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AmeliaCorvenius
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When you first come to Vampire Rave you notice how many people there are, and its really quite amazing. But the more you get to know some people, you start to wonder, are they really vampires, is this actrually a vampire webpage? That question still remains in many of our heads. But when someone goes around saying that of this person is not a vampire and i am a vampire and so on and so on, we start to become naive and unsocial. Why should vampires live in secrecy and why shouldnt they be able to live umong mortals? But this I must ask of everyone, if you are not a vampire dont go around saying that you are one. It would be like me saying i'm president, when everyone knows that i'm not, and also dont pretend to be something your not. Everyone is beautiful in their own way, and pretending to be another person only lowers your selfesteem. So to all you people that want to be vampires and arent dont worry you arent missing anything. But the lies really need to stop, and if someone doesnt like you for who you are, then screw them.




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Well put, darling. Well put. However... this is the internet, and the people on this site are thousands of miles away from eachother..most of the time. The running thought with some of them is that "Gee, I'll never meet this person for real, so who cares?"
I, myself, have been known to do this uppon occasion. Sometimes, bluntly, I feel I am boring and just don't want to be me.
I get over that quickly though. I'm too normal to not be interesting, if that makes sense to anyone.
Unfortunatly, some people get so into the lie that they themselves begin to believe it, and when someone calls them on it... it shatters them. There are, rather unfortunatly, some souls like that here.
I take a lot of what I see with other people with a grain of salt (granted, the size of Texas in some cases...but taken none the less).
Everyone has their own thing to do with their personalities. Some are merely fascinated by the lives we lead. Other wish they could join us, but for some reason cannot. Others are one of us and wish they weren't....you get the idea.
Too many people are tempted by leading the life they WANT on the internet... as opposed to leading the life they HAVE.
It's confusing... however, decent, civil conversation can pick out who's who...

Ok, Ima shut up now....
*giggle*
~K~



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15:53:44 Nov 17 2004
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thank the goddess you posted this thread.
I see where your coming from sometimes i wonder am I a vampire or a poor dumb b£stard with no self esteem then I remember how blood tastes being energised by things that grow so i think yes i am.But even if i wasn't i would still be interested in vampires and this would be a perfect site 4 me but i suppose that it depends on who you are really and am lucky i suppose because i have a certain allergy to lying i can't do it so it don't matter if you are miles away am still tellin the truth lol



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Jason
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Are we talking vampire in the classic sense, or "I have tasted/drank blood and I like it so I'm a vampire"?

As much as I would love to live the roll I sometimes portray, here, I know, that each and every day I have to get up and face the light of day. And it does not, and will not immolate me. There's your classical vampire reality check.

But, the rollplay is fun, entertaining, exotic and enticing for us all. It's an escape. Like TV, computers, chocolate, McDonalds and comfort food. It's all good when taken in healthy doses.

This is a place of acceptance for those who feel "different." So long as the line between fantasy and reality stays think and firmly in place. In other words: Don't take yourself or anyone else, here, (except the Mods and Cancer, of course) too seriously.

Rave On!
PIE!



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16:14:36 Nov 17 2004
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Thanx jase you summed it up in 1 i think so bravo



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Khayman
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16:21:24 Nov 17 2004
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hehehe... may I offer some warm cookies? Maybe a glass of wine?....



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ChaosBleed
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16:25:51 Nov 17 2004
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Nope a pint and a kebab would'nt go amiss though



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Jason
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17:03:19 Nov 17 2004
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Maybe a schmoke and a pancake?



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Narakyndryn
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17:13:18 Nov 17 2004
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I also find it funny that people portray themselves in their screen names as being someone they are not. -That- is what really and truly 'gets my goat' so to speak.

I am what I am, and I won't deny that.
It goes for every part of who I am.



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pandora_23_2000
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04:56:32 Nov 18 2004
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How about a blunt and a blintz
Ok anywho the funny part is i am more me in here then i am everywhere else,except my nanna's house.There are just some places where it's not "proper" for me to be a evil,maniacal,opinionated bitch....Oh well screw proper MUWHAHAHAHA



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twilight_lex
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05:09:28 Nov 18 2004
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i agree jason.. i mean this place ive gotten to share thoughts and ideas with people who actully get them.. unlikey people at school who are more worried who likes who and what there wearing to school tomorrow.. and as for the screen name thing i got that cuz during the summer i sleep like a vampire.. upp alll night asleep all damn day.. and for some odd reason i always wake up at the twilight soo it stuck... but i love this place and most of the people in it because there open to all things.. not narrow minded or judging. and the conversations i have on the forums give me soo much insight.. you know what you guys... I LOVE YOU LIKE A FAT KID LOVES CAKE!



