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Many people have experienced the phenomenon of receiving a telephone call from someone shortly after thinking about them. What My question is, does this sounds like Telepathy or some other form of Psychic ability?

Possibly an empathic ability...

Maybe they/you feel the other one thinking about then...

Mindtrick,it is considered to be the same as being empathic..the "tele" meaning from a long distance.

Anyway,Rain here is a little reading for you as you would need to do some before you understand why I say this..There is quite a bit in my journal about it also...information and links..




The Entrainment
Transformation Principle


A physics phenomenon of resonance, first observed in the 17th century, has an effect on all of us. Entrainment is defined as the tendency for two oscillating bodies to lock into phase so that they vibrate in harmony. It is also defined as a synchronization of two or more rhythmic cycles. The principle of entrainment is universal, appearing in chemistry, pharmacology, biology, medicine, psychology, sociology, astronomy, architecture and more. The classic example shows individual pulsing heart muscle cells. When they are brought close together, they begin pulsing in synchrony. Another example of the entrainment effect is women who live in the same household often find that their menstrual cycles will coincide.

Discovery of Entrainment.

The history of entrainment is linked to Dutch scientist, Christian Huygens in 1665. While working on the design of the pendulum clock, Huygens found that when he placed two of them on a wall near each other and swung the pendulums at different rates, they would eventually end up swinging in at the same rate. This is due to their mutual influence on one another.

Musical Entrainment.

The entrainment process is quite evident in music. It is possible to have rhythmic entrainment, melodic entrainment and dynamic entrainment. Entrainment music has the potential to (1) resonate with the listener’s feelings, (2) transform negativity into positivity, and (3) promote a state of liveliness or serenity. Certain sounds, in specific sequence can help bring the listener from one place to another. This process is also known as the “isoprinciple.”

The special music from Sound Feelings has been developed with the entrainment transformation principle in mind. It creates a type of sound “mirror” that first reflects the current stress or turmoil of the listener, and later reflects the desired mood and feeling. As the music gradually transforms, its resolution may be experienced in the listener, physically or emotionally.


www.soundfeelings.com/.../entrainment.htm

Most likely it is about our conscious hiding routines from us.

After some time of receiving a call from a certain person the one time we are not consciously expecting a call they call.

The interesting factor is how many times a person miss a guesses that someone is about to call.

We are wired to anticipate, and this whole alleged phenomena is anticipation.

Hmm,While in part,I agree Dab.And it certainly is one component of entrainment...but,I do feel there is more to it as well.
While I have explained it in the past it has pretty much fallen on deaf ears,and no one has ever responded enough to go into a disscussion and break it down..and thats ok.
But it would be nice to do so.

I just see anticipation as a more practical conclusion. I do remember the breakdown from a thread sometime back though.

Neuroscience is making bounds in areas that once left gaps for phenomenalist to assign mystic conclusions to.

Yes,it is ..in part.that would most likely fall under Circadian rhythm prompted by light.There is alot more to the story though.It is why I included the musical aspect of it...

Here,I found this recent study.
I know that this doesnt pretain to metaphysical studies and some might not see its connection,but even so,it is pretty significant evidence in my view that entrainment has alot to do with ,if not be even a physical foundation of empathy and telepathy.




http://jbr.sagepub.com/content/20/4/339.abstract

Although light is accepted as the dominant zeitgeber for entrainment of the human circadian system, there is evidence that nonphotic stimuli may play a role. This review critically assesses the current evidence in support of nonphotic entrainment in humans. Studies involving manipulations of sleep-wake schedules, exercise, mealtimes, and social stimuli are re-examined, bearing in mind the fact that the human circadian clock is sensitive to very dim light and has a free-running period very close to 24 h. Because of light confounds, the study of totally blind subjects with free-running circadian rhythms represents the ideal model to investigate the effects of nonphotic stimuli on circadian phase and period. Strong support for nonphotic entrainment in humans has already come from the study of a few blind subjects with entrained circadian rhythms. However, in these studies the nonphotic stimulus(i) responsible was not identified. The effect of appropriately timed exercise or exogenous melatonin represents the best proof to date of an effect of nonphotic stimuli on human circadian timing. Phase-response curves for both exercise and melatonin have been constructed. Given the powerful effect of feeding as a circadian zeitgeber in various nonhuman species, studies of meal timing are recommended. In conclusion, the available evidence indicates that it remains worthwhile to continue to study nonphotic effects on human circadian timing to identify treatment strategies for shift workers and transmeridian travelers as well as for the blind and possibly the elderly.

