So i see here there is much debate on the Vampire being or not being a sexual creature. From Hollywood exagerated etc etc. To of course they are, thats how they charm their prey.
Well this is a big issue with me in trying to figure out. I'm not saying this to brag or whatever, I know I'm gonna get some not so great msgs about this. Most ppl that I meet are drawn to me sexually. I don't know why and can't stop it.
It is not something I always care for... people fall in lust and love with me to easily it gets kind of annoying. I'm always having this problem. People I barely know are drawn to me. Actually that is why I joined here, hopefully to find some help and learn to control this. Whatever it is. My sexual energy is so strong, I honestly don't know what to do. And honestly i am not very attractive. I mean I'm not extremely unsightly either. I'm a big gurl, and not someone that most everyone would die to be with just based on my looks. Its not till they see me in person, or speak to me once, either in chat phone, person whatever. Being in my presence. Anyway we contact for a transfer of energy.
I have to say I do like the energy. But it gets to be just to much at times. I have read very little on the Pranic Vamp. Now for me it doesn't have to lead to sex, and usually doesn't. I don't sleep around. Just the play of it, the way they look at me, the flirting, it builds this energy more then you know. The actual sexual act is like the end, and the climax to it all. But what if u never give in? Then you will always have that constant flow of energy and it will build to great measures over time. It's like hunting, and feeding the animals so they keep coming back to that same spot, and if you kill them, then the game is over.
Please Message me if you would like to share any info or similar experiences with me on this. Or post your thoughts here.
This does not mean I want to cyber with you!!
Thanks for reading.
Blessings
~PixieWitch
For me, vampires are a device that epitomizes fear; they are the culmination of human fear. If you fear sex, or betrayal... by all means a sexual predator vampire is an acceptable vampire.
Personally, I think that sexual vampires are a bit absurd, and romantic ones (in the love sense, not the literary) , even more so.
I see, But my thing is.. I don't do this on purpose. I mean sometimes i may flirt back and what ever, depends on if i know the person or not. New people That i don't know. My friends husbands, bfs, gfs, neighbors whatever. Strangers. People i have never seen or talked to before. And to them i never give them the option, and i don't open myself to this.
I do not have sex with other ppl... I have been with my hubby for 11 years. I do have a gf as well been with her for almost a year. Yes they know about eachother. And they are the only 2 ppl i care to sleep with.
I am trying to prevent the situation all together.. :(
Im so lost and confused, idk where to turn.
I am not a bad person.
Sex regarding vampires is a rather complicated subject, but I think you were referring more to the attraction of people in general in your social surroundings.
This is pretty much impossible to avoid. However, I could suggest you have "Cuddle Puddles" which is a non-sexual form of public cuddling. Good for energy feeding.
Energy manipulation is no more good or bad than eating. There are, however, good and bad diets, and the sophisitication of your palet.
I am not convinced there are "persons" who are incapable of disciplined energy manipulation; and thus vampires are purely fictional to me (as described above) and/or as a misnomer for the undisciplined or egocentric experimenter.
All stages of developement are relevent to your choices, and if you are experiencing discomfort in how you practice, then you have probably learned of a mystic consequence, which you are not yet willing to accept as your new paradigm.
I mean no offence to persons who, without their specific predatory energy source, feel ill; nor do I advocate skipping steps in natural progression.
My ex has a very similar situation. She's cute, but not extremely atractive. Yet guys (and sometimes girls)are always drawn to her sexually. I myself find it hard to resist when I'm around. And yes she is a vampire and so am I. And I too have learned to feed off sexual energy when I can. I think the main cause of this is that vampire pheromoans are alot stronger than a normal person's.
Sera
This does sound similar to me, and I have asked some of the ppl drawn to me , like my bf and gf and other close friends. They say the same thing.. they don't know why it happens they just find me irresistible. Even the slightest touch sends shivers to them. Not even a sexual touch. And my gaze if i look at them...
Its so intense to them and amazing that is why they crave it so bad.
I want to find the off button lol.
I know some ppl are prob like .. well thats a good thing... all these ppl want you. But when you are in committed relationships its not.
And its so difficult to make friends... Real genuine friends. That are not around just for that reason.
I know what you mean. And trust me the recieving end isn't easy either. I almost lost my gf several times because when my ex was around it was almost impossible not to at least flirt. Though flirting is considered a lot of restraint with me and her, considering she has the same irresistable pull towards me.
methinks the ladies doth protest too much.
you're aware of it.. so, you can attend to it.
and yes, it is as simple as that.
[To say otherwise negates what you know.]
Angelus
I admit i don't know jack about vampirism, I don't know how energy flow works, Or how to control it. I am Quite New to VR and stumbled upon it lookin for answers one day.
I am still in trying to figure things out.
Sorry, Just trying to find people who have had similar experiences.
wasn't bein impolite. was suggesrtin that if you accept it and don't abuse what is, you might understand it.
Pixiewitch and seraconner,might I direct you to Upir's journal? You might find some answers there.
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birra Venerable Sire (132) Posts: 463 Honor: 2 [ Give / Take ] |
Then again...
...might I suggest a purely simplified answer? People are horny and believe you to be available and/or willing by your words/actions/dress/behavior/ etc.. etc..
It has happened throughout time... after all, we're all here.
Someone has been having sex. With a partner, even.
I have read many interesting viewpoints on the basis of what makes a sexual Vampyre the way they are. I don't want to step on any toes with this because it is not my particular point of view..but I have heard alot of people say that those that are sexual Vampyres and claim they can only feed by having sex are really Nymphomaniacs feeding a mental issue. I don't know the reality behind this because I don't consider myself a "Sexual Vampyre" by nature..I mean having a seductive allure and being purely sex driven are two diff things to me. Its difficult because if you throw the term around so loosely, you open up the door for perverts and sickos. I do believe that being sexual is a big aspect of being Vampyric though...drawing people in with a flirtatious nature and whatnot...I just don't think its always necessary to bang someone to sustain oneself. Considering all the ways to feed of course.
