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Havanna
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13:14:43 May 15 2005
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do u think u can be a best friend with somebody and that person can change so much that u dont like her-him anymore?or its more probable that he-she has been like now all the long time and u just didnt see it?




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people can change... and people can be deceitful (sp?)

but none of us can tell you what you should do... you have to decide that for yourself

besides... i don't think any of us has enough of the story to even post an opinion.



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People are very changeable, be that due to circumstances around them, people who influence them, or simply their own perspectives onthings aorund them, or what they want to achieve through life.

The problem with people is that no two are exactly the same, and sometimes we can change so that we dont 'fit' anymore, and that bond appears to be broken.

In my experience, this is n acutely hard tihng to go through, but ont he positive side, you find more people who ar elike you in time, and those who are different you can learn off, or visa versa.

We all shed our skin and come out afreash sometimes, but we dont always do it in the way others, or even ourselves, would want.



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13:46:34 May 15 2005
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yeah people can change, but it depends on circumstances, there could be reasons for the change.

its ur choice weather u want to stay friends with the person or not, like gorey said none of us can make decision for u.



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14:06:20 May 15 2005
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I think it is far more common that you'll spend more time with someone, and then find out that you never really liked them (even if you don't realize it).

Additionally, when you spend a lot of time with someone, resentments can build up.



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14:20:12 May 15 2005
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the more like u spend with someone the more u know them and they might act different at school then they do at home so yes it is possible



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08:41:13 May 16 2005
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do people really change our do we just look past some of what they do at first.



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08:47:15 May 16 2005
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Cancer.. you cynic!

And it can have the opposite effect.... You fall in love with them.. of maybe it's kust chicks that do that.

Either way.... the hate stuff comes later :P



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08:49:56 May 16 2005
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humans are in a fairly constant state of flux in that every single thing we experience changes us in minute ways.....
and over time this may mean that friends will lose touch with who you are.....
or they may not like who you are becoming.....



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I believe *true* friendships stand the test of time. Yes, during the time friendships last we can have negative feelings towards our friends for actions and things they may have said. This is pretty normal and you have to take the rough with the smooth as these sort of things usually work both ways, and if the friendship was true in the first place and valued, then things can be worked through together. If it can't then I believe the friendship never existed in the first place. But really friendship isn't all about taking all the good things, but rather about understanding the bad also and why it happens.

True friends are very rare to find, if you fall out with someone who you thought was a true friend, let them go.. If they come back through their own will, then know you have the foundations of a rock in friendship terms.

Leaving with hatred in your mouth is always bitter, but better to be remembered for the good times you once shared.

Good luck :)



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14:57:15 May 16 2005
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the latter is more likely in my opinion



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sooner or later it doesn't matter if you been friends for ten years if you want to stop being their friend go right ahead it isn't like your married to them. You don't have to stay with them just becasue you think you two have a friendship but when it is gone it is gone. sometmes geting a new friend means new doors to new things and changes you might like.



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19:43:12 May 18 2005
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Yes, people change for the worst so much, especially boyfriends and girlfriends. When they get with you, they are perfect. Then after a few months they show their true colors. :I


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19:45:25 May 18 2005
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yes and sometime ir goes both ways ...
u change and he/she changes too..... and then u guys just grow apart...



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LifeIsKillingMe
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21:41:54 May 18 2005
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we are all constantly changing. Sometimes people end up moving in different directions and friendships die for a plethora of reasons. Like states of affection attract... unlike states repel...



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Everyone changes

Logic dictates that.

But true friends grow together and never

part.


I love my Jenny Poo :)



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01:47:50 May 19 2005
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People can and will change. That is a fact of life. It depends on what you are willing to look past as to whether or not you remain friends. And if something happens that you just can't deal with, confront them with it. If you can't get past it, then find new friends.



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lenoresprettycorpse
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02:17:56 May 19 2005
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people change all the time sometimes its just best to leave that friend and move on its ususally for the best. trust me its happened to much to me.



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pandora_23_2000
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Well you see what you wanna see in a person the good and the bad.If they happen to change you will see it as you want unless it is an extreme on either side,which will "open your eyes" so to speak.This is why many people now a days get a divorce because the other has changed*TO HELL WITH IT ALL*



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05:37:13 May 19 2005
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people change and it is not even that they were the only one changing, you may have changed too and now your personalities just do not mesh well any more



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Havanna
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17:33:02 May 19 2005
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u re mostly all right,i know that if i dont like the changed person i should let her or him be and go on and find new friends.sometimes its just too difficult and i still look at the past,what was etc.its probably the wrong way...but i can say that the more friends i am becoming the more i can feel free and forget.



