the world we live in today i think it would be very hard.
AGAIN PLEASE DONT TAKE OFFENSE. IM NOT CALLING YOU POSERS. BUT REALLY BE HONEST.
I agree with you Invisible, it would be difficult to live that life style in this time period, although possible.
I am in agreeance with wolfsbohne, what would your stereotype of vampire culture be?
what exactly is a vampiric lifestyle? .. would it not be any lifestyle a vampire opted to live?
I do my damnest not to be up or out in the day more from the fact my hubby works nights... and that whole sunburn from hell thing.
I do not wear black all the time ( ok maybe 90% of the time.. but its more cause it matches everything lol)
yes I drink blood as often as I can.
I go horseback riding and hiking as much as I can. I read alot. uumm spend time with my friends and family.
does this define vampire lifestyle?... I believe it does as I am a vampire and tis the lifestyle I choose to live.
I don't live a vampiric lifestyle because I don't make any claims of BEING a vampire...
Sure I have an account on Vampire Rave...this in itself should not be taken as an intimation that my reasons for being here are to be recognized as one...
And I personally don't think you HAVE TO be a vampire to be a member of VR...I've read the VR Manual and nowhere does it say that this site is ONLY for Vampires...
too often I believe people assume all that are vampires sleep in coffins are "goth" and all that and its simply not true. Just like any other group of people we lead different lives. From what i have seen and learned we are a very diverse group of people. ( laffs for Goddess sake I listen to country music alot.. can not get much more ungoth than that lol)
well i agree with both of you. but there are some ppl. here who have claimed things and after talking with them it be came evident that they lied. so i agree you dont have to be a vampire to have an account, but at the same time you shouldnt lie about it and claim to be what you are not.
Priss - I don't think Invisible was saying everyone had to claim to be Vampires on here. I think what she was getting at was those who do claim they are, may not really be what they claim to be. Those are the "posers".
Everyone is on VR for their own reasons...
Leave them their illusions hun..;)
Vampires have little if anything to do with the "goth" culture. True that most adore the darker colors, but I know quite a few who wear regular clothes, such as truckers, lawyers, business persons etc. You do not have to be "goth" to be "vampiric".
If you wish to be artistic and dawn vampiric wardrobe, then more power to you. The odd looks you get your way, well it comes with the territory. Attitude, persona or whathaveyou, even the way you speak...Like adding the words tis, sire, my lord/lady..ect., may be involved, but are childish in my opinion.
It all rather depends on the individual. As the culture is a very diverse one at that.
I personally do not think that the majority of people anywhere can live the Vampire lifestyle, mainly because it would be to difficult to stay away from the sun, at some point in a persons life they would have to go out into the sun or if they did not have any blood to drink ect. or atleast that is if a person was living the lifestyle of a vampire like in the dracula novel...
i understand that this is a touchy subject and i am deeply sorry if offended anyone. what i said was not meant to hurt or cause offense in any way. once again i am sorry.
note to anyone responding: be respectful to others opinions. fight could start, this is a very touchy subject for some.
Necrokid...howz about we ask...
By what means, methods or behaviors do you live your definition of a vampiric lifestyle?
And what is your definition of a vampiric lifestyle?
Yes?
the way i see it is this any lifestyle we choice to live can be a vampire lifestyle if you are a vampire and u live a certain way then that is to that person a vampire lifestyle. and not to start any arguments but vampires dont burst into flames if they are in the sunlight. it will give them a worse sunburn than "normal people" and for some that i know it gives them a headache to stay out in it for to long.
I opened this topic to see how people would respond, there was no particular reaction that I wished to see, I was just hoping someone would respond, in which someone did, and it started a rather interesting debate =]
Vampiric Culture? You mean like Buffy? Or possibly Angel? The question is a little vague, so if you could elaborate a little more, I could give a better answer.
Most would find it somewhat difficult to life the Vampire lifestyle 24/7, but I'm sure some try, and are even very successful at it. The problem in my mind is where would you find doner?
As for sleeping arangements, are you speaking traditional, or modern? The thought of sleeping in a coffin sounds rather......ghoulish to me LOL!.
There are a lot of people who prefer the night here. Could be vampiric, could also be adolescence.
The bloodsucking, or rather bloodtasting, is another matter. That, I think, is the ultimate qualifier.
