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Do you find Ouija Board dangerous to play? More than the Angel Board? The reason I have post this thread is that I have an Angel Board for over 4 years, and I am now a single parent. I have played it once, and thinking play in it again sometime in the future. I am afraid I might open the gate to the unknown. I need anyone suggestions, advices, anything. Thank you so much

Meeper edit: I have changed the title so that it better describes the topic of the thread.

so then why dont you play with something like that and leave your kids orphans....


tinker with gates and you might be the thing the gate uses to power itself...

use the tools as they are and you might find something on the other side of use.

If you are afraid of it or what it might do,then why play with it at all?

Might I suggest that you read up on Angel boards? The answer to your question is very easy to find. Even the name angel board gives away the idea that the board is meant to contact angels and positive spirits. As to their effectiveness and it opening a dangerous portal around your children- I tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to summoning spirits or talking with unknown entities.

Angel Board?

Wait a minute..

Angel Board?

That is what I read..

Now I have to google that.

In the mean time, I will give you a few links to look-up as well.

Here's something from the Haunted Museum, if you want another interesting thing to watch feel free to contact me.

http://www.prairieghosts.com/ouija.html

So you want others to confirm that there is a "danger" to playing a game?

Why not find another interactive game, like charades.. or any number of old fashion parlor games, are you trying to "mystify" your children?

Actual board games are just as entertaining, and less hyped.

Sitting a child down, and saying we are going to play a game, and that angels, are going to talk to us.. I would really be concerned about that adult if I was the child, how can you expect them to receive something you are sketchy about. For ages 12 to adult.

OK wait she never said she involved them in the game, at least i hope u don't. Ouij is not a thing u want to toy with mos sirits lie to you on there, as far as angel boards i have never heard of them and will google it.

It is a game, no spirits come through a piece of card board, just like winning at monopoly does not make you rich.. Sure there are people that like to be all mystifying about a simple parlor game, they need the third party (spirits) as an excuse to act out.

Angel board? What in the ….. well im with you on this Dabbler .. Ouija boards are the snizle … never heard of an angle board … must be like those tarot cards pretending to be like the Thoth pack… only good one I know

But she asked.That is how we benifit each other by helping people put things in context . Mystifing people is best done in small doses,
. sensationalism turns a parlor game meant to break the ice into a demon portal.. The game is now how crazy of a uarn you can make to "like totally freak each other out. Used to be you had to perform.. Now all that is needed is basic improve skills and a hyper friend.. Kept in scope it can be a match, a fire built with matches is short burning, false comfort,

Danger?

Anyone know of even a single case where playing with a Ouija board or an Angel board actually brought any harm to anyone?

Any verified case at all?

I've never heard of Angel bosrds,but will google it and get back to you,As for ouija I haven't had a bad experience with one,Well not yet anyway.....

Well in essence, it IS opening the gate to the unknown. That's why you have to be careful when using them, and also take every message that comes through with a grain of salt. I know from personal experience that some nasty little buggers can come through those things. That's why I personally choose not to use them.

Would you consider being a bit more forthcoming about the personal experience you're referencing? What happened?

usen a board is never playing

I would be careful with your children if in fact you were going to use it with them. Some think that children are more open so it may be easier for spirts to be forth coming. Not all of them are always great. If you don't know for sure and are worried i wouldn't do it.. Don't doubt yourself and use something like that..

All I see are people going from Yes To No, the old game has really gotten lame.

People sit around the board now, and tell spooky stories, more spooky hopefully then the person before them, so that is a game, it is Called a Yarn Spinning Contest, so please, someone play, and give me a good account of yours, or your cousins, neighbors friend.

To: dabbler
---Why Dabbler, So you can be judge mental on their experiences on the Ouiji board game, to put them down as usual?.. I Doubt it They would not tell you that in account...

www.unsolvedmysteries.com

Try that website for you dabbler..

The board has already been studied, oh some 100 + times, the dead horse is rottened.. so you want to believe it is mystic.. great.. I am impressed by your devotion to trivial matters.

You are impressed by a Network fluff piece as well.. * applauds*

*Cue eerie music..

Why so desperate to "make a case" you admit to not knowing anything about the damn board, and now you are a devote advocate for its "mystifying power", Ok I get it this is all a joke right?

