i have read alot about this person/thing and i have seen the movie.... i just want to know what everyone else thought about it
AHhh he is from where I live ...
He was supposed to have caused many things to happen ... There has been many sightings of him in Point Pleasant W.v.......
Mothman is the name given to a strange creature reported in the Charleston and Point Pleasant areas of West Virginia between November 1966 and December 1967. The creature was sporadically reported to be seen before and after those dates, with some sightings as recent as 2007.
Most observers describe the Mothman as a winged man-sized creature with large reflective red eyes. It often appeared to have no head, with its eyes set into its chest. A number of hypotheses have been presented to explain eyewitness accounts, ranging from misidentification and coincidence to paranormal phenomena and conspiracy theories.
is this what you speak of?
It's the message rather than the form of the deliverer that is interesting... since the term "Angel" means "messenger" I think this is in the right section....
I only know of it from a documentary on Space Channel here in Canada. They sent a group to the city to interview witnesses.
From what I gather, the Mothman is listed as everything from being Alien, to Angel to a mutant bat.
I have to admit, I find it alittle freaky that he appeared right around a bunch of different disasters.
My belief is that it is more mutant then anything alien.
Point Pleasant, West Virginia, during 1966 and 1967, focusing on sightings of a creature dubbed Mothman. It also includes Keel's theories about UFOs, Men in Black, ghosts, and other paranormal phenomena, as well as the December 15, 1967, collapse of the Silver Bridge across the Ohio River from Point Pleasant to Gallipolis, Ohio.
My understanding is that it was something that came as a curse from a local native american tribe. Had to do with some whiteman killing an indian and the curse was that this mothman would get revenge. At least that is how I remember some of the research from years back. Might be wrong on that one though.
I live in WVa as well and the movie was a load of crap.I don't believe in it nor do I think it ever existed...It is like mass hysteria..one person says they saw something...everyone else want to be in on it and they say they saw it as well.
IU've read a lot about the mothman phenomena and it really does freak me out. There were a lot of eye witnesses in the Point Pleasant area before the collapse and they seem authentic.
there is a movie about it called the mothman prophesies with richard gear. its an amazing movie. and there have been many theories about the mothman. from what i know he is over 6ft tall dark. and has gleaming red eyes. he appears near times of natural disaster (from what i noticed in researching) the government tried to act like these sightings were hallucinations from a leak at the nuclear plant. It was a big deal situation with a big deal cover up ... adn actually its a great forum question... jus worded a little wrong. I will look up a good reference site so we can discuss.
wikipedia had everything i was thinking of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothman
(i apologize, i dont know how to make that a workable link)
In the Old Testament flying vehicles were referred to as chariots... could the description of the man as looking like a moth be an abstraction of an angelic being...
the mothman have been seen in other parts of the world as well as the US
PLEASE watch "the Mothman Prophecies" A film about this Phenomenon, Based on a true Story.
so far I see alot of interesting information on the subject, some contradictions but still good information, thank you all, Arvalin thank you also for the specific info you braugh in, very interesting.
I have both the movie and an Unsolved Mysteries segment done on the Mothman. I've read up quite a bit on the case, and find it very interesting.
It has been suggested that the Mothman could be a mutant bird created by toxic means or government testing of some sort (I apologize, as I can't remember the specifics). David Farrant, the president of the British Psychic and Occult Society, has even suggested in the past that the Mothman could be England's infamous "Highgate Vampire".
Certainly an interesting case to be sure.
heres a link about the mothman
http://www.prairieghosts.com/moth.html
The Mothman was reportedly first sighted on November 12, 1966 by Lonnie Button, at the time a young boy. Five men were preparing a grave in a cemetery near Clendenin, West Virginia, when they reportedly saw a "brown human shape with wings" soaring from behind trees and flying over their heads. The sighting was not made public until later, and the first sighting reported in the media occurred three days later.
On November 15 1966, two young married couples from Point Pleasant, Roger and Linda Scarberry and Steve and Mary Mallette, were on a late night drive in the Scarberrys' car. They were passing the West Virginia Ordnance Works, an abandoned World War II TNT factory, about seven miles north of Point Pleasant, in the 2500 acre (10 km²) McClintic Wildlife Station, when they noticed two red lights in the shadows by an old generator plant near the factory gate. They stopped the car, and were startled to discover that the lights were actually the glowing red eyes of a large animal, "shaped like a man, but bigger, maybe six and a half or seven feet tall, with big wings folded against its back," according to Roger Scarberry. Terrified, they drove toward Route 62, where the creature chased them at speeds exceeding 100 miles per hour.
