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Fasinating topic Markus. So many break throughs are occuring. Resucitation Technology is advancing in Bounds, the threshold that was difficult to cross in the past, was the Oxygen depletion of revieved patiants, there is a decrease in aftereffects of resucutation now.

Reducing potential for Brain damage, how marvelous is our Brain, that it can place us into a dream at the onset of tramatic events to our body.

I have to agree how amazing our brain can heal us when it cgoes into a coma or dream state. I honestly feel that our brain is the housing of our Soul, because without our brain there is no us. But that is jsut how i feel always have.

When someone becomes Brain dead I think that their Soul has alredy moved on and left the shell of the body behind for us to care for or let go as well.

Our brain set our personal matrix, what early development occures, or doesn't occur predisposes us to Flaws, and area we excell in. so distincly unique, is that pulse that stimiulates our mass of organs, and mental process.

Exactly the very thing that trains us and teaches us as to how to be whom we are, would it not be the Soul? they say the Soul is what makes us whom we are. Therefore I think that our brain is our true Soul. Hey I could be wrong yet, I woud like to believe it is the soul we carry around with-in us.

More specifically perhaps the Perinial Gland, the "seed" to brainstem, and Brain development.

I feel like I should say something at least give you more than a blank stare on the screen of this topic, But how does one come to terms with their own mortality?

What if we are actually only a brain in a vat and everything we see, feel, hear, taste, smell, and think is simply the result of electronic impulses plugged into our nerve endings?

When this question asked myself, my first instinct was to believe that this is not possible. After all, how can any human being know so much about our brain processes that they would be able to simulate everything from eating to using the washroom? After I considered the concept for a while, I came up with the realization that it is indeed a possibility.

Are we indeed a brain in a vat?

I don't believe the soul is found in the brain, the heart, the liver, or any other organ. The soul is an energy that exists and can never be destroyed. The brain is the consciousness of that energy when inhabiting a body. The heart supplies that brain with blood and oxygen to keep it viable on this particular plane. Eventually body, heart and brain all die but that energy, that soul continues. Whether it returns, or goes to heaven or hell, or just floats around in the ether is for other discussions.

In a manner that is solipstic. Matter is organic, or nonorganic, not all organic is sentiant.

intereting note the body at he dime of deth loses is pouund. Odd whats lost?

The source and credibility of that resource has been rexemined. Though DMT is related to the metabolism and "oils" permiate the body while active organs contain bacteria, I look forward to the more involved test
from medical science. rather then a biased quack.

well as i believe the soul is separate from the body i must conclude that the body and the soul are intimately linked but can exist independently. as the body can continue to live without a soul no movement no life but functions such as respiration digestion and enzymatic reaction still happen. This can be shown by someone who has had utter brain death that person is no longer alive in the true sense but is still clinically alive much like a plant or as the example exists already a single celled organism. As i believe that the soul and the body exist without each other then the soul must be able to exist without the physical body these body less souls can be easily (or uneasily in some cases) labelled as ghosts and spirits. These bodiless ghosts either exist in a dimension parallel too ours, or are simply beings of pure energy this energy can be speculated as coming from heaven or earth or some other form of limitless energy store were these energy spirits retire once their mortal coils have expired. However returning to the original point these souls must be joined to the body in some means this is where the control centre of the brain comes in all creatures with brain can be said to operate independently with free will cells have no free will so something else some other element must be in play or all humans would do is feed replicate and die. The soul in the brain is what elevates us from these simple acts as humans we can think we can speculate and more importantly we can love. love is something deeply associated with souls when we die (my personal experiences so far have led me to think this some people will disagree) we lose all glands and all emotions ecxept for love if you were truly free and no harm could come to you would you not love almost anyone. so the question i ask for all those in the forum is this what is the smallest unit of life with a soul?

well it could be *Energy within our bodies, yet, I still want to think it is the brain, which does make us have all emotions, senses, every fiber of our body needs the brain to function in full capacity. I mean if we did not hve the brain for the electons and atoms to spark to help create us into whom we are. :)

I guess when I die I will know. bottom line.

nerves simply need acetyle choline and sodium ions to function they are much like cables and the brain is much like the cpu of the body

In the Sacred Geometries of Spiritual Alchemy, the soul resides within the Violet Flame of the Heart.

