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The Change
from human to 'superhuman'The transition from human to Vampire takes place over a period of six to nine months during which the individual undergoes physical, physiological and mental transformation. The virus that causes Vampirism is still little understood as in many ways it resembles a very primitive virus called a prion, a life form which with the emergence of BSE (so- called 'mad cow disease') has become the subject of new research in recent years. Most Viri cause disease by infiltrating the host's systems then attacking specific cells and replacing the DNA of the cell with a copy of their own thus creating more viri which then attack more cells and so on. The body of the host then recognises these infected cells as foreign matter and the immune system works to eradicate them. The virus that causes Vampirism works in much the same way except that the virus attacks nearly all of the hosts systems and works to adapt rather than change the DNA within the cells, adding extra 'mini chromosomes' called plasmids to the human DNA rather than replacing it completely. This has two effects. Firstly, it means that the host's immune system is partly fooled into believing that the adapted cells are still normal and are less aggressive in their removal of them, giving the virus more time to spread through out the body's systems. Secondly it means that the individual stays mostly human in appearance , the new DNA only serving to enhance the existing structure rather than change it completely. The virus for Vampirism is a very old and well evolved organism which benefits it's host in many ways rather than killing it. Newer virus like the Ebola virus show their lack of adaptation in the fact that they destroy their hosts thereby running the risk of destroying themselves. A successful virus seeks symbiosis with it's host, not destruction.
Transmission
Vampirism is passed on in two ways, as a virus through bodily fluids, (blood, saliva and to a lesser degree, semen) and genetically between generations.




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wow *gives applause* well said



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Thank you



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Wohoo. Im back in science class again.



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it makes things come clear



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very interesting read indeed, thanks for the info



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nice dear!



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Yes a very good post. The fact is that wen passsed through genetics is it possible for the virus to be recesive in the host? Is there a chance that one family member may show more symptoms then another. I have done some research on other viruses that do this and i am wondering if its the same in the case of vampirism.



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very very well said. well done.



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Very interesting indeed. hm..Gonna google it to find out more. Love your posts



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I am glad you like it all I just wish to share what I learned I can post more on it but so many say my post are to long...



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Better a long interesting post than a short pointless one.



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thank you



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Bodily fluids
As mentioned above, the Vampire virus is carried in the Vampire's saliva and other bodily fluids where they can be transmitted to a new host. In order for the victim to become a vampire (assuming they have a healthy immune system), they would have to be exposed to a large dose of the virus through injection or consumption of the Vampire's fluids (usually blood).
It is unlikely the tiny dose of virus present in the saliva passes during feeding is sufficient to infect a healthy human. The viral content of the saliva serves to hide the Vampires visit should one choose to feed on a sleeping human. The vampire will bite the neck, inner knee or other soft area of the victim and withdraws around a pint and a half (a little under a litre) of blood. When the Vampire has left, the wound contains a small amount of the Vampire virus which immediately begins to infect the flesh around the wound. The wound then quickly closes over leaving no discernible mark as the vampire trait of fast healing effects the surrounding tissue. By the time this process is complete the infection, being so small, is easily dealt with by the immune system and eradicated. The victim awakes feeling weak and listless and maybe with a sore neck but with no suspicion that he has been visited by a Vampire during his sleep.
Genetically modified humans
The added genes for Vampirism are submisive against normal human genes. This means that a child born to a couple where one is human (and not a carrier) and one is a Vampire will not become a vampire, although the child will carry the Vampire gene. A child born to two Vampires will always become a vampire, although the infant will be born human and develop Vampirism as the extra genes activate at puberty.
If two humans who carry the Vampire gene have a child then there is a possibility that the child will be a Vampire, however it also may be a carrier or have no Vampire genes whatsoever. Click on Genetics in the main menu for a basic explanation.
Deformities
The strain of Virus that causes transformation into Wampyrus nosferatu has two differences to the others. It has a less effective camouflage against the immune system and is itself a more aggressive virus. This means that all through the transition period from human to Vampire, the individual's body is ravaged by the war between the virus and the immune system.
Some prospective Nosferatu never make it and die before the virus takes hold, in others the immune system wins and humanity is restored. The few who do make it become fully fledged wampyrus nosferatu but are scarred by the ordeal they have come through. For a full description of Wampyrus nosferatu



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I actually read the whole thing this time, very interesing read...



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why thank you



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Thanks Ryu great post, as they always are i started a database of all info on my comp and hopefully before i am 100 it will be near completion. Thanks again and you always give great posts even if people say that they are too long.