Not to mention you can have the build up and arousal..and feed off that without actual intercourse.... I have done this and find it even more fulfilling than actually having sex sometimes..
Then again...that's just me..
I can actually relate to this. I never thought of it as a particularly vampiric trait, but I seem to have similar "symptoms" to yours. I guess you could call me somewhat of an acquired taste; not many approach me or find me especially attractive. But the ones that do wander in tend to-and I hate to sound vain or something-completely fall in love or lust with me in a relatively short period of time. I've only had three boyfriends in my lifetime, but all three were at least so deep in lust with me they thought they were in love and were making plans for our future and everything. The first proclaimed his "love" for me within the same week as asking me out; the second, within the month; and the third, even before he asked me out. All of them had an extremely strong sexual attraction to me, to the point of wanting or asking for it every day. (Which I didn't give in to, I'll add; I've only had sex twice, thank you very much!) I don't know if this or normal or not, but that seems to be the pattern with me.
So now I have a question. Is this indeed a Vampire trait, or could it perhaps be due to the sexual allure of a Scorpio? Are YOU a Scorpio?
Just an idea.
I have a theory regarding a type of vampire, that think not many people have actually looked at the situation an realized that 2 beings that are named something different should be considered vampires. They are both considered to be Demons of Lust. The names are Incubus (Incubi) and Succubus (Succubi). Here's the problem with calling them demons... When a demon is named for a purpose, there is usually only one demon that takes a name for it. In this case, the name of the demon of Lust is Asmodeus.
Incubi and Succubi on the other hand come in great numbers, and there is always more appearing after an awakening of some sort. Not only are they turned and being awakened, they dont just represent that Sin like Asmodeus, they require the sexual act of that Sin in order to survive.
Going over this information, they do not quite fit the complete description of a Demon, but more of a vampire. And like many other vampires, there are varied ways of feeding. In the case of a vampire of Lust, an act of sexual desire and fufillment would be considered feeding, and thats why i would consider them vampires.
These beings may have nothing to do with this particular conversation that was started, but all im merely doing is presenting a new factor into the equation.
Angelus, Its ok , i posted here for opinions.
Oceanne, I will have to go take a look at that. Thx for the advice.
Birra, I don't think you are understanding me, I do not dress or carry myself in a sexual manner whatsoever. I do not ever make myself seem to be availiable, i wish it were these things then it would be easy to fix, and i wouldn't have bothered to post this in the first place. The way i speak or my actions... like i said this can be strangers, met anywhere, Them haven spoken to me first.
Adarklust, as i said before i do not sleep with these ppl, the people i speak of flirting with are long time friends of mine. I do not need to have sex with them anyway for the sexual energy exchange to build. Like you said just feeding off the energy without intercourse, which is what i said opening this post. I do admit i like sex... alot , but who doesn't. And i will say again i only sleep with my hubby and gf. They keep me plenty satisfied. I do not speak of this with anyone at all, doing this to me will make me feel vulnerable, almost as if i were inviting it, and i am not.
RavensEyes, yes this does seem similar to the things i have experienced. And idk if its a vampire trait.. if there are even traits to being a vampire lol. I wonder this myself. And no im not a Scorpio, I'm a Sagittarius. Close, but not quite.
I dont doubt your claims dear, just wanted to pose my outlook on the theories of Sexual Vampyres...I dont think you would have sex with all these random people to fulfill anything...just wanted to put another light on the ideas regarding pranic feeders.
As one who has, shall we say, a few rather unconventional views regarding actual (i.e. Historical) "Vampirism" ... and even more especially where their sexuality is concerned ... I would like to add my own $0.02 worth to this discussion.
It would seem to me that it is not at all uncommon for women, especially more sensually potentiated women, to find themselves the object of men's sexual attentions. Men are, all too often, far more motivated by their fickle lusts than generally are women; 'tis simply a sad yet undeniable fact of Nature. The "little head" is almost always far more influential of male actions and motivations than the "big head" that so seldom seems to get enough blood supply. Thus for you to find yourself attracting men's libidinous attentions is not... to my view... representative at all of vampirism but, instead, of the stereotypical male reaction to women who exhibit signals of sexual availability in manner and/or dress, or who exude sensuality in other ways that are perceived by other men as potential sexual availability. This is age-old female/male courting behavior and always shall be. Thus, if you are giving off... whether intentionally or not... such sensual signals, you are going to receive greater male attentions than you otherwise would.
With that said, I could comment at quite some length on the relationship of the female's naturally far-superior sensuality and sexuality to historical vampirism, but shall resist such as this would perhaps take the discussion too far afield of its intent. Suffice it to say that it is just such females' near-limitless sensual and emotional capacity that mirrors exactly that of the historical "vampire" and, thus, has historically attracted true "vampires" (males all) to such equally potentiated females. For this reason did the "angels" fall (Genesis 6:1-4), were "vampires" hunted, and women as "witches" burned: their shared "insatiable" "carnal lust."
- Upir'
Upir', Thanks for your views, that was quite interesting info. I would have liked to read more lol. Although i must add, it is not only men's attention, but women as well. They are both affected the same way. On another note women whom i thought were just friends of mine later tell me they also had a sexual attraction, and had for a long time.
Hi pixie,
I notice in your message that you say the energy builds up, you like it but it gets too much at times...
I can't speak for every vampire and i'm ceratinly not an expert in Pranic Feeding because I am a Sang Vamp and Pranic Energy feeding is secondary to me over blood...
But
Every Vampire I know can never get enough of a feed its just too sweet to say no.