The soul is seperate from the body according to the documented research that claims a .2g of weight dismisses itself from the physical body upon death. Thus my conclusion that a soul may exist and those two grams would be the soul leaving the body... This conclusion still has yet to be resolved by actual professional studies.

"The eyes are the windows to the soul" is a very valid statement, since the soul is in the shape of the physical body, but is made up of light so it may take on any shape that it so desires. When I say it is located within the Violet Flame of the heart, I am saying that it is attached to the heart by a thread, but may not leave the physical body until it is either directed to do so or by death itself.

The soul looks through the eyes, which is how each of our souls interact with one another as well as why we must close our eyes while sleeping for the soul to continue on with its journey of learning through R.E.M. sleep or the relaxed sensation of the ethereal/astral dimension(s).

It may all seem very complex, but when one does a bit of research, it comes as a second nature of understanding.

Well SS that was vrey interesting what you posted I had not ever thought of it in the depthness that you described as far as the eyes goes, yet it is an interesting concept. thanks for sharing that.

I have a question, can eyes hold memory?

Eyes are just a part of processing organs, they receive light. the brain then receives, and processes the priority of what is received.

Thank you ~Dab~ for the "light" response when it comes to the eyes. Very few know about the light reflections off of the retna, which is how one with a curious reflective note would see aura and other energies. Since the body is made up of light, not water, ie the molecular density being made up of micro-molecular crystals of light that are ever changing... Which is also a part of the evolutionary cycle that all living things abide by; then the reflection would differ based on the degree of which the physical body is acceptable of retaining, or how sensitive the individual is to the energies around them.

Thus the body being connected to the soul on the cosmic level, since they are both made up of the same light source, save for one is the beneficiary of the other, in turn which is why one cannot live without the other on the physical plane unless the indivdual has attained a higher degree of dimensional awareness, but that is another topical thread altogether.

So, now the question that come to my mind is, why so many people believe that the eyes are the window to the soul. Or is just a believe.

it is a poetic metaphor, though superstirion, and psuedo-science has extrapulated on the ideal. our eyes are ideo-indicators to many things as well.

Head injures, can be detected by examining the eyes.

The eyes are the only way the soul may be able to see this 3rd Dimensional perspective on the physical level, since the soul resides on the 5th dimensional plane, the physical body is its conduit. The eyes are what the soul looks through to communicate with the body for interacting with people, places and things.

I believe that there are a few parts to the soul. Some say 3, I don't know.. There is a higher level and the lower level, which is what we use mostly. When someone dies, it's the higher part of the soul (the essence) of the soul that leaves. Without the unification of the two parts, a soul cannot reach spiritual fulfilment. It depends on how a person dies, I guess. If it's a violent death, then only the higher level of the soul moves on, leaving the rest of the spirit to finish whatever it was supposed to finish.. till it's "time" is up. Therefore, they "haunt" things, places or people.
I am spiritual by nature, and I see my existence in this world this way: There is a higher purpose beyond all this nonsense. We are in our bodies, which are merely shells, to protect, and teach the souls within. But I don't know the reason behind it.. Yeap..
Ok, I think I just got muddled up with all the thinking. I hope it makes sense, though.

in my belief system (asatru) there are many that believe that there are several parts of the soul. i for one dont really know about that, but i do strongly feel that a part of us goes on after death, whether that means rebirth, or it means going to an "afterlife".

we will find out someday
~W~

Soul as some sort of separate entity makes no sense to me because it serves no function, cannot be observed, measured, or even defined with any sort of consensus.