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pandora_23_2000
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05:11:33 Nov 18 2004
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mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake



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Janette
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07:07:11 Nov 18 2004
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Hey Jason, what about a pipe and a crape? lol



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miz
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08:23:50 Nov 18 2004
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I love you innocence - now to destroy it.

I am consumed by envy, sometimes so much that I double over with a burning pain. Envy, the deadliest of deadly sins, the sin that brought low Lucifer. Envy which stops the flow of inspiration, rots the soul, and corrupts everything around it. Envy that becomes tolerable only if I lie.

I can't express the malice I feel (and I feel envy that I can't express the malice I feel), so I pass it over to the bard :

«Now is the winter of our discontent
made glorious summer (...)
But I, that am not shap'd for sportive tricks,
nor made to court an amorous looking-glass;
I, that am rudely stamp'd, and want love's majesty
to strut before a wanton ambling nymph:
I, that am curtail'd of this fair proportion,
cheated of feature by dissembling nature,
deform'd, unfinish'd, sent before my time
into this breathing world scarce half made up
and that so lamely and unfashionable
that dogs bark at me, as I halt by them -
Why, I, in this weak piping time of peace,
have no delight to pass away the time
unless to spy my shadow in the sun,
and descant on my own deformity.
And therefore, since I cannot prove a lover
to entertain these fair well spoken days,
I am determined to prove a villain,
and hate the idle pleasures of these days.
Plots I have laid, inductions dangerous,
by drunken prophecies, libels, and dreams,
To set my Brother Clarence and the King
in deadly hate, the one against the other:
and if King Edward be as true and just
as I am subtle, false, and treacherous,
this day should Clarence closely be mew'd up
about a prophecy, which says that 'G'
of Edward's heirs the murderer shall be -
Dive, thoughts, down to my soul! Here Clarence comes.»
[Shakespeare, Richard III]

When you understand that passage honey, you can honestly say you've met somebody who is not "beautiful in their own way."



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RabdSquid
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14:07:38 Nov 18 2004
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oh man. janette...jason. oi is all i have to say.

i have never considered myself a vampire and i don't even pretend to be. i do like the idea of vampires and all the stories that come with them. not sure if i could play pretend but i certainly will not knock someone else for thinking they are a vamp.



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Jason
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15:54:41 Nov 18 2004
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Janette: A blintz, mebbe? Wish your fashia?



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RabdSquid
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17:51:15 Nov 18 2004
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mmm...now i really want a strawberry blintz from IHOP.
damn you and your evil austin powers references.



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ElderDaniel
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18:12:03 Nov 18 2004
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* Wheeling over to Jason in my ultra-evil chair...

How 'bout No, you freaky Dutch bastard!



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Khayman
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19:33:16 Nov 18 2004
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ROFLMAO!!!!



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Jason
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21:12:34 Nov 18 2004
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Damn you, Elder D! I'm trying to be under the weather here! It hurts to laugh! LOL

Goooooooooold!



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Taymos
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23:28:48 Nov 18 2004
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I would love to respond to all of this! However, I do not speak Feeky deeky Dutch,, Ishn't Dat Veiad...weeeee



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Janette
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03:36:28 Nov 19 2004
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I hava dutch accent isn't that veird? lol



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twilight_lex
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04:10:41 Nov 19 2004
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I love GoOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOld



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Janette
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05:20:56 Nov 19 2004
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I'm having an Amsterdam good time! haha



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pandora_23_2000
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06:29:31 Nov 19 2004
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*sniffs*
I smell cabbage
Where's the midget



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TwilightZero
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07:13:53 Nov 19 2004
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first off i'd like to say...

"... this is the internet, and the people on this site are thousands of miles away from eachother..." i foud some on one hear only a few counties away, and no they didnt refer me to this site, it was a bg suprise when i seen a pic in there profile and i knew exactly where that place was. kinda freaky.

and second id like to say...

exectly. we shouldnt have to live in secret, but some like it. *nods*



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Janette
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07:47:59 Nov 19 2004
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Pandora... haha I love that part when he says theres only three things that scare me and he mentions midgets : small hands, smell like cabbage lol



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15:13:53 Nov 19 2004
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DAMNIT DAMNIT.... i just dont get the austin powers referances...



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Khayman
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15:24:13 Nov 19 2004
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**parks it next to Scar**

You ain't alone, sugar....



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anarchy101
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I fullheartedly belive in being yourself but some things shuld remain a mystary.



