I'd just like to know beliefs on possession, if you think it happens or if people fake it or have possession like behavior due to mental disorders? if you believe in it, do you have experience with that sort of thing?
I do believe in demonic possession. But I do not think I myself have experienced that. But I have however channeled entities before through me.
I don't subscribe to demon possession, I see it as another way for people to shirk responsibility for impulsive behavior. Any negative behavior can be blamed on the "Demon". Its all one big act between the "possessed" and the "exorcist".
It's just those pesky aliens interfering with their play things.
Now science has almost proven their are millions of planets with various species out there, odd they don't show up more often?
The "Gods" that seeded this watery hole keep a pretty close eye, it's a logical conclusion.
Yey, go Galactic Police, I wanna join awesome job, where does one apply?
P.s.
I,ve nailed my CV to the roof.
..OK...my two cents to this topic: "Demonic Possession". Well, to believe in possession, you must believe first in demons. To believe in demons, you must believe in Hell, or whatever the organized churches called. "demonic Possession" (between quotation because is not a solid prof) can be the cause of a nerve condition or a body spasm, something that MD called: Epilepsy. So, I don't believe in demons possession, but, I do believe they exist and they are not interested in taking possession of a crappy Human Body...yes, We got crappy Body. Give me one reason as why those cute demons want to enter your Body??
Demonic Possession : Gyrating Perverts
Ok, i think it's just seizures. Demons exist I believe that but they can't possess you.
to the original poster i believe it can be authentic and happen but also there are those who pretend to fatten their wallets
in my opinion there are different levels and degrees of demonic possession and it never just happens by pure luck or bad luck lets say but i believe the possessee does something to open the doorway for that possession to take place
I believe it is very much possible. I have never come across anyone who has had an experience with it, however there's nothing to say or prove it's not possible. After all..all "lies" have a bit of truth in them somewhere, right? It had to start somewhere for it to come into existence, otherwise we wouldn't be debating it now.
i dont believe in demons per se....but i think possession is possible. just think...were someone that has a wicked sense of humor...or that is just wicked, to die, and they could possess, wouldnt they find it amusing to claim to be some devil or demon?
i believe in alot of things, but i just dont get the demons and devils thing.
~W~
Demonic POssessions happen. How does one fake these things? I feel that mental disorders may be a sign of demonic possessions if and when an individual feels that what he is experiencing is external to himself. Like it is not who he is. It takes a certain level of self-awareness to do this. I believe I have had experiences of these sort of things.
i have to agree with the majority of people here that state that it is possible, but i don't think it's at all like what you see in the movies. people that are possessed don't always know it. i don't know anybody who has been possessed, so this is just guessing on my part.
but yes, in my opinion it's possible.
do you believe that a spirit of any kind could in theory possess someone?
demonic or not.
~W~
I think we need to be very careful whenh describing what we think is demonic possesion. Oftentimes it might be the person is emotionally, and mentally imbalanced. There must be clear signs of phenomena involved before we come to a premature conclusion.
I've heard of angelic possessions where archangels possesses to give a message but that's not demonic
I think it may be possible however I have played with an ouiji bored and my friends and I have had strange stuff happen while we used it and after that a demon started follwing me i'm not kidding however posession has not happened to me or to the other people involed with the spirt bored
I believe that some people are more inclined to be possessed, but they have to be very open to the idea or thinking about something so bad that it allows the demon to enter their minds and in turn their bodies.
Here is what I found online about it:
http://isisinvestigations.com/demonarticles/signs_of_possession.html
When something like this is brought up to discussion, I always look for some type of research online about it, so I can help people understand what some people may be thinking and why they think that way.
I have several Mental Illnesses, but I am in no way Possessed by a demon, I know what is causing my seeing and hearing stuff and it isn't a demon, it is my own mind doing it to me. I have learned how to tell the difference between my real thoughts and those thoughts that come from my illness.
I agree with Angel that bad thoughts or negative thinking can attract negative entities . Often emotionally charged teenagers are the center of poltergeist activity and demonic possession .
