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"$100 placed at 7 percent interest compounded quarterly for 200 years will increase to more than $100,000,000 -- by which time it will be worth nothing." Lazurus Long

I doubt I will see retirement but am interested since the age base here seems so young.

What are your plans for the end of your days?
How do you wish to survive with no likelihood of even low income level.

What plans if any are you implementing?




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i am just living by the seat of my pants. death can come at any moment so why plan for 60 years down the road. i plan for only today!!



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I believe that you should choose a career which you love like Charles Schultz (the Snoopy artist) and die doing it. Unless you just don't like work, in which case get a sh*tty job that pays well and retire at 50-60 yrs



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i take it day by day...



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I also take it day by day but I save up what I can... hopefully I can travel later down the road!



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as for now i do the 9-5 grind....
but someday i'd like to own a cafe...then I can be a lazy bastard and pay others to work for me....thats the idea anyways...
but the thought of growing old alone is my one great fear.....not death or pain....
only lonliness....



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Personally if I do live to an age where I cannot afford to live most likely will commit a felony and go to prison. Free houseing regular meals better health care than medicaid / medicare
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i live for tomorrow i'm putting some money away i hope that it will be enough money when i get older but its enver enough



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well at the rate we are going...give it a few more decades and we are going to kill off the whole damn world anyways.....



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Hmm, plans for the future? I have 401K, IRA, Stocks, Savings Bonds. I currently do not live beyond my means, and am quite "cozy". As for being alone, we are all alone when we die, even in a crowded room. Unless it is from a mass tragedy.

Hopefully, though, when I turn eighty, I can look back on my life that I have shared with someone I love, smile, and know that I lived life to the fullest, and I am complete. And when death does take me, it is with hope that I go out with a smile.



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well i try and save, but it never works so now all im doing is taking each day as it comes and just watching it go by cause i dont really care anymore, i jut watch time pass.

i work i come home and i come on here thats bout it unless i get invited out anywhere.



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im going to go ahead and save but i plan at dropping just dead flat as soon as midnight hits at the age of 30. but if i dont then i will take out loan after loan just to pay for death like stunts!



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Heh..I pay child support for three young kids...savings? retirement? Ha! Forget it..I'll work till I die....oh well...doesn't matter...can't take a dang thing with ya but your soul anyway. Hope they have cappuchino machines wherever I go after I kick it! Haha. oh... and ciggies and Crown too. Hahaha!



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Interesting and thanks for the responses so far all.



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I have a morbid fear of growing old ..I absolutely refuse to do it ...and if that means at some point again in my life...taking a long walk off a short pier then so be it...

*stamps her foot* ...I wefuse to gwow old ...I won't I just won't ..no ..no ...NO!!! *giggles*



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My worst fear is to grow old alone. To be totally alone in general. Therefore Id like to be in good condition and with some loved person...
And maybe travel.



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Owning a cafe isn't as easy as you might think... my family owns two resturants and apartment buildings... it's not all fun and games for us... no one gets to play lazy except my two year old cousin! :P

But it is still tons of fun! Hope you get to own one one day! WoOt WOoT!



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Im a student, I live off beans and pasta. I quite enjoy living a lfie with little financial resource because, at least in england, we embrace it as the student 'way' of the majority and all come together to help oneanother out.

I have not desire to be rich, but comfortable enough to have a few adventures would be nice.



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Well said Echo! Being rich isn't my goal either... I just want to be comfy! :P



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well haven eaten ramen for most of my life, atleast half of the meals in my life and that is no exageration , I am sick of it. If I make it to retirement age I want STEAK Bloody RARE STEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just do not see that as a possiblity with the way things are now. My best friend do to medical reasons had to retire seven years before the legal retirement age. Her entire retirement fund after taxes came to less than I made in a year and she has been saving that for 15 years or longer!



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There's a legal retirement age? Didn't know about that!



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i would want something to fall back on, but that almost impossible now days



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i can't stand being alone young then why can i think that i can stand it when i am old. i hate the idea so it does not fly with me at all.



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Echo
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Theres a recommended retirement age, especially for government pension plans, but Im the UK and only 18 so I dont know much about it.



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well i dont really plan on growing old... hopefully ill be out of here by the time the first wrinkle sets in... either that or plastic surgery becomes really really cheap...

but failing that, i spend most of my time alone and apart from a few rare moments wid someone special its pretty much my favourite state of being... i dont see why it would have to be any different when im old... ur born alone and u die alone anyway...



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12:34:18 Mar 31 2005
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sounds good



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Echo
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I think amethyst ahs a good point about it, btu I think I shall just cross thje bridge when I come to it...



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i have one job working on my degree in law that i can do when i have had enough og turnning wrenches,then 401k the list goes on, its a matter of planning



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Some of you may live in a country that will support you through old age, unfortuantly, australia is moving to super annuation and the phasing out of old aged pension... and if do the math, your superannuation can only support you until you're 70 provided you live on dog food.....

Therefore..... the answer is... building your own wealth while you are young.

So what does Mistress Morey do?