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Family Trees


basic Vampire geneticsVampires, on the whole, despite their erotic or romantic image, do not have much of a sexual urge.
There are of course exceptions just as there are variations in the sex drives of humans. But on the whole most Vampires aren't much interested in sex. However, this does not mean that they cannot produce children if they so wish.
Some Vampires, particularly those of the wampyrus sauria type, choose to marry and have children. Vampires can breed with other Vampires and with humans. Cross breeding with other types of Vampires almost invariably produces the 'default' type, wampyrus draco, even if neither parent is themselves a Draco Vampire.
Cross breeding a Vampire with a human produces an individual who is fully human, will never develop any vampiric traits or tendencies but carries the genes for vampirism.

Please note that this information has been highly simplified to Mendalian basics to illustrate the point.


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Vampire & Human

Carrier & Human

Carrier & Carrier

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Vampire + Human


All of the offspring are Human but carry the dormant recessive Vampire genes. The individuals will never become Vampires and most will not even have any signs of Vampire traits such as sensitivity to light or unusually high disease resistance. Back to the top


Carrier + Human


The offspring have a 50/50 chance of being either Human carriers of the dormant recessive Vampire gene or of being pure Human. Back to the top


Carrier + Carrier


The offspring have a 25% chance of being a Human, a 50% chance of being a carrier of the dormant recessive Vampire gene and a 25% chance of manifesting Vampirism at puberty. Back to the top


Vampire + Vampire


The offspring will all develop into Vampires, which kind of Vampire depends on ancestry & environment. Back to the top


Carrier + Vampire


The offspring have a 50/50 chance of being either Human carriers of the dormant recessive Vampire gene or of being Vampires



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very interesting to read



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**tilts her head to the side** But what if you are born with it? Huh?? **shrugs** beats me...



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anyone wants to add info please do i wish to know as much as i can



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Very Very GOOD



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THIS IS THE EXPLANTION THAT I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR.. THANX U SEXY



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the one thing i have notested about me is
i tend to heal a lot faster than people around me do and i dont feel much physical pain, does any body else this way or just me



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ok thanx for the science lesson this is the reason i quit school



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Interesting...
Thank you for satisfying my knowledge



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very well said



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Very well wrote out.



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thank you i am happy it helps out if any one has anything to add please do



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Thank you for the information. I've always been interested in genetics to begin with and you've definitely piqued my interest with this. :)



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Yes... completely fascinating... *reads again*



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Great posts, Ryu!



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all i have for LordofNoctem right now is wow splendid job.

but i am curious, what is your source on this information?



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all i have for LordofNoctem right now is wow splendid job.

but i am curious, what is your source on this information?



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all i have for LordofNoctem right now is wow splendid job.

but i am curious, what is your source on this information?



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wow sorry about the mulitple copies of the same thing, my browser was freaking out again, not loading pages and what not.
(*scurries away from the mistake)



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I have friends that help me with my research is all......I hope this will open some minds and maybe enlighten many



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Wow, that was very interesting.



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Fascinating. How our trait can be either carried, or passed on a 50/50 chance, or even be completely born with it is just intriguing. This brings me to another thing of mine specifically- I can access my chi energies a little easier than say the average person, so my children have a good 50% shot at inheriting this ability too.

Thank you my good man for delighting us all with your knowledge.



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interresting thread nice subject



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Well, i have actually read it all.

For a start, who is your source fr the information, as the links on the third passage clearly suggest copy and paste.

Secondly, found your first post very informative, and I enjoyed the theory,but I can't say tat I believe it. i dont see vmapirism as a deisease, although it may have once been. I prefer to think of perspectives and lifestyle choices withint the heightened perception of energy utilisation... however of course we aren't all going to see it the same way.



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ahh.Ryu, hi. don't take this wrong or anything but is it just me or you ALWAYS make threads that have long reads? NOT that, it's not interesting or anything, but it kinda occupies a lot of space.



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I found this rather intriguing, yest makes sense...What do you think?

"Vampire Biology
A person who comes out of a vampiric coma fully transformed will have undergone a number of major physiological changes affecting the various systems of the body. The information included below is only an overview; for a more detailed account, try two classic texts: Henry Gray's Anatomy of the Vampire and Vesalius' Five Books on the Structure of the Vampire Body.
Brain/Nervous System
A vampire's nervous system is similar to humans and has proven to be their "achilles heel." Injuries to the spinal cord and brain can devastating for vampires. While a vampire's spinal cord and nerves work as before transformation, a number of changes take place in the brain, and that altered brain chemistry goes a long way toward understanding vampire behavior.