I've had quite a few encounters with what i believe to be a demon and it regularly tries to possess me . It took it quite a while to take over my arms the first time , but now it can move much of my body and even effect my vocal cords , but as yet it can't form words . Sometimes i'm ok with it doing this , sometimes it freaks me out . It's taken over my body before and flipped me over on the bed with such force . This really freaked me out as i wasn't able to take control of my body , it had total control and i wasn't sure it would relinquish it .
This is a very sad subject in that ordinary people can expose themselves to something very dark.
The question in my mind is whether this is part of their own "Id" clasically referenced in the film forbidden planet.
When under a great deal of stress many species, such as gerbils and hamsters will slaughter their own offspring.
One likes to think apes are a step ahead but I have my doubts.
This survival mode seems to be apparent in soldiers with Post traumatic stress Disorder. They often kill loved ones and have little or no recollection of events.
Alcohol and drugs either free the dark within or allow it to manifest itself in ordinary life.
Can we truly hold such individuals responsible? I think not, often they are the true victims and kill themselves when they realise what they have done.
As for the truth behind behind such dark encounters, films like Apocalypse now, Charlie sheen killing the Sergeant (Tom Beringer)with the burning red eyes... mmm is society ready for the scary truth ?
...No, so lets just call it PtSd and ignore the mounting evidence that these individuals maybe innocent.
I've seen people with epilepsy toss a table easily during
an episode, but possession by an entity(ghost, demon,dybbuk, elementals)is pretty rare.
If you consider what has been written about magick in the past, they conjure both angels and those they call demons. I don't know what these things really are so I'm not going to state anything unequivocally. I have read a lot of cases over the years and have heard tape recordings and have seen documentaries on the topic. All I could put here is belief because there is no proof of what it is either non existent or existent. I personally know that some called demons are due to one religion naming gods of another as demonic/evil. It seems to me that many of the cases are connected to people who are highly religious so I would assume they believe in them and it could be an hysterical reaction to something that has happened in their life such as an unwanted pregnancy. As for Quija boards...it is just a board and nothing more. It is the person or persons that use it that can draw negativity to them. Same thing can be done with many divination devices. I hate how people use that board as a scapegoat for not using it correctly. I don't know how anyone could verify there is such a thing as a demon but those from the west always bring up demons and say nothing of Jinn...I find that very interesting. Something happens to these people but only individual belief systems give them a name. I simply don't know if what is happening to some people is real or not but when they speak a language they don't know or do other feats that most consider not possible...what is the explanation for that???
I was speaking to a devout Muslim about the devil, the call it the jinn. Interestingly some are good some are neutral, some are bad?
This seems very similar to the fine line between angels and deamons.
On the series ancient aliens there IS evidence of beings from space in pre-history and they too seem to have had different affects on society, some feared, some worshiped. They even speculate some mated?
Muslims believe you can get a Jinn to show out by beating the host with a Jinn stick...mmm might just work but beating it out of a living host will just make it go soemwhere else? unless you capture it leaving...anyone seen "the Entity", perhaps a bad Jinn.
Someone mentioned Angelic possession, well, if an angel take over your body and though, then, are you ok, because is an Angel from "God". But, if a cute Demon take over, now is a diabolic possession. See, Discrimination even exist when people talked about possession. Both are bad (if they exist) because you are not you anymore. Did you hear about our paralleled world, which the Vatican is very aware of the existence? perhaps, they considers themselves as protectors or warriors of the Human race. Impossible to believe...but true.
This is my belief. That if a person is trying to conjure a demon in order to harm and/or possess a person for hurtful reasons then that persons soul is more....how shall I word this... susceptible to the evil and negativity that they are trying to force upon another person. But if a person is a hypocrite and tries to act and do good while out in public around others that go to the same church as them but do evil behind closed doors then that's the type of person that deserves to have their demons come to a physical form.
i believe one hundred percent in ghosts and i think that they can posses anyone who they want i dont think that person has to be pure or evil i think its just whoever they want to posses. i may not have first hand expierance but that doesnt mean they are not real.
Possession of any kind, demonic or otherwise... could be a sign of the "church's" power over society. Since the church is the only entity that can actually "declare" any type of possession to be an actual possession and not just someone crying out for attention.
