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BLOODLIFE
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Please watch this 2 minute...



If donors were not available, what would the vampire communities do?




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First thing I would like to point out is that just because you drink blood this does not make you a vampire... there have been many nuts over the years that have killed and claimed to be vampires... this does not mean they were or that vampires are insane killers looking for blood.

As much as I hate to agree with DH about anything he has a valid point that MOST of us are smart enough to keep whet we do within doors or in places it will be accepted.

Now your question as to what we would do if there were no donors... well I for one already know exctally how far I would go. I was forced to learn to feed as a psi vampire in order to deal with a lack of a blood donor. Would I hurt someone to get the blood/energy I need.. no never. I have allowed myself to become very ill to avoid harming another. For me is a questions of ethics .. I do not feed on blood nor energy without express permission.. yes that means I will not even feed off the ambient energy at a mall or a concert type of thing. It can and has made my life hard at times.. but it was how I was taught and how I believe you should behave



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FelineDraco~

so is the bottom line that you don't need blood to 'survive'



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Unless you're in a fictional world, you wouldn't need blood to survive.



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NiteMaire~

very good point. Lets say as an aperitif then!
The fact that it's drunk at all...........!!



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that ws a very good clip,, i dont need blood to survie, but i wonder what would happen if there was ino more doners,, i hope not what happened to the 17 year old



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cryingmoon~

apparently there were more cases of kidnapping, but I didn't include these as the sources could not be verified and as 'FelineDraco' has said, not all who kidnap for this reason are vampires



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It seems that this question can really only be answered by those that need to consume blood to survive. Those who live a Vampiric lifestyle have no such need. They may have such cravings. But no real need. But the other question this really raises is What real reason do we have to ask this question? That like asking if you were stranded on a desolate rock with only other plainwreck survivors, and no other food, would you eat them to survive? I for one can say that I would without a doubt..Yes. Were I a Vampire of myth and legend that required the blood of others to survive? Yes. Slap a label on your ass that says buffet. Because tag you are it. A real Predatory creature does not consider such moral questions. Humans consider such questions. Only Humans are concerned with what they consider right and wrong. Survival has nothing to do with it.



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An interesting clip, and no doubt these things happen. But that doesn't make him a vampire. Just one more sicko, preying on victims. Another Dahmer, or Gilmore, or Gacy. Don't give these bastards credit for being paranormal, they are simply bloodthirsty criminals.



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OniKumo~

I guess we're lucky you're not a blood drinker then.
But I think it throws up a lot more than just a moral dilemma.



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interasting clip.... that guy tht harmed that girl is nothing more then a sick humanbeing.



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I totally agree, and also potentially damaging to the vampire communities that live respectfully.



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Yes but only for lifestyle. And that is really just other humans pretending to be more. Then it comes to terms of whether or not one could be happy being what they are if noone around them is the same way. There is always another means of getting blood. Be it animals or rare meat. The clip may put a bad spin on the mentality of the Vampire community. But really even the Community frowns on such behavior. Its like one muslim Terrorist ruins it for all the other peaceful ones. Whether the kidnapper was a Vampire or not. It casts us in a bad image. But then again that is what Hollywood does. And that is what so many who join the lifestyle try to romanticize without realizing it. But when face to face with what a Vampire of myth and legend is supposed to be and do. It is not a pretty or romantic thing. The kindnappers behavior in the clip is what I personally would expect from one who required blood to survive. But I doubt that is the truth of what he was. He probably was just some nut case feeding his sickness. But as for the Lifestylers, thier behavior is drastically different. But what backlash will the story on the clip have on the Community? Apparently not much considering it is from 1985.



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OniKumo~

yes, the clip is old, but I was more interested in the answers to the question, and its those answers that open a can of worms.
I did find a very recent story but I couldn't get it verified, infact I cant find it at all now as I was going to post it with a disclaimer.



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21:54:30 Dec 09 2007
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There will always be donors...

The clip is amusing and so is hollywood, no one can tell another he or she is not a vampire, do not be blinded by arrogance...

No matter what, there will always be small mined humanity and crazy people.