We are higher functioning animals and when everything is working right our brain and our body cooperate with majesty, a supreme melding of form and art.

Soul is a poetical construct, an attempt to raise our being beyond or above the truth of history or nature.

I believe the body is a vehicle for the soul. That the soul resides in the body until the time comes for it to leave.

Thats an interesting point. each part of the body has evolved to serve a specific function so why would we have a soul if it has no use? what are the chances that we would develop something just to be there?

Soul is the spark of life on our unique planet. Every living thing has it. It's integral in our DNA, suffuses our mitochondria and cell jelly in an as yet unobserved way. Soul should be a unifying force of mind, body and spirit, but on some higher beings functions only as the driving force to survive, even against all odds and without pleasure. Soul is in the air we breath, the water we drink and the food we eat. We're unaware of the teeming soul matter in which we exist because we're so distracted with civilization. Go out into the forest alone and remain there for a few days and you will sleep cushioned in more soul than you ever thought possible. Our entire planet is a living organism and when we die our weary and tattered souls don't exactly return to the mass. Soul never left. It just was.

Soul is us, each soul holds the essence of our life its memories and passions, much like a battery pack for our bodies,

does the soul disapear after death because the battery dies or does it move on to something else.

As yet I have no answers on this very thoughtful question and thread. I only have questions.

What "memories" do an infant's soul retain upon its premature death? Does the relative blank slate of such a soul gain information and "memory" after death? If so, then all souls should be able to learn and adapt to whaever existience the afterlife presents to us?

In the play "Our Town" by Thornton Wilder, the longer the dead exist in their post-death state, the less they remember and/or are attached to their life or loved ones still living on earth. Is he right?

What "memories" do an Altzhiemer patient's soul retain upon its passing? Does the soul retain what the body cannot?

And regardless of all of the above, what kind of an afterlife would my soul have if all I had for eternity were memories of life on earth? What about the new struggles and challanges of an afterlife?

food4thought

In the process of dying, not so much the "after life" taking a personal inventory (if plausible to how death is occuring) studies show that lingering terminal death draws a person inward, people with fufilled lives pass away more assured, and restful then people that held
retensive striff, and grievances. A baby.. I would reason
that their exiostance was suspended in fluid, and the perinial gland being fresh, and untapped would extingish in comfort.

A muddled concious could be determental to a persons final dream.

An assurance of ones "soft ware" , can determine a
defined scape to Die into.

it wears on me that so many freit over dying, when they sailing right through living.

To me, it depends on who you are talking about. Who's soul you have in question.
I personally believe in reincarnation of vampyres, but that is where it ends.

Humans will live, and then their souls will leave with their body. The sould may end up haunting a person/ place, or it may cross to the light... free to wander the earth.

I think we can leave the concept of "vamp'y'res" out of this discussion. As it is a moot point considering that by popular idealogies, the vampire does not have a soul,
and the vamp"y"re is a simple tool for the humans in a certain subculture (even if some of us don't really call it a subculture, but a group of individuals who have nothing better to do with their lives).

Philosophically speaking, each individual has their own soul, and as such, if possible possession does take place, then would the two souls co-exist in the same body and if not then where does the other soul reside?

If not possession, then it would be a simple mental disorder called the all popular "MPD" (multiple personality disorder).

If I believed that I possess a soul that is an accompaniment to my corporal body that survives my death then I would be much more interested in the quality of my "after life" than I would be in my death. The Judeo Christian guide would warn me that I will be judged [possibly by the old testament god] based on what I did while on earth. Other religions suggest that my soul might come back in another corporal body [be it animal, vegetable, alien or vampire?] where I get to take another shot at life [or, if undead, immortal existence].

If I believed that I have no soul then I might frete more over death than I should; as it is, for me at least, inevitable and without a soul or something that survives death, there is nothingness.