Therefore, if the church deems it so, does it really mean an actual possession has taken place? Or is the church in all actuality just trying to keep its relative grip on the world by any means necessary?
Of course, true possessions have taken place, as unknown phenomena have occurred that could not be explained naturally. Not trick photography or equipment was used and the levitation period was very real. A few cases are documented and are archived by the Vatican.
I believe it's very real and possible, but there are also a lot of attention seekers out there who fake possession.
Yes. In hell there are 9 types of demons
Lust, Pride, Envy, Gluttony, Greed. Wrath. and Sloth.
Yes each is humanoid, but with special traits and abilities.
Another type of demon are regular ones. Yup just regular demons.
Lastly you have demons of creation. These can be anything the creator wishes or intended for.
Aside from demons there are other entities such as hellhounds.
Aside from that, I know of no other humanoid hell species capable of pocession.
I believe in demons. And in the demonic possesions. I have not experienced it. But yes, I believe it.
Demonic possession is real, and so are fakes. A cross blessed by a real priest (meaning one with true faith) will identify them. They will shy away from it.
DEMONIC POSSESSION IS REAL I HAVE HAD OVER 21 DEMONS IN ME AT ONE TIME AND AS A NECROMANCERS I HAVE HAD 54,000 SOULS IN ME AT ONE TIME THIS IS WHEN I WAS A HIGH PRIEST FOR THE SATANIC ORDER
Demons can be good or bad according to Ancient Greek mythology. You have good demons that could be considered angelic in nature, and bad demons which are the evil entities. This was even accepted in other cultures that spirits do exist and can take on whatever forms as a messenger from "God/Gods" to Man.
Even in Hinduism, the Asuras (Sanskrit) are a group of power-seeking deities, sometimes considered sinful and materialistic. The Daityas and Danavas together are Asuras. The Asura were opposed to the Devas. The Asuras were considered good for a time then fell into the Demonic nature.
So here you see, all ancient cultures and probably native tribes have their versions, stories etc of spiritual play in our material world.
Either way, they come through with messages to be delivered and i imagine if that were the case, then possession would be rather common. Possessions wouldn't necessarily be about wanting to take over the human body, but rather use it communicate where it's needed.
Also demons were brought up in the Pagan world, not really started in Christianity for the record.
Demonic Possession is something I have heard of for years. But have never seen it. I have friends who have seen it. I would like to witness it just once.
Me being a pagan, I think it is possible. Just not sure of it.
Last semester I wrote a mini paper on this very topic for my Abnormal Psychology class. I posted it in my journal but I will re-post it here.
Demonic Possession and Mental Illness
Psychiatric illness dates back thousands of years, including Mesopotamia, Ancient Babylon, just to name a couple. At first the symptoms were thought to be related to demonic possession. These symptoms ranged from verbal outbursts to violent behavior, spasms, paranoia and even self-mutilation. Today, psychiatrists and psychologists recognize that those symptoms and behaviors are not demonic possessions, but rather that they are related to disturbances in brain chemistry (Diamond).
With today’s technology we can reduce and sometimes eliminate some of the same symptoms with the proper medications. When treating those with severe psychiatric illness, the same symptoms return when they stop their medications, then goes away again when the medications are returned (Carver). Psychotherapy, like exorcism, commonly consists of a prolonged, demanding, soul-wrenching, sometimes tedious bitter battle with the patient's diabolically stubborn emotional "demons”. This can take time, waged over the course of years or even decades rather than weeks or months, and not necessarily always with absolute success (Carver). Psychiatrist M. Scott Peck correctly pointed out that, unlike psychotherapy, exorcism makes more use of power in waging war against the patient's sickness, and is usually conducted by a team of exorcists who attempt to overpower the patient's efforts to resist treatment (Diamond). In exorcism, the team invokes the power of God using prayers, commands, holy water, salt, and roses in order to drive the demon out, as opposed to applying therapies and or medications to relieve the symptoms of psychological turmoil.