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Feeding off of the innocent is fine in the fantasy world which is where most of us are dwelling when here.
But if you have never seen a 9 year old with her hands wired behind her back and a plastic bag over her head and taped; if you have never witnessed a room full of people tied up and executed with bullets in the back of their heads; if you have never found a young wife, who obviously died pleading for her life to someone who was supposed to have loved her; then be very careful when you role play and try to convince others that your are who you profess to be. This not intentionally directed at anybody here, but we are not talking idea, or hypothesis, or theory here. We are talking about the real evil that real people perpetuate upon others.
Sorry for the rant.



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I abhor the acts described in this thread, however, the vampire community cannot be blamed for the sick actions of a few individuals, they alone are responsible for their actions.



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hmm I'm willing but to kidnap and harm someone is extremely sick as it has been pointed out,There are to many willing people out there to have to resort to what I just seen,it's just all to sad at what the some people in this world resort to and blame in on vamprism,own up to what you do,noone or nothing has control over the decisions people make expect you.



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Doru, you are correct. I believe coming from you it will mean more to some here than coming from me. Thank you.



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I'm glad that you all are morally in tune with your ethics but we're straying from the question!!



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The Vampire Community can not be blamed for the actions of some sick minded people who think they are Vampires.

I myself don't have to worry about how far I would go. With me being mostly Psi I have no problems finding the needed energy.



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If the bottom line question is, "do we need to feed on blood to survive, then the answer is no. That is the fantasy. The desire for blood or the addiction to blood would be a different question.



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sorry!! did you miss the question....it was under the clip.

"If donors were not available, what would the vampire communities do?"



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Though I mostly feed on energy I do drink blood as well. If I did not have a donor I would start eating the prison population.



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Bloodlife. The answer is really simple. Should there be no donors for the Vampiric lifestyle communities. Those communities would simply feed off of the other members of the Community. Blood from other Vampires.



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OniKumo~

I get that......but if vampires feed for energy......they would be no better off if they lose energy too.

So is it just the 'act' of feeding?!!!!!!!!!



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The question of this thread is imaginary, it can only exist in the imagination because there will "always" be donors and if there were not donors available a vampire could feed on his own blood to satisfy any such need. The thread is flawed because it is improbable.



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but then that undermines the fundamental needs of a vampire and the need for energy



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your own blood provides energy...



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Thats pretty fucked up. Lucky she got away. People shouldnt do things like that without consent in the first place. Its the same as rape to me.



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cows blood



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In my community, we never feed for the sake of feeding and everyone is taught discretion and control. The Elders are held responsible for the actions of their childer.



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You know this is messed up. Some whack job took a nineteen year old girl and practically killed her.

I do not need the blood of others to survive. Life is not a Bram Stoker or Anne Rice novel. Those who choose to drink human blood do not have to worry about attacking the unwilling. IF they do, they may be caught and find themselves in loads of trouble.



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That's way creepy.
That's pretty wrong to just drain her like that.
With permission, it would be a little different I geuss.



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Namir
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loita,

My point exactly. Those that consider themselves a Vampire in these modern times do not require the blood to survive. So lack of donors would only mean they either give up blood and find a new fad. Or they find other blood that they can consume. I.E. cow, pig, dog, ect.



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I believe that there will always be donors. How do these people know that this story is fact?



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DOG?!? lol. wtf?

lets stick to the idea of a cow or pig? lol



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okay first donors will always exist, no doubt in my mind, but lets say they dont, well there is always animal blood.

Plus taking unwilling would cause the total desagration and disapearence as it would make us the pray of all sorts of hunters to destroy no questions ask, and no second taugh.

So never force it, as the comunity will suffer for the small individuals who have no control over themselves.



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I don't normaly drink blood very often. I'm only part from family links. My mom's side of the family to be exact. When I need it and I have no doners I normaly can ignor the pain till I can find a doner.



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Interesting..I wanna meet some of you,though I



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clicked Enter and it sent that...You know if you drink more than a certain amount of Blood you will regurgitate,so I just really want to ask a few of you some questions if possible.



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I would NEVER hurt another person for anything. If they are not willing, I don't want them. I'll starve first.



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i would never ever go that far. i think more vampires woukd go more on the spirital level



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Hmmm, there is Vampirism, then there is kinkiness, then there is complete sicko.