OK I have said my piece, you are going to believe the sensational
option over the actual truth.. so don't turn your lack of confidence in what you are questioning on to me or anybody else.. that is how you get cynical people to mock you as "delusional", and "ignorant", because in escence that is what you are saying between the lines.

I googled angel boards they are basicly the same thing only angel ones are pretty. still won't use them i have had my bad experiences and no i do not care to share them here.

CountessOfshadows,

Re: "I know that the unknown can exist but on Ouija Boards I will not miess with because I am very afraid of them"

Well, you can go right ahead and be afraid if you wish. It's certainly your prerogative. Just know that there is absolutely no reason to be afraid. Even those here insisting there is something of which to be afraid can't seem to find even a suggestion of any harm ever befalling anyone due to the use of an Ouija Board or an Angel board. They're just toys; forms of entertainment. Thinking they'll harm you is like playing a "Sims" game on the computer and thinking that whatever befalls your Sims character will happen to you. (Hopefully, I didn't just create a new superstition.)

People used to be afraid that if they sailed out too far, they'd "fall off" the edge. Some believed that if a train car exceeded 35 mph, it would suck all of the oxygen out of the car and asphyxiate the occupants. Several people on this site fell for the claim that the LHC might destroy the planet by producing a black hole. Some used to believe that it was bad luck to have a woman aboard a ship. And yet, one of the most popular mastheads for ships was a bare-chested woman.

Spilled milk, broken mirrors, black cats, knocking on wood, rabbits feet, chain letters, the number 13, Friday the 13th, walking under a ladder, looking back after leaving port, demonic possession, psychic abilities, prayer, turning clockwise seven times, four-leaf clovers, clothes worn inside-out, blowing out birthday candles, fate written in the stars, itchy palms meaning money, cursing gods, sleeping on tables, howling dogs, new clothes on Easter, singing at the table, toads causing warts, dropping a fork, dropping a knife, wedding veils and the "evil eye", standing in a circle and hundreds more are just a few examples of the many superstitions to which some people still subscribe.

They're just superstitions and many people devoutly believe in at least one or two. But most of us recognize the majority as being utter and complete rubbish. And yet, despite this selective division, there remains no more cause to believe any one, than any of the rest. They are all completely baseless, devoid of evidence and contrary to rational thinking.

And it's that one or two that most people believe that opens the door to believing the rest. Once you accept one thing as being true despite having no cause, reason or evidence to believe it, there is little to block the acceptance of other, equally absurd and irrational beliefs.

I tend to credit intellectual laziness for much of this. How many people know how a VCR or DVD player work? A survey showed that 80% of Americans couldn't even figure out how to program their VCRs let alone understand how they recorded and played back video and audio information. Most have little clue about how a light bulb, facsimile machine, cell phone, speaker, microphone, film camera, digital camera, television, LCD display, modem, air conditioner, thermostat or quartz clock work. So to them, these things might as well function with no rhyme nor reason. And with that mind-set, there is little cause to disbelieve anything else accompanied with any kind of compelling anecdotal evidence. So people simply accept things out of selected ignorance.

If people would once begin to recognize that there is a vast different between the workings of a VCR and the claim that a board with various markings and letters, along with a planchette simply cut from a piece of wood with some form of low-friction feet; can somehow summon up entities which have never once been shown even to exist, perhaps they'd begin to show a more appropriate degree of reason when deciding what to believe and what not to believe.

I use my Ouija Board when I do my rituals. I see nothing wrong w/ using them just use your head, If you are afraid of it do not play with it. But I also do not suggest there be kids around.So your call but remember becareful and use ur head..

Let's refine my former question then. Does anyone know of even a single verified account of a child being harmed by the use of an Ouija Board or Angel Board?

Even one?

Of course, since no one could name even one time when "anyone" was harmed, then it stands to reason that no one knows of any time when a child was harmed. So why caution people about having children around?

They're as save as a "Monopoly" board or a game of "Chutes and Ladders".

It seems we've reached a point when we're not afraid to go to war, not afraid when our civil rights are revoked, not afraid when the Earth heats up to a point never before recorded; but apply the letters of the alphabet and the words "Yes" and "No" to a sanded board, key some eerie music and suggest a connection to the spiritual and everyone's running around hiding their children?