The culture that one is brought up in plays a key role in how they view this subject; people are influenced by the experience and culture of the society in which they are raised. If a person does not believe in spirit possession they will not experience being possessed by outside beings (Bancoft). In some cultures spasms, self-mutilation, MPD, and Schizophrenia are sure signs of demonic possession. Yet, for others it can be medically explained and treated. In some cultures the exorcist functioned in much the same way doctors do now; people would visit the exorcist seeking a cure for illness or possession (Bancroft). In conclusion, it is a very thin line between demonic/spirit possession and mental illness, there are many elements to consider (such as the culture and beliefs of the client/patient) when diagnosing patients/clients.
References
Bancroft, MA, Mark. "History of Spirit Possession and Exorcism." EnSpire Press. Web. 21 Jan. 2012.
Butcher, James Neal, Susan Mineka, and Jill M. Hooley. "Chapter 2 Demonology." Abnormal Psychology. Boston, MA: Allyn and Bacon, 2004. Print.
Carver, PhD, Joseph M. "Is Demonic Possession Merely a Case of Psychological Illness?" CounsellingResource.com. Web. 21 Jan. 2012.
Diamond, PhD, Stephen. "Exorcism as Psychotherapy: A Clinical Psychologist Examines So-Called Demonic Possession | Psychology Today." Psychology Today: Health, Help, Happiness Find a Therapist. 2011. Web. 21 Jan. 2012.
Demonic Possession ,
a very troublesome and debatable topic especially with in most religions, the topic is very highly trampled on and is a cross between insanity and true demonic Possession.
I shall watch this page to learn more.
-Apache
I figured i should elaborate slightly more on this subject now that it had a chance to sink in: demonic possession, is defined as: Descriptions of demonic possessions often include erased memories or personalities, convulsions, “fits” and fainting as if one were dying.[1] Other descriptions include access to hidden knowledge (gnosis) and foreign languages (glossolalia), drastic changes in vocal intonation and facial structure, the sudden appearance of injuries (scratches, bite marks) or lesions, and superhuman strength.
AS defined via wikipedia, now according to the catholic church of the 900 reported cases every year per perish, only 2 may be real , they seem to think that most of it stems from: Schizophrenia which is a mental disorder that makes it hard to: Tell the difference between what is real and not real; Think clearly; Have normal emotional responses; Act normally in social situations.
So prior to there evening being a casting, they have many trials and test that have to be done prior to a exorcism even being considered, of which only a hand full of priest can actually preform it. so there is my take on it based on fact.
-Apache
I have thought very hard about adding my experience here.
I believe, without a shadow of a doubt, that demonic possession is real.
I have been witness to both possession and an exorcism. The exorcism was performed by Father Gregory Jordan, an 80yr old Jesuit Priest. He is the appointed exorcist to the archdiocese of Brisbane. He is one of the most amazing men I have had the pleasure of meeting.
In my opinion, true demonic possession can not be mistaken for anything else.
See this is the thing, I spent a great deal oftime attempting to be possessed and it just didn't happen....
I mean, I had possessive girlfriends, who attempted to possess me, but that was as far as it went!
Though Mrs ban said that I am possessed because I am a C##t most of the time....Hmm not the same thing I am sure.
So, unless I see it, feel it, and experience it.....I find that I am not able to believe in it at the moment.
Demon Possession is equivalent to Epilepsy or having a Seizure?...o.O...Seriously?..To pass such a thing off as that, people...please...read up a bit on the new age of Neuroscience and leave the assumptions of our forebears behind us.
Demons are Spirit and all Spirit has the capacity to be Good, Evil and Everything in-between. However, the worst demons are those we manifest within ourselves. As to why would a demon possess a human body? Those that possess, do so to destroy the will of the owner, just as a thief in the night comes silently to steal away our sense of security.
I think it could happen but I think a lot of times people use it to hide other issues or to excuse behavior that isn't accepted a true demonic possession wouldn't only happen when they wanted it too and I don't think it would be easy to come out of.