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darkstar26155
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22:52:47 Nov 19 2004
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sure i dont know i am just here



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Requiem
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23:18:26 Nov 19 2004
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So. Is Austin Powers the secret or the lie?



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BetterofTwoEvils
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I believe that you are whatever you wanna be wheather people wanna believe that u are or not it's not for them to decide what is right for you,only you can decide that foryourseld ,by really loking inside yiurself and really listening what u heart tells you,and not listening to what your mind is telling you



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Damn, I have to stop tying to be a speed demon on the keyboard, sorry for the mistakes again I wil work on that, I mean nodody is rushing me right?



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Janette
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04:34:33 Nov 20 2004
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Austin Powere is theee SECRET agent man. lol



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Requiem
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Oh. You know, that song, secret agent man? I always thought it said secret Asian man. I thought is was talking about inscrutibility. I thought, how neat. And it's got a good beat. I wasn't nearly impressed when I found out it was not being inscrutible.

*shrug*

I need not to post when I am tired, I think.



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Janette
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04:42:18 Nov 20 2004
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holy fuck me sideways... could I have anymore typo's people!?


Well it could be The secret asian man... I've never thought of it that way... do you think it's a conspiracy? Where's Jason when you need him lol



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04:46:16 Nov 20 2004
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Seriously ... I thought there were hidden meanings in it.

No WONDER my world view is screwed. I mean ... skewed. ... No. Screwed works.



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DeathIsBecoming
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me not a vampire
we are all what we will be at the time we are being it
wether it is true
or pretense
and to piss the people who don't believe in faith off at least the insecure ones
we are to be what we are when are are it
ha that should annoy maybe 1 whole person somewhat
sorry i never have to be on here till like midnight so i am a touch insane with insomnia



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Emaerald
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08:52:15 Nov 20 2004
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I don't have any secrets. I don't tell any lies. *grins as she files her teeth*



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King`Tarquin
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if there's one thing I hate..it's being lied at! ewww!!
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Nicnivian
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14:36:50 Nov 20 2004
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*sits next to scarlett* I never seen any austin movies .. they creeped me out!!!
I agree with Rabdsquid ... I don't show myself as a vampire cuz I am not one, hell I've never even used that bite icon!! But for those that want to roleplay a different lifestyle so be it .. it's the internet :) I've never met a real vampire and it's likely I never will ... so play on while your still young I say ;)



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Pearl
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Did any of you get what mia was trying to say. She was really upset when she saw that everyone made a mockery of what she wrote.



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LadyLilian
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Hi,
I know I don't write often, but I do drop by to read and see how things are. Guess you could say I Lurk over the Lurkers shoulder.
In regards to Secrecy and lies I do have something to say;
With regarding true vampires, not the fakes, not the wants, not the have too's to fit in, but the trues. There's an expression I use when I teach my students when they came to me;

The ones that want it, pretend to have it
The ones that think they have it, flaunt it
The ones that have it, don't want it..

Thank you



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ElderDaniel
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Well said, beloved.

To Mia, or Amelia, who has apparently taken the light-hearted nature of the jest to heart, and has left the Rave. It is a pity you have gone.

No one was mocking you or your post. In fact, if you read back through it, everyone AGREED with you, and posted their two cents from their point of view.

The fact that the thread became light-hearted, devolving into a list of one-liners from Austin Powers' movies has NO BEARING on your post. This is the curse of a GENERAL discussion. There is no way to stop a thread from becoming silly or going on a tangent.

I want to make this perfectly clear, because I for one am geting TIRED of reading messages in my box here from MANY people asking WHY their posts and threads are being closed or deleted.

THIS is why. A serious post and question was made, and it devolved into something else. Closing or deleting this thread would have done nothing. ALL we can do is wade through it and post our peace.

I tried to add my point of view to this post. But yes, I was also BEING SILLY. This is my nature. It was NOT intended to hurt Mia, I'm sorry if it did. I hope she returns, because NO ONE should feel unwelcome here.

I've said my peace. No jest this time.
I hope she accepts my apology and can take the honest answers to her question in this thread, the points of view of everyone who posted, to heart. That's where they came from.

Daniel



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Narakyndryn
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20:36:32 Nov 20 2004
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Well said, Elder.

When I make a thread, I sincerely hope and try to tell the others it is a serious debate. If people want a screw-off corner, then they need go off to a less informational site. Is that not what this site started off as in the first place? A place to gather ideas together and share them?

We should all explain who we are, why we feel that way, and act as adults.

I took a day off due to some rather severe circumstances I'd rather not discuss (leave it at family), and these are the posts I find.



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