As for you being a sexual magnet maybe this is a symptom of your vampirism but it probably isn't its more likely the age old sexual signals that others have delved upon prior to my comment.
I just wanted to air the view about feeding and the fact that its my belief you can never get enough
Hope this helps
Feel free to message me if you wish
Vlad
I enjoyed your input, Vladimir; how accurately you phrased it. For truly where true vampirisim is concerned, which is so primally sexual in nature and by nature... those so potentiated truly cannot "get enough." This is why female victims were described as being "exhausted and emaciated" after days and nights of such "insatiable" "carnal lust" together with their equally insatiable "vampire" lovers.
And with regard to your reply, pixiewitch, yes... it does make sense that, if you are truly as sensual as you seem, other females like you would indeed find themselves drawn to you, as well. After all... such insatiable sensual equals do indeed sense one another. And as only other such females... or "vampires" (where males are concerned)... are capable of such true equality, only such are truly able to sense the same and truly appreciate and revel in the same in and with one another. How lovely! Of course, as I expressed in another topic thread here... just because a male expresses sexual interest, of course, is not at all any indication that he is sexually equal to the sensual and, frankly, orgasmic and hyperorgasmic euphoria of a truly multiorgasmic female or... male ("vampire").
- Upir'
Just a small digress but still on topic....
The best energy feed that I have ever had, and its been a few times in my life and hopefully a few more,
involves tantric penetration with a female, preferably a donor who is a donor for the first time and then my donor cutting and allowing me to drink while at the same time we carryout the sexual act.
Carried out over several hours with several drinks and final climax leaves me feeling like I can fly
Upir, Thank you for that, that does clarify a few things, and it does make much sense when you put it that way.
Vladimir, That sounds very interesting indeed, and very pleasurable on many levels.
My two cents. First, with feeding I can never get enough I will find one person and draw, pull, manipulate anything to get the desired effect. I do not wish to stop it. That draining effect...add to the fact that I am empathic with people and can bend them far easier than most. (my job requires me to watch peoples movements, words even how they speak and react accordingly) I love it. Example I met a woman who was doing my eye exam last week. I saw a book by Anne Rice at her desk. We struck up about vampires, the more excited she became the longer I stayed around pulling from her. She did things and told me things that she never revealed to anyone. When I finished she was so drained that she felt like she just had sex for hours and wanted to sleep. All we did was talk. Can I stop, yes do I want to...no. She has called to thank me twice. I never hurt anyone nor force myself. Some people may not like what I have said. I am what I am. I would feed sangurene the same way.
Regarding odd advances. it does not always take flirting, or revealing attire to appeal to individuals. In small comminities, or in over lapping circles of associates. there is a common known social dynamic known as "The Grape Vine" all it takes is a female/male to mention their sexual prowes to another person (not necessarily bragging). The account eventually leaks, and someone advances on the info (that is often inflated by retelling).
Thus the appearance of a person being forward sexually with a female/male.
And then there are simply the Pheremones.Those unseen little scamps that men and women pick up on one another without realizing it.
If you'll excuse me, a blessing from my perspective. Exploration of the human mind and our own natural biological urges has become safer in the modern world.
Love. Lust. Two sides of a cum drenched coin. What is the difference, or, indeed, the very meaning, of each word? In modern society, the line is blurred by silken, translucent whispers of a darker time.
Personally, I'm one that's waiting on sex. I believe it should be with who I love, and when I am ready to handle the consequences. Though recently I've come to redefining my own sense of morality. I believe it is alright to have a physical attraction to someone, it is unavoidable. A good quote I remember though the author escapes me, would be, "Man is the only creature that denies what it truly is." Or something to that effect.
i seen the other day on another vampire site someone considered thereselves to be a tantric vampire,which i never heard before but they believed they were a sexual vampire,honestly theres so many off shoots of vampirism i can only say that i believe anything other than a sang vampire is not really a vampire but only a being with simular habbits.
Misanthropic made some very good points there, from my point of view.
The seductive allure of some cannot be denied, yet what makes it so may have something to do with the perceptions of the lust-ridden society they live wihin.
Hey Mastermind
I know the feeling its like a group of people get together and they say hey lets be vampires its cool, i drain people so i must be but we cant just be vamires we gotta have a cool name so the call themselves sexual vampires or emo vampires or dark energy vampires i've heard so many different variations its mad.
As for the Sang Vamp thing you said, thats quite a common mindset to which i sit on the fence about due to the fact i'm a sang vamp myself BUT i seem to be able to feed from pranic energy too, I say seem because its not the same its like having decaff when i want full caff lol
i believe sexual energy is synonomous to sex drive. All people are naturally animalistic in that sence and its a carnal nature noone can abstain from forever
Kwolfburg, Thanks for your two cents ^.^ I agree with you and Vladimir, that you sometimes can never get enough!
Dabbler, idk if "The Grape Vine" effect would apply to me, im new to this whole town, i don't know many ppl. But i do see how that could be true in certain circumstances.
Oceanne, i do strongly believe Pheromones to be a part of it.
Lovise, Thats great that you wish to wait for sex, some of us cannot. I don't really see what that has to do with this post, Thx for your opinion anyway.
MasterMindedFate, there is so much info on real/not real vamps out there, its hard to tell sometimes. who knows for certain? lol All i know is, ppl are who they are, whatever they classify as is their own personal preference. Experiences shared is what groups those ppl.
Angelus, thank you again for your input.
Vladimir, exactly lol
JudasBrood, i agree ^.^
pardon my ignorance but arnt sexual vampires considered incubus if male and succubus if female??
All creatures throughout life are sexual! Why would a vampire be any different?
Shadowdancer, Incubi and succubi are actually sexual demons, But i have heard that before.