Normal brain (left) shows serotonin activity;
vampire brain (right) shows none
serotonin: vampires have much lower levels of this neurotransmitter. In humans, low levels of serotonin trigger aggression and risky behavior. A study of murderers on death row revealed low levels of serotonin in their brains.

dopamine: another neurotransmitter, dopamine induces feelings of well-being. In vampires, it is released during feeding and has a narcotic-like effect. Neural pathways activated in vampires during feeding are much like those found in addicts when using drugs.

circadian rhythms chemical changes in the brain that help us "rise and shine" with the morning light are reversed in vampires"
found at:
http://www.fvza.org/science2.html

go this link and check the images, if you're curious



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Malvaeus
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Another informative thread Lord Ryu,i enjoy reading these threads immensely,thankyou.



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Echo
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i suppose thats where i differ from most, in my belief that we are not a different species in that sence.



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I don't think we're differen species either, but the alteration on seratonine levels makes sense to me. Wich doesen't mean we're different species at all, just work in different ways.



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Echo
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Well, some of the details of this thread suggest that some people think so, and I know people who do. I think there is a difference, but Im nto sure abot physically... I just concentrate on the erception of the world around us.



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yeah, the physical differences are hard for me to concieve too (have you seen the picture taken to a supposed spanish vampire in the link?0_o), but still, I have to analyse it better. For now, it's hard to concieve.



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Exactly... all opinions are interestign to hear, its just that I dont feel obliged to take them all as important to me.



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very good posts by both TearsOfArakiel and LordOfNoctemAeternus informative and clerify certain possible questions before they were asked. more posts should be as this in a sense.



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thank you . your words honor me...



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very interesting and well written



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interesting



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Some questions that I did have, have been answered thank you to both of you



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thank you for reading it and your welcome...



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as always lord ryu, great information. I feel honored to read your words.



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I like in one way and in a way i dont know what to think i am not much of a thinker



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that didnt happen to me... but it was a great read oh honorable one (no sarcasm inserted)



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I think that his answer is the best answer that i have got seen i been here.



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So there's a 50% chance that two humans that were bitten will have a vampire infected child? I mean did it say a percentage? I'm just guessing 50% lol.

Very great artical interesting read.



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LilithSkye
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Lord Ryu, as always I enjoy reading your information on your post. I would have to agree with you on quite a bit on it... especially about the sexual urges... I'm more willing to have sex after feeding than I am any other time.. Honestly I'm not a big fan of sex, if my parents had tried harder to keep me in a church, I probably would have become a nun. (God, I love the dark side)



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Echo
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Well, as fascinating as I find the so called 'dark side' and as much as I liked reading your information, I dont think thats necessarily all there is too it. ut Im surrently having a rant about that anyway, and your opinion is your opinion.



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kalirhama
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Hi Just Poppin' in ::grins::



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x0netruevamp1rex
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very wise my friend



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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thank you....look all i am saying in this thread is keep an open mind... there are many diff. ways of beings vampyric



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celestial589
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Very well put. Impresive. Someone has done their homework. And yes open minded does help when it comes to such a subject. Thank you.



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midnight
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good read good stuff , good to know



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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thank you all for your kind words there is much more I can post but I will not be posting in the forums....do to some on here if you wish to see more of my info look to my journal I will be adding info there from now on... thank you bows.



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Thanks. It was a very good read.



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TangibleNightmare
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beautiful. I have read very similar things in a book that my friend is currently writing, although not quite as in depth.



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02:53:42 Sep 11 2005
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good explanation



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Very interesting but..my research shows this, please check out my profile for more..........
The more blood you receive, the quicker the change and often drinking the blood is a much slower process. Total body transfusion will guarantee a complete change within weeks while an injection of 8 ounces may take anywhere 4 years to the rest of their lives to complete the change. Chances of never eating food like a human again if one drank the Created vampire blood is 65% while loss of one's ability to digest if they undergone a transfusion only results 3% of the time. Little cells of a virus like nature (simply called WVCs, white vampire cells), comprised almost entirely of vampire RNA, are within the vampire blood and when within the humans circulatory system, they fool the white blood cells into absorbing them where they integrate their RNA. when the WVCs collect in the kidneys, the reaction that results is the shutdown in the production of erythropoietin, which controls the production of red blood cells within the bone marrow. Within the white blood cells, the WVCs that survive substitute the vampire RNA for the white blood cells RNA, and create more vampire RNA. This manufacturing of vampire RNA allows the WVCs to distribute it amongst all the cells within the body. Throughout a vampires whole life, the WVCs are constantly increasing in numbers and introducing its RNA to other body cells. Unlike a humans DNA, a vampires DNA does not suffer from genetic decay, therefore aging doesn't result naturally. vampire DNA broken down when it comes into contact with UV radiation, or light, and this can cause the aging of a Created vampire.

regards Pharaoh



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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05:56:07 Sep 11 2005
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all I can say is Awesome my brother bows hats off to you thnk you for your input....