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I think there will always be feeding altenatives such as psi and animal blood. That man was probably just a nut.



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Bloodlife , hello i watched your video and i am understanding whats going on in the world today.. it seems crazy and all but the guy talking in the video is right and its not fair..

also i posted in here earlier today and now some one had deleted it
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ok well im looking forward for this one to..but i hope not..



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Well neither cheese, nor pork meat are vital for the human beings either.But we still take the milk and kill the pig.


If the vampires won`t have donors they should pass to animals.
If the animals don`t consent to give their blood either... that would really be a problem LOL



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In this hypothetical question the way it is worded and with the idea that vampires need donors. The answer is simple. If you have no donors then you will have no vampires.

Now with the video added into it you bring in the idea that you are asking about willingness and unwillingness of donors. That brings in a whole new set of hypothetical situations and morality.

But as some have pointed out we do not "need" the blood or energy in order to survive as we are. Then that changes the answer to, we go on without the donors and do not take blood or energy.

But if people still wanted to live as vampires wouldn't it be logical to think that there would aslo be people that wanted to live as donors as well???



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Well, if the blood is not avalible in the usual way, well would invent a new usual way yeah?

Like blood cloning, yeah?

If you are dependent on blood, than you learn and establish the means, so you can clone the blood you need.

Pretty good, sterile, controled, and eventualy, understand how to produce even better blood, stronger one, wich will help your evolution in a faster and quality way.

Long live blood.



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well its a good thing the girl had lived. cause i would think a vampire would make sure ur dead..



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the way i viewed the video he says vampires dont kill any more .. they just have good donors ..

and i think that the other guy who kidnaped the girl was a jerk... those kind of people try to make the vampire socioty look bad thats all



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LuckDragon
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ya that guy was just crazy thats all.



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maybe this sounds violent but maybe some vampires ot to get ahold of him and drain his blood and let him watch it drain onto the ground ..



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LuckDragon
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ya right, and teach that guy a lesson.



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This is a very good reason why I do not let on to how I "feed". It is individuals like this that give a bad name to those of a partially respectable society.

Although DH is an absorbed advertisement, he has valid points. As well as the experiance to keep raps on the locations of said society.

No, you do not need a "Donor" to survive, nor do you need blood draw to sustain, it is a bit more than blood that the trueblood thrives for.



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It's great seeing such diverse alternatives. Some of you seem happy to abstain from drinking as an extreme to changing the source of the donor.
This really is throwing up more questions......
for those of you that are choosing animal blood, can anyone tell me if the same amount of 'energy' is consumed when feeding .... or will you need to consume more of an animals blood - or less?



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If I may follow up on certain posts...

Unfortunatly the so called masquerade has nothing at all to do with trueblood, this society finds it unorthodox to confuse RP with real life scenerios. Every individual is responsible for their own actions, no one has charge over any other, it is about independance.

No, there is no energy to be gained from your own blood, as it is your own, the energy is lost. Nothing to gain by draining yourself, save for loss of blood.

Whether it be human blood, or animal blood, blood is blood. Yes, there are certain types of blood...Scientifically from A to O, but this has little if anything to do with the energy basis. This once again goes into the old mythologies of how the vampire was born, borrowed from the vampire bat, the need to feed upon animals.

If you choose a lifestyle to where you wish to have a donor, more power to you, but this alone does not make you trueblood. There are difficulties in blood draw that require more than just a donor to choose from. Blood does not sustain any creature, save for the vampire bat itself, leaches and a couple of other creatures. Trueblood not being one of them.

My thoughts have been stated.



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By hook or by crook I have never gone without, though I do not hunger often. It seems before my hunger becomes a driving force someone always comes along who wants to be eaten. *grin*



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Even though, I respect Soulshroude's opinion, my opinion is some what different.

The dirinking of one's own blood is a common practice and is called autovampirism or clinically "Renfield's Syndrome". Nonetheless, because vampires eat and drink more than just blood ,your own blood provides energy. This practice is more of a comforting act than one of substance and is generally practiced by new sanguinarians, not established one's, yet when a donor is not available it restains the cravings.

All of this information is just my opinion and not intended to be stated as fact or for any real life situation, please accept or reject any information that I provide, it is up to you.