My question is, wouldn't feeding on sex energy be a type of psi feeding? I'm sang but used to be able to drain energy in small amounts. Can't seem to anymore, but during sex I can drain energy very easly.
The hyper orgasmic raw carnal lust that Upir stated I'd have to say is far beyond the watered down surface psi feeding. Of course energy can gathered but the mixing of lunar and solar currents most likely can not happen without the.. "situation" : ) With or without Tantric practices, the prolonged sexual act floods the body with more than just endorphins. Would anyone not want to be "turned" in such a way? lol
It's just so fascinating how vampires have changed the way that people view sex. Without many of these authors, a lot of sexual practices might have never been discovered or if they had been discovered, they might have never become mainstream.
Control over some things is hard to come by. What you are doing sounds like a natural occurence in your life, and not really a conscious act. Try to minimize the amout of energy you draw and exert. That may help while you get annoyed by thier reactions
I believe that feeding on sexual energy is exactly psi/pranic energy feeding but its flaming orgasmic when you feed on the blood or the donor your having sex with!!!!
I can't describe it more fully without sounding like a sexual diviant lol
You gotta try it if your sang and you haven't
I have once. She still bears the mark on her shoulder from where I bit :) We both like the mark though in case any here would say that's bad.
I am not a Vampire and I have same issues when one is with me its pure sexual so i am not sure its cause we are vamps being I am not I am a Witch so this is interesting to me and yes its just sexual they are attracted to they seem to do whatever they can to try to get in the britches But of course I'm not that way
so maybe its a energy we put out
Perhaps for some, it is both the need for and capacity to enjoy pain has always been through dreams. Pain beyond the wildest of dreams. Suffering inflicted by one through the hand of this sexual energy of a vampire.
Aleister Crowley was well versed in the arts of sex magick which is sexual acts between different sex and same sex to raise energy for high magick ritual
(if anyone wonders why I spell magick witha K its because I dont want to sound like i'm talking about Paul Daniels type magic)
So I guess with you being a witch your able to tap into those energies in the same way as the vamp does
I am not a vampire or a witch, so I don't really know what to say. I have a vampire friend who has a different girlfriend every week. Now I'm not saying that they are drawn to him due to him being a vampire, but that might be part of it.
Sexual vampires play with other peoples weaknesses of a need to feel wanted to subject them to a shallow level of affection for sexual feeding. This vulnerability is precisely what they are looking for to fulfill the satisfaction of their instinctive desires.
Sometimes we desire what we also fear. Vampires can bring out both feelings.
I have had several experiences where men and women are attracted to me without knowing why. I am plain and a bit over weight, nothing like they would normally chase after, yet, they find themselves drawn to me.
In the past 6 months, I have had 5 marriage proposals. It is unknown to myself or the men proposing why they wish to be at my side for eternity, should that be allowed.
I have also been a source of energy for a PsiVampire. Now, it is my experience that any kind of energy works for them but each has their own preference. My friend, Draco, is fueled best by sexual energy. Thus, I provided him with a fount of such when able. I am not saying that i have ever/will ever cheat on any of my partners. But, as with many, the energy flow is addictive. Humans, as well as Vampires and other creatures, are drawn to this energy. Some have more than others and thus, they attract those with smaller amounts of energy.
Again,I honestly feel this is the result of pheromone,and when you think about it,at least according to Upir's research with the Vampire being highly sexual,it could stand to reason.Anyway,here is an article on pheromones if interested.
http://www.anapsid.org/pheromones.html
I just see a vampires sexual attitude as a way of entrancing their victim really.
It is mainly due to pheromones like oceanne says and like I said before. I don't know if it's coincidence or an actual trait for vampires, but almost all of the vamps I know give off very strong pheromones, and are usually sensitive to the pheromones of others as well. And yes I include myself in this.
Sera,honestly,It sure seems as of late that all I want to do is debate.but I am not trying to be argumentive,it just happens that there is much I disagree with when it comes to this. .With that said, I do want to point out that I have known quite a few women who are not Vampires who experience this very thing.Guys fal all over theirselves to be with or even near them. I have yet to see anyone who is a Vampire, experience it with any more intensity than those who are not do.
But it is almost impossible to compare,because there is no way to really compare other than comparing those who claim to be and those who do not..
However,Upir's research and findings do have alot of merit with me so maybe this is an avenue that warrants a closer look.
That's why I think the pheromone thing might just be a coincidence, but it's also hard to tell these days since most people put on pheromone enhancers without even knowing it so if questioned they'd say it's a natural effect they have. The only way to compare it would be to find groups of people that claim to be vampires and people that don't and make sure nobody in the group uses any perfumes, body sprays, or body washes (since all of these contain pheromone enhancers these days) and test the pheromone levels of each person. But I think without a doubt that sexual vampires just have really high pheromones.
From The Sunday Times May 28, 2006
Sexual attraction: the magic formula
Finding your perfect match really is about the right chemistry, but it’s a complex equation, says the American scientist Martie G Haselton
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As a scientist studying human behaviour, I am not too surprised by the mysterious nature of how we go about choosing a partner. Mate selection is a highly complex process. We are consciously aware of only part of it; the rest is either inherently unpredictable or operates outside our awareness, which leads us to the perception that love is about ineffable chemistry.
Let’s start with the conscious part. There are some things we all find attractive. Men tend to desire women with features that suggest youth and fertility, including a low waist-to-hip ratio, full lips and soft facial features. Recent studies confirm that women have strong preferences for virile male beauty — taut bodies, broad shoulders, clear skin and defined, masculine facial features, all of which may indicate sexual potency and good genes. We also know that women are attracted to men who look as if they have wealth or the ability to acquire it, and that men and women strongly value intelligence in a mate. Preferences for these qualities — beauty, brains and resources — are universal. The George Clooneys and Angelina Jolies of the world are sex symbols for predictable biological reasons.