And yet people don't seem to understand why some of us object so strongly to people holding onto beliefs devoid of supporting evidence. How much longer before it's illegal to use an Ouija board without proper licensing and certification?

Thanks. I did do a little research about it. My final thought is not to play with it. I do not want my child to get harm from the unknown & putting my curiosity at rest.

no matter what the name there all the same........anytime you play with the unknown you never know what might happen is there a danger in it ..... of course there could be ...... but anything you do could be dangerous........i wont have one in my house due to some bad experiences i had as a kid with them....was it real i dont know but i wont be finding out either.......

And what did your research reveal? Why would you not mention that if it supports your case?

And consider, for a moment, the damage done to your child's ability to reason when they have parents who recoil from things which can do them absolutely no harm. That's the kind of thinking that leads to things like tossing children into active magma chambers, the Salem Witch Trials, the Crusades, the Inquisition, the Holocaust, bans on same-sex marriage, killing blood donors for having "evil blood", treating real and potentially fatal diseases with "magic" powders, chants, incantations and incense, and people killing spouses and loved-ones to answer what they believe is their god's test of faith.

Do you not think that's harmful to your child?

Thelma Ullick aged 4 was injured by one of these boards.

Her grandmother Agnes Ullick was babysiting Thelma who was asleep on the sofa at the time.

Grampy Ullick was just about to reveal the whereabouts of his life savings via the ouija board when when next doors cat crept in and dug his claws into Granny Ullicks leg.

Agnes, in the process of letting go of a magnificent scream let fly her false teeth from her mouth ( best place for em ) and they hit young Thelma in the eye causing her to be blinded for the rest of her life.

Thus I give to you hard eveidence, I only hope you heed it and take care when using these boards.

Any interested parties may read more of the Ullicks family history in my journal.

So we should look at the hysterics that have caused harm as well.

Yet accounts are usually not forth coming due to the fact that all present where intoxicated..

I feel I should tell you that Granny Ullick was tea total for the last 10 years of her life.....mind you the incident happened 11 years ago...so who knows ?

So who knows... Says it all to me, Right Back At you..

Sinora,

Is it really necessary for us to point out that the Ouija board wasn't even involved in the "injury" you mentioned? There was a cat, an older woman and a pair of false teeth involved. It wouldn't have mattered if grandpa had been watching television, picking at his ears, playing with an Ouija board or snoozing away in the corner chair. The events leading to the incident you mentioned in no way teeter on the use of the Ouija board.

That's like saying that we have evidence that teacher aboard space shuttles makes them blow up. Certainly Christa McAuliffe was aboard Challenger, but she didn't cause the explosion, just as the Ouija board didn't cause granny to scream and eject her false teeth, striking the child.

Before anything can serve as "evidence" for something else, we have to be able to demonstrate the link between them. You've not shown us a link. You've shown us that cat claws, pressed through an old woman's skin can cause her to scream. You've shown that screaming while wearing false teeth can cause the teeth to become dislodged and that flying false teeth can strike a child causing an injury. You've done nothing to show that the Ouija board had anything at all to do with any of this. You might just as well claim it was because the cat was black or that cats and false teeth cause bad luck.

You knew that, right?

Of course I did Beastt17....I confess I just wanted you to clarify....you know how much I love your posts when you do that right ?

So it remains understood that there is no evidence to suggest that Ouija boards or similar game boards carry any threat to anyone's safety. They're simply a toy and the only thing they do is provide entertainment.

Some, however, are prone to accepting superstitious belief. And through superstitious beliefs, hinder their own ability to separate reality from fantasy.

If you say so Beastt17, though the Ullicks remain unconvinced.

Of course. That's human nature. The Native Americans disbelieved that a camera wouldn't rob them of their soul either. They had no understanding of optics, silver-halide crystals, chemical reactions, light as an energy source or any of the other things required to understand film photography. So to them, the idea that the contraption called a "camera" was able to capture a person's soul made sense to them. Ignorance tends to lead to false beliefs. Once false beliefs are embraced, human ego and fear make them hard to abandon.

The failure of the American Indians to understand photography in no way makes their superstition any less false, just as the failure of people to realize their superstitions toward Ouija and Angel boards, does nothing to lessen the false nature of their beliefs.