She is in realestate.... several of them.. and building on her portfolio every 24/36 months.

I hold a strong belief.. make yourself independant so you won't be disappointed when the system let's you down.....

Plus my palate is far to good for dog food



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Morey somehow I dont think you need ever worry about it.
Our system is failing in the states cant support my own grandparents and now is almost time for my parents to join them.
Doing the numbers I will be working til I keel over on the job.



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i live life to the fullest



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but you arent born alone
you are born of flesh with constant human contact
it is just as we age that the contact becomes less
as the contact becomes less and the mind is stimulated less and less
the retreating into the past begins
Such fear of being alone I have always known



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i agree with alot of people in here. i live day by day. and hope some day soon i will be with my love. and he comes home safely.



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Well I have to say I live day by day. Sooo who can drive a get away car?.....lol The way things are going to dont ever see me not working. Trying to put money away is getting harder and harder.



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barely have money to survive the now
that money is almost gone
i cannot comprehend what happens so long from now
but thats to the media its still on my mind
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I could die tomorrow so I don't plan that far ahead. I just take it day by day.



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I am with Elvira on this one



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Isn't there a song... "Day by day..." Yes, I sang it sometime in my life! Maybe while at the Catholic school? *shrugs* Doot doot dudu doot doot dudu....



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living day by day is fine until you hit those days where you cant anymore



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It's hard to see people not being with SOMEONE in the world with all these people running around. Maybe people get to be too picky therefore they stay alone because in their minds, if they aren't perfect, they aren't worthy of being with. My grandmother is sort of this way. She is very particular which is good to a point. She's had a couple of bad marriages too and that could be why but i don't think she truly gives up. I don't like seeing her alone but i do know that my kids keep her company and that brings her some joy. But i know, it can't really be enough...



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i know that's off topic but she the thought of her growing old alone and working all the time to pay off her debt is hard to see sometimes. *shrugs* lol I don't think she'll ever retire.



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the* not she sorry bout' that



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I work hard now, save well and live within my means. I will have a decent retirement so I can golf or travel when I want to when I have the time to do so.
I see enough people who have retired with nothing but their no-good kids and social security to keep them going, and by in large, they are misreable. I want to rely on no one but myself.
As I fear being chronically ill, I do everything I can to maintian good health.
As I fear being alone, I plan, should the need arise, when I'm 90 yo, to have a harum of cute white haired octagenerian ladies to spend my final days with. *grin*



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lol that's a nice way to be at the end of our days.



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The thought of growing old scares me enough.. but to be old and die alone?? How depressing!



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LoL sounds like maxxmann needs to shair...lol Well good for you, its to hard to be thinking when you are older were the money is going to come from.



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hmm i dont know i have never really thought about this but i guess that i should start thinking about it.



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I try to plan for the future, just in case I won't know what to do, what problems I'll be facing, & so I can have a way of making money for when I need it. & about the dying alone part, I would be depressed. I like living a loner, but dying a loner would just suck.



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plan
get married
plan
die together
LMAO
too bad none of my plans ever work
Next time that to death do us part is gonna be helped along when parting occurs



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Thera
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I like your simple plan... =)



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why thank you



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I plan to not plan! :)

Today I was in a bus with 10 old people and I was late for work for about 5 minutes because of them! They were all late for the bus! The bus driver waited all of them to get to the bus, he waited all of them to climb up to the bus and they all showed fangs at me because I didn't get up when they finally entered the bus (I was the closest one sitting by the door)!
I felt like dead, with them surround me! They were all ugly, and they were all doing that "ughhh!" and "aghh!" stuff! On the other hand I met an old dude (there is no other word that describes him!) who with his 80 years payed me money to teach him the basics about computers, Windows and Internet. And when I showed him Shareaza P2P he asked me: "Can I download a Playboy's 2005 calendar?" He speaks fluently 5 languages and was learning spansh when I had the honour to meet him! That's the grandpa I want to be! Sitting in the park with my alive friends, rolling a joint before starting an online game of Master Of Orion 2045: The Revenge of Elders! I would like that all my grandchild's friends say:"Hey man, you have a cool grandpa!" If it may happen any other way I'm thinking of suicide!



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I have no fear of growing old.. I simply chose not to do it. If given the choice of not having all my bodily functions intact, not neding help climbing the stairs, not having 100 different pills to keep me alive, not been able to remember where you put the paper etc...... And this is what come with old age, yeah, not to mention getting abuse of kids and been scarred to leave your house.. then , fuck it! I want to die young.... Sunshine, i know a great pier *winks*



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live day by day and harm none and try to do my best (in studying, in work, and in money). future is so unclear especially where i live. today you have it - tomorrow who knows if you have it again.....

to grow alone!!!! hmmmm thats not quite what i've imagined. although i do spend time alone meditate and study ... listen to music and watch telie, write, sruff VR etc etc but hate the fact that i could be alone 100%.



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Thera
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TO Mslefaye:
Because its great idea how to grow old not alone.
I think the bad think aboput the old age is not being old, but being alone.



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Zlee
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Paradoxally, Dhampir, we can think the same thoughts!