Ryu Noctem Aeternus



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indistinkt
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I'm impressed. That was extremely well written and made a lot if not more sense then it would have if my biology teacher explained it. Interesting theory. I wouldnt doubt it if it were true, not that I doubt it now, I just am not sure if it is true or not.

I applaud you. It was a nice read and I enjoyed it.



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sonik
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very interresting



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NecroMonger
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15:13:07 Sep 11 2005
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Hmmmmm, quite interesting



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Jezebel
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this is all so enlightening. thanks for the info.



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Fallen
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The thing is you can't be turned into a vampire you have to be born one most people don't really understand that the turning into a vampire thing is a myth



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LadyAshlee
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you can be turned into one... it takes alot but that is where fledglings come in... or at least this is what I was led to believe even though at one point I was told the same thing that you have said... but I think the correction to that is that you cant be changed just by a bite... it takes more...



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WhiteTrashDruid
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Fallen.. once again you are claiming that you, and only you, are correct, without showing even a thread of evidence to support your claims. Come on at least put up some flashy research like everyone else has!



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19:33:28 Sep 12 2005
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Oooooootay... Very interesting..



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Alilyanna
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20:03:58 Sep 12 2005
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I think Ashlee said it best, the bite is not enough.



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Fallen
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21:04:51 Sep 12 2005
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I'm not saying I am correct I'm just stating a fact that a real Vampire should know



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WhiteTrashDruid
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So give proof. You can't claim something is a fact without giving proof of it.



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xRobin3x
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02:42:23 Sep 13 2005
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fallen...please respect that we all have our beliefs.... ... and i must say the info is great....thank you for all of it...very intresting...



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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I am so happy that the info is enlightening. but there are other ways to be awakened young friend..to be a pure blood then then yes you must be born , but as far as the statement you must be born a vampyre to be a vampyre you are wrong. read my journal



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amonxlust
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that is why i respect you brother.



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clownassassin666
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interesting post...a good read



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Nightrider
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Interesting theory Lord Ryu! Very scientific!



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very informative, well researched and extremely well written. Thank you for your information and research...



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Fallen
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21:08:13 Sep 13 2005
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well if you don't beleave me then astral to Black Mt. and I will show you



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WhiteTrashDruid
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You crack me up man.



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Fallen
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don't insalt me



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Fallen
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I really don't know where people get this info from like about geting turned into a vampire.



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WhiteTrashDruid
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22:28:52 Sep 13 2005
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Well, we don't know where you are getting your info either.

And I'm not salting anyone!



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Stormie
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02:23:23 Sep 14 2005
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Not sure anything can be proved right or wrong. Anything wrong can be proven right, and everything right can be proven wrong. Trust me, I'm one of the biggest manipulators I know. LoL

You two need to bite and make up. ;)



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WhiteTrashDruid
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02:24:20 Sep 14 2005
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Nah. He kept threatening me in private. He ain't worth my time anymore.



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LadyAshlee
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back away from the salt both of you... damn if you two were slugs i would salt the shit out of you... back on to the topic... now whether or not you can be changed into a vampire is irrevelent... if you dont believe in the whole being able to be changed then talk about how you were awakened or brought into this lifestyle



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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ENUFF! respect eachoutthers points but yes do tell us your birth into darkness my brother



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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ENUFF! respect eachoutthers points but yes do tell us your birth into darkness my brother



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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Each others points



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UMBRAxDExVIR
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Each others points



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i enjoy reading and taking in all that u say. i await to learn as much as i can from u. and to become more of the family than what i am now. and ur posts are very informative and to those who do not like the long posts, dont fucking read them



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Fucking beautiful post!!! Well put.



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MaidenUnderworld
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22:42:40 Sep 21 2005
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does this virus come in a bottle? if so where can we get it.... lol
j/k.

great read. as always, nicely done.



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vampric666
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lady ashlee what thou hast said is priceless you would salt the both of them if they were slugs
if only the world was a slug then i could change it form from living to non living



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