If you agree, and setting aside the sex and blood aspect so deeply, roundly and exhaustively covered, then I think a successful vampiric lifestyle would require money, and lots of it.
I like to think I've moved beyond adolescence but still prefer the night. I definitely have more energy then. Unfortunately - life ties require me to be more functional during the day. As for the sun thing - I burn very easily, but that could be from being Irish. I also have a tendency towards anemia, but then I've never really felt a draw towards drinking anyone else's blood.
I don't think I'm a vampire, nor would I care to live that lifestyle. Rather ironic, don't you think? A dead man living.
I'm not a vampire and therefore do not live a vampiric lifestyle.
It's impossible if you're not a vampire. Unless, that is, you're in some sticky mess with vampires.
I try to avoid the term "undead" but vampires are in a special class re. that. Not really dead and rotting, and with their special vampiric endowments, it's almost as if they're living bigger, better lives than most humans.
I agree with Gaius..There are plenty of ways One can live the Vampiric Lifestyles..Doesnt mean They believe They are a higher form, it is a way of life to Them..Doesnt mean they think they can turn someone or anything like that
I know that some do, others try to blend with humans...
I think that there is no set culture so no matter how a person chooses to live if they decide to say they are living the lifestyle they would be.
ok first to me my life is a vampires life I love the night and black I send as much time as I can outside doing things I work days only cause I have to....and yes I am a vampire but not sangs I am a psy..
second wat maes you goth? if it's wearing all black as most pl seem to tink now a days ten I must be cause I wear black almost all te time.
i personally have never claimed to be a vampire, i came here be cause alot of the community of the arts is here, i have several freinds that do and share my beliefs , but like a few others we all wear plain clothes and work for a government agency. so i would have to say that some people claim to not be as they are because it gives them a chance to escape their reality, its like that saying i am famous on myspace.
Vampiric Culture no, Gothic I used to, but as
stated in the "above" post I have several friends here that share the same beliefs and follow the same traditions as I do. And it a great way to meet others that share the same beliefs.
In my opinion I think that people here on vr are allowed to live the way they choose and no one should discrimanate against any one for there beliefs, to each is own...
All are very valid points,
there is no one set life style to a vampire,
the more modern times calls for a rather discrete way to show if you believe of the vampiric life style. It was a rather vague question for the reason that it was supposed to start a discussion, in which it did it's job.
i know a few vampires around here and some are gothic and wear all black, i like to wear all black just because i like it, but i know others that don't, one guy comes to the meetings dressed in a suit and another in boots and a cowboy hat. but i have seen the type that wear the old frilled shirts and black top hat, vampires just wear what they like if it's a suit they wear that or maybe they like to dress up like the old gothic cloths just a matter of tast for that person.
Very true, all it is is a personal preference to how and what you live. I you wish to call yourself a vampire, and claim to live a vampiric lifestyle, then you may very well be living a vampiric lifestyle, it's how you choose to live.
I think the problem lies in the defination of Vampiric lifestyle ... every one defines it in a different way ... it just depends on how you want to live.
As stated several times the vampiric culture varies with your view on vampires and your own interpretation of what their culture is or should be. The vamps will view it differently than the posers, the lovers of fiction even more differently. And even within the various divisions you will find disagreement and debate.
Well even within the different debates within the norms and different sub genres
True, and I think debate and disagreement, an opportunity to hear other views is a healthy thing. God knows this would be a boring world if we all agreed.
If we all agreed,
especially dealing with vampiric culture,
then there would be no reason to search further for truths that may not be uncovered.
I am in no way,shape,or form a vampire...lol But have always found them exciting. So came to Vampire Rave to further my studies on them and learn from other's and I am learning so much exciting stuff it's great. I do not live the culture but if given the chance too, I would have to say I would in a heartbeat!
This topic is rather interesting in comparison with others I have read and responded on. There are a great many difference which would need be resolved before deciding on a definitive "culture." Albeit facinating I feel that image has been "colored" by Hollywood, and the true culture is however we ultimately choose to survive. After all not all are rich, and most of us acculate what wealth we have through the course of time, thereby as time marches we are allowed more comforts such as homes on multiple continents, boats, and better transportation. In the end however the culture is not as clear as the end grain it is however what defines the person.