Going down the exit road, they saw the creature standing on a nearby ridge. It spread its wings and flew alongside their car to the city limits. They drove to the Mason County courthouse to alert Deputy Millard Halstead, who later said "I've known these kids all their lives. They'd never been in any trouble and they were really scared that night. I took them seriously." He followed Roger Scarberry's car back to the TNT factory, but found no sign of the strange creature. According to the book Alien Animals, by Janet and Colin Bord, a poltergeist attack on the Scarberry home occurred later that night, during which the creature was seen several times. The following night, on November 16, several armed townspeople combed the area around the TNT plant for signs of Mothman. Mr. and Mrs. Raymond Wamsley and Mrs. Marcella Bennett with baby daughter Teena in tow were in a car en route to visit friends, Mr. and Mrs. Ralph Thomas, who lived in a bungalow among the "igloos" (concrete dome-shaped dynamite storage structures erected during WWII) near the TNT plant. The igloos were now empty, some owned by the county, some by companies intending to use them for storage. They were headed back to their car when a figure appeared behind their parked car. Mrs. Bennett said it seemed like it had been lying down, slowly rising up from the ground, large and gray, with glowing red eyes. While Wamsley phoned the police, the creature walked onto the porch and peered in at them through the window.
An eyewitness's sketch of the Mothman.On November 24, four people saw the creature flying over the TNT area. On the morning of November 25, Thomas Ury, who was driving along Route 62, just north of the TNT, claimed to have seen the creature standing in a field, and then spread its wings and flew alongside his car as he sped toward the Point Pleasant sheriff's office.
On November 26, Mrs Ruth Foster of Charleston, West Virginia reportedly saw Mothman standing on her front lawn, but the creature was gone by the time her brother-in-law went out to look. On the morning of November 27, it apparently pursued a young woman near Mason, West Virginia, and was reported again in St. Albans the same night, by two children
A Mothman sighting was again reported on January 11, 1967, and several other times that same year. Fewer sightings of the Mothman were reported after the collapse of the Silver Bridge, when 46 people died. The Silver Bridge, so named for its aluminum paint, was an eyebar chain suspension bridge that connected the cities of Point Pleasant, West Virginia and Gallipolis, Ohio over the Ohio River. It was built in 1928 and collapsed on December 15, 1967; investigation of the wreckage pointed to the failure of a single eye-bar in a suspension chain due to a small manufacturing flaw.
In the wake of Mothman and Other Curious Encounters (ISBN 1-931044-34-1), author Loren Coleman was contacted by those linked to the events issuing from Point Pleasant, and he began a study of the so-called "Mothman Curse,"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mothman
wth, that is a first for me Lavisbre. I have never seen a "blood drinking" moth before. I guess we don't get those on the West coast? Not in the desert anyways.
The movie "Mothman Prophecies" was the worst, slanderous piece of dump I've ever seen. And I saw Farenheight 9/11. Loosely based on a true story. Very loosly. They used a fuck-ton of "artistic license" on it. And from the looks of that statue, they did it there too.
The majority of sightings of the Mothman, were by people saying they saw him sitting outside their window, or standing in their yard. There were very few of it being agressive, usually only when people were coming close to the dynamite factory, though there were other reports of "agression" elsewhere. There was one report of Mothman killing a man's dog, but the man described the Mothman a little differently than everyone else. Namely, saying it had arms. The other descriptions always said they didn't see it's arms, and didn't think it had any.
I remember seeing the movie a long time ago, its still in the DVD collection. I was freaked out by it. But as people here have been saying, its based on a true story?
I've heard that it was just a 'peeping tom" looking in on women from the street. This scared them and since it was at night they had the mass hysteria thing and the mothman was born.
Ok.. first off, this is in the proper section. It deals with the paranormal.
You people need to leave those decisions to the people Cancer appointed to do that... the Dominars.