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Changes in personality hardly happen. few people ever goes trough changes. To me its most likely you didn't know that person as well as you thought or something else. but some people few do change due to the ever increasing things we experience as we fade. our outlook onlife may change but the whole personality will never fully change well most of the time.



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17:40:18 May 19 2005
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yeah people cna change and you can lose your friendship ove those changes. its happend to me more than a couple of times, it deffinately sucks losing a friend especially when its over something stupid.



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KalisaThorn
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I believe that both people in a friendship change, but not at the same time...I believe that if one person's persona changes slightly the other will pick up on that and it will change in some slight way to the way they treat the other....and finally the whole deal snowballs...

But it is true about a friendship...If its true friendship with love and care it can stand the test of strain....



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deathnitegrl
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18:53:32 May 19 2005
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it can be both,but still ppl change while growing up it's a part of life.Still there are some things that never change...



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20:59:11 May 19 2005
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i think that it is both they are the same people but we see them clouded then the slightest change and we say them for who they are and we think the have changed...
does that make any sense?



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23:06:19 May 19 2005
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i think everyone changes over time but if the they start to seem mean and stuff then it is mostlike that they where like that



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CorazonMuerto
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04:06:05 May 20 2005
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"if the they start to seem mean and stuff then it is mostlike that they where like that "
I don't believe that true. to rebutle this i will talk of a nathaniel hawthorn story "young goodman brown" who after seeing how two faced his religion is became bitter and spoke not with anyone not even his wife. he went trough a stage called metanioa where the view and state of mind change. we all go trough that to some level and well if someone changed from nice to bitter it might be due to an event or events in thier life that build up to it so one can't say the person was like that in the first place.



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04:35:33 May 20 2005
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People grow and you;ve prob changed in that what they are like is no longer acceptable to you



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everything must change. some events that cause change cannot be avoided and must happen.



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20:02:29 May 24 2005
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oh, if I start to talk about this, I won't be shutting my mouth for quite long time, so better not... :)



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Havanna
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20:05:13 May 24 2005
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just start,i wanna read ur opinion or how u see it.



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InsecureDelusion
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Well, that happened to me not that long ago.. Good friend of mine
And to make a loooong story short.
He bacame 'goth', all that cutting ('oh look at my scars' thing) and that 'depression' ('my heart is black.. blah blah BlAh BLAH BLAH!!')... and MUCH more.
I'm so sick of talking and just thinking about that; so, I'll stop here.
Oh, and it's so cool to be goth :))
How I hate a minds like that!!!
Get a life!
And yeah, he told everyone around that he was always like that, but now he's just showing it.. C mon, I've known him too well for that explaination...
I'm sorry and I'm not for all of that, don't really know..
And I'll be here for him, but now I'm looking with different eyes.. No more..



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deathnitegrl
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ye I hate posers.I like the gothic scene but I find those things stupid.
A group I used to hang out with kicked me out from the group and said a lot of rumors about me.They did this cause they became 'satanists' and called me wannabe,lol hell ye *shakes head*



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i don't know. that's one of those iffey things that really depends on the situation. i know that at one point i felt that i lost someone that i've known for an eternity becaus e if a change that wasn't really much of a change. everything was there, but i didn't see it and when the extremes came to surface, it scared shitless for a little while.



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hehe.. I know what are you talking about.. actualy it's the same guy from InsecureDelusion's post.. we have been friends for hmm like 10 years or so.. and then he started with all that goth crap and everything changed..



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People can change, but thats life. The more you get to know somebody over a long length of time, the more they seem to change.

But then again, maybe it is you yourself who is changing. (not in a bad way or anythin) As you change, you also start seeing things differently. So it is possible that you view this friend from a different perspective (sp?)



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people change. its a fact of life but its always harder to accept when its a friend that's changed. then again, it could be that you have changed.



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Havanna
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i am sure i have changed as well but i think nobody changes from the basics...anyway,when i now opened my eyes i also listen to the people who tell me that she was like this also before...i think people believe to what they wanna believe,they see just what they wanna see...mistake?maybe



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I think people change constantly because of what they've been through. Me for example. I made some bad choices and it screwed up my life. I don't have the same friends anymore because they 'wanted the old me back'. I didn't know how to go back to the 'old me'. -.-



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I know that I have had bad luck with change... All the people I once knew changed and now hate me... I guess I don't need them now that I have this place... but the past still hurts my heart... Sometimes, the truth about change isn't seen until it is to late...
*~Gylanah~*



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Olwen
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I think thats possible, people do change and grow up and become different to one another. Its not a bad thing its just a part of life.