But I do not know if I do or if I don't have a soul and I choose not to guess or speculate given the paucity of reliable evidence one way or the other.

So I am burdened with a life and death situation that I must consider. In an unfathomable universe where I must assume ultimate responsibility for my acts of free will without any certain knowledge of what is right or wrong; good or bad what do I do?

And the answer I have chosen is that of the existentialist. I choose to live as if I were to die tomorrow. Not recklessly; not with a death wish; but cognizant of the harm or good I may do along my path to death.

food4thought

bravo.. food 4 thought.. Bravo..

The brain is our power source, it what makes us tick. Our soul is who we are.

It is widely believed that when our body dies (including our brain) our soul moves on to continue learning. If this is the case why do we need a brain...or is our brain and soul the same thing.

I love ss that you have seen fit to effectively remove us from the topic of conversation because we do not have souls due to popular beliefs

I am a vampyre and I have a soul too. I believe that the soul of a vampyre transcends to the spiritual plains of the afterlife just like anyone elses and it is there that they decide to be reincarnated back into a human body if they so wish, just like all other souls. Immortality is subjective to the continuation of the soul after physical death and because our vamprye soul is trapped in the physical body then we will truely die from this world like everyone else

Good point Doctor and my belief is that the brain is an organ of this body that our soul is travellling in and is the communication hub for all the thoughst feelings and actions that our soul needs to carry out to fulfil our life goals. The brain is also the driving engine for the physical body

It is linked to the soul but only while we are alive within its body

I have always personally held the belief that while our intelligence is housed in the brain, our soul is incorporated into our energy/aura, call it what you will and when the body dies our personal energy moves on to a higher plane or to another body (human, animal or plant) but after reading this thread I am now asking the question, if our inteligence is housed in the brain and our soul in our energy, what happens to our intelligence after death, does the brain's inteligence intergrate with the soul's?

I think I'm confusing myself. Does anyone follow me?

I follow you and I agree that the brain and body are linked

My theory is the brain acts like a central processor and the soul is the hard drive

When the soul leaves the body it takes away all the knowledge that it has learned via the brain which is used to process that information and absorb it while we are enslaved in the body

I find your threads to be very worthwhile reading also dabbler.

It is my belief that the soul is connected to the body in the fashion that LBN put forward. And the compuuter analogy was great.
I pose one question, and offer one statement / explanation.
The explanation first. To the one that inquired about the death of the premature infant. To those here that are familiar with the Akashic Record, it is put forth that a soul goes to whatever plane neccessary to learn a specific series of lessons. In the infant case, I would surmise that the lesson it was to learn here was that of a premature passing, the processes that either led up to said passing, or to experience what those that loved it go through as it is passing.
The question I offer to the thread is this: Looking at it from the standpoint of eastern philosophies and spiritual practices that prescribe to the belief that all things in existence are in possesion of a soul. What of the plants, rocks, and other supposed non-sentient articles of life here on this planet. Given that they house no brain in the manner that we put the idea forth. How do they learn the knowledge to retain in order to transcend to the next level of existence?

Good question but do rocks, plants have a soul? Yes, they are by all means alive but their knowledge such as when to flower, when to open, when to grow is inheditary, it's in their evelutionary makeup. For example when a human baby is born, it automatically grows when fed, it sleep when it needs more energy but all is inherent in the genetic makeup, no learnt knowledge is required so can we call plants, rocks, intelligent?

My reply to that is that not all physical host, ie human body, animal body, plant, crystal or rock are the same, obvious statement i guess but whether the host body has a brain or not is dependant on which life source the soul goes into.

So for a plant basic lessons are learned, the host is not as complex as a human and therefore no brain is needed but the soul inside will still learn.

Rocks and other solid matter probably do not contain a soul for if they did it would be imprisoned here within the matter until the matter was destroyed in its current form and converted into another.

The akashic records are meant to contain all experiences of a soul no matter what form they have taken and in what dimension

Souls are the most wonderful illusion, don't you agree?