I get this quite alot and simular things like knowing someones aproaching my house , or telling if someones about to phone . I think this is down to a sympathetic link we have to people we know . If they think strongly with intent to connect to us , were allerted via this link to their pressance .

I do too..way too often,thus my research into it.
At ths point,I dont think that empathy or telepathy is super natural or even in the same catagory as other pshycic stuff such as Telekinesis,but actually something that we are all programmed with.

Just keep in mind though,what I've brought to the table is simply a possibility of what it could be and not a cut and dried "answer" .

This is wierd,cause 'I' too have done this.Either someone would call me and i would pick up and know it was them,alot of time my phone dont ring.(its old)..yet someone would try to call me.i would like.. you know PICK up the phone..and they would be there!It's like..simular to the feeling of..'being watched' only its a hearing feeling.you know?
I would have no clue as to what this could mean.
maybe its a modern ability..growing into our 6th sence.

maybe it does have something to do with being empathic then? hmmm weird! I never thought about that one!

The overlap between emotion and vibrations is often seen.
What does it mean when music evokes different emotions in different people, for instance this track evokes, sadness, anger, love, euphoria, trance and even spirituality.
What do YOU hear and WHY?

hows about we're all part of One, so why shouldn't such things be possible? after all, we're part of the same great equation.

I think when you develop a bond with people that you tune in with each other so your spidey feeling start to tingle when you cross their mind.

I do believe in telepathy I think it exists. We only use such a small part of our brains and there is no telling what we could do if we fully open up our channels and use our brains to their fullest capacity.

Buzz, Not Rogue the "We only use a small portion of our brain" idea is a myth, and has been busted flat over, and over again, along with global warming.

It may be the person perception of it. Some Yes , and for others no just coincidence... So... It is indeed a hard choice to pick on ether end. For none can tell really.

A simple lucky guess maybe. I think we do have the ablity to be able to be telepathic, just we havent build our skills (or lost it) in that sense.

If Global warming is busted flat out, I would ask you to give the official arguments for three facts;
1. Why do small snails at the bottom of the sea buried layers of identified years of time (like tree trunk years) show changes of salinity, weather and ocean currents are directly linked?
2. Why do layered and timed ice cores show co2 levels coincide directly with climate change ?
3. Most scientists (bar computer programmers) disagree with you.
(Incidentally, the latest study showing climate shifts to ice-Ages occur withing 2-3 years not hundreds of years as previously thought)
Winks at Europe, it could be getting real cold real quick !

Lets keep in mind that while empathy is impressionistic in nature,telepathy is the ability to read minds..and I would say that getting the feeling that someone is going to call,is not reading another's mind.

We as the human race have become so programmed to think that what is a natural ability of someone, hell all of us if we just stop being so narrow minded or scientific, is something supernatural. Is telepathy real? What do you precieve as real? Does it have to be something that you can control, touch, manipulate, taste, smell or feel? O, you put up some good articles that explains some of the things about what this thread is about, and others have good arguments in other areas, but I do know that telepathy is real and can be a way to communicate with each other. It took some things to happen, the right time for me to accept that it is possible and to quit listening to the hell and brimstone spewers rhetoric.
Believe what you want, but don't try to force your beliefs on others the way the christians did during the inquisitions. Accept that others can do what you can't just as you can do what others can't.

I feel that many times a distinction can be drawn between supernatural effects and what we call preternatural effects. Supernatural is defined as that which occurs entirely outside the physical laws of the universe.In other words, miracles. Preternatural, on the other hand, can defined as events that, while they certainly might be on the edge of the curve of what we now believe possible,yet are so common in us as humans that they cannot be denied, their mechanics can many times be explained by physical processes and in my experience, is how even the most magical effects manifest... as uncanny co-incidences, flashes of illumination ,empahetic and even precog and telepathic events that would appear to be supernatural at first glance but perhaps in fact,are not.
Ones man's majick or divinity is another man's engineering or physics.

sometimes if others are close we are on the same wave length

Oceanne so true, me thinkst the gap between preternatural and supernatural is an ever shrinking one.