Of course, we don’t fall in love with super-mates like these. The average person who did would be headed nowhere, because super-mates are inaccessible to all but a few. This is likely to be part of the reason why love evolved: to bond us for co-operative child-rearing, but also to assist us in choosing, so that we don’t waste time and energy falling for someone who is unattainable. Instead, people tend to fall for others who, on attractiveness, intelligence and status, are of a similar ranking to themselves.
So much for outward appearances. What about the less obvious cues of attraction? Fascinating work on genetics and mate preferences has shown that each of us will be attracted to people who possess a particular set of genes, known as the major histocompatibility complex (MHC), which plays a critical role in the ability to fight pathogens. Mates with dissimilar MHC genes produce healthier offspring with broad immune systems. And the evidence shows that we are inclined to choose people who suit us in this way: couples tend to be less similar in their MHC than if they had been paired randomly.
How do people who differ in their MHC find each other? This isn’t fully understood, but we know that smell is an important cue. People appear to literally sniff out their mates. In studies, people tend to rate the scent of T-shirts worn by others with dissimilar MHC as most attractive. This is what sexual “chemistry” is all about.
The message here is: trust your instincts — except that there is an alarming exception. For women taking hormone contraceptives, the reverse is true: they prefer men whose MHC genes are similar to their own. Thus, women on the pill risk choosing a mate who is not genetically suitable (best to smell him first and go on the pill afterwards). This is a prime example of how chemical attraction can depend on your circumstances.
Here’s another example: attraction can fluctuate over the menstrual cycle. Men evaluate women’s scents as more attractive when they are near ovulation, and in our studies at UCLA, we have found that men are more loving towards their partners as ovulation approaches. Women’s preferences for certain male scents and other male features change over their cycle. Near ovulation, they prefer masculine traits; at other phases of their cycle they prefer less sexiness and more stability. All this suggests that the path to love can be somewhat random, particularly for women.
Having sex can also complicate the way you perceive a potential partner. After sex, the brain releases oxytocin, which results in the warm, companionable feeling of love and the creation of the social bonds that facilitate co-operative child-rearing. Watch out: sex on a whim can lead to feelings of love for a person who is entirely wrong for you.
Sex, of course, is not love. For scientists, love is a conundrum: strictly speaking, sexual desire takes care of reproduction, so what could be the purpose of love, especially since it makes us believe we have found our one true soul mate in a world filled with billions of alternatives? How would our ancestors have been served by such behaviour? One possibility is that feelings of love act as a “stop rule” that terminates the search for a mate, even if only temporarily, so we commit to one person and get on with the business of mating.
But that still poses the question, if the roads to love are so varied and random, how do we decide on a particular mate? It turns out that the problem of choice under uncertainty can be described and solved mathematically. Evolutionary psychologists Peter Todd at Indiana University and Geoffrey Miller at the University of New Mexico used a computer simulation to determine how a person might best choose from a number of potential partners. They set it up so that the person first assesses a number of the options available to them to decide what is the best they can aspire to in terms of attractiveness. They then go for the next person they come across who meets their aspirations, out of those they haven’t already encountered.
The researchers found that the optimum proportion of possible mates to “examine” before setting your aspirations and making your choice is a mere 9% — so at a party with 100 possible mates, it’s best to study only the first nine you randomly encounter before you choose. Examining fewer means you won’t have enough information to make a good choice, examining more makes it likely you’ll pass the best mate by. No doubt the models underestimate the complexity of real mate choice, but the fundamental insight is clear: don’t search indefinitely before choosing, lest you miss out on all the good mates or run out of time altogether.
Who we fall for is determined by a mix of factors, some of which we are aware of, some of which we experience indirectly. Happenstance can play a significant role, especially if we meet someone just after calibrating our aspirations, or at a particular stage of the hormonal cycle. There may be that special someone out there — but they’re not necessarily the only one.
This article first appeared in New Scientist
WHEN THE CHEMISTRY IS WRONG
Guy Taylor is a 32-year-old graphic designer who lives in south London
“I met this girl, let’s call her Becca, in a random bar in Clapham one Wednesday evening. I was with a group of mates and we just got talking. I was a bit tipsy, but I definitely fancied her — she was just my type — so I suggested we hook up. When she left, I gave her a gentle peck on the cheek.
The following Sunday, we met up for lunch at Inn the Park in St James’s Park. I was excited, as I felt the date had potential. The banter was good, and everything was cool, but at the back of my mind, I was thinking, “hang on a minute”. Something wasn’t quite right — we were less flirty with each other than when we first met.
Nevertheless, Becca and I spent the next few hours wandering around town chasing after the wooden Sultan’s Elephant. It was a laugh, and we were happy to spend time in each other’s company. We both had stuff to do, but neither of us wanted the date to end, so there must have been some sort of connection. We went to the cinema to see V for Vendetta. Everything was going well, with hand-holding and snuggling-up together. When we left, we had a kiss. That was the killer. It wasn’t a passionate full-on snog, more going through the motions.
There was something missing — that special feeling I should have felt just wasn’t there. We fancied each other, but the spark was missing — I guess the chemistry was wrong. You can’t fake that.
Being a gentleman, I thought it would be a little harsh to just blow her out — I mean, in theory it should have worked — so I left a voicemail asking her to see me the following Wednesday. She sent me a text back, saying: ‘For me, there was no spark.’ I thought: ‘You see? It wasn’t just me.’ ”
From the following Link:
http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/style/article722915.ece
yeah, i know I myself as a vampire am a very sexual being, though i try not to be, and some how i can charm almost any girl i meet. if not for romantic purposes, then for friendship. given most of the girls that ARE attracted to me are a bit eccentric (
its all about bondage really.the submissive submits willingly to feeding the dominant vampire.