Even when evidence-based beliefs offered to free people from a long tradition of being bound to sacrificing their own for the sake of their culture, they fought against the evidenced beliefs in favor of their irrational superstitions. How ironic is it that someone can scoff and think of more ancient cultures as ignorant because they flung their own children into volcanoes, then turn around a be afraid of a chunk of wood with some writing on it?

While I haven't done much research on Angel Boards, I'm assuming that they're just as dangerous as Ouija Boards. If you dont want any danger, especially concerning the children, then don't use them. :)

I've never heard of an Angel board....I'll have to look that one up too.

As for a Ouija board, it's nothing but a piece of card board. A game. nothing more

I have a ouija board that was hand made in California. I spent a pretty penny on it. I have used it many times & nothing bad has ever happened. It all depends on your purposes for using it. If you use it for bad intentions then something bad may happen.

A very good point, It is also important to consider the mental fortitude of the people who play the game with you, some are lack in impulse control. They act up easily, keeping the game in context, and knowing that all the hype, is just that hype. Will allow the socializing that parlor games are popular for. Consider The UN-Game.. if the whole Ouja board thing is to impressing on you, or others in your circle of gaming friends.

If I appeared to be offensive, please understand, I have seen many people set spaztic by the mear mention of the board, then they want others to be just as spazed as they are.. a terrible way to start a gathering.

The paint on my walls is a little blood red...but I am not ascared .. Just creepered out by the fact that the former occupent painted it that color.

Has anyone gone to Youtube to see all the demonstrations of Ouji board
Possessions?

I say stay away from them if you feel scared. Remember now all angels are on the light side. The devil himself is an angel.
want to talk to them say aloud what you wish ,remember your dream or a "odd " thought that day & there is your answer. Much safer way for a beginner.

Apparently this bears repeating; no one seems to be able to find even a single incident where anyone has been in any way harmed through the use of an Ouija Board or an Angel Board. Therefore, all of the precautions urged by many here are baseless and purely unfounded superstition.

When someone wants to demonstrate that anyone can be harmed through the use of any such device, then perhaps they'll have some evidence on their side. Until then, they remain a game; no more dangerous than Chess and no more connected to spirituality than a burp.

A board whether angel or ouija is a tool, or a game according to your understanding.

If you are of a nervous disposition then don't use it, if you are curious and unafraid then there should'nt be a problem.

Studying the origin of the game, and it's use as a social catylst will shed light on the process. Sadly people that like to be more sensational, or appear to be mystical will keep hyping the board as a mystic thing, which in some select circles they may present it as such.

I actually knew a drug dealer who played monopoly with real money.

I have had a ouija board for a little over 3 years now and i used it a few times whenever i first got it, and it really didnt seem to do any harm to myself or others that were around me during the sessions i used it, nor did the house seem to have anything abnormally happen. About a year after i had gotten the board, i had started taking a great interest to the wiccan religion, talking to a few good friends of mine about it and just learning some basic info. During this time, their high priestess had overheard me talking about a ouija board, as she was sitting in the next room, and immediately got up and came over telling about the dangers of the ouija board. I had researched it online after she told me about the danger of using it, and it was true. You arent supposed to use an ouija board unless you really know what your doing because of the danger of inviting something into your house or life, as the board creates a gateway that allows the spirits to enter. As for an angel board, i have never used one or really actually heard of them, so i couldnt say if it were dangerous or not. The way i feel the most confortable talking to spirits is through a scrying board and crystal or stone, as this does not create the gateway the way an ouija board does.

The game has gone from a parlor game mixer, to an occult ritual tool.

I have found that like magicians/illusionist use patter, so did those who played with Ouji Boards, the board being a third party distraction, people with social anxiety have a window to act out, and have an excuse.

Pranksters see the board then as a tool to freak the new guy, something I admit to doing, we got rid of some spazs' that way.

So one trick was to secure a rubber band in your hand..and hook of to the planchet then when fingers lightin up.. Whooo you get people swaring that a
Ghost did it, it is also a good way to pop associates for
Those secrets they have.. But that will make a "possession" opportunity.

Now that I think of it..I wish I had a video cam back in the day..

one more thing I must mention, we always told the mark what we did.

So everybody knew..

That is the difference between spirited fun, and mean spirited.