Tell me, in the medical world telepathy and seeing images of destruction would be pre-cursors for a mental health problem.
Given that history is litered with respected prophets in every culture and every race, is it not odd the establishment has no radar for such folk.
If the visionary subjects were not the "usual suspects" (druggies/abused etc) do you believe the authorities would take their "visions" any more seriously?
Or would they ignore the subject matter in order to conform and stay respected amongst peers. This remains on topic as I am questioning radar for the Telepaths and Nostradamus illumini.

Personally,I feel that everyone is taking things a bit more seriously these days.As for pregnition and such? I feel that is different than telepathy...things like that happen when we access the Akashic record..deliberately or inadvertently.So it really doesnt fall into this thread.JMHO.And I do not feel its supernatural .

Last saturday this case I am telling you, happened.

That saturday I was at home for my psychic senses did not allow me to go to office, coz it was clouding fog in my mind and making me sleepy in the morning.

My self and my wife were talking on any matter, that time crow came to my window grill and putting its beak inside and addressing us the crow was barking.

after 30 second it went. and thsi crow did three time. then my wife said this strange happened first time and thsi might lea our any one beloved will come to our home today.

after third bark my Mom' phone came to us that my uncle and aunty (Mom's own sister and her husband) is coming to my home.

That day afternoon Aunty, Uncle and my cousin sister arrived at my home.

I loved this paranormal incidence.

I would have to say part psychic and intuitive skills. I am going to deny the routine theory simply because if it was truly routine, then that person could predict it every single time.

I went through it myself once as a teen. I was drying my hair and something in my head snapped that the phone was going to ring. It was my mother.

Now if this was routine, my mother would always call me around that time, which isn't the case, therefore the routine theory would be false.

Well the cops do like to use them...this today when a psychic gave the police the correct clues 9 months earlier.
She told distraught relatives that Melissa Barthelemy, 24, was in a shallow grave near water and close to a sign containing the letter "G".
But cops ignored the lead - until four women's bodies were discovered in bags at Gilgo Beach on New York's Long Island.
Melissa, who vanished from her flat in the Bronx district last July, and the three other women were prostitutes who advertised on internet site Craigslist.
Cops identified Megan Waterman, 22, of Maine, last week ...

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3373086/Psychics-grave-find-before-cops.html

I have experienced this phenomenon several times. I think it probably does have to do with empathic abilities. Some experience this more often than others. I think it is more common with people that we have formed strong links with!

There is a case where being or having a bidirectional link with someone can alert you to something to contact or even feel the same emotional joy or pain. not unusual

I like this post. I've had similar occurrences when I'd think of somebody and soon after would get a call from them.

I don't know if it's part of the same subject, but what about the sensation that somebody is there when they're not? Or sometimes even feeling them touch you. Is that some kind of empathetic ability or just a case of over-active imagination?

I don't think it's so much telepathic as it is just really good timing and coincidence.

There is no such thing as coincidence.

In that case we are all in trouble...but there is still time.

Sure there's a such thing as coincidence.
Say i fall asleep at 7pm, and at the same time across town someone wakes up at 7pm. It is simple coincidence because the correlation is insignificant

That's like saying, "Do you think it's telepathic if you're thinking about having chicken, and someone says they're hungry?"

I doubt it's anything but coincidence.

Oww.Head Hurts. Long Words and Smart People. I think its crazy but I heard that it actually happens. I have heard my grandma in this house and something else thats undescribable in this house after she passed and it still goes on today.

Maybe it's the fact that you're so in a routine of having her there that your mind thinks she's causing things to happen?

I lived with my great grandparents for years before they died. I still, to this day, am in some of the routine I was when they lived here. I still walk to their room in the morning before school, because I swear I hear them talking, but it's the television in the other room or the radio. *shrug*

Ach! Forgive my typo please.*Synchronicity*

Anyway,here is a more thorough description..

http://www.flowpower.com/What%20is%20Synchronicity.htm

It could be a combination of both

me n my friend do this alot, we both always call eachother freaks lol we both text eachother at the same time, or will try ringing eachother but we get the engaged tone cus we r both trying at the same time lol, today we were on the phone, and my daughter had got hold of some airfreshner that i hate and sprayed it and at that second my friend said 'ergh i can smell really srong perfume' i hadnt even mentioned the air freshner cus it literally just happened

we have been friends since we were babies, so i believe that we r majorly tuned into eachother

Yes Bexi,same here,with quite a few people Im close to.And some,not so close.I tend to call that entrainment though as opposed to telepathy. .