Well,being a Mermaid,I am very highly sexual also.And you have all heard the legends about men going to their deaths to be with my kind.So really,it isnt exclusively a Vampire thing. ;)
This is an embarrassing subject for me I get trouble from men and women but I am straight.
Trouble is I am not safe so I tend to run off..this generally works but sometimes I screw up...mostly its young girls but I have found older women and married women also just go a bit nuts them not realising why?
Unfortunately I rarely see the sexual side of things and play along just to fit in.
I could give examples but they involve relatives and wives, things that are just too wrong so I am going to plead the 5th.TFS.
p.s Its all in the eyes.
I'm not sure I can make a quality response to this. ive always have a problem in the sex department, though i will say that i have felt the pranic connect before in regards to this.
as to the allegations that women are using this as an excuse for sexual attivity to serve that need over the pranic needs, i would say that is probably true of half of those i have met. 50% of the girls that like me for my working with vampirism have only wanted it as a sexual device to get them off, just like they go after bad boys when they feel the need to piss off daddy.
that being said i could just have run into the wrong girls.
I think it may be an outlet for them to get out their repressed desires and have them satified and late plead they were under the influences of the energy exchange.
sorry for the cynism, but im tired of being hit on simply for liking to taste blood.
I dont know where to begin here because everyone has had such great advice and many interesting opinions. I guess I should start by saying that I am a Sexual Vampire and I have excepted this classification for a long time . I have to say though with all that has been mentioned I have experienced and been told some things not mentioned. First and foremost it has not been my intention to pull in anyone for sexual feeding other than my companion of that time. I have been told by all of my companions that even though they can see that I am not trying to but do exude a sexual energy when around friends even family. When I say this I mean I have been told that when being around me most will have sexual cravings and urges that they do not normally experience elsewhere. Next I also have been told that time and time again during the tantric or physical act that most feel as if I am pulling all of their energy from them and exhausting them while they still yearn to be taken deeper and deeper untill they feel as if they are immovable and even then once I have had enough and feel as if I am glowing they say they still have the urges and are being pulled into a trance of some kind although they feel as if they are not physically capable of giving any more. I cant say I can help you too much on controlling this energy but I have learned to read it and feel it more that I am able to exit the situation if I so desire ie.. not my companion or family its time to not so much concentrate as focus on a different feeling maybe something that has caught my eye like art work or a show on the tube and I am able to dull the energy enough that nothing comes of it, or I just leave the situation. I tend to ramble when speaking about this because there really seems to be a conflict about what we as Sexual Vampires are and do. I am no sex craving mad man nor do I pray on anyone who I am not with as a companion. I feed on my companions energy in many ways and occassionaly a little blood is lost to me but the Sexual Feeding is somewhat mutual I am able to feed her my energy and pull from her as well. It is our chosen feeding and the sexual tranceing I like to call it is merely a blessing of some sort. Love it or hate it , but always feed it . We all need to feed just learn to share. Just to add none of my companions are Vampires all though I think my last might have been Awakening when we split. I still am able to feel her strongly. Theyre are many occassions when I feel her sexual being calling me and then she will really call. Nothing sexual has to come of it but it happens and I am able to still feed off of her energy and she mine.
Everyone has a bit of masochist inside of them and being with a vampire gives them that thrill that they seek. Normal people always assume that all vampires are sadists, many of us are but most are verse. Hollywood has sexualized vampires to such a degree that people automatically allow themselves to be drawn to us. Most of these people are simply weak-minded and are hypnotized by Hollywood's perception of us. Not that Hollywood can be called to fault on this, I mean, who wants to watch movies about normal people who are born with an ancient being inside them.
I mean, there is that raw magnetism that occurs when you look into the eyes of a vampire. This is not because of you it is because they can see your other side moving within you and most people find this intriguing and confuse themselves. They feel a certain kind of fear that is not normal to them and it is often misconstrued as lust.
Your best bet is to find a few good energy sources, or even one really good one, and be completely honest in the fact that you believe they are attracted not to you but to what you are. This will mean less stress for you and a very pleasurable and sensual connection for them.
vampires are amazingly sexual beings...at least all ive known.
sexual energy is part of what we feed on. that said, your best partner is one that knows what you are, and why the attraction is there.
honesty really does smooth alot of potential problems over.
~W~
One of my ex boyfrinds was a sexual vampire. it became to stressful for me to deal with, so we went separate ways.
stressful? im surprised actually. most sexual vamps ive known have a heightened sense of the romantic..
~W~
Unfortunately, few understand and fewer experience what is true sexual vampirism.
As a result, most who call themselves "sexual vampires" do so in an attempt to excuse sexually and emotionally irresponsible behavior to their mates/partners. Sexual addiction (in all its forms), cheating, adultery, and all other forms of sexual infidelity and betrayal can so very easily be excused away with such a "kewl"-sounding name as "sexual vampirism," ... if one is able to manipulate and con others that it is true.
After all, by such a "dark" term, almost any immoral, irresponsible, immature, cruel and unethical sexual act or behavior can be explained and excused away, such as in the following:
"But darling, I wasn't cheating on you when you found me in bed with your best friend just now. No... I was simply 'feeding'! And just as there are those who react as strongly as you are now when they see a sang vampire drinking blood... so also are there ignorant women who react just as strongly as ... well... as you are to... this. Don't tell me you are so 'mundane' as to not understand how I am... a sexual vampire! And surely, if you love me, you want me to be who and what I truly am, right? Okay... that's better! Now, please close the door on your way out as I continue to 'feed,' okay? There's a good girl!"