Demonic possession is nearly impossible to identify at certain times. If someone levitates, starts speaking in languages they couldn't have known, or bends their limbs without breaaking bone or feeling pain are prominent signs of possession but not exclusively demonic. Just because the "spirit" or person claims to be a demon doesn't necessarily mean it is true. That and the person could just be suffering some supernatural mental disorder that allows them these things. However, under no circumstances, is it ever safe to assume this person is faking. By assuming they are and leaving them to their own devices you risk having them harm themselves and those around them.
I actually think it happens more than ever before. More and more humans dabble into the occult and other spiritual/philosophic ideologies that they are ignorant about. Demons, I feel are only a label. They are other dimensional entities, and a whole host of other beings out there that are unknown rather than just to be labeled demons. It really is the unknown due to so much being kept from us.
In the sense I think the term, "demonic possession," is meant here, I think it is extremely rare but possible. I believe the majority of such cases can be attributed to mental/emotional issues, or possibly medical ones. I have not had any direct experience with a person possessed.
Nope. Don't personally believe in demonic possession at all. I know there is at least one Evangelist making a living in this subject. Good for him that there is always someone in the audience that is possessed and even better that they get un-possessed within the hour show. "The power of Christ" works wonders I guess.
I'm a big believer that our own minds are far more powerful than we give it credit for. For the most part, we all have some duality within ourselves. How easy is it that we don't cross a few wires and fizz ourselves at times? Its a wonder we stay as sane as long as we do.
Ok so.... Here we go.
Here is my own beliefs.
-One is yes I do believe in the existence of demons, why, you may ask is because I am a host to a demon wolf.
-Have I ever experimented or tried to cause demonic possession, well that one is a no.
-The way I see it is to be possessed is to have a weak mind. That or be despret for attention.
-How I see it relating to illnesses is in the form of hallucinations causing a person to act out.
demonic possessions are not as common as they used to be. as medical science progresses more and more people are starting to see the scientific side of things, and many dont procede to blame the devil for bad things any more. Perhaps alot of possessions werent real in the first place. But there are many cases of real ones out there, you just have to look.
I personally do not agree with the theories of demonic possession. I feel that people can be haunted by ghosts and other such things like that can occur, but I just don't see it being logical that a demon could live within someone. On a related topic I do feel that people can be demons though. In other words, rather than having a demon in them, they themselves would be the demon.
I have read that if one angers a demon, or deceives them that the demon may cause their life to be a living hell. Possession being one of those consequences.
Humans are already possessed....by their emotions and beliefs, it can compel them to do stupid things and even cause some to do brilliant displays of brutality.
Desire is another thing that possesses the meat puppets, as their hunger for something can drive them to do things no other person would do. A hunger for power and domination is more common but effective as even a single human can have a country or more by its throat and on its knees with sheer power.
Bad thoughts cause illness of the mind, body, and spirit. If left alone it can spread and bring in stronger negative beings. There are stories of our Medicine Women being possessed from time to time in attempts to exorcise the "demons" of other people. More often than not, the stories teach us not to take on more than we can handle. I believe that those "possessed" have just sucked up so much negativity that they have literally lost their minds. And once one loses his mind, it's very hard to control what he says and does because he is no longer technically there.
I believe that demonic possessions can happen to people in real life. ..I wonder how I would act if I was possessed.. I love to watch it in horror movies but I do dislike it when people die from being possessed.
I do. Believe in the demon coming into a mortal . I have seen it happen. No one is safe from it. In some cases it is a mental disorder. But most times it is not.
Majority of the time it is a disorder or other mental disturbance. Even 'unexplained' phenomena associated with being proof of supernatural interference has occurred. (Such as levitation, knowledge of new languages, etc).
It honestly depends on experience and what you believe. The mentally disturbed can be very convincing and on such a frightening topic it's easy to leave things to a simple, though unrealistic explanation.
Creepy stuff either way.
Yes I believe. Why else would I write about hell and killer ghost.
I personally would say it is nothing more than something along the lines of "split personality disorder" along with religious teachings. Have you ever heard of a possession in someone that does not believe in them or demons? It is nothing more than the brain creating a personality so the person does not feel bad about what they are doing. So yes I say mental disorder.