As to why I feel that the
Entrainment transformation principle might be at work when it comes to this type of "telepathic" experience?
To entrain..to be carried along in a current.
This phenomenon of resonance has an effect on all of us and everything around us .It is the tendency for two oscillating bodies to lock into phase so that they vibrate in harmony.If only for a few moments.
The principle is universal. In chemistry, pharmacology, biology, medicine, psychology, sociology, astronomy, architecture...It is everywhere.

Music is one of the best examples. When it comes to music, there are three distinct types... rhythmic entrainment, melodic entrainment and dynamic entrainment.

Certain sounds, in specific sequences can bring a listener from one place to another. I believe this process is known as the isoprinciple and I feel it is the basis for magical chanting,drumming and and other methods of incantation.
The list goes on and on really .

I think telepathy can be a great form of communication between people that have something in common. that special thing that is in common, loss, love, understanding, or whatever it might be. Me and my brother which are twins are not blood related yet mysteriously we are twins, same country and town too but not house or parents. yet we communicate well in telepathy. we know what he or me have in mind and there is no need for words to be spoken. telepathy is a great form of communication and in a very special way. it is an understanding

Well, are you telling me that every person, that have a brain, can use that brain to communicate with others brains? Because I am most of a person that need the fact before I truly believe in something, I don't believe that telepathy got nothing to do with the phone call, but was pure coincidence.

Markus,Here is something you might find interesting .


http://74.125.155.132/scholar?q=cache:es8V5JGNbwcJ:scholar.google.com/+telepathic+entrainment&hl=en&as_sdt=0,23&as_vis=1

You guys might like to read this as well...

http://www.webmedcentral.com/article_view/1164

If you think about it, we has humans, only use a partial part of our brains. It could very well be anything or everything mentioned above. Imagine the possibilities that could arise from using our brains as a whole? That could very well be the case, should we be able to.

You've posed an interesting question. I'm not sure to be honest. Perhaps embathic, perhaps just a strange quincendent, but we all will form our opinions on that subject matter. We may never know the true answer.

sometimes ill catch dejevu wen it happns and it will seem so real

Oceanne in order to make some sense of these findings it is necessary to marry up 3 separate studies;

1. Let us deal with Freud and what he published in the link you provided; The link waffles on so I have cut out this very important part-
"It would seem to be aplausible candidate for a possiblemechanism of telepathy, or synchronicity. But, unfortunately, it remains difficult to seehow such a mind-to-mind transmission byan identical quantum physical mechanismbetween brains would work through abiological mechanism. The physical events ofquantum mechanics are typically not fullycommensurable with the macroscopicproperties of biology and psychology. This isdue to the well-known correspondenceprinciple that limits the correlation andrelevance of most quantum events to themacroscopic world (Bohr, 1920). Only at themost microscopic level can quantum physicsprinciples be directly applied without adramatic weakening and “decoherence” ofthe correlation, or a dramatic statistical lossof specific microscopic physical informationas the macroscopic level "

In the above he explains how the physical world they knew about could not rationally affect or transfer thoughts between living beings.

2. As you know the Eyes of the Vampire are key to a Vamps behaviour and are well documented on V.R. and i am not going to drag up eye colour and luminescence all over again.

3. The latest scientific journals on Photons (Light to everyone reading) and their behaviour have thrown up some really odd facts.
Photons can become (twinned) under certain circumstances when emmitted from certain sources*coughs*. In Labs they have found no matter how far apart the photons are what you do to one twinned photon directly affects its twin(In short they are bound by invisible forces we do not see or understand)
SPECULATION- I believe this is the missing link between the physical world and what Freud and others documented but stand to be corrected. A.N.

One link of several;
http://www.cebaf.gov/news/internet/1997/spooky.html

It was as if some ghostly bridge across the city of Geneva, Switzerland, had permitted two photons of light nearly seven miles apart to respond simultaneously to a stimulus applied to just one of them.