While I have no idea to what "stress" RainWitch was specifically referring when she mentioned her ex-boyfriend, yet I would certainly consider the scenario above to be highly... and ultimately... intolerably stressful. And unfortunately, I have known women who were very similarly manipulated by the men they loved and thought loved them, until they likewise wised up and got themselves away from such opportunistic con-men.
To attempt excusing away sexual addiction, adultery, cheating, etc., as "sexual vampirism" is to prove beyond any doubt that the term is not in the least understood.
- Upir'
this is the way i understand it, sexual feeding is one of the many ways we feed, so is it real? Yes it is just as real as psi or sang feeding. Some prefer to feed this way bc it it is viewed as a non harmful way of getting energy, on that point is a lot of debate much like the psi/ sang debate. In all honesty this is a subject that could go on and on forever, there are so many diff points of view on feeding and what is the right/ wrong way to do it. I would advise ppl to be careful in all areas of feeding no matter there chosen way, know your and your swans limits and above all use care when feeding.
The AVA collected a long list of labels for types during the process of taking a survey. In the past one group coined the term Pranic Vampire which was misunderstood and again used improperly to mean a sexual vampire. It merely means a vampire that feeds on pranic energy. It is very generic but on the AVA list it means this:
Pranic Vampires: These are an extension of both sanguine & psi vampires that involves feeding from the psi or prana of a person.
There are other names such as Eros, Tantric, Succubus/Incubus. They are just tags is all and in my opinion mean nothing but a frame of reference in conversation.
As for energy manipulation there are many forms of it including healing. Psions are good at this and the list goes on. Vampirics do not have the corner on the market. I am wondering if you have strong pheramones.
(A pheromone is a secreted or excreted chemical factor that triggers a social response in members of the same species. Pheromones are chemicals capable of acting outside the body of the secreting individual to impact the behavior of the receiving individual. There are alarm pheromones, food trail pheromones, sex pheromones, and many others that affect behavior or physiology. Their use among insects has been particularly well documented. In addition, some vertebrates and plants communicate by using pheromones. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pheromone)
In many other animals, smells are an important signaling mechanism that can indicate ownership and trigger mating. When chemicals have this effect, they’re called pheromones. Essentially, pheromones act like hormones that travel out of the body. An individual secretes pheromones, they waft through the air, and they trigger a behavior in someone else.
http://sciencemags.blogspot.com/2010/01/do-humans-have-pheromones.html
Unfortunately at this time there is a big debate as to whether humans have pheramones. They haven't been able to discover them, but this might account for the strong attraction.
There is an article on it here: http://www.anapsid.org/pheromones.html
Pheramones in Humans: Myth or Reality
Your case makes one wonder.
Vampyres, as far as ive read, have always had a very sexual side. Even the old legend of biting the neck is viewed as a Very... kinky gesture
in victorian england it was seen as a sex substitute....
a non genital penetration....
and yes...it is most erotic.
i have seen many times sexual energy feeding refered to as pranic...and since words bend to become what we use them for, ill continue to use the term.
i do like the terms succubus and incubus....i think they fit pretty well, (and all titles and tags are just reference points if you think about it).
as for sexual addiction, i enjoyed the south part the other night that made fun of the term. i personally dont believe in sexual addiction. i think most males (and many females as well) enjoy having sex, and have sex with different partners adds spice. most that claim they dont want such are trying to win points with their wife. LOL
the difference is that the sexual vampire actually is using sexual activity as a feeding mechanism. oh, i enjoy sex for the sake of it, but many times ive been with someone and never actually "HAD SEX". instead having what most would consider foreplay, and embracing the delicious sexual energies that came from my partner.
just my thoughts of coarse
~W~
People are naturally attracted to dark, often even dangerous things. There is a direct link between arousal and danger. I would say the vampyre women does have a certain sence of this to them and in turn people pick up on that. It makes them curious and fantasy kicks in thus making them more and more persistant in trying to be with you.
Well of course vamps draw us in because of the sexual nature. That and the power and immortality. Some like to be overpowered and some like the power. I think a little of both is nice. ;)
You've got a flow of sexual energy..it's not a bad thing though it can overwhelm, I agree however that it is another form of hunting, you simply feed off it and I think that when you become full it begins to annoy you, when that happens try to find a way to either intake more (though not the best solution) or to lessen the flow, maybe change locations or dress different for a day, though sometimes the best solution to a people thing is to avoid them for a short time, no longer than a day, spend time at home or somewhere you enjoy if you can.
I belive they are very sexaul they draw their pray in with sensual and sexualness
Also they feed off the engergy of sex or "sexual" feelings
Im a very sexual person.. and to me, to seduce someone... to pull them in.. use them in a sexual way.. gives me energy.
Wow. This is a lot of good information. I don't know if you would call me a sexual vampire or not. I have had people tell me that I'm beautiful but I think I'm just average. Maybe those people are trying to get something whatever that is. I've had people tell me that they love me just by seeing my picture on a profile. And I never talked to them before or even have met them. They sometimes have even said they wanted to be with me and such. I think it's sweet but usually I find it strange since we've never met or talked on the phone. Anyway, the few people that I've dated who I trusted enough to tell them that I like blood, I tend to feel off them during sexual relations. And the more I was around them, the more I wanted and needed. And it wasn't just when sex was involved. It also happened if we talked on the phone about our day or whatever. Now, I'm sure some people will say that it was just that I wanted sex. No. It was more than that. Now that I'm single and when I was before, I didn't even think about sex. It didn't and doesn't bother me if I don't have it if I'm not with someone. I don't really dress provocatively or anything. I'm a jeans and tshirt kind of girl. And when I do dress up for special occassions, I still don't dress like I'm looking for sex. I also have fed on blood and I must say that it is a most wonderful experience.
It might be a chemical thing. Unexpected factors, like biochemical odors, face shape and voice pitch have a lot to do with it. Biostatistics experts claim that human scent's have a great influence on sexual attraction. They've found that when women are ovulating, they produce copulins, a scent that attracts men, and sometimes even women.
