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LadyElectra
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00:54:22 May 09 2008
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Does anybody know if zombies are apart of vamperism and are they in the in same culture. Are vampires and zombies connected and if so how?




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I do not think they are. Maybe voodoo or hooloo, but not vampireism.



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The only connection that I know of it that they have both appeared in writings of fiction hundreds, if not thousands, of times.



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I don't think they have anything to due with each other except the fact they are both dead



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Generally speaking not really.

In some cultures such has with voo doo and other psuedo-african and some eastern cultures, you can get an interplay with the two.

Normaly a zombie is just a cursed souless being while a vampire is souless but can also take from others, zombies rarely attack.

Of course in popular culture the two are, at times, mixed together either out of ignorance of the real diference or because its fiction.



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they are too different a dead. vampires in the movies are raised during the night and die in the morrning, but zombies are just mindless things that don't feel pain. there are creepy, to me.



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zombie are normally associated with Voodoo or any kind of Black magic as it were.

Vampires are just that Vampires living dead that interacts with the living and feeds off them LOl as for the Zombie they are walking dead and wants to kill you and eat you LOL

I do not think that they are connected with Vampires.



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I dont think soo... vampires are lving dead with more to them. Zombies are like brain dead beings walking round.



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No connection that I know of. Zombies have been"created" by use of a mixture of herbs and other items with puffer fish poison as a main ingredient. It places the victim in a state that mimics death to most observers and then they are reawakened but kept in a drugged state so are actually controlled living people and not living dead as Hollywood portrays. Check out the book, "The Serpent and the Rainbow".



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Zombies are not psychic phenomena. Vampires are. You might go so far as to say that Zombies are a religious construct, but as their mindlessness denotes an absence of psychic ability...

Oops...
That's almost like saying sheep go to heaven and goats go to hell...

*smirk*



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The only similarity that I see is that they both like to feed on live victims.



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I dont think they are the same , The only thing that I can see they are the same of they are both dead and both feed on people, live things, It is hard to kill zombies.



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Fictionwise, they're both the animated dead, preferring to feed on live humans. Vampires suck, zombies chew. The one has more fashion sense, while the other definitely cultivates a lived-in/dead-in look. Many vampires read and learn, and are capable of lengthy soul-searching monologues, while zombies have no words whatsoever.



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I don't believe that any connection between vamps and zombies has been established before modern times through the release of fiction writings.

Many have touched on the obvious, which is the creation of the zombie through voodoo practices, which has been highly publicized in movies and books.

Also, the concept of the zombie was also a part of the beliefs during the Middle Ages. Known as a "revanant" this being was usually a being who became reanimated to take revenge.



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maybe vampires that sleep with relative vampires make little zombies, or they could be cousins from a removed family, which I think makes it necrophilia and incest.



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Not in my opinion. Zombies are usually portrayed as a dead being, that has risen again; It's still considered dead but living, has no brain function except for it's instict to kill and eat. But if you go with say, Resident Evils version, its much the same thing; But the start of that was through the T-Virus. 'Zombies' also have a basis in voodoo.

Vampires however, have many different explanations as to what they could be. It depends on the author of the story.



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If you actually go back to folklore, vampires were not the stylish, intelligent creatures that movies have led them to be. There were corpses that rose from the dead, and depending on the folklore, to feed upon or destory life. In the same token, zombies, except perhaps from a voodoo/hoodoo stand point, were shown from the same standpoint. Perhaps the connection is they really arent two separate beings, but the same creature depicted by two different folklores that have branched into two separate beings.



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In Interview, Louis and Claudia travel to Eastern Europe in their search for answers re. vampires. Sadly, they run into marauding "revenants," mindless vampires who have no sex appeal. Her description of them is very zombie-like.

Voodoo zombies are kind of boring, with that dazed look like they've been playing too many video games.



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05:46:03 May 09 2008
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necrop,

Your discussion of a less than romantic origin of the vampire goes along with many Middle Age discussions about beings that are undead and return via undead animation.

These would include wights, wraiths, and liches. All seem to have some origin of a human returning from the dead to do some ghasthly harm to the rest of humanity.



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Zombies are the reanimated corpses who are controled by a voodoo or hoodoo priest or priestess. Vampires have not been reanimated by anyone nor are they controled by anyone. There really is no connection between them



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Romantic or not, it is rather the more truthful nature. Vampires did not gain in popularity until Bram Stroker's Dracula, which many assume to have been based on Vlad III Dracula or his heritage, not upon actual folklore.



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Well they both feed of humans and have the ability to turn them into one of the undead. though there is alot of differences zombies are mindless creatures while vampires are cunning and have mystical powers



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Stories of Zombie came from the Afro-Carribean, and is a spirtiual belief system of Vodou..geez why not reaseach something a little before writing about it? This thread has potential to be very interesting....



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I don't think there is any connection between vampires and zombies,other than they are both in fiction and both are the dead brought back to life.



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I think a zombie ate the last two letters (R & E) of "are"...because I swear I typed them. I wish I could RE-type it. Oh well...here's a link to "The Federal Vampire & Zombie Agency" in the U.K.

http://www.fvza.org/agentsuk.html



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As already stated... zombies are decaying dead creatures who feed on humans. Vampires are sensual dead creatures who feed on humans in a different way.



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Sadly, there may be a connection between zombies and vampires, in much the same way as Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon man both walked upright. Perhaps the family tree split at some point, and zombies were left behind grunting, while vampires got all the babes.



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A zombie is thought to be brought about by voodoo or hoodoo as an reanimated corpse and have no speech or free will. While Middle age folklore has it that they were basically a dead corpse that has came back for revenge or to haunt someone that had done them wrong.

Now vampires are also dead but have free will and speech etc.....and are created by one another.

They are both the undead and really it all depends on which stories you choose to believe in ....



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In now way are they the same...Vampires feed primarily on people but can feed on anything that bleeds...zombies are generally portrayed as feeding only on human flesh.
Another difference is that vampires take something from their prey...their knowledge...zombies only take flesh.



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I believe the only link between them is they
both have the taste for Blood....Brains..ETC.

Also by both being a dead human corpse.



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10:33:59 May 10 2008
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Aside from both being overly hyped by Hollywood...I think the need for sustenance from human fluids is about the only similarity. A zombie is mindless, an animated corpse, whereas a vampire is, to all intents and purposes, 'alive' and aware of themselves and their surroundings.



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*Chuckles* Easy differance, you don't see the zombi trying to seduce someone with a mere gaze if its eyes, or the soft touch of its skin. Nor the warm embrace of a kiss.

On the other hand, you don't see the vampire moaning at all hours of the day and night, walking slowly or running after its food.

Easy differances me thinks.



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The first time I have seen or read a connection is the stories of Anita Blake, a raiser of zombies who happens to hand out wih vamps and lycanthropes.

But I think these collections are not based on established gistorical references, but rather a combining of many fantastic supernatural beings.



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no, they are not originally connected. originally there were vampires, frankenstein (who was not a zombie), and werewolves. now there is everything under the moon and sun.



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Zombies are creatures that are created by voodoo preists and used as slaves. Vampires are either born that way or are humans turned to vampires and treated like offspring I don't thing they have a connection



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Voodoo is a religion, and distinctly disparate from vampirism, which is more a state of Being.

Voodoo priests are reputed, through certain rituals, to bring the Dead back to life, and although some very interesting investigations into the culture, both via factual writings or of investigative documentary journalism, is, like certain other phenomena, 'unproven', so an open mind to this is a good idea, but still remains a fascinating possibility.

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