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Vampires need blood why dont they just get it from animals. Blood is blood



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Id have to dissagree with that statement, blood, at least to me, is not blood. I feed off only those that I have a deep connection with. More sexual than a nessesity. I would not however bite my cat, eww gross.

That clip is disturbing, obviously something wrong with that guy. I seriously doubt anyone with their head screwed on right would be capable of that.



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I think there will always be feeding altenatives such as psi and animal blood. That man was probably just a nut.



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i need blood



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I do not know of many vampires who "need" blood to "survive"...so I don't think that a lack of donors would ever REALLY be an issue. I personally can feed both ways (sang and psi) so it really wouldn't effect me much. I can't speak for others in our community though.

As far as that case (and any others like it), that was a sick person, who didn't understand what being a vampire really was. He took the fictional aspect and made it reality, in turn, making him a criminal.



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I am constantly amazed at the hell people do to others everyday. It truely makes me wonder what this world is coming to.



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i dunno if anyone posted this already since i kind of skiped all the posts but i think if there were no more donners more than one blood drinker would just loose it and go on a hunting spree of whatever he/she can get to satisfy hes/her need for blood...anyone agree?



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Wow, that clip is messed up, I would liken that to rape. I find it strange that he used a needle but he is obviously not alright in the head.

I think that the vampire community will always have a source to turn to even without donors. I don't practice the drinking of blood nor do I claim to be a vampire but I imagine with todays advances that they would have no problems finding an alternative. Violence? I'm sure there are some that would choose such a recourse, people are so varied...



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it is hard to say really but as it has been stated there are other ways to feed such as psi and such



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This is why I feed Psy.........people like this guy are just completely nuts..........



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well if there is ever a drought on donors i would gladly give , well at a price.



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I would have to agree thats it people like that that put the fear in people



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.......Ok.........
We need food and water just like everyone alive. The sun doesn't kill use ether, And driving a stake into a heart would kill anyone. Is there anything eles you would like to know about fact a fiction worlds???



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There are also other means of obtaining blood, and while I might not like it, other sources, although they are not as satisfying as human.

Cows blood can sufice for a while, although it lacks a certain something taste wise. I would avoid hog blood as it is unsuitable as a food source for vampires.

Also, for those who are in bloodlust, I could see knocking over a bloodbank if necessary! LOL



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What that guy did to that 19 y/o girl was plain wrong! Anyone who knows right from wrong would state that.

Ok so some have said if there were no donors move on to an animals blood. Well what would you do when all animals of this earth have been drank to death? No more animal blood. Vampires blood is dead or so it's said so would it really satiate a vampires hunger to drink the blood of another Vampire?

My answer to this question is feed off of energy of ppl. the elements around us, or if you are having a sexual encounter feed off of the sexual energy =]



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I am asanguinarian vampire. As far as donars go...say if they disappear I do keep my freezer fully stocked with animal meat. I definenately wouldn't go out hunting for victims much less killing. Don Henrie is some one I can relate to in the matter of his views on blood drinking. The other guy didn't seem to care for what concequences could accure for just picking people off the street not to metion the Black Viel Codex. Anyone can claim they are a vampire because they think it is the cool thng to do, but doesn't make them one. It is a lfe style be it psi vampires or sanguinarian. There are too many people who think that they can do whatever they want without concequences to themselves or others.



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I imagine that a lot of people would simply give up on blood altogether. While many of the people on here are very serious about their lifestyles, I know that a lot of 'vampires' are simply fad followers. The lifers would just get around it. The methods have been mentioned: psy energy, animal blood, their own blood, abstaining entirely, or becoming violent.

It doesn't particularly matter which method they would choose, since they don't literally need blood to survive. It's a mental need if anything, but not a physical one. Any illness or discomfort caused by that lack would have to be psychosomatic in nature. If it continued long enough, they'd simply be hospitalized until they could get the help they needed.

As for those who would turn to the more unpleasant methods, well there are already people like that around. Like them or not, they are part and parcel with the vampiric community as a whole. Every member follows the ideas of the fiction to some extent, these ones just follow it a bit to closely for comfort.