They also claim that when a man gets a whiff of these copulins, his testosterone levels rise, and as a result, he secretes androstenone, an odor that actually repels women who aren't ovulating.
As nature shows us with animals, a male animal, and occasional a female animal will approach many potential mates, and display mating signs..
in humans it is not much different, play the field, pitch the pitch.. eventually a response is prospected, and the second stage is courting (well "traditionally") the female sizes the male up for nesting potential, and the male considers breeding prospects..
some people are just attractive.... not because of anything in particular....
it has nothing to do with being a vampyre or not... some people just are, and saying it's cuz I'm a vampyre is incorrect, theres many people out there who have to throw people off of them just to walk down the street.
scent is the stongest of all creatures senses, tthus in sexual active humans or creatures these pharamones are so promentant attraction to other or promoinant mates. sexuallity in humans can be expressed by signs, sexual markings as make up or other beuaty aids,. the nature of the beast within us all.
i use scent when im hunting....
a person that is receptive to sexual advances give off a certain odor...
and yes...it is a kind of feeding, and the actual sex act isnt actually needed...even tho it can be most fun...but its the sexual energy of the other that is so important....
so...
delicious
~W~
I completly agree with ya Oceanne, I wouldnt say that it is just Vampires, it can be any craeture so to speak and yes I think it has a lot to do with chemistry and the pheromones(sp) that people give off.
i agree that being attractive is not something that is exclusive to vampires, i do think it is more common with our kind than with others. its a hunting mechanism.
~W~
more so than others, it is our sexuality that defines us
the energy we feed on is generated more by sexual energy than anything else. i suspect that a eunuch would have nothing that i would find nourishing.
~W~
With me, it's more along the lines of how intense the attraction and sexual situation is.
OK!!
I try to avoid these kind of forum topics but this is something I have been force to deal with lately and I have to put my two sents in this time.
Sexual Vampire...
I personally find the term offencive and insulting!!
Just because you are able to feed from the energies given off during sex doesn't mean your a sexual vampire it makes you an emotional vampire!!
An elemental vampire is able to draw in life energy form their environment.. Do we call them Tree huger vampires??
I personally don't feed on the darker emotions, it causes a serious changes in me and I tend to outwardly reflect in my persona what energies I absorb inward when I feed. But that in no way means that I couldn't go all Jack the Ripper and have the same results. Sex and intimate contact is preferred and more socially acceptable for most of us but it is hardly what you are as a whole.
you may chose to agree or disagree with me on this but at the very least stop doing our community a disservice and Please Stop using that term!!
personally i dont find the term offensive at all. i think its a basically correct term, at least with some of us. im just not very pc i suppose.
~W~
Wow. Never hear from anyone about the creation of an euphoria of sex without any suggestive action. There must be something about you, that can make men or even women, to get to know you better, mean, intimacy. You said that you are not cute, well, in today world, cute doesn't count anymore, personality is taking the place of cute or beautiful. If you give up to all the impulse and desire of your body, that is when trouble begin.
Yes, Damien DaVille coined the word and it was later used by Sebastian with another meaning to mean sexual vampire (pranic). Damien has commented that that meaning is not what he meant. It happened a long time ago and like most things in the community caught on but it is rarely used by that meaning anymore. Prana is a word for lifeforce energy. It is generic. Therefore to technically be a pranic feeder would mean to draw lifeforce energy. In my opinion any form of energy that is depleting to the person could non-technically be considered apart of the lifeforce so the term could loosely be used but most use incubus/succubus, Eros, Tantric or plain sexual vampire most of the time now. Then some have the meaning sited by the AVA. Pranic for sexual vampire is outdated.
I personally think the sexual activity is merely a gateway to draw energy from the individual. It is very intimate and erotic as opposed to some who merely touch the individual or use other means. It is probably much more satisfying to certain individuals. Like anyone who is highly sexed it would be more preferable in my opinion to those in the community of that nature. I would suspect there are energy exchanges for others but not as significantly noticed as those who prefer this mode of transfer over all others. BUT knowing most even casually on the internet, those in this particular culture are very sensual beings in general nature. We are not nymphomaniacs or abnormal. We just connect to others in a different way that sort of brings out this side which to me is rather innate. Of course this is my opinion from personal and anecdotal experiences.
im used to the term pranic....but what about succubus/incubus?
the idea of a creature that feeds on sexual energy is a pretty ancient idea.
~W~
I can say from experience, that as a Vampire, I can feed off a completely different type of energy during sex or sexual or sensual activities...it's like this...for every Vampire (male or female/straight, gay, or bi) it's the same thing...feeding is based on energy or substance...for energy or Psi Vampires, they feed directly off of that psychic energy...for blood drinkers or Sangunarian or Sang Vampires, they feed on the substance of blood to obtain that nourishment...
However...there IS another form of energy which is as much similar as it is different from Psi energy...and that is Eros energy, which I am sure most or all of you have heard of before...Eros or sexual energy is the energy that's released during any sensual activity, or sexual intercourse...this is a different form of energy that is released by the body...it is far more intense and concentrated than Psi energy...and its potency is much higher...
This energy transfers from contact and is easily obsorbed...however, it can ONLY be absorbed by someone who is capable of absorbing it...Eros Vampires and a few select Psi Vampires...
Sexual Vampires are just as real and active as any Psi or Sang Vampire...and their science is just as...unique.
im pleasantly surprised that some self proclaimed expert (ie a know it all) hasnt attempted to take over the thread.
i find that erotic energy/sexual energy doesnt actually require intercourse...just arousal. if i can generate great arousal in one that i am physically close to (a few feet) i can feed from that energy.
~W~