The board in the stores is meant to be a game but there have been other forms. If you use a crystal for yes and no answers and I have seen some draw out boards with letters for this too. I have seen all shapes of boards besides the one in the toy store. These are tools and nothing more. It is the person using that board that creates the connection and can become an open vessel, if they have certain abilities. This is not going to happen to everyone. I believe it is rare for there to be anything more than verbal abuse with these boards and I am not so sure that doesn't come from their unconscious beliefs. As in anything where you go into the unknown the board should be cleansed and it isn't meant for one person to use but two always. It is suppose to be touching between the two and not on a table although I have done it that way with another medium and we had to have a transcriber. I have never had any negative encounters as we put up shielding and only allowed entities of a high level to enter. Essentially when using these boards you are working with magick so to speak and with anything dealing with the unknown it is not the board that is at fault but the person using them. As I said previously these boards do not promote evil or draw evil to them...if you believe in that concept but it is the practitioner that needs to study their subject and know the pros and cons before using any type of board, etc.

Mollidew,

What are the cons to these boards since you suggest some exist? What evidence can you present to support the idea that Ouija and Angel boards are other than a game? What makes you so certain they're anything more than a superstition?

I understand that there is no evidence in the harming of using an ouija board, however i was just stating my understanding and what i have been told, after all, does anyone honestly know if there are any real dangers or not? There isnt any evidence, but i was talking from prior knowledge of what i have heard about them.

I have to disagree. Everytime someone utilizes an Ouija board and comes away unscathed, it's evidence that they cause no harm.

Many years ago it was commonly thought that tomatoes contained a potentially fatal toxin. Obviously, the time came when this was tested and no one was caused harm by eating tomatoes. To suggest that we have no evidence to show that Ouija boards and Angel boards present no potential harm is no different than making the claim that we have no evidence to show that tomatoes aren't fatally toxic.

So what we have is countless thousands of uses with no apparent ill effects and not a single presented case of harm being caused by an Ouija board or Angel board.

Conclusion: They're completely harmless no matter how they're used (unless thrown at someone).

So your assuming that people who have claimed escalating spiritual activity (violent or non) and have had any sort of damage after recently using a ouija board are doing it to themselves to try and make peopole believe that it was because they have used it? (Yes, i know of this happening to a few different people). And since it is not documented or recoreded then it is false and they are completely harmless?

Consider the motive someone would have in claiming a board to be some occult tool?

Ouji Boards are sold at around.. 10.00 dollars a board game manufacture makes them mass produced, from particle board.

So people go out and buy a store bought one, thinking they will have an occult tool.. now, nothing pohenomenal happens, the person starts to think (clearly) wait this thing doesn't work as discribed (perhaps even "demonstrated") they ask the person at their local occult shop, "Why, ..?"

The likely answer.."Well buy this deluxe model."

No harm done.. just skilled marketing.

The person now has a pretty board, to mystify their friends witrh.

Say the friend wants to play?

Oh no it is much to dangerous to playu with, the person, instead of interacting with/through the game goes on about their occult practice.. Yawn..

I had never said people were too afraid to use the boards, I stated that the boards were used and then a claim of escalating activity occured, in one case violently. So I was asking that since this is not documented, then it is just considered fake? Maybe it depends on how the person uses the board, what questions they ask, etc. considering that some questions may do nothing more than make the person believe that the board actually works, or that nothing happens and they are bored with it. Another type of question may cause the activity to be released, or stirred up.

Right a question that gets a player the chance of exposing gossip.. they jump up and claim possession.. how convenient is that?

To be able to gossip, and blame it on the board. Ideo-symtomatic movement. But how many people have you heard comeing togehter over a game, any board game? See the intent of calling it a game is much more applicable.. simular to the parlor game 20 questions that spiritualist use.

I disagree, dabbler. Ouija boards are very much powerful objects. I know people, including myself, who have had experiences with them that cannot be explained as anythign other than supernatural. The thing is, though, like most things, if you don't believe you close youreself off from experience. you won't take anyone's word that something happens, because you're already dead-set that it's fake.

As to the question of using them...I wouldn't. Spirits can become attatched to a person using the board, or manifest themselves in the place the board was used.

I know nothing of Angel boards and will not give an opinion on that.

See that, insinuation that people who don't agree with the minority that believe the boards are spirit portals, are some how ignorant, is going to get cynical people to really protest you as a pious delussional moron.