The twin-photon experiment by Dr. Nicolas Gisin of the University of Geneva and his colleagues last month was the most spectacular demonstration yet of the mysterious long-range connections that exist between quantum events, connections created from nothing at all, which in theory can reach instantaneously from one end of the universe to the other.

In essence, Gisin sent pairs of photons in opposite directions to villages north and south of Geneva along optical fibers of the kind used to transmit telephone calls. Reaching the ends of these fibers, the two photons were forced to make random choices between alternative, equally possible pathways.

Since there was no way for the photons to communicate with each other, "classical" physics would predict that their independent choices would bear no relationship to each other. But when the paths of the two photons were properly adjusted and the results compared, the independent decisions by the paired photons always matched, even though there was no physical way for them to communicate with each other.

Albert Einstein sneered at the very possibility of such a thing, calling it "spooky action at a distance." Scientists still (somewhat shamefacedly) speak of the "magic" of "quantum weirdness." And yet all experiments in recent years have shown that Einstein was wrong and that action at a distance is real.

So *Smiles* the dark Network is REAL !

well i get that a lot..that i think that i hear a ring..look up to my phone..nothing..5sec later i get a text or a call.

well the most recent thing was when i tried my abilities to send a messages to random people..after meditation i started to send a message "pink cactus"...then i asked few people (it was on cam..so live chat) to pick a color and plant...girl said black rose, guy said red rose(or smthng like that)..then i said "dont try to pick goth thing"...and guy said "hm..now i can think just about pink cactus"...

A random occurrence of my own is that I tend to have an urge to take my phone out of my handbag right before I receive a text message. So I'm either getting a premonition right before it happens....or I can pick up phone signals. Either way it's kinda interesting.

MindxBender,

Some people are affected by electromagnetic fields given off by power lines, breakers, etc., maybe you're being affected by the small field that your phone is giving off right before a call?

I can't say for sure, but it's a theory I've heard of that has affected other people I know.

You are correct ladyace,it does .A LOT actually. Difference is ELF exposure produces certain symptoms .Getting a "premonition" before someone calls doesnt really fit.But yes,you're right in that there have been plenty incidences here one might think that something paranormal is going on when it is actually ELF.

I think if someone has a strong bond with someone else that they can know what that person is feeling through the senses as well as the actions I think twins have that capability

It seems like some kind of telepathy to me, especially if it's someone you haven't talked to in awhile or don't know very well.

However, with lovers or other people you have close connections to, I think it could be something else entirely. I think the bonds of love are deeper than we know, so people who love each other could be connected on some sort of psychic level.

I can sens some people when they are reading my stuff or messaging me, before going to check i can sens they had, as my belly makes a small uneasiness and my back bone is all chilled and there is 2 sensations I get 1 is for a positive thing and the second is when somethingbad happens I do not like the seocnd one, I use to feel that mainly from one man, and also from my kids or family, I feel it, like a word in my mind spoken then like a warning or a hello...

also I know when my phone will ring before it happens, I see it ring before it does.

And I see in people'e eyes a few days before their death that they will die... when that happens I hate it.

Definitely believe in telepathic abilities. I, being Sang/Psy hybrid, have always felt these 'auras/emotions/feelings' from people. And there's times where I sync up with someone and thinking about them and they will call usually later that day or the next. Or if I'm thinking about my mother, she'll call me in about ten minutes (or text me). Same thing she said if she's thinking about me, I'll end up calling or texting her within about ten minutes or so. It never fails. My mother is also a Sang/Psy as well as was her mother (at least the Psy part we are certain) as well as her younger brother (also showing Psy abilities). They would always have a way of knowing if the other was thinking about each other from far away. Even my brother also being a Sang/Psy also has the same thing if I'm thinking about him or he's thinking about me. Even my teacher (who I believe is also a Psy--she has that aura around her that I get around other Sangs/Psys as well as knows about them too) says she'll think of someone and within a day she'll get a call from them.
So yes, I do believe in telepathic abilities.

You can also have a type of psychic empathy that happens with certain events. There've been reported cases of husbands sudden;y getting strange ill feelings as their wives were giving birth.

But your minds,what makes these incidences telepathy as opposed to entrainment?

whether or not someone somewhere is laughing and clapping their hands, or is willing to give money to see it done

These things also appear to be especially strong on twins as well. People have reported getting a feeling during several times, calling their sibling only to discover the feeling was confirmed by an event

Under extreme stress I seem to emit frequencies that interfere with Vhf radios...it becomes white noise. I think I could use this to make you look at your watch. Which is handy if I want to be naughty .