I'm not going to post much right now, I need to go back and re-read a few things, but there have been some very, very strange things that have happened that were attributed to the Mothman. I'm not going to say that it necessarily exists, but there are a lot of things involved that don't have superficial normal explanations.
Th e movie that was made about the mothman was pretty good but as with all movies they add and take things away, i believe it is probablly a ghost...
I do not agree that it is a bunch of hooey, I do believe that myths are built for children to believe and most open minded adults, the dryad theory is very relevant, that I would believe...More than likely it is the same as the urban legend of the space and time vortex taking people to differant parts of the world.
I have learnt a little bit about the mothman, I watched the movie with richard gere about Point Pleasent a few years ago and watched the extras on the dvd and found the story fascinating so did some research on it.
The Incas and American Indians believe in the mothman and also called him the Thunderbolt or hawk. I have forgotten which been a few years lol... but its a great subject and just another marvellous myth in this world today.
like most movies these days they are based around myths and legends from our past. I dont know how many vampire movies that have came out does that mean we cant talk about them.
I never heard of the mothman until my wife got the movie.
All through history there are stories of strange creatures being seen around areas leading up to a disaster and then disappear without trace. I believe mothman was in this league I am not sure if it was ever seen after the bidge collapsing...
Ok did a little research there were 3 Native American Indian tribes that have legends of the Thunderbird which is similar to the myth of the mothman.
Here is a link if anyone is interested.
http://paranormal.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/1999/Autumn/Thunderbird/
The Thunderbird and the Mothman are completely seperate. Do a little more research. The Thunderbird was supposed to have something close to a hundred foot wingspan (legends and conversions vary, but always huge), and be able to carry off an adult easily. The Mothman...eight feet.
Here is a good link that tells a basic outline of the mothman legend...
Legend of the mothman
my mother used to live close to point pleasant, and all though she has never seen or witnesses any mothman activity, she has known several people who allegedly have, weather or not it is real or all just a load of made up horseshit idk, but it is very intriguing to me as welll
The legend of the Mothman is long & varied. As John A. Keel describes in his book, The Mothman Prophecies. The story on who & what he might be range from the alien visitions to the manifestation of the 200 years old curse placed on the region by Shawnee Chief Cornstalk..Believe or not The sighting continues who seen the mothman with over 60 reports in the last 6 or so years alone in all over the world.
There was a study done on the mothmen called the mothman files in 1977 with eye witness accounts from all over. Even mounds found on one area that the people studying this said were where the mothmen may have been living. I don't really think this falls into the paranormal but more into the cryptozoology category
I believe that we will all see more and more things/creatures that no one has ever seen before...I also believe there is a so to speak a kind of spiritual warfare going on and that all these things/creatures that people are seeing may indeed be a part of the begining of this warfare.
And if it is..then it's most certainly possible.
Ok I learned something new today. I have never heard of the movie or even heard of the sightings until I read it here. Thanks for all the great info everybody.
I think there are so many things we don't understand out there. I believe he is out there somewhere just like bigfoot and nessy.
A few people are saying they do not believe in the mothman, but they believe in ghost, maybe the mothman is a ghost or spirit...
wow i actionly just watched weird travels on the travel channel and they had a story on it about the myth of the mothman prophecies. It was very intersting to i have also wondered about that to myself.
i've known about the moth man ever since i was a child. he was always described as an "angel."
when i saw the movie, it was nothing compared to what i was told.
the movie made it/him seem almost demonic and evil.
Honestly, there's not much that creeps me out in regards to the supernatural, but this does. The movie itself wasn't scary, but the thought of such a creature that predicts destruction and chaos? *shivers* I'm not sure I believe it's true though. However, I'm a firm believer in the possibility of anything. I like to keep my mind open until it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that something isn't real.
I think once again it's just an oversight of something someone saw and it got stretched out through every story
I've read a lot of theories on mothman and similiar creatures ..
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Dungeon/8511/moth.html
MOTHMAN: Eyewitness Descriptions Unfortunately, no photographs exist of the creature -- just like a bad monster movie where the camera jams or the film is not exposed properly. According to eyewitness accounts, Mothman stood taller than a man, at 6 or 7 feet, perhaps taller. Its most prominent features were the huge, featherless wings spanning 10 feet across; even more unusual were the huge, red, glowing eyes on the generally featureless face. Some eyewitnesses were unable to recall seeing a head; these reports stated the eyes were actually in the shoulder area where a neck and head "should" be. Few, if any, could remember details about the presence or type of feet the creature possessed. Eyewitnesses alleged that Mothman could fly without flapping its wings, and could match the speed of an automobile trying to flee at 100 miles an hour. The creature never seemed to flap its wings when rising from the ground -- it evidently was able to rise and float above the earth's surface with little or no effort, not making any sound or noise.