I have to agree with you. Like I said in an earlier post, there is no set culture, it is just how we envision what we live to be the vampiric culture and way of life
I don't claim to live any kind of 'vampiric lifestyle', however I do like to stay outside at night because the night time is beautiful to me. I like to freak people out with blood, I've tasted it, but would never harm someone else for it. (on purpose anyway) But I agree with Invisible, it would be very hard and exhausting to try to live up to the lifestyle of a vampire in this time period, and I don't think that many people on this website do, I just think that they have a deep fasination with vampires and the mistic lore behind it.
well for the most part i shun the evil day ball. i usually wake in the evening i dont mix with other well---at all. but i dont take from others either. so i guess i dont.
I mean just because you thrive at night, enjoy the taste of blood, and are drawn to the darker side of humanity, is that what people classify as vampiric culture/lifestyle?
I have to say there have probably been more truly honest intelligent responses on this thread than on most I have seen. And more true discussion. Not everybody had to agree, but they didn't have to get nasty to disagree. This has been a really great post/response.
I only claim that which I live and thats both as a vamp and as a sadist in the BDsM lifestyle oh and pagan...as for the discremanation I agree but real life doesn't work that way most ppl don't know about anything but my pagan ways
Although many people do believe the pagan acts as some, such as myself, people carry out as vampiric, again we are faced with what do we think is the vampiric culture?
I consider it like this I combine my pagan ways with my vamp ways and my life in te BDsM life style and enjoy te best of all three
I don't believe one can class what a Vampiric lifestyle is...It is up to the person who lives it.
But if you are talking about the Hollywood sterotypical modern age Vampiric lifestyle, then no I don not live that way, as I could not possibly go to a different underground rave everynight...
How one defines this lifestyle is up to them and there for that is their Vampiric lifestyle
The Hollywood vampiric lifestyle doesn't count, I don't think that anyone could uphold that lifestyle that the movies portray.
A Vampiric parson by definition seems to be different for most people on here. So I am thinking that how I may view living it is not how some others may view it. Some may see it far more extreme than I, and others far less. There are aspects of it that I do not mind showing and then others that I really do not see a reason to show to someone that may not be interested in it as I am. Not that I care what they think of me. Just seems pointless to even take in the effort to explain or define.
I just enjoy vampires, but I am far from living any sort of lifestyle close to it. Work has been picky with the dress code, coming in dressed as a vampire would be a quick ticket out the door and on my way to unemployment. I even had a job once where my boss asked me to stop wearing black tshirts too much because he thought I was scaring the customers.
The stereotype on vampiric fashion sense is all black all the time..
I mostly qualify in that category.
Also, I'd rather be outside at night then during the day.
But of course life doesn't permit me to stay inside all day, so I don't.
I drink blood.
I don't, however, sleep in a coffin or anything of the sort.
Do I qualify?
To me, I've always looked at sang., and psi. vampires as something like a diabetic. Regular people whose bodies are in need of a particular substance to sustain a healthy way of life. Not any particular clique.
But if you wear all black, indulge yourself in blood, thrive in the night, does that make you a vampire? Are the stereotypical views of the vampiric ways true?
I wear mostly black, I only move outside during the day when forced, and I do love the taste of blood. you don't have to sleep in a coffin to be a vampire, you don't even have to dress a certain way in my opinion, does that make my view wrong compared to someone else's who views that being a vampire is how Hollywood idealizes us?
I used to live the vampiric life stlye hard core never coming out the day blood drinking the whole nine yard yet times have changed and so must I.
I don't think vampires should stay out of the light. it doen't harm us. so why avoid it?
I still don`t understand the exact purpose of this thread.
An unwritten law of journalism states that vague question recieve vague answers. So please restrain your question area of responses.
You should start by defining the "vampiric culture" term.
I have never claimed to live a vampiric lifestyle at all. I do tend to stay up all night and sleep all day with black out curtains on my windows but that is about it for me.
I think it is easiest to try and categorize everything in to nice little lables, but like most of things in life this system may not be the best one.
I sunburn to a lobster at the slightest hint of sun I prefer the night time, I have on occasion drank blood; does this make me a vampyre. I do not drink blood on a regular basis and I enjoy laying out in the sun to get a tan... be it fleeting. Does this mean I am not a vampyre.
As I said it is easy to categorize, but this never does justice to what is being labelled. No instead we should understand that there is no set stereotype for vampyres like hollywood creates, so for now I'll just go on being myself.