Having been a xtain minister and seeing these so called possessions, in my opinion it's all hokum. Imbalanced people who need to blame certain manic behaviours on another force to justify unbalanced hehaviours and actions
I think it could be possible, but would have to see
it to believe it, but I don't think I want to see it, probably
would haunt me for the rest of my life. I also think in
some cases, it could be mental....
Some say it is all based on your religious views or how open you are to other (spirit) dimensions or however you would like to call it. Either way, there will always be things we can't understand, comprehend, or stop. The thing we can do is start them.
It's best not to toy with something you don't understand. Whether or not a person them self is or can be controlled or possessed is always going to be open to critic unless you are the person and it actually happened to you (this is just and example not a personal view) you would then know it was true.
Either way, my advice is, it's best not to toy with things that you can't see. Rather be safe.
I've been to these so called demonic exorcisms. It's all hokim. Mentally unbalanced people or those given to gtsterical behaviours
i personally believe it happens and me personally i havent ever had any experience of it but i have seen it happen on a show called paranormal state and they have proved time and time again that it happens
yes possesion is real and it can happen to anyone who is weak willed or who askes it to come into there being
you dont have to be weak to invite it in it can also happen t people who have emotion problems
Problem is there's very litlle way to accurately document such and occurrance
Yes I believe in demonic possession. I've been possessed twice. Once when I was 18, and another time when I was 19. Both times I was exorcised. The last one was the most intense; I died once the demon left my body. My heart had stopped, and my breathing had stopped for a few seconds. Even in those few seconds, I saw the afterlife for a moment. It was odd....everything was white. I saw a copy of myself (turned out to be my conscience), and I was wondering where I was. I told my conscience that I must be asleep. My conscience asked what I was doing asleep during an exorcism? And then I came back.
Possession of any sort can be very fun, but also deadly, you can also leave your body without dying, but since it is so dangerous and you are held responsible for what ever anything does in your body I highly recommend only doing it under the supervision of someone who knows how to keep you from being killed, arrested, or grounded if you are still a child
In light of all these posts,I have a question for anyone who can address it..
When a demon posseses someone,do they suddenly become confined to physical limits just like a soul does when in the human body?
I personally don’t believe in demonic possession as there have to be demons for that to happen. Although I do believe in spirits possessing people if that person is capable of channeling spirits.
In the past epileptic seizures could be a reason for a person being classed as ‘possessed’ or as stated above it’s could be caused by a mental imbalance.
I dont believe in it either Twisted.People are very capable of contorting,screaming,talking in weird languages and making one think they were possessed..and it can be pretty scary.epilepsy can be very scary actually.
I believe it takes place and happens more often then we know. Its just not always done up so grand like 5 year olds glued to the walls hissing at you..
Well maybe..my kids are pretty evil..lol
But It happends as a way for them to give messages.
however as Ive seen it done its more of a channaling then possession
I personally believe that demons are created by the minds of humans. I believe that thought forms have power if given the power by our will. However, I also believe that these beings created can become so powerful and intelligent to became real, at least in a spiritual sense. I believe that they can affect others in such a way in order to keep existing probably. I also believe there are other beings out there that are not exactly evil but are part of nature to keep things in balance, just like nature does.
Demon possession happens when it's either invited or when someone doesn't have much of a will power. I do not believe this link is permanent unless they are greatly affected. I also believe that it's possible that "crazy" people could also just be possessed. It doesn't remove them from the actions they have made, but it does offer up an explanation as to why they did what they did. However, it does not excuse them from the action or actions performed.
I do not believe that you have to be in the christian hell to believe in demons. I believe that was adapted from other religions and the like. I believe demons are completely separate from that religion and have their own wants and desires IF they are intelligent beings.
demonic possessiopn is a number of things however only real in the christian viewpoint.
Demons though are within different cultures through out the world, not just the christian perspective of it all. So that statement is technically false and misinformed. Because there are creatures in other cultures whom they named demons.
I believe that possesion exists demonically or not. Any one can be posessed by any entity. But no I do not have any experience in this...just knowledge
I believe it is possible.
But a very rare thing. I also believe in almost all cases it's due to a certain biological disorder in the mind and or body of the "victims".