The concept does make for poetic musing.

What catches my attention is when people who are ovbviously physically, and mentally strained, or neglegent. They really empisis their souls condition.

How often do we hear people imply, or proclaim to be have an exceptional soul. In most such cases such individuals are socially inadept, and not proficent in any practical skills. Compensating by prensenting themselves as "Enlightened Souls".

Very interesting thread and alot of good points well made.
I think all living higher organsims have a soul and this is evidenced by our present lack of understanding of the CNS and Brain.

If Vampires are the next stage in evolution then it stands to reason that is why our souls are a little stronger than that of a worm, a cat, a human.

I know that is unpopular answer, a bit like saying certain northern Asian DNA streams are more intelligent than that of "Yardies" Their brains and nervous systems are more advanced and some glow correspondingly, particularly via the eyes as mentioned.

I will not apologise since facts are facts, don,t shoot the messenger because the news is bad! Hugz TFS.

A bit arrogant there Fallen. all the way to the end, if "being a vampire" makes one so arrogent then you fit the bill.

Dabbler thats not like you to have a straight forward dig at someone lmao

Tfs makes a valid point, what if vampyres are the next evolutionary being, higher than human, stands to reason there would be fewer of them and that humans would not like to think that there is a species higher than them,

The trouble I have with that thesis is that I am a vampire and yet I have a human body which means two things, why would I have an inferior body if i'm more evolved and two its hard to prove that i'm a vampire and therefore a higher being anyway......

I dont agree nor disagree with that theory i'm on the fence for a change because I dont feel superior to humans, I just dont.

Hey... Its Darwin's Grab Bag. Seriously folks, there is nothing above "human" on the evolutionary ladder. If there were, I am sure CNN, the History Channel and other networks would be covering it by now. Two eyes, two ears, five fingers, five toes. We are all human regardless of the tenacity to think otherwise.

Again, give some medical documentation if you think you have a triple helix DNA evolutionary chromasome document.

Ah, Darwin! This brings up an interesting point in the whole debate. See, I think Darwin would conclude that vampires are an evolutionary dead end.
Pun intended.

Can vampires reproduce in a way that passes on genetic traits?

To simply assume that humans are the final step on the evolutionary ladder is to me somewhat naive. Science has proven that all animals, both human and otherwise. evolve out of the neccessity to survive a particular aspect of their invironment. And along the way, some develope specific anomolies.
The Vampire, could well be such an anomoly. Simply because there is no "documentation" for you or anyone else to feast upon, does not, in any way, discount the possibilty. And while the cases I put to you below are vastly different in scope to the prospect of there being a "vampire gene" so to speak, these ideas at different points in time would have dismissed as laughable as well. But today are on the brink of being taken quite seriously, if not eventually proven entirely.
Simply because there is no current genetic evidence to make such a claim, does not make it an impossibility.
Decades ago, there was no scientific evidence to make the claim that alcoholism, drug addiction, or homosexuality, were or could be remotely linked to ones genetic makeup. Since then however, much has come to light in all of these areas. And while they may not have locked in completely on specific gene set or loci. The many studies that have been done, have in large part proven that there is something going on in the genetic makeup of these individuals that predisposes the larger portion of them to adopt these behaviors.
Lastly, if humans are to be the "final" step on the evolutionary ladder. What a sad world this truly has turned out to be.

Luc

If and or when there is a scientific revelation that also contains a testing agent to determine whether or not an individual is beyond any shadow of doubt, I am sure the lines will be miles long with goth kids and adults, willing to put themselves in the spotlight just to prove to the world that their convictions were true to begin with.

But, until that revelation and testing takes place, I am going to have to conjecture any and all that claim to be something they could not possibly understand.

As I was saying from the evolutionary point of view, there is nothing that we know of "at this time" that is above human.