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I agree with Olwen, our lives are in a contast change as we grow. As we grow up we learn new things and make new friends while we keep some of the old ones and loose some fo our old ones too.



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sometimes people grow in different ways and unfortunately different directions. It is possible to outgrow the friend. I grew up and a friend of mine took too long to grow up. The things we had in common were fast diminishing right before our eyes.



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well maybe it is because you wanted a friend really badly and you didn't see it before......orr maybe she is jus changin cause she is gettin' older..



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do u know what's funny..? the girl that i loved for 2 years done that.. she is a diferent person and now i cant recognise her anymore, but i never belived that this could happend to someone expecialy to her, that's tha way life play..



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blacktear
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well everyone changes so you either need to except her er dich her ...i know that sounds mean but there is now piont of beiin friends with her if she doesn't act like yer friend any more.....maybe you need to tell her!!!



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I think that people change, but what changes really is our perception of them. Like Cancer said, the more you get to know someone the more you could realize that you really never knew that person. What you find out may not be what you want or like. I think there could be a change as well though, like experiences and environment that changes we as humans adapt as well.



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My best friend most of the way through high school ended up changing so much that it's hard to have a conversation with him anymore. He started getting into church and ended up getting his masters degree from a seminary school in Dallas. It gets tiring when church is all he talks about.



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Yes I have had friends that change that much. Its unfortune but it does happen.



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i just found out how and why that Big change-somebody was constantly washing the brain of my friend in last time and thats the reason of the change...pity..4 her and maybe for me too



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you know there is situations when really clouse person can make you feel pain.
like she/he could say they never wonted it to happen,but sill they did every thing for you to feel empty.

Then you should just whink bout the reality,that the person is just not really (like not a firend) and live your life.

becouse people like to hurt other people it's life. there are some world sad in letin "homus hominus liupus est" a person to other person is like an animal (wolf) "

So this is all i would like to say.
p.s. sorry for fistakes.
good night



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Life Is Crazy In Many Ways, Its Hard To Tell Who Your Friends Are, But When The Time Comes In The Dying Need, You Stand Upon Them, Looking Down Upon Them Into Their Eyes, And You Remember All The Hateful Backstabbing Things They Have Done To You In The So Called Chain Of Fucking Friendship. You Look Around You Now, With A Grin On Your Face, You Think To Yourself.."WHAT A DISGRACE!!" As Your Eyes Turn White, They Soon Realize That Judgement Time Has Come, And All That Ever Fucking Existed Is Gone, Recreated To Your Own Hellish Nightmare, So Beautiful It Looks In Your Eyes, And So Ugly It Looks In Theirs, Just Because Its Not What They Want To See, Its Wonderful!! HA!....But Its Ok, You Soon Realyze, That Life Has Its Twists And Turns, Friends Become Enemies, Enemies Become Friends, And This World Soon Becomes Your Battleground. Now...Here You Are, Standing Tall Before It All, Your New Kingdom At Your Feet, With Your Hand Pointing To Everyone That Defy's You...This World Corrupted By Hatred And Love, Two Unique Sides, But You Are Then Once Again Blinded By The Mixed Feelings Of Life Itself, As The Life Of Earth Is Absorbed Through Your Fingertips... You Then Stop Now, After Everything You Have Loved Is Gone...And Now All You See Is The Blood ...Covering The Land....The Seas....Its A Beautiful Plague....The Sweet Smell Of Dead Bodies Everywhere You Look, The Air Sweet And Bitter With The Stench Of Burning Corpses, And Now, All That Was Here Before You, Is All Gone....Life Is Gone................. You Soon Begin To Cry .......Not Knowing Why, But A Small Tear Of Blood Slowly Falls Down Your Cheek Running Into Your Mouth...The Sweet Bitter Taste....So Sweet, It Strikes You In The Heart, As You Now Realyze It Cant Be Changed. Your World Then Begins To Shatter Before You, As The Ground You Stand Upon Falls Benieth You, .....Now, Here You Stand, Floating Above It All, And All You Hear Is The Gasping Screams Around You, Reaching Out To You For More,..........Your Eyes All Of A Sudden Open, Waking You Up In A Cold Sweat,.........Now You Sit Up....Every Night, Screaming Out In Anger, Knowing How Life Would End If Your Dreams Came True....A Glorious Kindom Of Flames, All Yours, And Forver Would Be. So Now, You Yearn For That Day, Every Second Of Your Disposable Fucking Life, Only To Realyze Is It Only A Dream, And Nothing More. Now You Cry Alone In The Shadows, Nowhere To Go, ....Your Life Is Gone, ....Your Friends,..... Family, ....Gone Forever, And Now All You Can Do Is Wait Upon The Streets For Death To Catch Up To You....But Why Wait?...Isn't Life A Dream?