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Unsure what I think of it at this point.
~ Wolf
to me its just something that is seen on movies and in myths.but thats just my oppinion
There were more sitings of men in black than mothman! Theory is that the government was using the town as an experiment in using magnetism that had a side effect of paranoia. Which matches very closing to what actually has reported.
Easier and safer to believe in supernatural I guess.
I also believe that when one person see's something a lot of other will say they seen it to, so they can be part of something, but everyone is not like that and their has been many cases about the mothman, so everyone who seen him could not be lying they must have seen something weird, what it was no one will really know but it had to be something that freaked them out bad enough for them to go to the police and tell them what they seen...
Many peoples around the world have versions of the Mothman. Spirits or beings that will warn areas in times of danger. What are they... I suppose how you see them will depend on your view. I tend to side with those that listen to the warnings of such creatures. I believe they are here to help and guide us. Unless I am mistaken other than frightening people with how he appears he has not been at all hostel or threatening. So to me it seems like he is here to help.
The movie sucked major,, Left out half the book... I reccomend readint the book it is great. Some say the mothman appeared in a small town in MD and that somehow it helped to cause this bridge to colapse. It appeared to certain people who only describe seeing Red Glwoing eyes and a winged figure all black... Very interesting story.
there is a man by the name of Bill Knell (sp?) who knows quite a bit about the so called mothman and he had a web site up back in 99 , that ended up getting shut down by the Govt...
I just don't know about this stuff. Maybe one person saw it. I think sometimes people find comfort in blaming something. No one wants to think trgic things just happen. It is soothing to our minds to give a reason. I don't know if he caused this. What if he was trying to warn?
There were documented cases that many people in this one specific town saw this odd winged creature...
It is an interesting story, and that is all that it will remain. The movie, for all its effort, did a horrible job of explaining the story behind it all...of course Hollywood was involved and all they wanted were seats at the theatre.
Mothman could possibly be linked to any sort of event.
Were Mothman an actual entity, which I believe it is not, then it would make sense that it would more, or less, be an angel of sorts. I cannot understand how a mutated bat/bird creature would be the cause of some sort of natural disaster.
i remember reading many years ago that mothman had been seen in vietnam by soldiers tripping out on LSD in the seventies.
if the area was being used as a government experiment on paranoia, could they have been contaminating the water supply or something with LSD? it was not unknown for government agents to do this in the sixties and seventies.
I think it is facinating to think so many people in one small little town all saw the same strange thing...Im just glad it was not my town lol
this is the first time of me hearing about it and i did read something about it on the internet.. please forgive me if this link is already posted
this bloodlust link that she couldnt get to work but here goes..
the mothman....
Personally i don't know if the mothman would be real, fake, or a myth. The only movie that i think would be close to the truth on the mothman would have to be the mothman prophicies.
The movie was utterly disappointing and almost hysterical in just how bad a travesty of film it was.
As far as the true existence of the Mothman goes...A story blown out of proportions, someone saw something they couldn't explain one time...in the dark...in the woods...and thus began to tell the tale of being attacked by a mothman and it simply spread. A simple legend.
My mother's entire elder family --- her mother, father, aunts and uncles, plus her older sister --- claim to have seen an angel "only with antennae" and "the wings were fuzzy."
Strangely the creature chose to appear near the outhouse.
This was also where my aunt frequently saw a priest kneeling on the ground praying, only he was floating about 3 feet up.
All by the outhouse.
All in N.M.
They never spread the word about the sightings because they already had a reputation for certain morbid behaviors and other lunacies.
this was probably the original Mothman.
it just seemed very far fetched to me and maybe a ledgend or something yet i have not ever encountered him / it. so what do I know LOL
It really dose sound fascinating. But is it only about 'sightings', is there no other significance, dose 'Mothman' appear before or after an accident or disaster????