Consider Christians telling you you are going to hell because your heart is hardened. Nobody cares for that. So why should they accept your veiled insult?

And I am very convinced, if you read my post you can see why, that boards are A GAME that has been much hyped by the occult, for profit.

You say that this is similar to the believe if you have a hard heart then you go to hell, however, if you have people coming to you and telling you that things have happened to them personally, then there is a huge difference, Dabbler.

The belief of heaven and hell has all been thought upon as myth and storytelling, misconception, and in my opinion, lies. But there is someone in front of you that you dont know telling you that things have happened after their session with a board you automatically think upon it as a lie? Honestly, there are some people out there that, for some reason, will lie saying this, but someone you completely dont know probably wont, because as i have said, i have had people tell me before of thier experiences.

those accounts are relavent to you enough to convince you.

If there is a real danger, then regardless of what you believe, you will be harmed. There should be no prerequisite to it. If I choose not to believe that a demon is coming through my board, even it one did, I doubt that would stop the thing from attacking and harming me. dabbler and Beast aren't necessarily saying that people are deliberately lying, but power of suggestion is quite, well, powerful. If you believe that a Ouija Board is going to harm you, then you're a lot more likely to notice any odd feeling you have and associate it with the board. Psychosomatic Response can cause any number of physical dangers to you without any real external stimuli.

Consider your intent for playing a game, is it to entertain, and interact?

To break social ice?

Or some occult delving.

The power of suggestion with a prankster effect, can account for a number of Ouji Board "experience" a guilible audience, and a few
Plants can convince an unobservsnt skeptic.

The only potential "Geist" would be sociogeist. Or the spirit of the group,

A very good way of breaking the ice.

So why all the occult idealism?

Sensationalism, people like to mystfy others, others go so far as too say
Only they..with their special studies.. Can hold sitting.. Because the "danger"
Is so great.."?"

All the stories amount to urban legends.

Using them for religious reasons.. What ever floats yer' boat.

But why beat the hype in to people that accept it as a game?

Most Ouija Boards are made by Milton Bradley. They make games. Cardboard games. I've never heard of an Angel Board but it sounds interesting like a ouija board for christians or something. It is what you will make of it.

I've never heard of an angel board either. What is it??

I see it as a marketing angle, but that is no surprise coming from me.

Someone noticed the spooky stories staled the sales of boards, so they thought it over and poof the Angel Board.

Yes I think playing with a Ouija Board can and could be dangerous (as all things when dealling with the unknown). I never heard of an Angel Board but my answer would be the same.

What is the Unknown? Why do people claim to be able to tap into the Unknown?

Doesn't that make it Un-Unknown?

Who will go after the 1,000,000 dollars that James Randi offers,
by presenting any unassisted movement of a planchet.. but oh wait..

another question (consider me a potential convert to your interpretation to spiritualism)

Now I hear some say, the "ghost" move the Planchet, others claim the "ghost" move it through the sitters..

So what camp are you in?

A plan Parlor game, made occult, by people that just want to mystify each other, and appear to be all Skilled in some "Unknown"
art.. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
heheheh ahhaha .. whoooo

Want to buy a share in the scrape rights to the Brooklyn Bridge?

So when you play Monopoly do you feel financially powerful?

A simple double-blind study anyone can do;

You'll need 4 or 5 people who are serious about testing the proclaimed "power" of the Ouija board, full access to an abode with at least 2 rooms, paper, pen and doors. Above all, you need brutal honesty, even if you don't like what's being demonstrated.

Job Assignments:
Two people should be stationed at the Ouija board.

One person should be dedicated to hiding an object.

One person should be logging the results.


Procedure:
The person assigned to hiding an object (we'll call them the "hider"), will take what ever object is chosen (a key, a spoon, a spool of thread... almost any small object will do), go into the second room, close the door and hide the object.

The person documenting the results (the "Scribe") will accompany the hider silently, and take note of the location where the object is hidden. Use a clipboard so that the piece of paper can be turned over to conceal what is written or use small pieces of paper and seal them in envelopes until the Ouija board has provided a result.

The Scribe then returns to where the remaining two are waiting at the Ouija board and tells them to proceed. The hider should remain in the other room with the door closed to avoid accidentally providing any signals to the subjects using the Ouija board.

The two at the Ouija board should ask the "spirits" where the object is hidden.