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I don't like it..!!!


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ok not to offend anyone, but could it be that most of you don't want to grow old alone not because of the loneliness, but you're afraid of growing old in general? just a theory...



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well i am growing old
every second of every day older
i am alone
tired of this nonsense quite honestly
any millionaires out there wanna get married?
:Laughing:



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I could honestly agree with you all but recently I've been working a lot with "old" ppl and yes the inevitable happens the body breaks down but there is hope with old ppl and they are wise and thoughtful and still very sharp I appreciate the fact that thanx to one kind old gentleman I had a view into the past of what the war was like and it was amazing his views on th political climate today compared to when he was my age................I don't mind growing old I worry about a few things like gettin to the toilet on time lol but at the same time seein my baby grow up and seein her babies and bein a dad again lol a GRANDad that is lol so I will be a biological time capsule for my grankids and i will pass my learning onto them and hopefully guide them to be good ppl like their mum so in short no i don't mind growing old :)



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mslefaye
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02:13:42 Apr 05 2005
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Well since is unlikely I will see my daughter again atleast for some time

Who with kids wants to get married

:laughing:



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King`Tarquin
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05:28:01 Apr 05 2005
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The bad thing about getting married AND NOT being in good terms (i.e. always fighting and one thinking that the other is doing "things" that are NOT good..)

THAT is BAD...

Better off alone with a kid..

Take it from moi!

=)



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jaden
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05:45:10 Apr 05 2005
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i plan to drink myself to death within the next ten to 15 years..hey, i t works, i've been in hell my hole life , each day is constant torcher, each minute like an hour, and i've tried everything i could think to fix it, so i don't wanna live another 50 years of this torment..



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mslefaye
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19:41:36 Apr 05 2005
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jaden: leaving los vegas style huh
*sigh*
yes that is always an option isnt it



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Zlee
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03:00:22 Apr 06 2005
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I'm not afraid of growing old, cause I already grew old if percieved from a perspective of a 5 year old kid. I'm just afraid of becoming boring and closed-minded while growing old!



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darkandenchantedfairy
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04:27:54 Apr 06 2005
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i believe that i may grow alone i have never been able to find some one that see's me for who i am they normal date me for my money or to get to my twin sister and shit we look the same. but yeah you don't wish to hear my life story but yeah i reckon i will grow old alone



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LadyLilian
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04:43:56 Apr 06 2005
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I've got it all planned out.

If my Daniel is called by Azrael before I am, I will simply resign myself into a monastary. My girlfriend thinks the same thing. So, hey, if we are both widows we will secretly have a private relationship as nuns.

I am seriously not afraid of being alone, in my older years. Whether you are alone in youth, middle age, or old age, it is alright. The goal would be one day knowing that I will be with him again.

So long as the Gods see fit.



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Daermon
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05:07:52 Apr 06 2005
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as I said at the rate we are going it won't matter soon.....
there are 24 official ecosystems on this planet....and the scientific community has just put out a report that 15 of them are in serious decline......and i'm not even a hippy beatnik here...just think what they feel bout this
but otherwise....I work all i can....try to save what I can....and hope for the best outcome.....



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King`Tarquin
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07:01:33 Apr 06 2005
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who will?

feed me?
quench me?
bathe me?
read stories to me?

things like that
when I'D be old?

eh?



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mslefaye
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17:36:36 Apr 06 2005
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hopefully the arthritus wont get so bad that you cant plug in
aye



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BleedingFae
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17:45:45 Apr 06 2005
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I don't really see myself gettign old at all. I don't want to die at 90. I'de rather live quickly and be done with it before I'm 45.



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Thera
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17:54:18 Apr 06 2005
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I think it will also have some good sides oldness, Im not afraid, unless I will have the thing to live for...



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Thera
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17:55:17 Apr 06 2005
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And one is to catch some man...or.. =)
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mslefaye
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19:52:07 Apr 06 2005
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Bleeding Fae nice name by the way.
where was i oh yes
I said similar about age 18 then 21 etc
fact is we each and everyone is getting older....
every second

:pouts:
i wanna get married!



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SLEEPEREFFECT
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22:56:14 Apr 06 2005
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I never understood peoples fascination with growing older and getting married..hell i just want to live long enough to figure things out then go quitely in my sleep with or without someone signifigant



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mslefaye
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00:20:06 Apr 07 2005
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too many years with another person
makes you forget how to live life without another person

I have managed even if I have forgotten how....



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Thera
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06:55:28 Apr 07 2005
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Sleepereffect, dont tell me that u r not looking for someone to spend your life with!"
I know u do, everyone does, sooner or later!



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mslefaye
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10:26:20 Apr 07 2005
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Hell I wanna get MARRIED!!!
even if it means going to Boston MA
:laughing:



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King`Tarquin
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14:24:11 Apr 07 2005
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ok! athritis would TOTALLY fook up the day!

aww god! noo!



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deathnitegrl
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15:47:23 Apr 07 2005
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i fear too to be old and alone but i don't think of it much cause i don't think i'll have a long life.



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