Although other members of the community might not want to be tarred with the same brush as these people, they also must accept that they have little choice in the matter. If they call themselves vampires, then no one else in the community has any right to refute that claim, nor is there any argument the community could make against them that could not also be turned back on themselves to refute their own claims to vampirism.

Simply put, the vampire community is diverse, and the people in it will always have different ways of dealing with the things that affect them. Each person has a different set of morals, beliefs, and ideas, and so there's no telling how each would react in a given situation until they have been put in it.



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If donors for vampires were not available, i must say, we might be in a little bit of trouble. This would mean that we would of course have to feed on people against thier will. and as i saw, that could lead to bad things.



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I don't all agree with that video. Vampires could be very sweet and sensual.



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Look out small animals :)



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even if there were no more donors i would never be able to hurt and capture an innocent person....



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Oh wow.
I think it really depends on the personality and morals of the vampire. Many are too considerate to ever harm an unwilling victim.
However, there are some really sick, sadistic people out there, which means there are also sick, sadistic vampires.

I think far too many people have a vampire fetish/fantasy for there ever to be a shortage of donors though, thankfully.



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He is not of the clan, he clearly is a nut



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HellaciousRose
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I expect that they'd start treating humans like cattle again :)



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Hi BloodLife your question is a very good one
I am no athority to speak onthe matter i am sorry i just wanted to say hi to everybody,! sorry..



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I don't take blood anymore, not since I married a man that doesn't really understand it. I was an extremely voracious feeder before we met. It can be extremely hard sometimes, but I find that if I manage my diet religiously well I can get through my days. It does take a regime of no junk food to speak of and a hell of a lot of vitamin and mineral supplements. If there were no more donors, I think vampires would be able to go on without the blood.



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I was hoping to evoke more responses from the question than the vid clip......

that clip is over 20 years old!!!!



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If donors were not available, the vampire communities would probably farm for suitable food. Sort of like ants and aphids, or humans and cows. It would be much safer than consuming tainted blood, or feeding on unsuspecting victims.



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Wolfsbohne~

when you say farm ... do you mean for human blood?



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id love to feed a hot femal vampire but they are all in america.



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catseye~

you've just been cursed by all the British and European vampires. lol



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When I say "farm", it could be for human blood but then that would mean you would need willing donors, so instead it would have to mean mindless drones who vampires would siphon from on a regular basis.



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Bloodlife sorry I was gone for awhile...

do I need it to survive... no I would live without it.. as I said I can feed off pure energy... but tis not the same.

I once explained the difference like this to a friend.

Energy is like those packets of hot chocolate you just add hot water too.

Blood is like taking chocolate and melting it and adding sugar and cream to make hot chocolate.

They are both warm and chocolate and to the job.. but one is a great deal better than the other.

Now for the question I see coming next.. can I survive without the energy... hhmm I suppose I would not die.. ok yeah I know I would not die... but I also know when I go without I end up very very ill to the point of being put in the hospital for "tests" IE my doc is clueless but needs to watch me lol. And after about 2 weeks without either I am.. less then pleasant to be around lol.



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sigh,who are they??



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FelineDraco~

no that wasn't the question I would ask -- it would be "can you survive without chocolate"? lol

if you get mood swings because of your deficiencies, I would argue its more of a habit than a necessary to survive



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I think it is also what's in the mind of the individual. There are some out there that believe they couldn't survive without blood..which puts into question their psyochological mind state. It still doesn't make it right to harm or kill others for it.



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lol not a vamp. but if i was , i know one thing no donors would suck , i would have to say i feel sorry for the rats but then again there are peeps out there who kill and harm children they would be my main coarse ...lol



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if i was a vampire like in the movies id start on the bankers and credit card company managers first



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oh god yeah I can live well without chocolate.. yeah I know they can take my female card away for this but... sighs I am not overly fond of it really lol.

its not so much mood swings as I just feel so damn sick and weak.. you know you feel after a bad case of the flu.. and your not sick anymore really but not really well either.. that just icky stage.. that is what happens to me and I tend to get... down right bitchy after about a week of feeling like that



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but you dont crave the feeding process throughout this......


more chokies for me



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This was interesting..To see how far some would go just to get what they think they need..It isnt that we need blood like that but it does add a certain sexuality to things..Perhaps the way Don spoke of it..But then again perhaps not



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