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MooniePie
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01:59:11 Jun 09 2005
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I know someone that I knew VERY well. Knew everything about them, or so I thought. I seen more things change and change. Things that come out more to the surface. I think sometimes people hold things back without knowing. When time goes by they let thier guard down. Then the things start to come out. I know I can do the samething. I don't let people get closed to me for this reason and a few others. If people are ment to be friends then they will be friends reguardless. Time shall tell if the changes or letting the guard down will effect a friendship.



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DarkPharaoh
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03:08:36 Jun 09 2005
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yes it happens all the time



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SilentSway
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03:59:51 Jun 09 2005
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I've noticed the same thing about a few of my closest friends as Countess has, things that they had been unconciously hiding. Most of those things just broke my heart to learn about them, and I don't feel as close as I once did. Some of the things they choose to do go against everything I believe in, and I find that I can't trust them as much or feel as connected to them as I once did.



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Drakon
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04:48:37 Jun 09 2005
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I change on an 18 monthly cycle.....figured it out a few years ago.......annoys the living shit outta me. I tried not to before.....couldnt do it.........very annoyin i liked that me better.



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janiebug
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04:52:42 Jun 09 2005
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yea its happend to me soo much that i cant really trust anyone



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Menagerie
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07:16:01 Jun 09 2005
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Yes. people are alwasy changing. Sometimes for the better. Sometimes for the worse.



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fullmoonfever
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22:06:15 Jun 20 2005
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everyone has a mind of their own and do change some for the worst others for the best use descretion when choosing your closest friends



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WhipzAndChainz
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08:12:15 Jun 21 2005
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it could be both..people are constantly changing..but some people could have been like that all along..so both



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Thera
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08:30:57 Jun 21 2005
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Hum very interesting my DEAR friend!
I hope you didnt mean me =)

** Stalo sa zase nieco medzi tebou a Lenkou?
To az tak to zle vyzera? =( **



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Thera
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08:33:10 Jun 21 2005
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Maybe You BOTH have changed a bit and now its not so easy to get on well with her....



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BloodThirst
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08:53:40 Jun 21 2005
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I my opinion.......you have to take the good with the bad



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Thera
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09:01:54 Jun 21 2005
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Yes that is true.
Whats the most important thing is to forget about it. Do not break your heart about it for so long time, cos it ll hurt u more and more...
Dont miss other important and beautiful things in your life!



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karla
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15:55:21 Jun 21 2005
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change is growth with out change we can not grow Nothing stays the same forever maybe your friend has not changed Maybe you have grown and now can see things more openly .you see things now for what they really are not what you wanted to see or though they were.



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Vampireinchains
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16:08:41 Jun 21 2005
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Yes it is always like that.. you start out as friends and then it all goes to waste...


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patty
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16:58:02 Jun 25 2005
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keep your eyes open and watch you're back you're no. 1



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Echo
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18:47:12 Jun 25 2005
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Maybe its the huint for selfish relationships that are our probelm.

You want a perfect friend because that will make you happy, and if you argue you will feel sorry for yourself.

whyd otn we concentrate on experiences of meeting others and seeing different lives unfold, rather than concentratign on trying to find the perfect things we will never find.



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21:08:24 Jun 25 2005
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people are changing every day...



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carkiller88
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22:16:45 Jun 25 2005
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you know.... i had a best friend for like 5 years and we did everything together... and i know alot of people because thats how i am... i like meeting new people... and he decided he wanted to maove away and tolsd me it was my fault because i know all the girls in this town... so jealousy can be a wrecker to...



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Havanna
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15:45:20 Jul 09 2005
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ok,thx to all for ur advices and opinions,i m slowly forgetting about everything cause another problems re coming...
can smbd close this?



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dirtylawngnome101
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04:08:04 Jul 19 2005
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yes it is possible......that actually happened to my best friend....she was gone for a year and she came back for the summer and had become a total slut...and that wasnt herself before......



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ForeverNight
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04:34:07 Jul 19 2005
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most peope act different around different people and different types of people sometimes the person has chnged but more ofter they was always that way consider this if you see someoen act different when they are arond someone then they probally act different when they are not around you and what is seen as accing different over time spent with that person has been apart of them all along weither you accept the part of them you've seen or not is up to you



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Kabal
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05:23:45 Jul 19 2005
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change happens, sometimes we hope for good, but mostly it for bad



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