Though it makes me come to my senses a bit, concerning the vampire and the vamp"y"re. The old myths tell us that the vampire either has no soul or has been demonized, ie possessed.

Then we have the new agers philosophies regarding the vamp"y"re, that which feeds off of the essence, ie spiritual energies of others. It is claimed that this vamp"y"re has an undying soul, the body dies but the soul remains for the purpose of reincarnating into "any" body it chooses? If this is the case, then all the memories from its previous lives should be in tact.

From this point, I would kindly ask that all self proclaimed "vamp"y"res explain this theory and if it is as stated above, then why wouldn't those memories create a more experienced individual save for such naive individuals that seem to visit a site such as this? Since most of them act quite young online, one speculates differently based off of those self proclaimed "vamp'y're" types convictions. If they do have stories regarding their previous lives, then they should entertain us with them... As well, bear in mind that some of us are quite the historians so the stories had better be accurate based on era truths and types of wording used from those previous lives.

Humour us, just to prove a point. Please do not make the excuse that you had just "awakened" and this is your first life as a vamp"y"re. I think a few of us would be expecting this out of a few individuals.

The soul resides in the mind of the body and is a prisoner to the flesh of the body. When people die, their soul gets release from their bodies.

Of course by definition humans are not the "final step on the evolutionary" trail [the ladder asumes we are getting better and higher; an assmption I am not ready to accept]. Some day, even if it does not happen for several billion years, humans will lo longer be here on earth. We will either be gone from the universie itself or living on one or more different planets but there is no doubt that at some point there will be no humans on earh.

Therefore, by definition, whatever survives on earth after we are gone is, if not the final step at least the next step on Darwin's road to oblivion. Because the earth will eventually be consumed in our sun's death throes and nothing alive at tht time will evovle into anything other than a spirit.

food4thought

I believe that the soul hangs around the body,it is never really inside the body.

The discussion can go on forever, but the only way to know the truth is to experience it for ourselves (which I have no intention of doing). If someone dies, he/she can't tell us of the place that his/her soul goes to.

The case as is, is clearly people professing on blind assertion.. the cart before the horse..

Claim to be something.. with no inclination of support.. then when something is "discovered".. profess to "Have told them so.."

Who is to say this body we all have is not a shell for the soul.
I believe everyone has a soul.The inner self is deep place
not only for the soul,but also for the mind and heart.

It is my personal belief that one soul is there essence; it makes us who we are as a consciousness. I also believe that if and when a person becomes a vampire, their body's source of nutrition changes; also the metabolism probably changes, and this different processing of energy causes (perhaps) their abilities to be heightened; if those ledgends are true. Back to my point; simply because they drink blood, which is taboo, especially in the majority religion, Christianity, does not mean vampires have no soul. Besides, since vampirism is a disease spread through biting, answer me this: Why would the soul be banished altered or corrupted by a disease of the flesh? Vampires who claim to have no soul just use that as an excuse for their already evil demeanor and humans who say the same want something to hate; like the Jewish community durig the Holocaust. If their soul is banished, altered or corrupted, then they must have had a weak soul indeed. But then again this is all speculation, as I myself have no evidence of the existance of the 'soul' or what may or ma not happen to said soul during transformation. ~Adiou

People associate the soul woth the living. Since vampires are between teh realm of the living and the dead, society view them as no longer having a soul.

i THINK THE SOUL IS A culture a field living in the sphere of body which is other than body and five elements is immaterial and not the obstecle to them. souls are even other than spirits and most powerful as they can drive the elements to cause their way, yet they are not concerned to materialistic world they involve only to rest in the body by birth.


to feel what they would powerful be one test case:

try to float through materialstic obstacles, try to float through wall (by feeling and visualising or by asttral)

try to float through stars moon mountains clouds.

Death of the flesh doesn't always mean death of the soul. When the body is dead, the soul escapes into the next life or the afterlife. Either way, death brings our souls to a new life.