The Scribe will then log what the Ouija board reports.

Sorry, I said "double-blind", didn't I. You'll need two scribes.

One in the room where the object is hidden and one in the room with the Ouija board. One scribe will note the location of the hidden object and call out to the other room to proceed. The other scribe will note the results from the Ouija board.

Repeat this process several times. (A dozen repetitions should give an adequate idea of the validity to any claims about the Ouija board's properties).

Only after the object has been hidden a number of times should the notes of the two scribes be compared.

Please note that answers like "under something", "in the dark", "behind something" or other vague guesses are not to be taken seriously.

Honestly, above all else, is vital.

My mother has always forbidden us to play with such things. I have never had in interest as I tend to have spirits contact me anyway and I have always been afraid that this would be a portal I would not be able to close. Then again it is just a board game.

I once had a friend who had a terrible experience with a Ouija board. Long sotry short, he and a group of friends believed they unwittingly released a demon/spirit and one of the group ended up paying a price for toying with something they probably shouldn't have. I've never had a reason to not trust him, and the story gives me shivers even today.

As I have said numerous times...the board is a tool and nothing more. It is the people that use it that are the focus. This allows them to get answers from somewhere, whether it be in the unconscious, oversoul, spirits or what have you. I know if I was a spirit and games were being played I wouldn't answer. It takes a tremendous amount of energy to manifest anything. I think many times most get earthbound spirits and this is why you get answers that are less that what most are looking for because the people using the boards simply do not know what they are doing.

It won't work for everyone and some will just get nothing or jibberish. It is no direct highway to the unknown or place where spirits dwell. You can do a test like this but if the people using the board are not sensitives most likely nothing will happen or they will get an erroneous answer. This goes into an area that most don't understand and testing like this is only going to be silly because you cannot do this type of test for something no one understands really. It would depend on what two people are using the board. It's not meant for fortune telling or parlor tricks. The board has no powers and you don't even need a board like they sell in the stores as there are many forms of it like using a crystal pendulum as I have mentioned also previously.

For instance, I know from practical experience that even tarot readers can learn all the ins and outs of the meaning of the cards, layouts and ways of reading them but those who have developed psychic abilities will give better readings. There is a method to their use but still and all they are a tool.

This is a futile argument.

If your not sure about the angel board just get it out of you house, don't play with things you know nothing about. I used to play my friends very old board, got same answers that I didn't really want to hear that came true weeks later.

If anyone is stupid enough to play with something that they have no idea on is just asking for trouble. If anyone is really keen to try it then they should have someone who knows what they are doing.

One can play with a helium balloon or a game board. It's well known that you have to do something pretty ridiculous to harm yourself that way. There isn't ANY evidence to suggest that either can be harmful without going to extremes to try to harm yourself. You certainly have no reason to worry about demons, portals or even spirits.

Playing with a gun when one doesn't understand how it operates is fool-hardy because we already HAVE EVIDENCE that the gun can cause great harm. Note that we have no evidence which suggests that an Ouija board or Angel board has ever, or could ever, cause any harm. See the difference?

Yup there is a big difference. You physically can see the gun and you are the one that does the harm. And yes there is heaps of evidence of ppl not knowing what they are doing have shot themselves or someone close to them.
I dont go out and buy a car and just jump straight in and drive I ask questions first on the things I dont know. If I ever went out and bought an Ouija or Angel Board I would do the same a simple question can stop a great deal of pain and heartache.

To perform the double-blind test that Beast suggested, while also ruling out any argument about 'sensitivity', why not perform the test with people that have 'demonstrated' sensitivity and have consistent results with skrying? Do the test, with a few trials, using people who have purporte psychic power, then perform the same test with people who have no 'sensitivity'. The results of said test should be convincing enough for most sane people.

Is it time yet ?

Shall we tell him where we stashed all the evidence ?

I know this is the dark network and some of you may be enjoying his discomfort, but I'm worried in case he bursts a blood vessel.

When it comes to Ouiji boards or Angel boards it really doesn't matter which one you use it's the intent, you use them to contact spirits. The human mind is a very powerful thing if you want it bad enough you will call it into being. So do be careful it's you that calls it up, not the board. As for doing it with children in the house children are notoriously know to be beacons for the paranormal being their brainwaves are in a constant state of flux. The energy output is the thing most spirits are drawn to.