A 40 something recusitated corpse with a fear of those anual doctor's visits to see why I am still here...
I live a pretty normal life to be honest. Vampirism is a very small part of what I am:)
To be honest,
the point of this was to be vague,
the vague questions always get the best answers.
But as I have heard from many journalists,
there is truth in fiction.
I was simply asking who was living a vampiric lifestyle, that was open to interpretation.
I think the closest to living the life would just be my work habbits, I have worked the third shift for the past eight years. The only time I see the sun is if I go to the lake.
There are probably some people who honestly try to live what they feel is a Vampiric lifestyle.
But who are we to judge what that is?
Afterall are we not trying to break down stereotypes?
Yes and no,
there is kind of a hidden point,
I was trying to find what people thought was the vampiric lifestyle.
is there a difference in those who call them selves vampires and those who call them selves goths for both historys on goths and vampires are quite different then in history to today
i dont claim to be vampire or live the life style (unless you consider staying up all night, wearing sunglasses inside and on gloomy days, or prefering dark rooms traits or actions of what a vampire would do in this time) i just find the mythology and lore of vampires very intriging. so here i am...not to mention i've meet a lot of kick ass cool people on this site
Goth and vampire are different, like it was stated, they have a different history. Yes everyone has parts of vampiric culture thrown into their lives without notice, but who embraces it?
i ask because those who say there vampires and those who say there goth, i mean goth and vampires are a bit different from historys compared to todays gothic and vampire culture some say are u a real goth are you a real vampire no one is a real goth, and no one is a real vampire CORRECT ? or am i wrong unlesss they are from the past and still liveing, alot of people say posers or what have you isnt everyone who claims to be a goth and claims to be a vampire arnt they all posers how can one call one a poser
I don't think the word poser is relevant to to whether or not you are a real vampire/goth.
i mean those who call out posers are one as well thow i just think its a bunch of bull :)
I feel very fortunate that I am able to live my vampiric lifestyle in relative ease. I am a goth so people are used to my appearance, plus I am active on the BDSM scene, where the vast majority of my donors come from.
I am not tied to a day job either, which is just wonderful for me.
So yes, I do follow a vampiric lifestyle.
Since I was 14 years old, so that is 14 years, ooh how apt. Although, as I am sure you have heard many times, I was never exactly normal right from the word go...
has anyone had to go to rehab from this vampiric life stlye.. meaning how some go to rehab for drugs or alcohal
i try to live as close to the lifestyle as i can however in this day and time we have learned to adapt so it would depend on your version of the lifestyle and how far you wish to go back
I'm guessing he's talking about the actual life styles of the original Visigoths.
hm possibly but that could also go into the different subcultures.
Live the lifestyle of a vampire? I think that to live the lifestyle of a vampire you simply have to be yourself. I mean, there is no real definition of what a vampire is (unless you're talking about the mythical undead vampire), so basically...you can live what lifestyle you want and still be living the "lifestyle".
is there anyone here that lives totally for the night, works at night, shops at night, sleeps in a coffin, everything how a vampire would live ? or almost simular ?
I work at night, shop during the night, the only time I come out during the day is when I must go to school, I even sleep in a closet so I won't be disturbed during the light hours
Like Wolfsbohne first said...its does depend on your perception...but it also depends on what others think as well..something one person my think of as that lifestyle may not be the same as yours..
And to my experience few have actually called themselves "vampires" as invisible said...I myself neither claim or ever will claim to be a vampire.
No they rarely do, and I agree with you, what you think is a certain lifestyle someone else may not.
but it is a perception thing.
I would say it is a life style choice, as no one is bitten and turned into a vampire we decide to be this label not born this way unlike other things
Everybody lives differently, even vampires. You don't have to be all gothed out to live a vampiric lifestyle or follow any other of those stereotypes to live it either. Its like saying you can only be gay if you act flamboyantly. Theres no one way to live a vampiric lifestyle.
There have been some good posts in this thread. Some excellent, intelligent ones. A few, much less so. But, in the end, I think MoonRainbow1 nailed it, simply and to the point.
i dont live the life of a vampire nore drink blood but i am thou interested in the whole thing of vampires and thats why i am here and also to seek knowledge that vampirerave has to offer and also to make cool new friends as i have sence ive been here...