I do not believe it happens in adults like most think. They no longer hold an innocent that can be taken over by some "demon". I think if a demonic possession occured, it would be through a child. An innocent mind can be tainted, corrupted, and manipulated in ways an adult cannot.
I also think if it happened to an adult- it would be through some form of physic, physical, or emotional illness leaving them weak to fight off an eternal invasion like that. But rarely do I think it can or does happen. And I highly doubt the records of any "documented" demonic possessions.
I don't believe in Demons at all. I think it is just a tag used to label anything certain cultures found evil. Iblis is the evil entity to Muslims. Jinn as I mentioned before is a race of beings who are invisible but can appear to some at will created supposedly prior to man from smokey fire as opposed to man out of clay and angels out of fire and light I believe it is. From the viewpoint of most magickians an angel is neither good or evil. They are messengers that do a task. They have armies and have wars. They can be summoned (supposedly) to do either a positive or negative act. Some of the things concerning demons is pure superstition. I cannot say that someone cannot be possessed but when you see them doing exorcisms in the East it is always Jinn. They don't use the term demon exactly. People cannot pin down what shadow people are other than a number of theories. I know that the word demon from it's main source just meant more like a guardian that inspired and nothing dark really. I think the belief is a matter of culture. I have watched a lot of ghost hunting things and if the energy seems heavy, described often as negative then the word demonic comes up. I do believe when people die their personalities don't change and those that did terrible things I think might be behind some of it. I often think they use a lot of the names that are expected just for shock value but as to whether it is the person themselves or something supernatural I don't know...we all just have our own beliefs on the matter. People have had some very scary experiences but for anything to manifest to the physical realm they really have to lower their frequency and accumulate a lot of energy from those around them or the environment and why it gets so cold but I'm not sure if at times things people think are demonic aren't a way someone or something is actually trying to communicate with others...who knows.
i summon demons some times using mainly the lesser key of solomon and silver seals. i am also a starving vampire i might have to reduce my self to lamb blood but besides demons have more power over people who are connected to powers or relms now with the power people if they dont learn to train their self to use it to repel and not attract or leave it dull cause if alot of unknown power is in some one and their blind to it they will be open to attack with their own energy all demons are weak in our relm so only when theirs either a connection or power can they possess a person now the unknown unpurposeful connection to other relms is extremely rare now lets say they dont have protection from their own connection demons can ride on them through out their lifes powered.
spirits are entirely diffrent but i need to find my drink
Schizos and madmen would likely have been mistaken for people possessed in the old superstitious days....shame some people have not grown out of it yet.
A vessel of flesh is "possessed" or rather encases a life force. There is energy not encased or possessed by matter as well as there is matter that does not house an energy of information other than what it has been given which is to hold form an be what it is. What you invite into your own or what you project outwards still remains a mystery to some I suppose. (Demonic possession) Is such a thing possible? What is a demon?
I work in a Mental Ward and I will tell you that lots fake it.. however I do believe there are that has had this happen.. and the proof is things such as knowing languages one would not know and so forth.. at any rate this is nothing to mess with.. I have patients that scare the shit out of me with this
Many religions believe in some form of possession, and have rituals that are geared towards removing the 'evil' spirit. I don't think its just based on a 'Christian viewpoint'.
I do believe that demons exist. Do I always believe that everyone who claims possession has been? No. I fear that a great many people use that kind of thing, and many other excuses as something to blame their bad behavior on, and to avoid taking resposibility for their actions. I also believe that if demons are as powerful as some people believe, why in the world would they bother with humans?
Demonic possession, in my opinion, exists because of exorcism. We're all familiar with witchcraft, my friend was in a demonic coven, he was frequently possessed. He left and now the possessions have stopped. To me that is proof of Demonic Possession.
Sometimes I wonder if it's possible, because you look at someone and the way they act and think that it possibly couldn't be a human behavior. Most of the time, though, I just assume it's a mental illness. I've felt that I lost complete control of myself, but then again that could just have been my extreme anger and rage that I let build.
When I was in xtain ministry there were sessions of exorcisms to say the least. I've come to realise it's all hokum. people use any excuse to speak on behalf of strange irrational behaviours.