The downside to that is that you have a higher chance of possession. Which being a mother myself I am always careful about what I do around my son for his own safety.

Consider that the board is a social fixated object. Like a neutral hypnotist, people will use such allude "spirits" to do a number of things.

1 . Act up, even mock the people present, by proxy.

2. Allude to some bit of gossip, through the "spirit".

3. Attempt to scare, or incite group hysteria, to cover their lack of interest in topical discourse. (The Group is Boring)

4. Use the board to launch into some "How-Mystic-Am-I for-Knowing-This?" Boast fest'.

Traditionally, (do your Research) it is a parlor game, an ice breaker.

yes perhaps a few pranksters have left impressions upon your Next Door Neighbors Sisters friend.

Watch Penn and Tellers BullSh!t Ouija boards, and decide for your self.

here is a forum for relating accounts of activity around the Boards, all that is present is vague noncommittal digest replies.

If I saw some activity around a board I would be sure to get the details. if I sat down with a person that claimed to have seen such activity I would aim to get the W,W, W, W, W, and H of it.

The common habit of shifty narrative is a give away, whether you are relating a UFO sighting, Ghost Sighting, or "Para Normal activity.

Some will relate a better account then others though.

Those accounts are actually in support of the actual function of the board.. "I found out I had the same birth Place as someone else at the party, while playing the Board, at my collage Dorm Melter party (yes I have held these parties).

No body was possessed.. IMAGINE THAT.

People laughed together. they all left with a Tradition.

An interesting thing happens when a majority opinion is challenged and demonstrated to be completely without merit. Rather than accept the reality, those who believe that siding on the majority makes them automatically correct will turn to teasing, jeering, heckling and ignoring the reality. If anyone had any evidence with which to refute the challenge, they'd present it. But since they can't help but recognize the validity of the argument with which they are presented, they can only attempt to poke fun and make unwarranted jokes about the "hidden evidence".

I may not have scientific proof, because I believe in the old adage I gotta see it to believe it. So by my own experiences, and no i'm not some delusional child i have approached, this with painstaking thought in case I wanted to chronicle it later for further self research on my part. Personal experience I feel is by far the best way to prove or disprove what is true or false, not everyone will have the same experience as someone else so simply dismissing what I have stated to be untrue just because there is no documented evidence is unfair.

To dismiss the mountain of evidence that has been presented over and over about boards, the evidence I viewed to conclude that there is nothing to the claim that a board can talk to dead people.. is unfair as well. Because I see people adversly effected by the hype.

I accept the board as a benign parlor games, and your pressing of "occult" allusions is rather unsettling, not just to me but to people that sought confirmation in practice, and still wait, then they figure they just don't have enough faith, they need to go to a more "learned person", they need to pay more for a better board.

Seekers want such things tested as well, it is not just limited to skeptics. Every time a board is used by a group, way pat the ice breaker, the illusion fades.

Ok maybe you misunderstood me the board is trash, it has nothing to do with a person having a real contact with a spirit. If you summon something into your life with a great intent and passion good or bad your going to get what you want it may not be at that moment you want it. And please don't go into the whole well then if I state I want to win the lotto with great intent and passion I will surely win. The universe doesn't work like that.

Were are you on the debate about whether the "ghost/entity" moves the panchet, or the "ghost/entity" operates through the sitter, to move the plancet?

No I haven't been around for a bit had to study, school beat VR anytime. I have a fascination with true disembodied spirits, there are so many questions but for me the whole Ouiji board/ Angel board thing doesn't seem to hold water, sure I had and interesting experience with a Ouiji board where we cut it up into pieces and burned it, and it ended up back in my friends closet that very night. I just dismissed it as a freaky and thought nothing more about it till now.

How about a really well thought out prank?

Nope it was my fault, I wanted to test the boundaries of a demon that found me a curious thing.

What potential was there that that "demon" stirred a person to prank you?

They never stirred the person to prank me, the girl I was with was just as surprised she had no siblings kept her windows and doors locked at all times because she lived with her grandmother. She didn't prank me nor had any of our other friends. No one had any idea of what we had done that night it was a random suggestion from my self to even play with the board that night.

Thank you for your involved account, such a rare thing when talking about paranormal events, and detailed accounts are lost in shifty narratives.

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