That sounds like it would actually come in handy in certain situations, but is it just when you're under stress?

Any way you can record and /or video that in action Contessa?

thinking of people then they call....

perhaps electronic surveillance?

lol
~W~

I think it is an advanced form of a empathetic ability. im an empath and I do this all the time. But i usually end up picking up the phone before it even has a chance to ring or i call them at the exact same time witch really gets frusturating because it rings busy and you can never get through.

I do also Cassie,as do many others here.It is actually very common.
But the main key to empathy and most likely telepathy is the concept known as entrainment. This is to say in a nutshell that your brainwaves would match those of another person, and that you are both in the same mental state at the same time.

This has pretty much run its course.

When I was younger I always knew who was calling. Mind you, that was before caller id. I also always knew when my mother needed me. It wasn't about patterns. It was just a tight bonding.

Telepathic abilities is very real aswell as simple to use, It isn't legendary or fake. Since we humans are made of 70%~90% water we are very receptive, no matter if a person is psychic or not. "I played around with this at age 11"

My Aunt Leslie did that to my father at least once. My dad called her after over 5 years of silence between then and she knew it was him, and she doesn't even have caller ID. She has one of those old fashioned phones.

I believe its both empathic and telopathic, if you want some one to call you and you think about it and they call shortly is telepathic, otherwise its empathic and you just sense one's intentions

There used to be an old definition of psychics. Mental and physical mediums. Now, in more modern times both can be the case. Psychic activity seems to be viewed as more bi-directional

I read all those posts and everything seems to agree and then disagree. Well here is another thought that might help.

Precognition is defined as the ability to see the future, and act on that information to change the future. There are generally two types of precognition: long - range precog and battle precog. Long - range precog is the ability to see events far in the future, which is useful for planning long - term strategies. Battle precog allows you to see things accurately in the immediate future, allowing you to predict where and how your opponent will attack and defend and use that information to gain an advantage. Of course, there are degrees of precog. Sometimes it isn't always accurate, or provides limited information, so it's hardly a catchall defense to any attack, and usually not a substitute for an overwhelming speed advantage.

As Telekinesis is this stated below this post.

Telekinesis is the ability to move objects and exert physical force without actually touching said objects (often this implies fine control of such force as well). The cliche description of telekinesis is "the ability to move things with your mind", although this is misleading as telekinetic powers can come from other sources aside from psychic abilities. Telekinesis is often abbreviated as TK.

So you may now have a new way of looking at the subject. Be creative with Precognition. Because some times it actually works. Like sensing a phone ringing before it actually happens. Or knowing something before it happens. Try it. It may take a few tries on accurately using it.

I know for my own experiances that this can and does happen from time to time. As the last person stated that an example would be of knowing the phone was going to ring before it rings.

There have been several times that I felt that a deer was going to jump out infront of me on my way home from work and of those several times all 3 of them a deer jumped out infront of me at the last minute but because I felt something was going to happen I had enough time to avoid being hit.

Some people always believe that twins have this time of ability as do mothers and their children.

To a degree they actually do. As the baby grows older. The mother and child lose the closenes they once had. A connection of deep spirituality is the cause of the baby and mother type.

The Twin effect one. It is either of the same gender. Or different gender. Depends mostly. A deep and physical connection of one twin being the same as the other, gender and all have a far more possibility of this happening than a sister twin and a brother twin. As some do say that the spirit does split and enters both bodies. Though by debate this is false. It is a spiritual connection of sharing somethin special that noone else can take away is the key factor in this. Twins can tell at times. (Not all the time.) That the other is either in trouble, or something bad is going to happen to the other. Vise versa on the equation as well.

Spiritual connectivity is a high and complicated level of binding. It makes one person feel and share in the experience of pain, or pleasures. Depending on the emotion and understanding of the twins.

Yes all good valid points. The connection between mother and child I think is one of the highest levels of this type of connection. Of course this is just my opinion. But I also think that this also applies to people and their pets as well.

As there have been many seeing eye dogs and other types used to assist the disabled and those that have epilepsy as well.

Everything you have mentioned..more perfect examples of entrainment. ;)