If it was actually true, people could use it in court as defence in criminal courts. The devil made me do it.
I believe its a 50/50. I believe some fake it for attention and fame which eventually has made people more skeptical when someone does experience demonic possession. But those that do experience said phenomena are effected dramatically . Some never fully recover as far as living a normal life among the populace is concerned.
True 99.9% are fake but some rare cases are very interesting, and may not be the bad thing people suppose.
It definitely happens... I have a friend and it happened to her son. He was only 5 it was really very scary. They finally had to get a priest.
I believe some claims are falsified for various reasons but also many claims are true.
I have a hard time believing in things I have not seen....
Mastermel, with respect, that is exactly the reason the authorities will never ever agree it is possible.
It would undermine the very fabric of our justice system and cause chaos. This, is very understandable, therefore those souls who are taken, if indeed it occurs, have little or no hope of redemption.
To quote a senior politician/lawyer"its just the world we live in."
Not so long ago I found an interesting article about a disease with symptoms similar to a demonic possession:
"More disturbing evidences of vaccine-induced brain damage are emerging in the U.S. as primarily young women are increasingly developing a mysterious autoimmune condition known as anti-NMDA receptor encephalitis that exhibits symptoms similar to demonic possession. According to a recent report by CBS Philly, young women who develop the condition may act normally one minute, and the next minute develop extreme paranoia or an inability to control their limbs, which experts admit is a result of antibodies attacking the brain, causing swelling and inflammation."
Source:
http://www.naturalnews.com/039274_mysterious_disease_women_demonic_possession.html#ixzz2M808esMj
From my own experience, you can channel other spirits through others if their minds have that "open door"so-to-speak. It doesn't work with everyone.
Demons have always been recognized as part of our world. If you believe in souls, reincarnation, some type of afterlife, then believing in spiritual entities that are either "light or chaos" natured...then possession is going to be accepted. We ourselves are possessing our bodies so what is so difficult to understand here?
I believe possession only happens when it is allowed. I have felt different gods and goddesses come "inside" but they weren't controlling me or really possessing me. It was more like a mental connection in which they placed thoughts into my head and "spoke" to me. Though they didn't have control over my body even though I had welcomed them within. We often communicate now in this way. Though I don't actually hear the thoughts like you would in your ear. I "hear" them through thought which often comes through to me as my thoughts, like an inspiration.
As for demonic possession, I've never encountered a demon before so I can't speak of that, but I don't believe they are all evil, considering some daemons were made by humans ages ago which still exist today in certain groups and in the astral realm. My thoughts still stand on possession though, even for this.
I think possession of any kind is very over exaggerated and people like to get attention in this way. The things we see on tv are not actual reality of how things of how the spiritual and physical interact with each other. I mean, I've had plenty of experiences to note of what is more likely to happen than what people think is going to happen. Most stuff like I said, highly over exaggerated, especially anything concerning magick and the occult in general.
sure anythings possible was watching a demonic possetion on youtube the other night looked pretty real to me.
why not post the url to that video? I'de be intrested in seeing it.
I don't believe in it at all.
Imo people who say they were posessed use "posession" as a rationale for behaviour that is otherwise unacceptable. It's either a form of excuses, attention seeking or mental illness.
even if a demon does possess a person it can only possess them for 20 mins at most because it is impossible for it to stay any longer due to the ammount of energy it uses
This is such a vest subject....below are links to two of my blog entries in relation to being a possible vessel for demonic energies. One is a testimonial by my girlfriend as she has witnessed many of my blackouts and the other about how humans can be used as 'containers' for malevolent entities. You be the judge...I certainly don't believe it's just a mental disorder. So-called psychiatric 'experts' who think possession can be explained with their foolish dogma alone should be on every demon's to-inhabit list.
http://bloodritualmonarch.blogspot.co.nz/2013/01/demonic-blackout-testimony-from-blood_11.html
http://bloodritualmonarch.blogspot.co.nz/2013/03/a-vessel-for-lucifer.html
I believe we can manifest our own demons so yes I believe in Demon possession.